Western countries should impose additional sanctions against entire sectors of the Russian economy, and not just deal with the extension of the current restrictions. This was stated by senior researcher of the analytical center "Atlantic Council" Ian Brzezinski.
"The West should get to strengthening these actions from targeted sanctions, directed against certain Russian citizens and organizations to the more extensive and comprehensive sanctions against Russian financial and energy sectors instead of discussing the relevance of extension of sanctions against Russia," said Brzezinski during the hearing at the US Senate.
According to the expert, one of the most vulnerable areas is the Russian oil refining industry.
"While Russia is a major oil producer, its oil refineries are outdated and depend on the West and the US," said Brzezinski.
http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/031516_Brzezinski_Testimony.pdf
You won't believe but this American guy except being anti-Russian is also obviously pro-Polish!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkWALvBTC74
I forgot, why am I supposed to hate the Russians more than the Americans again?
>>72038801
>I forgot, why am I supposed to hate the Russians more than the Americans again?
Dey invaded Binland :DDDD
>>72038801
Russia is a destroyer, America is a builder
>>72038978
Jews*
>>72038978
I take one look at the Middle-East and I'm disagreeing with that.
Why are we supposed to hate Russia again?
>>72039090
Russia wasn't very constructive in the Middle East in last century desu. Afghanistan and Syria were literally butchered and bombed to ash by it
>>72038371
You really think Russia wouldnt retaliate? They could just trample Europe and pillage/rape everything and when USA joins in the nukes would fly and take us all with them to hell. That's the vengeful and spiteful village mentality all slavs have.
Also underaged edgy teens shouldnt be using this imageboard. Please leave.
fucking hell
stop with this shit, there are russian guns I want, but importation are banned with these fucking sanctions, I was hoing they wouldnt renew them this summer
I am so tired of you eastern european butthurt cucks. Look, man, I am sorry your little shitty weak countrie(s) were conquered in the name of communism like 100 years ago, but get the fuck over it. If you think that our world would be blissfully Utopian if American/western opposition were to just cease then you are out fo your fucking mind. But then again you cucks are really used to being enslaved and taken advantage of so I can completely understand why it is that you want to be ruled by globalist jews
>>72039313
>Also underaged edgy teens shouldnt be using this imageboard. Please leave.
sounds like a good way to start world war 3
>>72039221
Nothing different from what the US has done. The US also instigated Ukraine's revolution, Libya and Syria, caused a coup in Iran. Invaded Iraq under false pretense. The US has done more bad for the Middle-East than Russia ever could have.
>>72039432
>sounds like a good way to start world war 3
Nope. The best way to start WW3 is to appease Russia and pumping it with petrodollars that it spends on military and agents of influence abroad
>>72039450
>The US also instigated Ukraine's revolution, Libya and Syria, caused a coup in Iran
>>72038371
You think there's gonna be peace if one-eighth of the world economy collapses? You must be smoking something real good to come to this conclussion...
Jesus fuck, can we stop blaming russia for every goddamn little thing.
A couple of christmas ago russia donated a massive christmas tree to Paris or someplace, and the fucking cuck media claimed Putin was trying to aggravate the muslims by doing it.
Russia is literally a boogie man to these people.
>>72039577
What? In what way is that a conspiracy theory?Ukraine has an American president and Israeli PM at this very moment.
Let's sanction everyone but our explore space buddies.
>>72039577
Except none of those are conspiracy theories you retarded Atlanticist skurwiel.
>>72038371
>If we ruin a country's economy, it will become peaceful
>>72039108
They stand in opposition to the new, globalist world order under "guidance" of the IMF.
>>72039577
The US has publicly used 5 billion dollars to advocate Ukraine's EU ambitions and during the Euromaidan protests there were mysterious gunmen firing both and the police and protesters. Same kind of gunmen appeared in Syria.
Both Ukraine and Syria are Russian allies and the latter is also in the path of a planned US-Turkey supported gasline that would cause massive competition for the Russian-Europe gas market. Hell, this isn't even the first time the US has tried a coup in Syria. The attempts are publicly up on Wikipedia.
The Cold War never ended.
>>72038371
Never back your enemy into a corner with no way of escape.
>>72039656
>one-eighth of the world economy collapses?
Russian GDP is only 2x bigger than GDP of Poland. I don't understand what you are talking about. Also notice that they have 4x bigger population than Poland and huge natural resources. They are economical subhumans
>>72039221
>Poland
>2016
>still believing that the JewSA is your "friend"
Visegrad Group Stronk
>>72039889
Peace was never an option. This is about economic war. Through sanctions come internal instability, and hopefully collapse. The current Russian government must fall or be tremendously weakened for the current world order to be maintained and expanded.
