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Realistically, can Trump beat Hillary?
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Realistically, can Trump beat Hillary?
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>no source
>comparing poll numbers of candidates that are not in direct competition

Another paid Hillary shill.
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Under ordinary circumstances, no.

However, Donald has created an extraordinary phenomenon, so FUCKING YES SHE'LL BE VIOLENTLY SCHLONGED!!!


MAGA
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>>72202075
That 18% is the odds of her being abducted by aliens or some shit.
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>>72202169
They're odds of becoming president dumb cuck
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>>72202075

The Trump effect is already on. Dems are getting out to vote more than republitards. Even Hernia got more votes in some states than Mr.Trumpy.
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>>72202075
No

Go get out of the basement and talk to your fellow Americans. 90% of them detest trump. I'm still voting for him though
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>>72202075
0.00% chances
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He will get demolished by Hillary
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>>72202075
Trump will wreck Hildabest like he did Yeb!
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>>72202075
Yep, we're fickle and uninformed as fuck. One or the other could wear the wrong pair of pants one day and 10% of the nation would superstitiously change their vote.

Plus, Trump may learn to debate by then.
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The shills are out in full force today.

>>72202284
Who is Hernia?

>>72202298
This depends on where you live.
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>>72202075
>>72202315
>>72202284
FUCK OFF SHILLS
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>>72202214
>Donald has created an extraordinary phenomenon
delusion at it's finest
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>>72202237

They're odds somebody made up based on nothing relevant, dumb cuck.
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>>72202075
analyst thought a year ago he would never run.
Analyst thought 6 months ago he could never take the nomination. He would never beat Jeb or Cruz.

Now analyst think he won't take the election?
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>>72202075
Given that the Rodham Shadow Machine hired Trump to convince people that there are more despicable people than Hillary and drive them to the polls? No.

Given that the CIA already put their target on Trump and laid cover-story groundwork with the El Chapo tweet? No.

If he gets elected, he'll be dead within a year and the public will cheer.

Trump is destined to be the Anti-Kennedy.
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current betting odds
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>>72202075
can anyone? she p much rigged the whole thing.
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>>72202075
It's done.
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>>72202514
I travel the country for a living and the first consensus I get from most people is tbay they think he's racist, stupid, a big got or any othe5 buzz word used by liberals
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President Hillary Rodham Clinton
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>>72202528
>everyone who isn't support trump is a shill
lmao your days are over
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as i've said before, if he lets loose even a billionth of his banter power she will collapse in a panicked, overextended tired old person heap. she is more low energy than any of his other foes. the question is whether he shows her any mercy.
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>>72202601
Betting odds are based on money bet so far. Just because Hillary very millions of wall Street on herself doesn't mean she has a better chance
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Trump will have all of the powers that be aligned against him. But, I think that might actually help him in this cycle. So maybe.
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>>72202237
No they're the odds that each one could do a sick kickflip

Oh wait you can't tell, because theres no fucking sources or statistics, you fucking inbred down syndrome fuckwit. Kill yourself, you're a disappoint to the world
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>>72202075
Nice Photoshopped image. I'll bitcoin you $100 if you give a source.

Oh wait. You can't.
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>>72202567
> Betting is not based on math
They are based on polling for november
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>>72202843
https://electionbettingodds.com/
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>>72202529
>Delusion
Hillary shill at its finest
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Eh, it was always going to be a hard sell for a Republican to take back the White House, although Trump has the best chance of the ones remaining, he isn't going to hold back any punches on the Clintons whereas Cruz will just be a typical unimaginative, far-right politician who would be killed once attack ads of Cruz speaking with pastors who want to kill gay people start airing. Even Donald wouldn't want to go that far against Ted, but Shillary don't give a fuck, she'll have one of her many surrogates do it for her
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>>72202529
>cuck
How so
Name One time that the media shilled him as much a shillery

In fact they are too busy doing the opposite and LOSEING
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>>72202601
What were his odds to win the nomination at the beginning?
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>>72202854
The math used is to make sure the house makes a profit. It's based on current bets. Not actual probability.
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>>72202854
Polled where?
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>>72202601
Is that based on how much you get if you very $1?

