>I am a conservative Christian man with traditional values who adheres to right-wing politics. Lets see, which online community should I join? Return of Kings? One of Reddits many conservative subreddits? Oh, what's this, something called Four Chan... a Mongolian etch-a-sketch drawing BBS known for ironic pedophila, anti-establishment hacktivism and the propagation of transgendered pornography. Well, that sounds perfect! I shall make this my new home and then pretend I was here first and everyone else is just shitting up MY board!
Nice meme lads.
Ron /pol/ is, and will be, a libertarian board.
only catholics worship the fake hippie image of "jesus", and Catholics are not even Christians. Funny thing is that the guy in pic is most likely an atheist
>ironic
>>72229117
This is a place where people gets red pilled and ideas flow with little resistance. This a great place for getting people to turn to Christ and get them saved.
>>72229117
>All Christians look like this and are neocons
Nice meme lad
>>72229239
>Funny thing is that the guy in pic is most likely an atheist
As is everyone on /pol/ ... role-playing a "Christian" on a Taiwanese papier-mâché bulleting board and being an actual Christian IRL are two different things mate.
>>72229117
I'm a Conservative Atheist.
>>72229117
Whatever, nigger. I voted for Ron Paul in the 2008 RNC primary. I still have my Ron Paul rLOVElution shirt.
It's called growing up. lolbertarians are a joke.
>>72229117
>/pol/ is, and will be, a libertarian board.
This.
>>72229288
>This a great place for getting people to turn to Christ and get them saved.
Yeah right.
You're here to tell people about the Jewish Messiah!
Sounds legit.
>>72229239
>Catholics are not even Christians.
Neither are Americans. After the Catholic church, you guys ruined Christianity.
>>72229307
>All Christians look like this and are neocons
Pic is how Christians look.
>>72229382
>growing up
And now you support Trump?
You went from teenage mentality to infant mentality...
That's regression. You have daddy issues.
>>72229288
>This a great place for getting people to turn to Christ and get them saved
Shitposting is forbidden at /pol/
>>72229117
>implying I wasn't actually here first
I've been here a long, long time.
>>72229377
>i dont believe in the christian God but i want the benefits of it
gay conservative, atheist conservative, anything conservative in this part of the world does not make sense if you dont believe that Jesus Christ is God.
>>72229479
weak b8 m8
Slovenac, sisaj kurac kurvo. Trebalo bi da se ubiješ>>72229512
>>72229703
If I became Christian I would have to change lots of opinions, such as being in favour of mass migration or internationalism.
>>72229117
>libertarian
>not being an Orthodox Monarchist
The elder said: “It is not freedom when we say to people that everything is permitted. That is slavery. To improve one must have difficulties. Let’s take an example. We have a little tree. We take care of it. We place a stake and tie it with a rope. Naturally we don’t tie it with wire because that way we would injure it. With their method they would not constrain the tree; and it doesn’t develop properly otherwise. And look at the child. We limit his freedom from the beginning. When he is first conceived the poor thing is limited in his mother’s womb and remains there nine whole months. Later he is born and immediately they swaddle him in a blanket, they tie him up, as soon as he begins to grow they set a railing, etc. All of this is necessary for him to grow. It appears to take away freedom, but without these protective measures the child will die in the first moment.”
The elder said: “Freedom is good when the person can use it appropriately. Otherwise it is a disaster.”
>>72229239
>fake hippie jesus
Boy I sure do hope you're kidding
>>72229288
>full of hatred and anger
>few people have actually read the bible
>discussion of Christianity is limited to spamming "DEUS VULT" and posting devianart-tier drawings of Crusaders
>pictures of porn often get posted here
>this a great place for getting people to turn to Christ
Sure thing buddy.
>>72229703
>Muslims and Jews can't be conservative because they don't believe that Jesus Christ is God
Sure thing buddy.
>>72229873
>Phyletism is not the same thing as patriotism. Patriotism, loving one’s country, one’s homeland, one’s people, is perfectly good and fine and accepted by the Church. In fact, there are many saints who are quite patriotic and quite lovers of their homeland—even defending their homeland against invaders, against nonbelievers. And so certainly, phyletism is not loving one’s people, one’s country, one’s homeland. There’s nothing wrong with that. So when people express great love for their homeland or their country, one should not misunderstand them and confuse their love for something which it is not, that is phyletism.
