Total cost of F-35 program, $1.45 trillion, could provide free college to every student in the U.S. for 20 years
>>72221287
You're confusing 'free' with reallocating funding for one stupid program to another stupid program.
>>72221287
Education isn't a right, faggot. If it were possible I would have all of my taxes allocated to the military.
>>72221287
"Free"
Ok maple nig
>>72221287
>Kickass fighter jet
VS
>More Gender Studies degrees
>>72221287
free marxist indoctrination college
>>72221565
>Education isn't a right
Yah it is , it's amongs basic human rights....
Freedom ain't free.
>>72221758
Citation needed
>>72221287
You won't be bitching if the Russians decide to press the advantage.
>>72221758
human rights are a meme
>>72221454
But now we'll be stuck with not only a stupid plane but a stupid people
btw they want to use that trillion dollar instrument to replace the A10 warthog. Imagine all that money being swung over dung huts at low speed taking AA fire.
>>72221781
Lol
>>72221287
>Paying for a program over like 50 year, which will probably have R&D make it to the private sector
Fuck you, fucking leaf.
>wahhh I have to work for the things I want to achieve
>>72221758
>a non-american understanding the definition of a right
Top kek.
If a "right" requires the labor of another person, it's not a right. That's called conscription.
The only exception is when your typical inalienable rights have been stripped for due process. Eg. The right to an attorney after arrest.
Other than that, when you're a free man, nobody owes you a god damn thing.
>>72221287
>>72221565
>>72221758
A basic human right DOESN'T mean the state is obligated to pay for it. It just means that if you apply to a college and meat their requirements, they are obligated to accept you without discriminating based on gender race or any other shit.
The state is such a good thing and loves you so much so that it gives you BASIC education AND the possibility to get grants that pay for your college if you work for them.
Now fuck off commie.
>>72221758
its below gatorade though
>1trillion dollars
>1,000,000,000,000 billion dollars >1,000,000,000,000,000 million dollars
you could literally give every civilized human being a couple million each of that and you still wouldn't be out of money.
>>72221876
>a stupid people
If you think university is beneficial for everyone, you're sadly mistaken. If they must allocate money for things like this, it should be for grants that send people to trade schools and subsidizing paid internships for skilled trades internships.
>>72221565
>people this retarded actually exists
>>72221287
>$1.45 trillion, could provide free college to every student in the U.S. for 20 years
>20 years
Yeah, no. That covers a whopping 29,000,000 people for 4 years. 20,000,000 people went to college just last year. That doesn't even cover 1 and a half college classes.
>>72222149
nigga 1 trill is just 10^12
>>72221287
god that plane in ugly as fuck.
but i guess it s not what is requiered of a plane.
hope it ll live up to it s promise when he s released in 2050
>>72221758
Just like housing, food, clean water, and good medication? Except of course all those things require labor, knowledge, and resources. And in the end if nobody is around to provide those things anymore then you can scream to the heavens about how your human rights are being violated all you want and only the vultures circling you will care.
Only negative rights exist, you have a right to have things NOT done to you without your consent. Because that will never require the enslavement of someone else. In practice, just like always, your only real rights are what you can defend yourself
>>72221816
>>72221848
http://www.samaritanmag.com/we-have-30-basic-human-rights-do-you-know-them
>Education is a fundamental human right and essential for the exercise of all other human rights. It promotes individual freedom and empowerment and yields important development benefits. Yet millions of children and adults remain deprived of educational opportunities, many as a result of poverty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_education
>>72222441
>god that plane in ugly as fuck.
Says the country using a bloated version of the Gripen.
>>72222593
>samaritanmag
What a reliable source.
You have the right to educate yourself. You don't have to right to force someone to educate you. Stop being stupid. There are so many trolls on pol this morning
>>72222593
>The right to education is a universal entitlement to education. This is recognized in the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights as a human right that includes the right to free, compulsory primary education for all, an obligation to develop secondary education accessible to all, in particular by the progressive introduction of free secondary education, as well as an obligation to develop equitable access to higher education, ideally by the progressive introduction of free higher education
Oh look, we do literally all of these. Compulsory primary and secondary ed and equitable access to higher ed. You're fucking retarded which is no surprise since you're just a Poo in Loo.