Bet$1 on trump get $5 back if he wins?
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>>72202798
Ah cool so we should all bet on Trump and we could make millions! :D
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>>72202971
plus your bet
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>>72202798
People can bet on any criteria they want but it's polls that they're really banking on.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/pres_general/
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>>72202075
Whos Clinton, I dnt want a woman running the country I live in. When the fuck did this happen?
Who the fuck is Clinton?
Im voting for Trump!
Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump
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Betting on elections is illegal in the US. All of these "oddS" are by non American cucks.

How can you take this bait?
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>>72202075
There is no way Hillary win win. She has a long criminal history and Trump will happily bring it up to the stage.
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>>72202980
shut up you australian dumbshit
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>>72202075
Id fuck the shit out of Hillary tho. Seriously, piss and shit everywhere, and ill stay dipped idgaf
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>>72202075
No.
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>>72202075
Not one chance.
;-)
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Honestly everyones finished. Hillary is clear as day the next POTUS. Not shilling because she has the whole dem establishment in her back pocket and even some republicans to pull off all of the dirty tricks on trump in the general. And what does trump have? Nothing. The GOP establishment hates his guts and they normally help rig elections in the general for favored GOP players. At this point even when the kock brothers side with hillary its pretty much over.
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>>72202075
considering the turnout for primaries based on dems and pubs trump would win. pub voters outnumber dems in almost every state other than true blue states.
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>>72202075
If an election was held now? Obviously not

This election cycle is like nothing before and predictions about the general election before the nominations is stupid.

People said Trumps primary campaign was a joke and would be dead 8 months ago. Then they said he's just continuing to further his business. Then they said he has a ceiling of 30% and as people dropped out he would be pushed to the back. Then they said his ceiling is actually 35%, then it was 40%.

Now he stands as the only candidate left who you can win the nomination and has a very clear path and after tonight that path looks very likely. He stands at 48% nationally and has just won 6 states with support over 50%.
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if Obama can beat Hillary, Trump can

It'll just take Meme Magic and Trump to go 180 in about half of his views
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>>72203365
Trump could pay off Bernie to run third party or endorse Jill Stein, but yes, it's a difficult road ahead.

The thing for Trump is that he'll really be in this summer fight alone, Romney certainly won't bat for him, the Bushes won't bat for him, Senate candidates are already distancing themselves from him

At least he'd be able to say the establishment stabbed him in the back if he loses
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>>72203537
Also preface this by saying Bernie Sanders is probably one of the least charismatic person to ever run, he's on Mike Gravel/Dennis Kucinich level of charisma, yet still gave HIllary a hard time
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>>72202075
Barack Obama hasn't even started campaigning yet and you know he's the heavy for the Democrats. How will Republicans counter a popular extremely charismatic sitting president?
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>>72203466
Amongst republicans and poor turnout today. Not a good sign. Hillary leads in the popular vote over all candidates.
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>>72203665
either you're trolling, or you are incredibly ignorant of your own political system
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Absolutely. Once this moves onto a general election and The Republican Party starts to get behind Trump and really work his campaign, it'll be over for Hillary.

While Trump does have high negatives, Hillary also has high negatives and the fact we are coming off of 8 years of a democrat (although he's got about a 50% approval rating) helps the republicans tremendously.

that being said if Hillary wins it won't be the end of the world. I'm a Trump supporter, but what will happen if Hillary wins is the midterm elections heavily favor the Republicans since it'd be 10 years of a Democratic President. In 2020 The Republicans likely run Paul Ryan or someone very well liked and likely win.
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>>72203665
No elder statesmen I can think of

