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Would banning Birth Control fix the falling white birth rate?
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Would banning Birth Control fix the falling white birth rate?

Let's say the West does fix itself and return to Christianity, Birth rates could greatly jump by making contraception a crime.

Before you bring up STDs, people will not have sex left and right if theres a huge risk, so the problem will sort itself out, and way more will wait until marriage.
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>>72149741

You need to get out more. Its done, women are emancipated. This will end in slow cultural conquest, or violence.
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bringing back young marriage as the norm would need to go alongside it, and this means reforming the school system to accommodate people marrying and settling down as 16-18 year olds like they used to, and learning trades instead of everyone aiming for delayed development via the college babysitting system.

Better yet bring back arranged/planned marriage, you could even use a computerized system for people to find mates
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>>72149741
No, nigger population would explode to the point where we wouldn't be able to contain it and even more men would turn to games and drugs.
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Why do we need more people? Birth control should be mandatory across all racial and national lines
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>>72150010
Older population drags up pension prices and drags down the workforce.
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>>72149980
>>even more men would turn to games and drugs.

this is really the problem.

you wouldn't fix the marriage rate, you'd just have more and more people opting out entirely as long as marriage as an institution is still killed by laws and culture.

Find a way to make marriage as mandatory/expected as getting a job for most people both men and women, and THEN you really undo the sexual revolution.
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I'm talking about what would happen if you banned contraception right now, in today's West. Obviously if it magically turned back to traditional culture as the majority it would be a good thing, but that wouldn't happen without other changes.
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Not going anywhere near that commitment hole until divorce laws are reformed, bye bye! In the meantime the mexicans are are already set to overtake this place maybe even within our lifetime.
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>>72150805
it's not even just divorce laws.

it's the very idea of "dating" which destroys true famlies. Arranged marriage or at least somewhat planned by families keeps them together.
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>>72149741
The declining birth rates of superior people isn't the problem. The problem is the exponential birthrates of the inferiors.

What is needed is a mass extinction of the inferiors.
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>banning anything

Get your authoritative ass out of this libertarian artwork board
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>>72150256
So how would one go about making marriage expected in a society that encourages you to sleep around? Religion used to be the main driving factor.
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>>72149741
I would pay higher taxes for inexpensive childcare to be available to all Irish parents.
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>>72151155
biologically speaking, if you reproduce you are superior and if you dont you are inferior.

High IQs might be an evolutionary dead end.
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>goys we need more growth
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>>72151413
All that growth is in the past or occurring in Africa. There is not much population growth happening in the west. Its stable. Its just a pity that people are aging.
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>>72150157
So how does a higher birth rate help? We'll have a pyramid-shaped demographic again, sure. But the young people of today won't die as they used to and then we'll have an even bigger number of old people in 50 years. The only way you can keep up this snowball system is by adding more and more younger people, which won't work.
The only solution will be to either give pensioners less money and benefits, raise the retirement age or send them into an arena to fight for their pension.
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>>72151413
>what are individual countries
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>>72152081
Have a column shaped demographic and sensible pensions.
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>>72152406
Takes a lot of work. Anything can disrupt the balance.
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>>72151155
When will this meme end?
Nigger birthrate is 2.1, exactly the replacement rate. In fact they might be shrinking because of their abnormally high murder rate.
Hispanics birthrate is 3.0 a quite healthy birthrate.
It's not our fault you white cucks are so emasculated you don't want to have sex.
> White birthrate is 1.37
Just cuck my shit up senpai
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>>72152081
Or maybe you could not give benefits to millions of darkies who want to behead you?
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>>72149741
If you genuinely want to increase "white birth rates", then take away their freedom to grow academically, and their societal privileges.
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>>72149963
Fucking this
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>>72150256
No, you don't
End welfare, divorce courts and draft entirely and then things would change.
Also, look at thé herbivore males in Japan to get whats's actually going on.
>TL;dr: mais mariage and mating worth it again
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>>72149741
Yes, because what the West ABSOLUTELY NEEDS is more stupid children from stupid parents.