>>72039895
>The US has publicly used 5 billion dollars to advocate Ukraine's EU ambitions
I think that you read too much Russian propaganda
>>72040178
I think you've had too much NATO propaganda.
>Since Ukraine’s independence in 1991, the United States has supported Ukrainians as they build democratic skills and institutions, as they promote civic participation and good governance, all of which are preconditions for Ukraine to achieve its European aspirations. We’ve invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic Ukraine.
http://www.state.gov/p/eur/rls/rm/2013/dec/218804.htm
>>72040168
>The current Russian government must fall or be tremendously weakened for the current world order to be maintained and expanded.
Believe it or not, the russian government collapsing wouldn't result in the entire world putting aside their differences and joining hands in song.
The US is currently a bigger threat to "world peace" than russia.
An economically weakened Russia would be a Russia with little to lose, and with the looming threat of political instability, they could seek to galvanize their power by declaring war. Look at it this way. Either the world moves together with Russia, allowing their economy to develop (and with it their society), a growing middle class tends to stifle the appeal of apocalyptic warfare. Anything with a chance of disrupting a cosy life back home won't be popular. But a starved Russia, isolated and rejected could easily decide to bite back, and military strength is one thing they have in abundance.
>>72040335
>We’ve invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine
That's not much. Poland invested over 20 bln dollar in Ukraine from 2008 - 2013, mainly through "unofficial channels".
We also gave them 1 bln euro loan lately.
http://uatoday.tv/politics/poland-to-give-ukraine-eur-1-bln-loan-poroshenko-554465.html
Does it mean that Poland has 5x bigger influence in Ukraine than USA?
>>72038371
Fuck off, you forever anal-pained plumber.
>>72038371
You can easily do it by removing Russia from SWIFT. They would crash and burn, but that's out of the question
>>72040485
>Poland invested over 20 bln dollar in Ukraine from 2008 - 2013, mainly through "unofficial channels".
Why? Who's behind it?
>>72040364
>An economically weakened Russia would be a Russia with little to lose, and with the looming threat of political instability, they could seek to galvanize their power by declaring war.
They didn't declare war in 90s though even though they had much more powerful army at that time than today. They basically began to pimp their children for a loaf of bread.
>>72040178
You are clearly a sheep. Also i dont know why i expected more intelligence from a Polish poster.
>>72040020
>Russias economy collapse won't affect other countries.
No, really. Keep smoking desu.
>>72040648
>Why? Who's behind it?
You are /pol/tard, so you should assume that surely evil Jews
>>72040792
>You are /pol/tard
And you seem to be new here. Fuck off slavshit.
are all poles so butthurt and scared of russia?
>>72040792
How about you give me a serious answer instead of bullshit, Szymon? Why did Poland give Ukraine billions through UNOFFICIAL channels? Certainly there are no US/NATO interests behind this. No, no, no.
>>72041099
Believe it or not, but Poland has its own interests as well.
>>72040695
And that was their "reward" for becoming a western ally and integrating their economy.
>>72041156
US/NATO interests, yes.
>>72038371
The thing is that no one actually wants Russia to collapse. What we need is a strategy for containing their influence abroad, without making Russians more desperate. And that is why it's so bloody hard.
Although one has to say - Americans have managed to achieve that before. They basically used technology transfers to smaller nations, in order to have them balance financial and military influences of the regional power they wanted to constrain. South Korea, Israel, Taiwan, Japan and West Germany are all effects of that policy.
mfw America and Russia build a highway that crosses the Bering Strait, and links our economies together as they should be.
Annex Canada, build wall on Mexican border, and on the Western Russian frontier. Create economic prosperity zone, ignore the rest of the planet entirely.
Trump and Putin vs. the world.
FUCK ALL OF YOU MOTHERFUCKING PUSSY ASS FAGGOTS
>>72040168
You people should start worrying about China now.
Hell, even the US government knows China is now a bigger threat to them than Russia is.
The Chinks have been increasing their military budgets by about 10%, every year, for the past few years, and they announced that they are going to get rid off about 300,000 troops, allowing for the extra budget to be better invested on better training and technology for the remaining 2 milion.
They are also planning on building a military base in Africa, to secure the supply of oil from these regions.