>>72222441
Do you think it could take this kind of punishment?
That's the role our eggheads want it to fill, a ground support attack plane. Might as well put all that cash into a warehouse and set the whole thing ablaze
>>72222149
burger education strikes
>>72222753
>Italian
Sure thing Galileo
>>72221990
Education along with Food,Clothing,Housing and Healthcare is written as basic human rights for all Bangladeshi's in our Constitution since our independence.....
>>72221636
You should get up to date on your F35 damage control. It's not a fighter jet anymore, it's a "stealthy bomb-boat".
Even a 2 year old can tell that the slow piece of trash that is the F35 will get it's ass handed to it, if it ever tried to do air superiority.
>>72221287
But without big guns how will US steal other's ressources ?
>>72222827
dont talk to me or my telescope ever again
>>72221287
>make all the degrees worthless by allowing niggers and idiots to get free diplomas
why would you even go to college then?
>>72222909
>steal
>pay for resources at market price
>steal
Says the fucking colonial power
>>72222839
And why the fuck do we care about the constitution of your dogshit country?
>>72221287
F-35s are able to deliver FREEDOM to thousands more. Checkmate.
>>72222839
Then you have alot of slaves. Positive rights are not rights, but obligations of others to serve.
>>72222918
Fucking kek'd
>>72222981
>>72222990
>FREEDOM
Your spelling of "oil control" is kinda weird
>>72222753
>"muh edumacation"
>>72223090
oh, is that what it is Mussolini?
Dont you have some spaghetti to make while not bathing?
>>72221758
Human rights are institutionalized white guilt
>>72222981
was asked a question >>72221990 , and I gave a reply lardass....
THIS IS HOW HUMAN DEVELOPMENT WORKS YOU FUCKING CUNT STAINS.
THE 1.5 TRILLION DOLLARS SPENT ON THE F-35 HAS TAUGHT THE HUMAN RACE MORE ABOUT HOW TO BUILD A JET.
WHATEVER MISTAKES AND ISSUES THIS JET FACES WILL BE FIXED BY THE FOLLOWING JET THAT WILL EVENTUALLY REPLACE IT. THE TRILLION DOLLARS SPENT HERE ISN'T SPECIFICALLY JUST TO BUILD THE F-35, IT'S INVESTING IN THE FUTURE OF MILITARY TECHNOLOGY.
YOU FUCKING COMMUNIST FAGGOTS WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL ABOUT EIGHTEEN YEARS OF AGE.
DO YOU THINK EVERY OTHER FUCKING FIGHTER JET IN EXISTENCE WAS PERFECT? NO YOU FUCKS, THERE WAS LITERALLY PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE JETS FROM WW2 WHEN THEY WERE BEING BUILT, THE FAULTS AND ISSUES, THE SAME SHIT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING HERE, ITS ALL BEEN DONE.
THIS SHIT IS NOT A FUCKING WASTE OF MONEY YOU FUCKING COMMIES.
>>72221990
>If a "right" requires the labor of another person, it's not a right. That's called conscription.
They're called positive rights (requires action of another to be fulfilled). There are many in the UN Declaration of Human Rights. Education, healthcare, housing etc.
Negative rights are things like freedom of speech and religion, which require no action on behalf of another person.
>>72222839
I see all those things are working out really well for your country.
>>72221990
>If a "right" requires the labor of another person, it's not a right. That's called conscription.
Bingo
>>72221287
Does that mean USA is now complete laughing stock of world??
Also you need Donald Trump to win to completely finish you lot off. In the warmongering department that is.
Maybe you lot could spend some money on things other than military and government for a change
>>72222006
nobody's saying free college education is a human right , primary and secondery is....