>7 billion+ humans
>1 billion+ Whites
>We're running out of people!
I hope this world ends in fire.
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>>72154886
>Literally being a capitalist shill
How many shekels you get per post, faggot?
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>>72149741

Of course. It would also stop women being complete whores, and would slow feminism to a crawl. Birth control is what started the "Sexual revolution" and allowed feminism to take root.

As much as I enjoy fucking without consequences, birth control has destroyed western civilization.
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>>72150010

Half the existing white population are old and aging. Birth rates are below replacement. One of the arguments for immigration is a work force to care for and fund though taxes the aging population.

White people need to start having kids to eliminate that excuse.
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>>72157164
>The rich rig the game so if you don't breed "enough" to satisfy their dragon madness they just import third worlders
>Play their game anyway
Fucking idiots.
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>>72157164

Or we could abandon these pyramid scheme policies
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>>72156694

That is not remotely accurate. White people are about 4% of the world population once you remove south America, Hispanic and mixed whites, Russia and north Africa.

>1/2 of that 4% are old and behind haivng kids
>1.8% of the world population are women of child bearing age or younger.

Its a lot worse than you think.
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>>72157386
This. And kill the rich kike shits who mandate them. The problem isn't "low birth rates". This planet can't fucking support 7 billion fucking people. I'd be amazed if it could support just the Whites alive now for any reasonable amount of time. And no, you're not going to be fucking mining asteroids. You're going to die in a slum right beside your brown slave neighbors, retards because you literally refuse to fight the people causing this shit and keep agreeing with and supporting them.

>>72157520
>That is not remotely accurate.
You are not remotely accurate. All you're doing is parroting the line the rich have given you to repeat like a stupid fucking cuckold faggot.
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>>72157610

>parroting the line the rich have given

wut?
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>>72149741
Anal explosion.
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Whites typically establish their own personal empires before bringing kids into the equation. That means one will usually have partner, house, stable income, and then a kid. Hicks/white trash are honestly the ones keeping the white birth rates going mostly.

Meanwhile the haiji goat fuckers, niggers, etc.. are having kids like cockroaches because the state hands out gibsmedats like candy to these 7+ families. Meanwhile other people have to pick up the tab on these roaches.
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>>72157688
Not surprised you're too stupid to figure this out for yourself.

The rich are the ones feeding the "BREED MORE" rhetoric because more consumption means more money for them. They don't give a flying fuck about social security because they don't even pay their fucking share for it. If Whites bred like third worlders and worked for slave wages, the rich wouldn't bother importing third worlders BECAUSE THE WEST WOULD BE THE FUCKING THIRD WORLD.

Playing the rich cunts' game is a losing proposition 100% of the time, and you retarded millennial edgequeers fell right into the trap so badly you've become street preachers for the faggots who already wrecked society and just keep doing it harder faster.
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>>72149741
>people will not have sex left and right if theres a huge risk
You really are this stupid?
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>>72158222
He believes the way to save the West is to breed more. What do you think?
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ok I give you the real talk i'm an elitist germanic jew (master of all master races. half aryan other half direct descendant of king david).

see, we dont want to eliminate all white people. only the stupid ones because they are out of control. if your IQ is 110 youre fine. Just dont mix with inferior races or with low IQ whites and enjoy the show. Those whtes who are stupid enough to race mix don't deserve any better. You might be an average joe now but as long as you make sure your family dont race mix your gradkids will become part of the elite, as by then anyone who has not mixed with anything brown or darker is considered almost royalty.

The problem is the white man has a very adventurous and playful spirit. It is the reason euros have created so much beautiful art and music and poetry. So smart whites with an adventurous spirit are great. we love them. We would let way more high IQ goyim in our circles if we knew we could fully trust them.

The problem is the white men with a lower IQ will express that adventurous spirit in for of hunger for war. They are bored by peace. They want action. So we only want to get rid of the dumb white people and create and euro jewish high IQ elite who will live like gods. Just dont mix races and enjoy the show.
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>>72149741
we already have enough people. Your plan will destroy the economy and subsequently, the world
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>>72149741
Birth rates naturally fall as incomes rise. Try plotting the current birth rates vs gdp/capita for each country on earth and you will see clearly that birth rates over the long term are linked to income.