Now phyletism is also not a strong, healthy self-identity—that is as a Greek or Russian or Serbian or American. It’s perfectly good and healthy to have a proper self-identity. I am a part of this people, which call themselves Hellenists or Russians or Serbians or what it might be, and I’m very happy to be a part of this group, a part of this nation. And certainly we have an example of the Jewish people, the people of God in the Old Testament. They certainly were not shy about their identity and about expressing their identity as the people of God.
Phyletism is not having reservations about multinational unions, globalization, European Unions, North American Unions, international groups which seemingly subvert local governments. Phyletism is not even the desire to get out of these groups; it is not to be seen as something negative. In fact, the Church has always held a somewhat reserved and even a negative stance toward such developments seeing in them, precursors to the “man of iniquity,” the Antichrist.
So phyletism is not a zeal for one’s autonomy, the country’s autonomy from these multinational, international, organizations. There’s nothing all that virtuous in uniting the nations under one government. That’s not something the Church should see automatically as something good.
>>72230128
Who wrote this?
>>72229814
I don't understand Balkanian / Croatian, sorry. English, please.
>>72230108
>Jesus only went to the temple and never spoke to degenerates
Wew
>people have to fall into cut and dry archetypes
You can be a Christian and a gay pedophile Republican transgendered. Jesus accepts everyone. Sorry if it's too hard for you to believe Christians have been here since day one.
>>72230255
It's a transcript of Fr. Peter Alban Heers, Greek Orthodox priest who has a podcast on Ancient Faith, you can listen to the episode here
http://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/postcards/phyletism
>>72230481
Thanks.
>>72230300
>comparing any poster hear to Jesus
Wew lad
>>72229117
Why would a Christian want to go and discuss Christianity in a hug-box where everyone agrees (for the most part)? That doesn't even make sense.
4chan is a perfect place for Christians to come.
How is this not incredibly obvious?
People have become Christian because of Christians on 4chan; no one has become Christian because of Christians on a Christian forum full of Christians.
>>72229873
thats a lie, God is very nationalistic, he always refer to different people as their nations, not their race. When man kind try to pull the "we all work together as one nation" he scattered them.
God punished Israel when they divert from the faith by bringing foreigners into the land. If any the reason why there is mass immigration is due the fact that Europeans dont believe in the Christian God anymore. If they were, not a single muslim would have set foot in Europe.
>>72230108
muslims and kikes are conservative according to their own laws. Thats why I said conservative in this part of the world means being a CHRISTIAN.
>>72230975
Jesus sends their believers to preach the Gospel to all nations. This is a place where all nations gather. this is a place where a lot of people are more open to new ideas. this is a place where people are seeking the truth, and is Christians responsibility to bring them up to Christ. That said, im not going to downplay the fact that there is a lot of degeneracy here.
>>72231152
>People have become christian because of 4chan
WEEEW lad
>>72232146
i know a couple that had, i certainly took conservatism more serious because of it, and i have been here since 08
>>72231489
Nations=race in biblical tradition.
I don't believe anyone on this board who claims to be religious.
There's just no way they aren't just being ironic shitposters.
>>72232641
thats false
>And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel.
Ez 47:22
>They shall no longer sacrifice their sacrifices to the goat demons with which they play the harlot. This shall be a permanent statute to them throughout their generations."' 8"Then you shall say to them, 'Any man from the house of Israel, or from the aliens who sojourn among them, who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice, 9and does not bring it to the doorway of the tent of meeting to offer it to the LORD, that man also shall be cut off from his people
Lev 17:6-9
Foreigners are allowed to stay as long as they CONVERT. If they reject the God of the bible they are supposed to be kicked out of the Nation.
>>72232716
there are plenty of people that are. The fact that the God of the Bible is the real deal is pretty obvious, it does not matter what lifestyle you follow. Its better for you to accept this truth and live, rather than ignore it and pretend is not there. Anyone, anywhere can come to this realization, even in 4chan.