So the only hope the F35 has is that america will never fight a country with an airforce?
at least our shit can go fast
>>72223271
How does my cum taste?
>>72221876
How many A10s could we have built for that money?
Armyfag here. We love A10s. Best close combat support money can buy.
>>72221287
You want tax payers to pay for colleges which openly teach hatred of white people and promote all other forms of cultural-Marxism?
Fuck off you colosall cuckold! you can pay for that garbage yourself you lazy weak degenerate.
>>72221287
Can you fly college students to bomb sand niggers?
>>72223254
Why does every single one your posts end with "...." Don't they abort autistic children over there?
>>72221287
>Citation required
We also get quite a bit of money for the program from other countries.
>>72223326
Redefining again at the UN? Swell...
>>72221287
>20 years
oi
that implies school costs $300 a year
>>72222149
>Burgers having a go at metrics
1 trillion USD is 123.543 TANK-SIZED PILES OF CASH, sicher is 384 Hummer-sized piles of cash which is 12,856 wallmart Scooters of freedom which at your local obesity clinic can be converted into either 1,000,000 shares = prayers or 666,666 aborted fetuses
>>72221287
>mfw americans rather spend on jets than on education and then wonder why their population is mentally retarded
>>72223464
They only last seconds against any decent anti-aircraft system though.
>>72223664
Danke Dr. Mengele
>>72223464
WITH THIS LOGIC YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST NEVER KEPT ON DEVELOPING AT AND JUST STUCK WITH JETS FROM THE NINETEEN FIFTIES.
FUCK YOU.
THE A10 IS A OLD PIECE OF SHIT THAT WILL GET ABSOLUTELY FUCKING ASS-RAPED IN ANY COMBAT SITUATION AGAINST A FORMIDABLE OPPONENT. THE A10 IS IRRELEVANT FOR FIGHTING ANYTHING BUT SANDNIGGERS ROLLING AROUND IN ARMORED CONVEYS.
THE A10 IS A SLOW PIECE OF SHIT SITTING DUCK AGAINST NORMIE-MILITARY THAT HAS OPERATIONAL SAM AND ANY KIND OF DECENT AMOUNT OF AIR TO AIR ASSETS.
>>72222745
>Do you think it could take this kind of punishment?
It won't need to because a non-western country can't hit it.
>a ground support attack plane
This just means "bomb brown people"
>>72223464
>How many A10s could we have built for that money?
Not enough to justify the cost of restarting production lines.
>>72221287
Personally I think that the F-35 could do with being taken back to the drawing board.
However that said I don't think free education would work for america.
>>72222839
And why should I give a shit about Bangladesh's constitution again?
>>72223751
Current enemies don't have shit for anti air capabilities. Also A10s are flying tanks. They can take beating. We need to dispel.this myth that we will be fighting Russia or.china
>>72221287
>Create thousands of STEM jobs and strengthen national defense
or
>Give free education for jobs that don't exist
take your pick
>>72223908
THE BIG NOSED HAIRY JEW KNOWS WHATS UP.
>>72222918
Surely you mean you're wife's telescope? Bet she loves that length an girth right in her face when you are gone.
>>72221758
So higher education and modern medicine has always been around since the beginning of man?
>>72223908
Shekelstein knows their stuff
>>72222918
That deserves an Internet. Well done.
>Advancing the various technology used in aircraft
vs
>Sending 3 million retards to get their women's study degree
What's worth more?
>>72223805
ARMYFAGS GET OFF MY BOARD REEEEEEE
>>72223450
>So the only hope the F35 has is that america will never fight a country with an airforce?
Has literally never happened since 1945
>>72221287
But without F-35 America wouldn't be ruling the world. Thus it becomes a shithole 3rd world where students don't even wanna stay
>>72222243
Ofcourse that stupid flag would be behind that post. No counter-argument, just a bunch of feelings.
South Africans are so fucking embarrassing. Can you explain why you think you are owed things by people who have nothing to do with you?
