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"The Triple Nine Society, which only allows members who have an IQ higher than 99.9% of the general public, released results of a survey answered by their members. The results? Ultra free market libertarian. They were against Government healthcare or business interference in the same way they were against drug war, gun control, and the War in Iraq. They advocated legalizing gay marriage, ALL drugs, an opt-out for Social Security, and to make Affirmative Action illegal. Although still the minority, a much larger than the general public support limiting the Federal Reserve or abolishing it. They also supported using the death penalty more often."

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/libertarian-atheists-have-highest-iq/question-2841491/?link=ibaf&q=&esrc=s

>"Mensans tend to be a refreshingly and disproportionately independent, free-thinking, (lower-case) libertarian-leaning bunch. This group is intended as a relatively nonpartisan forum for the intelligent, reasoned discussion of liberty-related issues, and how to pursue an environment of philosophically honest and consistent, practical limited government (or better!), individual liberty and personal responsibility. "

http://www.us.mensa.org/connect/sigs/sig-crossreference/?xref=POLITICS

>Libertarians favor a pattern that values logic/reasoning over emotion

http://www.yaliberty.org/posts/study-finds-libertarians-more-cerebral-than-liberals-or-conservatives

>mfw libertarians are statistically proven to be more intelligent and rational on average

Checkmate, statists
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At least their views, although not perfect, sound way better than the current shit we have going at the moment.
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>consider yourself better than 99,9% of the people
>be in favor of a dog eat dog system
I'm so surprised Anon.
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>>72126457
Lol this shill. My poo has more logical capability than all of the libertarians combined for forever time.
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>>72127063

Then maybe you shouldn´t leave your "logical capability" on the streets so much and use it to transform your shithole (not literally).
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>>72126457
They're idealists, but at least their ideals are based on logic. You can actually have conversations and debates with them properly, and a large number of them recognise that they are idealists. A lot of them still have sticks in their arses about immigration though, but at least you can actually have a conversation about the issue without needing to invoke Godwin's law after 2 seconds.
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>>72127021
I admit it's difficult to deny my own superiority over weak, collectivist scum
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>>72126457
>Libertarian intellectuals
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Anyone that is a libertarian doesn't understand humans.

Even the super inteligent wouldn't be utilizing their skills in a libertarian society.
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>>72127063
Good argument, I think you're just proving the article right, panjeet.
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>>72126457
>Caring about what a bunch of mensa autists think

Haha, what a bunch of faggots

Truth is that I'm just eternally salty ever since I scored a 129 on an official test in school and was one point shy of getting in
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>>72127458
What does that mean? I'm as libertarian capitalist as they come and I would say I get human just fine my man.
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>>72127582
Well the question is, are you libertarian?
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>>72126457
>Be good at solving puzzles
>Consider yourself an expert on every question
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>>72127483
Libertarians are broken human beings. Whether they are the dumbest or the smartest, they are flawed beyond repair.

Libertarians have no goals beyond themselves. They don't want to work towards anything more than themselves.

>oh the environment? Who cares I'll be dead
>oh space travel? Who cares I'll be dead
>I just want to live on my little peice of sod in my imaginary kingdom

Anyone that's a libertarian has a brain disease and will never be inteligent
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>>72126457
Oh wow, those who went through the trouble of ascertaining their immense IQs don't really give a shit about wider society and are rabidly individualist?

I wonder what their collective contribution to societ- Hmm, can't ask that, that's too hard a question.

How about; What's their collective productive output, minus the input from the rest of society and the shoulders of giants they're stepping on?
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No suprise. Idiots need a nanny state to wipe their ass. Smart people realize the state is a parasite and nothing more.

Stay butthurt statists
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>>72127260
The only reason we come to the conclusions that we do is because they are the most reasonable, as far as state policy and ideology go. What works? X works. So we'll do it.
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>>72127601
I mean, that your system won't work.

you live in an imaginary world. A true libertarian society would collapse and turn into some other form of rule in a matter of days if not hours
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>>72127714
I care about my fellow man more then any limpwrist commie, which is why I want them to have maximum personal autonomy. Also as far as your space travel argument goes, corporations could bring us very far in research and development in that area given the right incentives, like asteroid mining. But the parasites who expect me to finance their laziness, like those on unemployment or want subsidized education, have no respect from me. I won't pay for your parties and and SJW rallies and gender studies degrees.
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>>72127740
Given a libertarian society full of them, I would imagine they are the giants and people would be stepping on their shoulders, as things stand right now as well my tea-sipping friend.
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>>72126457
I opted out of Social Security by being self-employed.
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>>72127714
The environment issue depends on your view of property rights.
Space travel is moving into the private sector.