>>72040695
>"lel, they didn't declare war in 90s so lets risk it again :)"
There was a high risk that radicals or/and extremists in former collapsed USSR might have acquired nukes & used them.
The funniest thing is that WW3 won't happen because some of nukes in ME but because of some slavshits willing to play with fire just because of their eternal butthurt. You're seriously that russkies will just bow their heads in submission and "beg forgiveness from the mighty west" this time? You're projecting & delusional.
>>72041156
I highly doubt it's anything else than
>muh vengeance for gommunism
>>72041432
>Hell, even the US government knows China is now a bigger threat to them than Russia is.
That's wrong though. China is an integral part of the global economical system, Russia is not. China's military is heavily overrated, Russian military can compete with American one. China is not aggressive towards NATO and EU, Russia is.
>>72039656
Fucking retard that can't do math
>>72041513
>seriously thinking*
Fix'd
the village idiots running this country will collapse the economy by themselves, you only have to wait.
>>72038371
Why should I hatevRussia enough to try and destroy it?
>>72041763
>Why should I hatevRussia enough to try and destroy it?
They failed to apologize for Katyń properly
>>72041536
China is aggressive towards SEATO, to the point where they have already taken hostage fishermen of SEATO nations and demanded that their governments pay them fines for travelling in international waters. They also ram fishing boats and are militarizing the new islands they've built.
There's a reason why the US is shifting towards the pacific: China is 20x more aggressive than Russia is.
>>72040485
Polan trying to use the Ukies as a "buffer zone" in my opinion
>>72041432
>>72040360
I wrote that post in the perspective of the officials putting ahead the sanctions. The policy toward's China since it was "opened up" was that "they're like us now, communist in name only". That line has been prevailing for years, and now that China's true intentions are being revealed in such instances like the South China Sea, the cognitive dissonance is ramping up.
I wish each official blaming Russia ignoring China read "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" By Deng Xiaoping. The Chinese have been planning their ascent for years now. The AIIB, South China Sea, the new base in Djibouti and Xi Jinping's new ranking in the military could have all been predicted and countered against.
We are now dealing with a rising authoritarian militaristic world power because we've been too focused on Russia even after the USSR collapsed.
>>72041899
Yeah, China tries to kick you out from Pacific and take over control over trade route. But it will take a lot of time and effort before they manage to do it.
Russia already took over most of your influence zone in Middle East and Europe, they try to do it in Asia as well
>>72041763
Because some idiot peasants in unimportant places want us to waste our own taxpayer money and put American lives at risk to finish off their centuries old grudge for them.
>>72041536
>China is not aggressive towards NATO and EU, Russia is
poland is trying to stir conflict with russia hiding behind EU and Nato.
>>72042288
Yeah, sure, it is Poland that violated airspace of baltic countries and nordic countries over 200 times in 2015. It is Polish pilots flying in Russian aircrafts who buzz over American destroyers on baltic sea.
>>72038371
>Russia constantly attacked by US and core European countries for the last 90 years
I'm sure this time it'll stick.
Why do you guys keep replying to this shill?
Any self-respecting polak hates Russia. It's part of their national identity. So nothing interesting here.
>>72042491
Russia is attacking its neighbours constantly for last 2 centuries. I am sure that this time Russia will choke on its new territorial gains
>>72042386
If Russian navy was sailing off the coast of Florida, you fucking bet there would be US planes flying.
>le russians are evil meme
why did this stupidity ever exist?
>>72042603
>If Russian navy was sailing off the coast of Florida, you fucking bet there would be US planes flying.
Russian navy wasn't invited there. On the other hand, American destroyers were invited by Poland on baltic sea which is an international waters and everybody can use it, including American destroyers
>>72042091
nobody cares about the middle east or europe when the south pacific is America's backyard
>>72042685
>Russian navy wasn't invited there.
Last time the cubans invited them LEGALLY burgers almost started WW3 over it.
>>72038371
>Ian Brzezinski
>>72042386
soon as mr trump is elected, russia and us of a will become best buddies, to your disappoitement
>>72041536
See
>>72041899
Yes, China plays a major part in world economy but at the same time they are trying to become a new "world power".
From the day that PLA was created it was mainly to defend China from it's enemies, they used to be very reluctant on taking any military actions outside their borders as it was seen as fascist and imperialistic, mainly due to their ideology, but they have been taking steps to change that for few years now, and the fact that they are becoming more aggressive outside their borders just proves that.
Maybe China was "late" to the economic boom but they worked hard to catch up and took notes on what other major powers were doing while they were busy establishing a strong economy. Now they have the resources to secure their future and even expand, and that's exactly what they are doing in Africa and the Pacific.