>>72203916
I think he's talking about party unity, there really isn't anyone for the GOP to rally under, Reince is a joke, Mitt and McCain are RINOs who choked, one of who gave a nationally televised speech over how Trump should never be the nominee, the other who Trump called a fucking loser
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>>72202075
clinton is probably going to win and much butthurt will ensue. more-of-the-same coming your way

the donald has actually always been close friends with the clintons
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glad to see /pol/ isn't as delusional about Trump winning as Berners were for their candidate
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>>72202284
Based on what? Have other Mexicans told you that they are voting for Hillary?
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>>72202075
/pol/ supports ron paul

ron paul loses

/pol/ supports trump

>guess what will happen
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>>72204152

So ultimately the question is whose political revolution wins, Bernie's or Trump's?
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>>72204108

it was all his plans
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>>72202075
No one.
The fix was in a long while ago.
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>>72202075
Probably not. He's not a politician, and she's the best one around today. It's going to be a fucking bloodbath.

Trump needs to learn message discipline in a hurry. He isn't playing little league with Ratto anymore. He threw a big softball to Hillary with that comment, and now it's on tape and ready to be turned into attack ads to drive his approval rate among women down even further.
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>>72203808
You say poor turnout because the turnout wasn't as good as others more Republican states. Trump is obviously never going to win places like New York, Maryland or Connecticut but It bodes well if he does well there.

The fact of the matter is that the turnout was significantly higher than previous Republican primaries

NY 2008 Republican Turnout: 670,078
NY 2012 Republican Turnout: 190,515
NY 2016 Republican Turnout: 874,572

PA 2008 Republican Turnout: 815,364
PA 2012 Republican Turnout: 810,934
PA 2016 Republican Turnout: 1,573,338

CT 2008 Republican Turnout: 151,604
CT 2012 Republican Turnout: 59,578
CT 2016 Republican Turnout: 212,204

MD 2008 Republican Turnout: 320,989
MD 2012 Republican Turnout: 238,987
MD 2016 Republican Turnout: 435,600

RI 2008 Republican Turnout: 26,996
RI 2012 Republican Turnout: 14,564
RI 2016 Republican Turnout: 61,179

DE 2008 Republican Turnout: 50,237
DE 2012 Republican Turnout: 28,592
DE 2016 Republican Turnout: 69,892
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>>72204210
/pol/ probably has enough passion not to quit after an election we'll pick up on the next usefull false hero that serves our cause either until the boomers croak or the celebrity and boomer nostalgia of presidential families from the 90's are put to bed shall we say some time SOON(tm)
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>>72204314
Alright, god damn it. Who is posting this fucking cow all over the place?
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>>72202075

The only reason why hillary's numbers are so high is because thats in the Dems league. She's "popular" there and the majority are red states. So even if she some how manages to get the nomination, she won't win in the end.
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Trump is winning but the overall numbers are not with the GOP, Dems are close to 55% of the overall electorate that is registered.

What can you do?

Simple. Make fake Twitter accounts now and start following major nigger celebs like Beyonce or Jay-Z and major spic celebs as well, thumbs up no matter what inane shit they say.

Then on election eve or morning spam your fake accounts with shit like, "Use your EBT card today at a location over 250 miles from your home address and get double points!"

Think up your own ideas to keep poor stupid minorities from voting on election day.
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>>72204452

What about the whole PC Culture that has arisen lately. To me the rise of Donald Trump is a lot of people sick of PC and Safe Spaces and a lot of these college-aged kids with socialist ideas.
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>>72203603
I'm just being realistic as an independent because the polls say otherwise. Trump has no chance and bernie was her biggest threat. Bernie wouldn't run even if trump offered him VP and a billion dollars.
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>>72202075
If he can manage to take PA and Ohio he can. Too bad all the niggers will vote for hillary
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>not even /pol/ thinks Trump will win
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>>72202075
read this and weep dumb fuck shills:

www.primarymodel.com

>For elections from 1912 to 2012 the PRIMARY MODEL picks the winner, albeit retroactively, every time except in 1960.