You're an idiot and the worst kind. The kind that rejects elevating your self out of ignorance.
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>>72128102
You're one of those cuckolds trying to force the meme that somehow libertarianism = anarchy, it's not, so bâck tò rêddit with you.
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>>72127869
Daily reminder libertarianism is not anarchism, and it comes in many forms. There is a military, there is a police force, etc. I personally subscribe to the rothbard-Hoppe theory of borders to control immigration and a powerful police force to keep abusive citizens in check. It corrects itself. Problem solved.
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>>72127869
It took a little over 200 years and a population full of people like yourself that out breed your usefulness
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>>72128229
I hope you replied to me by mistake, I am not in that crowd by any means, this is me >>72128256
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>>72127805
Libertarianism doesn't work

Humans are tribal, it is engrained so deeply into every humans brain it would be near impossible to breed out. Even you are, though you won't admit it.

Libertarianism is anti human in its nature. It's the same as somthing like feminism. Feminists want to be independent and strong but they still crave a strong man. Libertarians are similar in that they delude themselves as to what they really are.

You want money and no laws. That's all you want. What you fail to realize is that in a libertarian society people would inevitably take both those things from you.

Then it would all fall apart, the rich would be killed or driven out. And somthing new would form.

Libertarianism is a failure because it believes humans aren't failures, and is in that way anti human. It is a disgusting ideology second only to Islam.
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>>72128323
Well my apologies friend.
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>>72126457
This does not surprise me.
People with high IQs often have strong opinions on subjects which they have not studied.
Intelligence=/=Knowledge
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>>72128384
>>72128229
Look at my post here, it is not anarchism. There is no roving bands of barbarians steal from the defenseless poor. It is merely a smaller state and unfettered lassaiz fare capitalism without welfare i.e subsidized uselessness.

Humanity survived thousands of years without a state, in small bands on the verge of starvation going to war with clubs and teeth. Historical precedent in mind, libertarianism is still a large step above this, with even more safety and parameters, just a lot more creation and innovation, as well as a wealthier and happier people.
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>>72128716
Whoops, meant here >>72128256
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>>72128384
>I'm tribal
>therefore humans are tribal
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>>72128792
>Yep because I'm the one special snowflake in the whole world that's different from anybody else

Stop projecting yourself on to me.
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>>72128584
It's not just intelligence, it also covers the ability to look at things like state policy through a systemizing/logical lens unlike say an SJW who prefers emotional rhetoric and ethics, without reason or rhyme. This ability is key.
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>>72128384
>libertarianism and anarchy are the same
No lad
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>>72128929
If you believe the rest of the world thinks like you do and there some conspiracy making people move away from tribal separations, you might just be a special snowflake
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>>72126457

Mensa International Mensa logo.svg
Formation 1 October 1946; 69 years ago[1]
Legal status Non-profit company
Purpose High IQ society
Headquarters Slate Barn, Church Lane, Caythorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Location

Worldwide

Membership
over 121,000[2]
Website mensa.org

Mensa members meet that criteria, are far more numerous and I never heard a Mensan sound even vaguely Right wing
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>>72129064
This. There's a reason it's called libertarianism and not anarchism. But I guess to statists, any expansion of liberty is anarchy
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>>72128584
>People with high IQs often have strong opinions on subjects which they have not studied.

This is because we can see inherent logical flaws in plans, plots, and proposals that normies can't.

Remember, people with high IQs dominate the creation of legislation, which is crafted using especially dense language that often contains words that have a specific meaning in law but which normies misunderstand in their lay way.

Science is another field where specialists often seek to bedazzle normies with cyphers.

If you fell for the 'humans are causing global warming and the sea level is rising' meme you're a normie, it's doubtful you're even in the top twentieth percentile.
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>>72126457
Holy shit, I could join.

ALSO THEY HAVE A MAGAZINE CALLED VIDYA KEK
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>>72126457
Since when are niggers the 99.9%?
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Imagine this; you're stuck in the wild with some odd group of randoms.
>Selfish idiots
I'm hungry, give me food
These wolves ate my baby
It's raining
>Fueling an everlasting bitchfest leading to a downward spiral.