>>72229239
FPBP
>>72233125
You see, comments like this is exactly the shit I'm talking about.
There's just no fucking way you are being serious, and aren't being a b8 lord.
>>72229239
Jesus was definitely a commie I'm sorry.
>giving out free food and wine
>kicking merchants practicing a free market away from the temple
>urging rich converts to give away all their cash to the needy
And here are some quotes from commie Jesus
>it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God
>"Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.
Jesus never condemned the rich for being rich, he condemned the rich who put their wealth above everything else, those who keep hoarding more and more with dishonest practices, those who focus their lives on amassing vast amounts of personal material treasures which is very anti capitalist.
Capitalism is about creating more and more capital.
When you take into account how an average American today has more wealth and material possessions than almost any Jew 2000 years ago Jesus probabyl wouldn't be too kind to the Americans who relish in their consumerist culture.
I wonder what he'd say about those TV pastors and leaders of mega churches who literally made a profitable career out of Christianity.
>>72229239
Don't you have some snakes to juggle or something?
FEEL THE BERN!!!!
>>72229239
Jesus was a hippie, he never said to defend yourself, he didn't defend himself when Romans came for him, he only told other to buy a sword to fulfill the prophecy and so that Romans thought that they were actually rebels. In Christianity you have to rely on God to kill people.
>conservative
>Christian
Pick one.
As a left-leaning libertarian, this is obviously a conservative board, or, at the very least, a very, very right-leaning libertarian board. The "alt-right" ideology associated with this board is, in essence, nationalism.
Your logic that this site's offensive material and hacker associations would drive away conservatives may make sense in theory, but in practice it obviously isn't true. For one thing, a lot of the "offensive material" is material that comes from a conservative viewpoint, ostracizing feminism and making racist statements. Much of the dialogue against censorship focuses on censorship attempts by the left wing progressive movement to silence hate speech, or, more recently, anything considered "hurtful".
Certainly a 90 year old puritan nun would not approve of the material on this site, but her views do not even remotely represent the views of today's conservative culture.
>>72233478
>For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
2 Th 3:10
You are confusing charity with institutionalized welfare.
>it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God
Because many rich people love their money and their material possessions more than God. And in the end they become enslaved by Money.
>No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Mat 6:24
"mammon" is an old word for money or wealth.
>For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows
1 Ti: 6:10
There is nothing wrong with money, the problem is "the LOVE of money". Which causes man to do evil deeds.
>>72233485
Saints are those that are saved, and saved people are still sinners. The reason why they are called saints is because they are blameless in the eyes of God. Since Jesus Christ, which is God in the flesh, paid for the sins of all mankind, but its up to you to accept He did
>>72231152
>People have become Christian because of Christians on 4chan
Surely noone is that dumb.
>>72229239
>Half of the followers of Christianity aren't Christian
>>72229430
Of course. Because when people think pol, they think libertarians
>>72233793
>For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:12
Because this is a spiritual battle, not a material one. We will win this war by our own deeds and actions. Change comes from the actions regular people do every day. Besides it is biblical to defend yourself military from a foreign invader. It is biblical to fight a defensive war against Islam.
>>72234180
if you think eating some wafer, doing infant baptistm, thinking the popes word is as good as the bible. being a "good person" is what gets you to heaven then you are not a christian.
I am religious because it saved me from depression. I was this close to killing myself because all I saw was darkness and hatred, I had a problem with alcohol and also had homosexual desires a lot and hated myself for it. I was saved by a guy from the church who showed me that Jesus could never abandon me, I'm just a little lamb who's lost and waiting for him to get me back.
>>72229117
We really need a purge of Christfaggots and SJW"s from this site. There are now people who unironically advocate belief in creationism and "institutional racism", disgusting.
>>72229117
PACKAGE THROWN ON WHITE HOUSE LAWN TIME TO GET COMFY >>72233423>>72233423>>72233423>>72233423
>>72229703
Sorry, the most conservative (even reactionary) crowd are neo-pagans. Christianity comes in 1000 flavors and denominations and has no clear politically coherent message outside of the globalist "heal the world" and "be nice" bullshit. It may have united Europe under one banner but not anymore, it's old, dying and useless.