>It is 87% to 99% certain that Donald Trump will win the presidential election on November 8, 2016; 87% if running against Hillary Clinton, 99% if against Bernie Sanders.

say it with me: DONALD TRUMP WINS IN A LANDSLIDE.
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>>72204152

>confusing /new/ with /pol/
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>>72202284
Actually it's the opposite, butthurt spic build wall
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>>72202529
>no establishment support
>destroyed a swarm of Republican candidates
>set precedents in primaries
>by far the most politically active populace in support of a presidential candidate since the 80s
>triggers SJWs on a titanic scale

>not an extraordinary phenomenon
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>>72204210
Bernie is nothing special, he's mastered the art of begging for money from college students, but really he's just the average progressive candidate that the Dems fielded like they always do every couple cycles.

He's not an inspiring figure compared to Obama by any means, and was always surviving on the edge of the mercies of Karl Rove and his team and the Clinton attack sqaud. Rove never went after him because the idea of running against an open Socialist who wants to take away everyone's health care plans and replace them with Medicare, raising taxes in extreme amounts, and open association with Communist regimes gets him wet

Clinton never went after him in that way because she wanted his voters in the general and didn't want too much blood on her pantsuits

Trump did something truly amazing though, the exit polls of GOP voters who would support a ban on Muslims went from 60-80 percent. We can all rest easy and know the US will never, ever be cucked by Islam, thanks to the GOP
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>>72204550
>What about the whole PC Culture that has arisen lately.

You think this method of thought, silencing of criticism is recent? This has been happening in one form or another since the beginning of time. In recent time...look at what happened in the past centuries in Asia, what happened in Russia during the Soviet Union, Communism and socialism, etc. There has always been silencing of criticism by those in power. Political correctness is no different than all the previous forms.
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>>72204550
they are caterpillars in a cocoon that will emerge at a later time as one of us or risk a critical failure, it is simply their individual choice to make from within if they actually know themselves or not. its a super-imposed false separation to divide otherwise like minds. this separation will fail in about a year or more from now if things play out like they should. I could be wrong however.
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>>72202075
is it possible that it's been half a year and you STILL haven't seen through the ruse?

FACT: trump and clintons have been friends for DECADES. he funded and supported them.
and now you think he's going to turn against them?

this was a play from the get-go: make sure trump, the LITERALLY UNELECTABLE, runs against hillary.
please understand that even though whites are officially a majority, in reality, arabs + latinos, most of whom are classified as white outnumber the actual whites. and 90% of those will rather vote hillary.

if, by some miracle, trump does win, he will be same as hillary... or he will make sure to fuck up spectacularly, so he would lose the next election and hillary could rule.
and that will be the death of american nationalism.
you stupid niggers played it right into their hands.
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>>72205055

that would literally be such a huge fucking conspiracy. It would literally mean that Donald Trump years ago went to Hillary and said

"Hey, I can get you elected in 2016 and here's how. I'm going to turn Republican and bandwagon onto The Tea Party Movement by claiming Obama isn't a US Citizen and demanding to see a birth certificate! Then from there I'm going to enter the primaries come 2016 and manage to defy literally every person's odds and win the nomination!"

If Donald Trump literally is pulling a ruse that deep and complicated over years, then he is possibly the most intelligent man on the face of the earth to manage to pull off something like that.
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>>72205489
>If Donald Trump literally is pulling a ruse that deep and complicated over years, then he is possibly the most intelligent man on the face of the earth to manage to pull off something like that.
No, their common masters are. If they weren't, they wouldn't be ruling the world.
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>>72204649
>vagina vote + first ____ president ever Round TWO vs. just 'can't stump the trump' meme

/pol/ can't beat vagina voting and the First ____ president EVAR meme. its a war of meme's


we could have possibly lost this battle but not the war.
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>>72202284

This is the Trump effect you fucking tard. Literally the opposite of what you said is true.
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>>72202075

No, the seahag will win. Good for us I guess, still I would've loved to see a new age of anti PC heralded by Lord Trump.
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