>Smart empathetic people
We should forage for food
Wolves look dangerous; we should probably kill them
It's raining; we should build shelter
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>>72126457
>oh golly you mean the super smart people who probably have no remaining cultural ties as they have submitted to academic culture and don't deal with people enough to realize how they actually work
Libertarianism is as bad as communism when it comes to culture retention. Fucking no border fags and muh taxation is theft tards need to shoot themselves.
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>>72129733
The earth undergoes cyclical periods of cooling and heating. I don't think any climate scientist rejects this. They are claiming humans releasing carbon into the atmosphere is speeding that process. We understand fairly well the chemical process that allows carbon to have such an effect. It's not unreasonable to give the claim some credence unless you have a foregone conclusion.
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>>72130002
The second group is the Triple Nine Society.
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>>72126457

>intelligent people generally support policies that benefit intelligent people more

Wow what a surprise.

Is your take away from this that "intelligent people support it, therefore it must be the best way to go"? Do you not realize that every human being is self-interested by default?

These people are operating from the principle that if you're intelligent you deserve a more satisfactory life. That's a perfectly reasonable position to hold, but at least make it clear that is what is behind these beliefs, and provide arguments for why things ought to be that way.
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>>72130165
Wrong m8, that's anarchism. Libertarians have taxes, albeit low, and there are different strains of it. Kinds like Rothbard and Hoppe who actually want borders and some cultural/racial cohesion, that's what I and many others subscribe to in the school of libertarian thought.
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>>72130002
A single person could build a shack in a couple days with just an axe and a knife. Maybe not an amazing shack, but something to keep out the weather at least while you work on a better shack.

When I go into the woods, I always bring an axe, a knife, and a gun along with a few other odds and ends.

I think this has more to do with having been a Boy Scout than being smart though.
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>>72126457
And I suppose they were all Americans.
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>>72130408
This is definitely a massive hyperbole/strawman but let me present it to you this way for simplicity.

You can vote for two candidates. A and B.

A: vot 4 me, and am havin some good ideas1!1

B:A vote for me will lead to trade negotiation and reforming immigration policy.

B is smarter, and his ideas seem more reasonable because he has the intellectual capacity to analyze them effectively. This is sort of the reasoning behind the studies. They're intelligent and more systemizing, and their intent is more logical in that regard.
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>>72130323
the triple nine society is group C:
>I'm hungry, go forage me some food, serf.
>Those wolves look dangerous, you should go kill them, serf.
>It's raining! Build me a shelter, serf!

As expected, these people do not make it far in meritocratic societies, because a more ruthless, more violent human impales them with a pointy stick.
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>>72126457
>intelligence = wisdom

did you virgins never play D&D?
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>>72129372
Mensa is the biggest example that there is absolutely no correlation between IQ and intelligence.
The worst case i've seen so far was a 40-ish yo uneducated landwhale living on welfare, as it was the "smart" thing to do.

Seriously, fuck mensa, I fucking regret spending money to become a member.
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>>72130408
>present arguments for why it should be that way
Pick up an economics textbook. If libertarians only cared about themselves, they probably wouldn't be for socially liberal policies. I tend to doubt they all share the same vices, religion, and sexual orientation that happen to correspond with almost every socially liberal position.
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>>72127740
You brits really are fucking scum. Go spout your public school brainwashing somewhere else. They just described 1950's America, without all the religious bullshit involved. They're spot on.

The only reason you can't see that is because most of you euros never had a functioning free market system.
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>>72130523
>I think this has more to do with having been a Boy Scout than being smart though.
No man.
You have intelligence.
Just not the kind of intelligence these Jews like to measure.

Intelligence is measured against tasks. If by building a shed you solve a complex adaptive task which requires, among the other things, your brain's ability to coordinate muscles and effort... bingo. You are fucking intelligent.

IQ is a notorious scam as the more people access to quality education, the higher their IQ test is. This is also why the so-cqlled IQ people have to revise test items on a regular basis... otherwise it will stop sounding "exclusive".
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>>72126457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1X9vEzB8c
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>>72128384
>I'm a low IQ retard obsessed with atavistic, tribal bread, and circus
>and so should you!
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>>72126457
>Advocate using the death penalty more
>Checkmate statists
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How do I join? My it is 185
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>>72126457
>Can produce much more than others
>against restrictions
I wonder why they support this ideology.
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>>72126457
>caring what high-IQ autistic freaks think
high IQ != wisdom or insight
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>>72130495
I don't give a shit about racial or cultural cohesion. Sounds like a ass kiss to try to persuade natsocs over. If you want your little homogenous village, you can organize that on your own. Government should have no role in that. Cultures are just excuses for shitty behavior and given a few hundred more years, humans in the modern societies will have chiselled out the best parts of contributing cultures leaving one globalized culture.
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>>72130212
>We understand fairly well the chemical process that allows carbon to have such an effect.