>>72223529
/thread
>>72221287
No anon,
1.45 trillion would provide free college for one year worth of students. Assuming they graduate in 4 years.
1.45 trillion / 20,000 = 72,500,000
72.5 million / 4 is 18,125,000
US has 20 million college students.
>>72223733
>mfw Brits rather spend their money on importing sandniggers than on their own and then wonder why their country is brown
>>72224152
Iraq had a sizable, relatively modern airforce in Gulf War First Blood Part 1.
>>72223733
>Europeans rather spend it on education that tells them they are all literally Hitler and wonder why their countries get overrun by illegal immigrants and terrorists
>>72223993
Universal Declaration Of Human Rights wasnt written by Adam....but we live in more enlightened times now...
>>72223805
Don't yell at me or my warthog ever again!
jew here, let me explain
if you gave free education to everyone,no one would want to work shit jobs
>>72221287
Because movies and real life is the same
>glorify killers and rapist
>killers will comeback with their families
>a fucked up person for life, living with hellish nightmares about the faces he have killed
>keep waching movies that glorify the army and try to make you sensible towards soldiers when they are causing more sorrow and hate across the world killing innocent ppl while you sit your ass and say shit about things you dontknow
>>72224414
That's why you just import millions of immigrants to work those jobs. Whait a second...
>>72224414
That's why you just import millions of immigrants to work those jobs. Wait a second...
>>72223828
>It won't need to because a non-western country can't hit it.
Who do you think put those holes in that you untermensch retard
>>72221287
I'd rather up liberal faggots shut up and have the next generation easier access to higher education than have some shitty excuse of fighter.
What the fuck is wrong with you guys, I understand the reallocation of funds but god damn we are fucking ourselves over in the long run for some shit planes that can probably be bought down the line.
>>72224751
Yes continue the trend of handing the next generation everything so they don't have to work. It's our parents fault that this generation is so fucked up. Taking wood shop, metal shop, home economics out of schools so men/women today don't learn how to do anything with their hands.
>>72223336
freaking r-selected societies..
OP, here's a little tip, and I want you to really think about this before your next shitpost.
IF THE USA DIDN'T SPEND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON MILITARY TECHNOLOGY, you'd be speaking Russian and (very cautiously) complaining about Putin, instead of speaking English and mouth-shitting at will..
Fucking Canadians, I'm seriously considering writing them off for good, I've seen no sign of intelligent life from Canada on this board. Whole fucking country of spoiled children.
>>72221876
Why get rid of the A-10? It's a fucking beast and looks/sounds awesome.
F-35 is garbage. Absolutely disgusting waste of time and money. Literally the biggest engineering project failure in modern history. They should be teaching it as a case study to engineering students on how to spot a project that will fail. The tax payers were absolutely robbed and no heads will roll over it. People should go to jail for lying to the public and government about the feasibility and cost of the aircraft.
Meanwhile they want to put cops on trial for shooting armed criminals.
>>72221287
Did that shit sell outside US ?
>>72222745
>That's the role our eggheads want it to fill
No.
The F-35 is a multi-role stealth fighter
the A-10 was purpose built to be a ground attack aircraft.
>>72221287
Except that's not true, retard
>>72221287
donttalktomeormysoneveragain.jpg
>>72222243
>people this retarded actually exists
>people retarded exists
>exists
>>72224967
Nobody said anything about handing them everything and making it so they don't have to work. It's our responsibility as American citizens to do our best to preserve our country. There is nothing wrong with giving kids education instead of getting some shitty fucking planes. In the long run it works out, because you have an educated population who can pump out even better fighters than the F-35.
Get the fuck out of here, Lockheed Martin shills by the dozen in here.
>>72222006
I'm so glad other people understand this. Clearly health care and college are rights. More so than the second amendnent, since felons and the mentally ill have a right to the former.
>>72225035
>Defunding the program for ONE KIND OF PLANE will dismantle the entire US military somehow
Yeah, no. Next argument?