The reason is because when you have a higher income, it costs more to have children than people with low incomes. It's simply explained by opportunity cost. Taking time away from work to raise children means sacrificing a higher amount of income. The flip side of that is having children in a poor country means that you are not sacrificing a lot of income to raise children, and those children will grow up soon and will be able to help the family earn more and take care of the mother and father as they get older.

tldr: Having children in a wealth country costs more due to opportunity cost. Not having children is a poor country costs more due to opportunity cost.
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>>72158106

Why so angry.

All I said is your population stats are way off regarding actual white people.

You are right globalists do want a large population for economic reasons. Frankly I dont give a fuck about that, but the population they are going for are non-white and invading Europe. That cannot be ignored.

Calm down burger.
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>>72158657
>Why so angry.
Because stupid people destroyed my planet.

>All I said is your population stats are way off regarding actual white people.
All you did was repeat the same moronic propaganda that destroyed everything. I can't fucking imagine why anyone would possibly have a problem with that. Your country is already third world. Kindly fuck off.
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>>72149741
>people will not have sex left and right if theres a huge risk, so the problem will sort itself out, and way more will wait until marriage.

>cheap birth control readily available
>numerous out-of-wedlock pregnancies

Yeah. Okay. Good try on the Sharia anyway, Muhammed.
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>>72158863

So angry burger, your tranny hormones are making you all bitchy.

What propaganda, that whites are 4% of the population? They tell us there is no white genocide and there is a million whites. You are the one parroting bullshit. There are far less whites than 1 million.

You seem to be on a rager and not reading right. Calm down, have a cheeseburger and bucket of coke and then come back.
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>>72159166

*billion.
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>>72149741
It will increase crime.
Most criminals are single mothers.
You can either have whore women, or criminal bastards.
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>>72149741
The only real solution to falling white birth rates are iron wombs
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>>72149741
First of all banning it doesn't eliminate it, it just pushes supply into the underground/illegal area.

Second of all even if you could ban it, people would likely go abroad to have things like vasectomies or sterilization for women. A decent chunk of the population would probably just become celibate or just turn to or rely on porn, the porn industries would be under pressure to provide new and innovative ways of stimulating peoples need for sexual release, advances in sex bots, VR porn, etc.

Marriage is broken now SPECIFICALLY because the state got involved and gave women the option to walk away from, and punish men at a whim. Further state interference would drive down birthrates further because you can't use violence to correct these social problems, you just cause the opposite.
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>>72158449
now this is interesting
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It'd make it easier for people to have accidents, and accidents grow up to be idiots more often than planned kids, and idiots commit crimes and have more idiot kids.

Personally I'd sit back and keep on enjoying my vasectomy, can't take that away from me lol
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>my girlfriend is incredibly Christian
>refuses birth control
>wants to have 4-6 kids

Well, I'm about to do my part to fix the problem.
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As if going back to the retarded Jewish Zombie God cult of Christianity will accomplish anything. I guess OP doesn't mind having hot poker applied to his nether regions by the Inquisition/Witch-Finder General?
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>>72149741
>Would banning Birth Control fix the falling white birth rate?
No it would just make the nigger and arab population skyrocket even more
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>>72159613

the strength of a nations criminals is just as important as the strength of a nations army.

if a nation destroys its own criminal organization, criminals will first of all run rampant on their own, and second of all, you will be invaded by the criminals of ANOTHER nation.

look at what happened to the USA. we destroyed the italian crime families. who supplanted them? the niggers. the italian officers PREVENTED petty crime. you don't fucking rob a store without permission. you'll be taken care of promptly, without the bullshit of courts. there was oversight.

who replaced them? niggers. look how that worked out. and guess what, the niggers are weak; and the mexican criminals are beating them left and right. our nation has been invaded by mexicans largely because of the dissolution of the italian mafia.

think of a nation as a tree; above ground, you have the trunk and the branches of government. underground, you have the mafia and criminal leadership. both are important for order and prosperity.

furthermore, criminals are a source of human STRENGTH. those who have the will to go against society, to fight the law, represent a well of human power. when things get bad, and when dirty work is to be done, a nation must be able to rely on its criminals.
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>>72158449
Is mixing with jews considered race mixing?
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>>72149963
>learning trades instead of everyone aiming for delayed development via the college babysitting system.

you tradefags have such a chip on your shoulder about people who go to college.
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>>72162847

Of course.