Not really, as the simulations are often comically wrong. It's impossible to give any credence to the prognosticators who are so dishonest that they destroy their original data, massage the rest into 'grids' and so on to achieve their goals. Unlike the media and apparently the kangaroo courts that cleared these hucksters, I read the Climategate mails (a substantial portion anyway) and their dishonesty is shocking. The obvious collusion with various governments, the media and 'science' publications, as well as the clearly stated conspiracy to "change the meaning of peer review" make it impossible to believe anything the favored princes and priests in this field say.

Of course there's some impact from various emissions but the main goal of the AGW crowd is to affect political change through chicken little fear mongering.

A hundred twenty years ago we understood that there is a strong link to the solar cycle and climate, but modern climate 'scientists' refuse to seriously study this issue.

There's a standard sea level gauge at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, England, that's been in place for more than four hundred years and the average sea level's varied less than 1cm in that time. Of course if you post pictures of atolls with brown people crying on them you can get a normie to believe that there's a problem, but everybody who knows anything about geology knows every one of those atolls is doomed anyway, and it has nothing to do with the sea level rising.

I have studied this issue and concluded that what climate change there is, will be gradual enough to deal with and natural enough to be literally unstoppable. I will not accept the idea that the solution to 'mitigating' global 'climate change' is to legislate the fuck out of everything.
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>>72130002
Typical collectivist, spread those cheeks so your superiors can make love to you and tell you what to do. A more reasonable instance of this with a libertarian would be

>We should get food
>Libertarian has surplus, others have some
>Sells it off for work/timber
>Large store of food, timber, weapons
>Deals them out to others with trade
>Everyone wins

>Wolves
>I will reward you with goods if you give me timber
>Now you, more goods if you build the spear
>Libertarian now has spear, kills wolf, everyone happy

>I made a shelter with all the surplus timber
>You can live inside for 1 apple a day
>Everyone works hard to get apples
>They all eat good, have shelter

>The cycle continues
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>>72131376
>I don't give a shit about racial or cultural cohesion.
>I reject biology
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>>72128256
Better remind >>72127747 then, since he seems to think the state is nothing more than a parasite. Also, Andrew Ryan was a piece of shit who abandoned Libertarianism once it stopped benefitng him.
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>>72130819

I absolutely agree that intelligence is an important factor to consider when choosing the people who are in charge of things.

But even so, the whole discussion of "what kind of society should we build" has to start from ethical values, with questions regarding human rights for citizens and things like that. These are not discussions you can not win with intelligence as easily as you can win other debates.
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>>72130829
More accurately:

>I have a plan
>set plan in motion
>plan succeeds because its based on reason and offers the more emotional in the group stability
>violent human is shunned by group for not being easy to play with, he gets eaten by the wolves since he wants to play predator
>libertarian society grows in GDP and people are allowed to do what they want and opt into roles; cooperation vs cohersion
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>>72131617
True, but instead of complicating things with convoluted ethical and moral codes and going against the grain to legislate them, libertarians have the most basic ethical code of all that, much like a constitution, every action decends from

>Liberty for all, gays and heroin users and businessmen alike

There will be issues, it's far from perfect, but it works.
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>>72129431
>Everyone either wants complete/near-complete freedom or complete/near-complete control
There's a middle ground.

>>72130002
The only people who want systems in which people don't have to work even if they can are lazy faggots. I don't believe communism works on a scale that even approaches a country big enough worth talking about, but you're setting up an enormous strawman.
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>>72126457
I suppose that is true as I have seen more libertarians in med school than in my undergrad.
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>be good at problem solving
>suddenly have wisdom in everything
>don't take into account the environment they were brought up in, etc etc.
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>>72132060
>systems in which people don't have to work

We rent out 15000 acres of land for corn and soybean production so we don't have to work.

It's great.

Nobody 'has' to work, but I don't think we need to subsidize people who choose not to.