>>72222960
This shit has to stop.
College education makes people more productive workers able to do a broader range of jobs. There is and always will be competition for jobs in terms of grades, degree, school, experience etc.
If you think a degree guarantees you anything you're wrong. It's having skills and knowledge that get you a job in a free market. If you learn a lot in school and it has value in the real world, you'll be able to get a job. If you learn nothing and get a degree you'll probably end up a manager at a fast food restaurant.
Education is not a zero sum game. Competition is good.
>>72221287
$100 billion for the plane
$1.35 trillion to several dozen secret projects.
>>72225694
This actually kind of accurate. The whole, "the helmet is 100 billions dollars" shit doesn't include all of the research and technology in building a helmet, with a display and cameras, so the pilot can see the ground through the floor.
>>72225548
College is nothing anymore. It doesn't prepare you for a god damn thing. I would estimate about 5% of the college population actually does something useful for this country after college. If you're out of college, what do you remember about it? Partying? Anything from the shitty general ed classes that they forced you to take? How's that sociology major working out for you?
>>72223664
>local obesity clinic
Keked
>>72225694
200bil for the plane
the rest goes right up Lockheed Martins asshole
>>72225581
>can't loiter for long periods
>can't fly low efficiently
>can't fly slow enough to identify targets without help of eyes on the ground
>can't lug around a large arsenal of weapons
And yet it wants to fulfill the role of being a ground attack aircraft?
>>72221287
We don't need more smart people.
We don't need more people at all.
These weapons are designed to fix this problem.
>>72221565
>>72221636
How does it feel that Turkey's gonna get 100s of them....?
>>72223464
If you're an army fag you should know that the A10's cannon can't penetrate a decent tank with reactive armor like the T90, good thing sandniggers haven't got em eh?
>>72221454
#fpbp
>>72225246
Google it nigga, there's about 10 stories out now saying they'll want it to replace the a10
You know why they're doing it right? Because they're desperate to find a use for it. They've got egg on their face. It's a shit fighter and now they're pitting it against an old jalopy which it will fail against.. according to experts, not just everyone else.
>>72225878
>I would estimate
Great job literally making up statistics to back your argument. You're projecting anon. Not everyone wastes their college years.
But I agree college is a waste for some folks. I'd say they should go to trade schools, but globalization has made it harder for those kinds of jobs to stay in the US.
We need to get this country doing more engineering and manufacturing again or something.
>>72224152
>MiG alley
>>72222839
Didn't you guys just today jail two educators for six months under accusations of Islamic slander by students? Also fuck Islam.
>>72222320
This
>>72221287
Do the math u retard. There are 20 million people in college in the US. If each semester cost a conservative $4,000 that means that each of those 20 million people will have a cost of $8,000 for a year. Assuming that each student goes to college for 4 years conservatively take 8000 times 20 million and then multiply that x 4. Kill yourself
>>72222848
An f16 with a full combat payload of fuel and weapons becomes a subsonic, 5g capacity aircraft. The f35 remains super sonic 9g capacity with a full payload. Its avionics package also means that 4th generation fighters wont know its there before they are engaged.
>>72225878
If it's that bad then why the fuck are we spending $1 trillion on planes when we could be investing it in this country's future. Should we just say, "oh well only X% percent of our population has the ability to do this due to our current economic capabilities" or actually change that problem by not spending it because of "muh defense". We would win in any one-on-one engagement with any country on the planet even if we didn't invest in this bullshit.
What a fucking waste.
I am extremely Libertarian at heart, but Facist in practice, if you think adding a few extra years onto public schooling is wrong then you clearly haven't seen our current stock of cattle. You fucking idiots. Medical care is also a very logical right. We are at a standard of living where we can have healthcare and schooling as a right. Both can be completely funded by cutting back our military spending. I am an ex Marine, too. You have got to realize how poorly we spend money in the military. Good lord the hilarious things we can over pay for, especially people. They'll throw a guy that charges over $500 an hour overseas to do minor securities. If you think that is reasonable when increasing the quality of your own stock is wrong you are a fucking idiot. All men are both Libertarian and Facist. All real men are this way. We understand we are men and have our own desires and hold them above all else, however we outright respect the notion of wearing boots for the land you wish to represent. If you are not both at the same time you are not a man.