>>72234393
great news man. There is rest knowing that Jesus Christ paid it all and that he is always with us. Even when you are going through struggle in life.
Remember that the Lord was with Joseph even at the darkest moments.
>>72229117
Yes my little pretend country
/pol/ has been for no borders
/pol/ has been fo Obama like foreign policy
/pol/ has always been for degeneracy
/pol/ has always loved Fedoras
/pol/ is one person
>>72234393
>also had homosexual desires a lot and hated myself for it. I was saved by a guy from the church
was he hot?
Do you still find guys attractive? How can you not?
>>72234517
you obviously have no idea what Christianity even means. You let fools that are not even Christian to tell you what it is. "Pagans" are a bunch of freaks that like to dress up like they are in the Lord of the rings. Europe didnt become a world super power by being Pagan.
>>72234524
He was also with Job during his darkest moments
Actually he was specifically creating Job's darkest moments just so he could win a bet with the devil
I forget which parts of scripture are supposed to make God look good
>>72229288
Exactly
>>72234262
It may be biblical to defend yourself with military, but it's not New Testamentical, which is what matters in Christianity.
>>72234670
>Europe didnt become a world super power by being Pagan.
That's true but I don't see christianity as the civilizational glue it used to be. It has overextended its influence and lost its mojo.
>>72234670
>Europe didnt become a world super power by being Pagan.
You're right, it became a superpower by becoming secular
>>72233037
Why do you think the Bible goes to the trouble of talking about long lists of ancestors and calls them "Canaanites, the people of Canaan"? Canaan is both a person and a nation and a race of people. They are the same thing which is why the Bible uses it interchangeable.>>72233037
>>72234643
I couldn't find anyone attractive at that point when I hated life so much. Sure I still find some people attractive but it's different now. It's no longer wanting sex but when I see a person full of life energy I can see they're bathing in God's light, like one guy working at Subway near me. I have decided not to follow hedonist desires and I can do it.
>>72234417
I believe in creationism
and I support racism in all it's forms
where do I fit in, I'm not even baptised...
You gotta save yourself I guess
Christianity is the religion of Jewish cucks, Islam is the true redpill
>>72234968
You should just join a church that allows homosexuality and then settle down with a partner and go to church with him. Any church that forces you into celibacy doesn't give a damn about your happiness and is simply trying to groom you for the next life (which probably doesn't exist anyway)
If you're in Christianity to feel better about yourself and the world then why pick a church that hates your sexual proclivities? Despite what conservatives will say you can easily find a Christian brotherhood that accepts your homosexuality.
>>72233478
>merchants
also giving to charity is a libertarian thing, not being enforced by the state; communism is a deeply anti-christian ideology
>>72235038
>I hate Biological facts
>I support racism in all it's forms
You'll love Tumblr
Name a more oppressed group of people than true christians
Why are most Atheists Jews, and only attack Christianity?
"Celebrated" Atheist author Christopher Higgins.
>Jewish mother
wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens
jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1226
>>72235152
Our church is a state church and it's pretty good towards homosexuality. But I do not want to join them, the reason for this is the naivety with the refugee situation. For example our church is trying to get wahhabi funded "super mosque" here and I don't get good vibes about that. I'm not being forced to celibacy it's my own decision and I couldn't be happier about it.
>>72230108
Who better to preach Christ's message to than to the people who need to hear it the most?
>>72235373
>Why are most Atheists Jews, and only attack Christianity?
That's a blatant lie on both counts
And Christopher's brother, who Christfags love is also a jew.
>>72235373
Hitchens attacked Islam more than any other faith and you would know that if you actually read him or followed his career
He supported the Iraq War solely because it was fighting Islamism
>>72235446
I'm not going to tell you how to live your life but I've never met a celibate non-priest who was truly happy with their position in life. I meet a lot too, I'm active in ex-Mormon circles, and many, many ex-Mormons left the church specifically because they were going to commit suicide if they went to another church function and were the only single adults there.