Not working was the goal of almost every important and powerful family in history anon. Our own Founding Fathers were country gentlemen, considered to be the most desired life among the nobility and wealthy common folk alike.
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>>72131881

I agree, I'm not trying to shit on libertarians, socially I'm very libertarian. I agree with everything the OP mentioned except opposing government healthcare and death penalty advocacy.
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>>72126457
>personal responsibility

That's literally the most anti black thing ever. Dindus cant handle being responsoble for themselves or their actions. If they had to be responsible for the stupid shit they do all the time even more of them would be in jail.

Top fuckin kekkle
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>>72131881
That is the root premise the ethical system is drawn from. Libertarian societies still have laws and police forces, so clearly there is more to the moral system. What Finland is saying is that when building a society, we need to decide what our root principle is that we derive our morals from.
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>>72126457
>against the drug war
>legalize gay marriage
>legalize all drugs
No.

Other than that, pretty damn good
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>>72132535
Oh, and Libertarian is a no too
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>>72126457
If you can verify that you're in the top .001% of IQ scores, advocating for a any form of governance is essentially advocating for handing some autonomy over to lesser minds with no tangible advantage in doing as much.


Of course they're all outwardly libertarians when in strict company but you turn them loose among the rabble and they're hopefully a little more Machiavellian than that. Morons suck at liberty and the world is teeming with them.
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>>72126457
>be me
>belong to 99.9%
>right wing

It depends on the person and their expectations. I bet you that 90% of this smart douches want the entire world to be like them, or believe that that's the way it should be.
Some people are so "applied and capable" in their fields that they lack comprehension of real life situations and the human mind in general.
Mensa is just a circlejerk, a safe space for intelectual-ists sort of speak. And just like SJW they claim to want liberties and freedom only because of their own shortcomings and inability to engage in real life. This people think the world owns them everything, don't get confused with the smart talk. I know this because I was like this when I was younger, but what good does it make to have an IQ over 145 when your family is struggling to get by and most importantly when you are completely useless to society.
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>>72131478
You're talking about innacuracy of large simulation models with multiple complex variables. I think even the climate scientists are not satisfied with the accuracy. I'm talking about the simple relationship between the carbon atom and its various combinations in the atmosphere and how it interacts with the radiation from the sun.

There's a share of dishonest politically motivated individuals on both sides but the side in charge of producing counter arguments and science is predominantly corrupt while the other at worst is predominantly filled with inadequate understanding.

AGW isn't even the only reason to push for alternative firms of fuel. There are geopolitical implications of reliance on one fuel source. There is pollution concerns for air quality and habitat conservation. We are in the midst of the 6th great extinction event and it isn't due all in part to the same things contributing to AGW but if we can kill two birds with one stone and curb either, why should we not? This doesn't neccesitate laws and restrictions if the free market can produce its own solutions.
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>>72130829
Well, someone should keep these retards busy before any riots break out. High-iq /low-physique is a myth tho, most smart people have the privilige of good diets instead of koolaid and chicken.

>>72131504
Well, that's what was implied, everyone adapts to a role, everyone benefits. Laws of supply and demand, of capabilities and roles, will keep everyone relatively level.
But what if half the group has sub-saharan IQ and keeps bitching? Even worse, what if the sub-saharan's keep nagging for free stuff or try to mug you? These people cannot legitimate be expected to keep up, yet the system is rigged against them.
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>>72131508
Culture isn't biology. Race is and its effects are insignificant in my estimation. The real concern for me is culture and how it is used to excuse bad behavior and reading practices which perpetuate them.
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>>72129053
>>72129733
>fell for the obvious bait
Stay smart, Mr high IQ.
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>>72132327
You know what I mean. Most people don't want a society where people can just decide they don't feel like working and sign up for a welfare check. Communism is based around the people who do the work running shit, which is why it fails when implemented on too large a scale, since at a certain point a beurocratic administration is necessary, defeating the purpose and leaving you worse off than when you started. The most people who support systems like that are just naive and don't realie how many people will abuse it, they don't actually intend to abuse it themselves.
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>>72126457
no fucking shit they're libertarians
that's in the best interests of a person who is smarter (and probably much better off from birth) than everybody else.
>there are people that actually take this seriously
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>>72127409

>5,4
>Maximun autism
>Look shit
>get bullied
>eternally unhappy because muh ultimate IQ

Nah that life seems pretty bad
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>>72132535
>drug war
How can you not tell when you've been had? How about sensible laws that don't infringe on people or strain the legal system?