We could do both of those things with military funding alone. Meaning we could STILL cut taxes significantly and now we are simply a paradise where everybody has advanced knowledge to some level, can go to the hospital whenever they want, and the Government doesn't destroy your velocity of money so he economy goes into full swing.
>>72221287
It's funny because the same retards who bring this up are 100% always Bernie supporters, and guess who fucking LOVES the F35?
>>72221758
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>>72226774
>Didn't you guys just today jail two educators for six months
source...?
>Also fuck Islam
what's Islam gotta do with writing our constitution...?...did christianity write USA constitution...?
>>72224464
U.S. soldiers and marines rarely kill innocents.
Air Force constantly does.
boots on ground are far more moral than slippers 30,000 feet above it
>>72221287
It could also build 8529 complete border walls with Mexico
>>72224717
Ooo ooo I know!
was it a non-western country spraying pkc rounds in its general direction?
Also wtf is up with recapcha today?
>>72221287
You fucking idiot. Youre degree would be worthless if everyone had one. Secondary education is an option and not a right for a reason.
Tldr Someone has to dig the ditches
>>72222441
It's better than the alternative.
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>>72226444
>Hurr durr A10s only has main cannon and never carries bombs or missiles.
fucktard
>>72227478
or one wall a mile tall
just imagine
>Canadians
Fuck off
>>72227678
Wtf is that? Looks like its Fucking pregnant
>>72226332
>How does it feel that Turkey's gonna get 100s of them....?
>>72227387
>innocents
There are no innocents on a war, only corpses.
but well, see only one side only.
Never take the redpill my friends. Good for you live in blissfull ignorance your whole life. thats your choice. maybe i am wrong.
>>72227915
>Looks like its Fucking pregnant
It was pregnent but never delivered....
>>72221876
>>72222745
>>72222848
>>72223450
>>72225134
When will this meme end. The f35 was never intended to replace the a10. It's a f-16 replacement. Also any plane that flies within range of aa is done for. Why go low and slow when you can just avoid aa by going high, fast and stealthy. The only reason to even keep the a10 is murricas constant waring in sand countries. It's literally a modern ju-87.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/air-space/2016/03/01/norwegian-f-35-pilot-counters-controversial-dogfighting-report/81170580/
https://theaviationist.com/2016/03/01/heres-what-ive-learned-so-far-dogfighting-in-the-f-35-a-jsf-pilot-first-hand-account/
>Implying everyone deserves a college education
>Implying everyone would appreciate a college education
>Implying this wouldn't dumb down the standard tremendously
When correcting spelling and grammar is considered "racist", education has already lost a lot of integrity. Any diploma earned under a University that genuinely considers such a thing should be considered null and void. But that's another issue entirely.
>>72227915
It's what competed against the X-35 for the JSF contract.
>>72228210
Forgot my pic
>>72222243
First you should get yourself a nice cluster of cancer and then you should fuck off back to plebbit.
>>72228210
It was "intended" to replace the F-16, F/A-18, AV-8B and A-10. Pretty much everyone knew though that it wasn't a proper A-10 replacement, especially after the A-16 testbed and its 30mm gunpod already showed why that wouldn't happen.
>>72221565
This is the most american thing I've ever read.
>>72227257
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/04/27/bangladesh-jails-2-hindu-teachers-for-insulting-islam.html
Who cares if someone insults medieval fantasy. Also fuck dragons.
>>72229415
ah this shitty news didnt make it to local news portals....you get 1 yrs behind bars for 'eve teasing' passer-by wiminz over the south Bangladesh....the law is the law I guess , if two muslims teachers ware insulting hinduism the punishment would have been the same...