Jews are not white they are Turkic/Semitic/European mixes.
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>>72158284
I think that doing it by banning condoms (along with all other forms of contraception) is the worst way you could try and do it.
Not only will Tyrone give your wife HIV he will impregnate her as well.
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>>72163254
Well thats a bummer because that is literally the only type of woman I want to date. White women are trash.
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>>72162847
stay away from the sephardic and mizrahi. ashkenazi is great.
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>>72149741

I always wonder what the impact on women is that they turn 16 and immediately start taking medication for most of their lives, that must have negative side effects.

I agree, people should be less concerned about pregnancy and more concerned about STD's.

Although, the truth is we shun birth rates in 1st world countries because we try to keep the population under control.
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>>72158449

Shut up faggot. I'm actually a Jew. We don't want ANY goyim in our ranks. Stop telling them the plan.
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>>72164055
I met a cute Karaite jew a few months ago. I asked her out and she denied it, which mad me upset and made me hate jews for a few weeks.

But as I researched jews I realized just how superior (in serious lack of better terms) as a race. They stay together, have huge families, share the same moral values, and are all pro natalism. Too bad they also want to kill of the white race. I kind of wish we could work side by side instead, but the hate towards christians must run deep.
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>>72149963
Fuck off tradefag.
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>>72165045
There are so many typos in that post, I apologize. It's been a long day, and I am not reformatting my posts on this indonesian cartoon board.
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>>72158449
>>72164480
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>>72149741
>Would banning Birth Control fix the falling white birth rate?
Honestly, yes. This would fix a whole ton of problems.

Certainly fixes hypergamy/the cock carousel.
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>>72158449
Ziemlich kreatives bait. /pol/ wird's glauben xDDDDDDDDDD
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>>72149741
We are overpopulated as it is. Why do you want to contribute to that?!
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>>72165045
>>Karaite

those are the real biblical Jews, or what's left of them.

They don't believe in Kaballah and the Talmud, Torah only. And they follow bloodlines by Patriarchy, not matriarchy (which was corruption from Babylon)

http://www.husseinmansour.com/2013/06/breifly-on-zionism-among-egyptian.html
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>sex should only be for procreation.

Fuck that.
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>>72163792

You might think so till you get to know them. Jewish women are even more neurotic and fucked up that white women
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>>72168373
She was super conservative, one of the most truly redpilled millennials I have ever met irl (and ironically enough she is a woman). I consider myself moderate and she probably saw that as a slippery slope towards liberalism, and turned down my offer to date her because of that. I have actually grown more conservative since then after seeing the profound impact a confident loving family can do to a child. She is a brilliant girl. I have never regretted missing out on a girl as much as her. One of my biggest life mistakes.
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>>72149741
Forcing people to marry early and have children is idiotic. Birth control prevents women from having children they are unable to provide for. People have to stay in school longer to get the education required to make a livable salary, which is necessary for raising a child in a good environment. Most successful marriages nowadays involve marrying with stable finances around the late 20s-early 30s.

Besides, where the hell is this puritan lifestyle shit coming from on this board. NONE of you losers have any idea what it's like to raise a child in early adulthood, and there's no way that half this board could handle the responsibility.

Like it's been said, the problem is not declining white birthrates but minority birthrates skyrocketing. Birth control could fix this, as could strictly limiting immigration of unskilled, uneducated workers. Your average college-educated hispanic is not going to have five kids with no financial way to support them, but you can bet your average "undocumented citizen" will.
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>>72169099
Yet they stick to their own race and have shit tons of children? Sure all women are neurotic to a certain degree but at least jews dont make lifetime mistakes like mixing with blacks.
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>>72169381
I live in NYC, and trust me Ashkenazi's do not stick to their own race except the orthodox communities. The secular ones are uber-skanks, and heavily into either lesbian shit or nignogs.
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