Fucking cucks on this board, it's like you can't read or into logic.

I'm done
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>>72132060
>there's a middle ground
Its called libertarianism
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>>72132722
Then exile them or use them for physical labor. The smart man makes the spear, the simple one (i.e sub saharan) provides the raw materials. It's a little more complicated in a larger society, but the principle is the same and it would be even easier in a tribe like the example given. Provide them with an opportunity to work for goods, if they don't accept, punish/exile them, if they continue to nag, antagonize, and be useless, kill them off I suppose to neutralize the issue entirely or let them starve and come back when they realize being lazy is not worth starving to death, that would be the more libertarian route.
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>>72132819
It isn't used to excuse it per say, it's more like other people's cultures have been made unassailable because "muh eurocentrism". The fact is some cultures are shit and either need to be changed or need to be erased.
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>>72133002
Wot r u gabbin on about, cheeky fukin cunt??
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This only would work if everybody would have atleast a minimum of intelligence they do not take the masses of morons in to account.
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>>72133212
Its erased by letting cultures duke it out in the free market of ideals. Where free speech flourishes, this happens naturally.
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>>72126457
I'm eligible to join that based on my SAT. Is it worth doing or is it just sperg
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>>72133150
Well, that's the root problem i have with libertarianism. It's a political system that only works between smart mature and empathetic people. Humans are generally deranged and dangerous.
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>>72133102
No it isn't, libertarianism is the near-complete freedom side. I can be for more government involvement without thinking that the government should control everything we do.
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>>72133458
I completely agree.

>>72133742
There's plenty of decent people, the problem is that if there is little oversight, a few bad people can cause enormous amounts of damage.
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>>72132664
>You're talking about innacuracy of large simulation models with multiple complex variables. I think even the climate scientists are not satisfied with the accuracy. I'm talking about the simple relationship between the carbon atom and its various combinations in the atmosphere and how it interacts with the radiation from the sun.

You give them too much credit, as a whole the field is filled with hucksters and literal Earth First! members. It's an agenda-driven 'science' and their solutions must all be resisted here at home.

I am more concerned with other pollutants that have much more drastic effects on our biology than the (mostly) natural climactic variations that will happen over time.

>There's a share of dishonest politically motivated individuals on both sides but the side in charge of producing counter arguments and science is predominantly corrupt while the other at worst is predominantly filled with inadequate understanding.

You have to ask, qui bono?

>AGW isn't even the only reason to push for alternative firms of fuel. There are geopolitical implications of reliance on one fuel source.

There are many fuel sources in current use anon. Oil's popular because it's cheap. It would be much cheaper under a proper free market system, more than half the price is now taxes. It can be burned very cleanly these days too.


>There is pollution concerns for air quality and habitat conservation.

This is true with any fuel or energy source. Greenpeace and other activist groups are actively fighting hydroelectric, wind, and solar projects wherever they can too and for completely ginned-up reasons. They're fucking retarded.

>if we can kill two birds with one stone and curb either, why should we not? This doesn't neccesitate laws and restrictions if the free market can produce its own solutions.

Of course it does, the point of the AGW theory is to produce legislation and take freedom away.
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>>72132927
It's funny because you're exposed, so you resort to this.
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>>72133742
And those humans will become unmarketable deadweight, natural selection will be able to weed them out. The supply of humans will realign with demand as is most efficient and preferable to a society with high quality of life. Smart people will be able breed and support their children who will have a higher chance of themselves being successful. This is nature's eugenics and a solution to the overpopulation, crime, water, and energy crisis
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>>72133750
I'm joking. Lighten up. I totally disagree with your views on government but your entitled to them
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>>72132934
>The most people who support systems like that are just naive and don't realie how many people will abuse it, they don't actually intend to abuse it themselves.

My suspicion is just the opposite, Communists are mentally ill psychopaths or useful idiots, and the psychos predominate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
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>>72132722
>But what if half the group has sub-saharan IQ and keeps bitching?
And thats where religion comes in maybe? Moses sees he can't rule over bunch of dumb serfs and comes to them with God's commandments?
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>>72134089
We'd be more efficient and clean with nuclear and hopefully nuclear fusion soon. Then hopefully there should be no argument.
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>>72127021
Lol the only people who are afraid of non-collectivism are uneducated and useless people who are aware of how pointless they are
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>>72134719
Thats true, but keep in mind that thats a vast majority of people.
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>>72127747
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>>72134676
>clean with nuclear
It's a massively subsidized business designed to create weaponry, let's call it that and move directly to:

>nuclear fusion

ASAP.