When a church constantly talks about family values and the importance of a loving family and finding a loving partner then tells their gay parishioners specifically that they must cling to celibacy it clearly shows they don't want you to be happy, but again that's simply my opinion
>>72235728
But sexual abstinence for now doesn't mean it's going to last forever. I'm just rejecting the Western lifestyle of free sex so I refuse to do it outside genuine relationship. And I don't even think about casual sex because my soul is filled with other energy.
>>72234922
Both the new and old testament applied to Christians unless is clear that something in the OT is overwritten in the NT (i.e food laws, ordinances, sacrifices)
Biblical foreign policy is basically have good ties with all nations, no peace time alliances, send missionaries to all nations that allow it. Have an army for defensive purposes only in times of war or struggle.
Biblical Domestic policy is to organize in a loose confederation, that strongly unites among a single leadership in times of war
>>72234945
>being secular
aka being cucked to death. The only reason why america is not as fucked as Europe is because thank God we are not as secular and "progressive" as Europeans
>>72234955
>a race of people
how can it be a race if God is ok with foreigners gaining Israeli citizenship as long as they worship him?
>>72236260
>Both the new and old testament applied to Christians unless is clear that something in the OT is overwritten in the NT (i.e food laws, ordinances, sacrifices)
So where in the NT does it say you can now plant 2 crops in the same plot or wear a shirt of two different fabrics?
>>72236351
Secularism is what made Europe into Europe. The free exchange of ideas, the suppression of the influence of the church and the rise of disbelief are what caused Europe to jump ahead of the rest of the world and America perfected that system.
>>72233478
Both Capitalism and Communism are materialist you dip
Communists are arguably more so since they're militant atheists who want to ban everything spiritual so people only focus on the material world. Jesus was anti-materialist, as well as anti-political, he was a commie by no means.
>>72235038
you have to accept the fact that Jesus Christ is the son of God, that he died for ALL your sins, (past, present, and future), that he paid it all in the cross, and that you dont have to do anything else to be saved. Also, once you believe in this no matter what sins you do you are always saved. Because salvation comes through faith on Jesus, not through deeds.
>>72236551
its an ordinance, it is clearly listed with them. the reason why those ordinances even existed is because God wanted his people to be distinguished among other people. Back in that time and place, the mix of fabrics and crops was rooted in pagan beliefs. there was a religious component to it, and thats why it was not allowed in Israel
/pol/ is just full of edge lord contrarians who don't fit in with the contemporary populist zeitgeist of left wing ideology
>>72236503
Just because you become a part of God's congregation does not mean you are automatically an Israelite. Foreigners were still foreigners in ancient Israel even if they lived and worshipped like an Israelite.
>>72237525
Believe it or not most people at the church are rather leftist
It's actually one reason I can't fit in
>>72234922
Why does our state get its own flag on /pol/?
>>72236737
Why did he have to die for my sins, couldn't he just take them without putting on a show? Did he let himself be slaughtered like a lamb for a sick judaic ritual to restore the cosmic order? It's nice symbolism, but not convincing to convert an adult.
I've been in the ministry for 5 years. Almost all Conservative Christians are libertarians with a Republican Voter ID card.
>>72236260
No, it clearly says in the old testament, that when the new testament will be created the old one will become obsolete.
>>72237741
Well in your country, yeah. Duh
>>72240631
Old LAW, not testament. The book itself still means something. Like the prophecies that predicted what was going to happen in the New Testament
4chan is a quagmire of various beliefs and conflicting opinions. A Christian honestly could not find, nor ask, for a better place to be. Jesus himself would go to such locations, hanging around with society's outcasts, listening and observing and trying to help, when it is welcome. He knew those were the people the most needing of aide.
Wallowing around in some right-wing hugbox is about the last place I can think of that Christians would be in their best element or the most useful to Jesus. Christendom is a bridge and a shining light to gather others closer to Lord Sabaoth, when they are ready. Bring your torch to the darkest depths.
>>72234180
Probably 99% aren't. Cardinal dogmas of denominations are very strict. To be a real Catholic you have to believe bullshit like the assumption of Mary