But there will always be Africas and Indias which will run on coal. They'll break open the nuclear fusion reactors we install in their villages to take the magic water out and drink it to gain special powers.

Some ills will never be cured.
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>it's an "intelligent people are exempt from stupid thoughts" thread
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>>72126457

>"I'm Just More Superiorer Than You: The Topic"
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>>72126457
>99% of the highest IQs advocate some theory, ideology, religion, type of underwear
>this means what they advocate is objectively the best thing because they advocate it
How is this any different from the endless articles saying libtards tend to have the highest level of academic achievement, therefore, "checkmate conservatards"? Obviously, the only reasonable conclusion to be drawn from such a survey is what kind of politics tend to be popular amongst a specific group; most highly intelligent/educated people believed in the "humors" theory of illness at one point, and the notion that "rotting meat produces flies". I'm sure anyone in the 999 society would laugh at you for your fallacious thinking, then explain why a survey does not make an argument for the validity of a belief. Other things make the things they tend to favor valid, not the consensus of people in a vanity society for measures of "g". There are a lot of flaws in the Libertarian worldview, not the least of which being the troubling fact that states always emerge because the overwhelming majority of the population is too mentally deficient to be independent and accountable. Even very intelligent people tend to be flawed in their idealism, it doesn't take a survey to realize that.

But whatever clickbait makes you feel smart and elite, I guess.
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>>72131017
>No man.
>You have intelligence.
>Just not the kind of intelligence these Jews like to measure.
Actually the Jews measured me and I was good on their meter too.

>Intelligence is measured against tasks. If by building a shed you solve a complex adaptive task which requires, among the other things, your brain's ability to coordinate muscles and effort... bingo. You are fucking intelligent.

Yes, I agree, and human tasks these days are often dull and ultimately repetitive - for most people these days being 'good at your job' means you can repeat the same basic tasks over and over again. By seeking out new tasks, learning things (not necessarily even to the point of mastery but at least to competence) and so forth, I think it's possible to actually become smarter. Reading helps too, and most of the people out there prefer to watch TV or Netflix sadly.

>IQ is a notorious scam as the more people access to quality education, the higher their IQ test is. This is also why the so-cqlled IQ people have to revise test items on a regular basis... otherwise it will stop sounding "exclusive".

Obviously. People who learn become 'smart' and people who don't stay dumb, it's probably the most obvious thing in the world if you stop to think about it for a minute.

I believe that it's probable that educated people in the past were greatly more intelligent than they are today because of the gradual dumbing down of the quality of education as a whole, a comprehensive education custom fitted to the bottom half of the bell curve is where we are today.
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Just because intelligent people hold a opinion does not mean that that opinion is by definition correct.

That said I do think they're for the most part correct.
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>>72126457
They know they are better and take the competition and responsibility
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>>72126457

checkmate? sure, perhaps they are right, but LMFAO if you think we can have some lolbergtarian paradise without first using the state to get rid of the undesirables first.
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>>72136801
>lolbergtarian
What does he mean by this?

Oh yeah, that he lacks an actual argument.
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>>72126457
>mensa
>intelligence
kek
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>>72136556
>Just because intelligent people hold a opinion does not mean that that opinion is by definition correct.

But it is highly correlated, since stupid people are forming opinions based upon non-rational principles or unfiltered bad information.
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>>72129733
>This is because we can see inherent logical flaws in plans, plots, and proposals that normies can't.

the plans and plots have to work for the normies
to see a "logical flaw" without the reason why that plan may yield the best results is autistic
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>>72139061

Absolutely true, but the question "what does person X deserve" is an ethical question, something steeped in philosophical axioms. It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, there is still no consensus on what living beings on this planet deserve in terms of distributing resources. It depends on your starting point.
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>>72126457
I'm sure their intelligence will help them out when a fashy boot kicks their door down. Collectivism will always defeat individualism.
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>>72127260
Did you read it? Immigration is ok as long as you don't have a welfare-state. I'd be 100% ok with accepting refugees if they just went "ogbaalllllaaaaah dirk derk derka jerk jihad", then starved to death. Which they would if we didn't mouth feed them norwegian tax-money.
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