>>72042563
Like who?
>>72042790
America's backyard is everywhere. Besides Trump is even more sceptical about Asia than Europe
Trump said the US did not benefit from military involvement in Asia. “We’re constantly sending our ships, sending our planes, doing our war games — we’re reimbursed a fraction of what this is all costing,” he told The Washington Post yesterday.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/trumps-foreign-policy-asia-and-nato-are-a-bad-deal/news-story/7e2e9dd2d23a560ce6394af8f3b583ea
>>72042901
I could actually see that happening.
Has Trump ever commented on such "alliance" ?
>>72038371
>"While Russia is a major oil producer, its oil refineries are outdated and depend on the West and the US," said Brzezinski.
I work in the oil business and this is a total lie. Those jew shills don't even have relevant information. Russia has spent billions over the past years modernising its refineries and today is a major exporter of oil products. Russia is self sufficient to all oil products especially lower quality distillates (fuel oil diesel etc)
>this autistic Finn/Russian diaspora avatarfagging with touhou
when NATO is disbanded I won't spare a single tear when your backwater nation is absorbed
>>72043150
>Those jew shills don't even have relevant information.
Jesus, how i dislike antisemites...
>>72043204
Another thing jews dislike is hard facts.
>>72043044
Might be inevitable seeing as the rise of chinks will become dangerous for both US & Russia.
>>72043185
Finland isn't even a part of NATO, dingus.
>>72043185
>Finland
>NATO
http://fortune.com/2015/03/10/american-millennials-are-among-the-worlds-least-skilled/
>>72042386
>>72041536
Don't listen to little Mariusz there.
I am a Pole too and I can tell you that as much as most people hate Russia in Poland (historical causes) we don't believe that they are our main problem, some people start to even cheer for Russia for bombing ISIS and having a strong stance on the imigrant and terrorist problems, unlike the west, including USA.
>>72040168
I don't want to dissapoint you but if this government will fall because of oblivious western diversion, the much worse one will come. Worse for you and all west of course. Commies will look like little fairies on their background
>>72039450
>>72039577
>openly fund violent armed groups and cuckservative jew puppet politicians do photo ops with terrorists
>conspiracy
>>72043295
The fact is that Brzeziński clan is Polish aristocracy, not Jewish. And i think that he is not very liked by some Jews because he is a main architect of so called "Iran deal"
Look, even your media talked about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifEGiJ2ZxDM
>>72039577
>cospiracy
>not being the most explicit and careless coups / springs ever
><> J
>>72043295
All those beltway think tank jew shills are still pushing the myth that Russia is facing a demographic disaster and the myth that millions of young educated people have left the country.
I reality Russia has much better demographic indicators than good goy countries like Poland or Estonia
>Finland defends russia in an argument with poland
Now thats unexpected
>>72043726
I'm more pointing out US/NATO hypocrisy than defending Russia.
>>72043664
Africa has the best population growth ratio, but somehow shills don't find it as cool as Russia. Besides your "feelings" have nothing to do with objective data.
BTW, your country has even bigger problems than Russia with it
I would also want to ask how do you make compatibile your antisemitism with the fact that Russia is literally "infested" with Jewish people in business and politics?
>>72039895
>Ukraine
>Russian ally
You wat m8.
>>72041882
You must understand what you are asking for.
For Russia to apologise for what the SOVIETS have done before/during/after the WWII would to admit they they are to blame, not the Soviets.
It would portray them as weak, which any super power would not want.
>>72043940
Not anymore. :^)
>>72043821
You think the pole is literally retarded for not noticing a hypocricy?
You think brzepshe dude truly believes he acts on righteous cause?
Dont kid yourself m8, they know exactly what they are doing and why
>>72044042
Then why Germans had to apologize for what NAZIS did? ;)
>>72043726
Both of you (NATO & Russia) are faggots tb.h fambino. We're just not stupid enough to let ourselves be used as meatshields by other powers in a war against you ivans even though we have some grudges from WW2/Cold War period like the poles. The difference is that unlike the poles we actually have a decent, rich nation worth preserving & we don't want to risk it pointlessly.
>>72038371
Agreed. God Bless our Greatest Ally Poland.
>>72040025
Russia are the rightful successors of the Golden horde, your ancestors knew this when they fought against Russia in Crimean War, you should know this as well.
>>72044409
>The difference is that unlike the poles we actually have a decent, rich nation worth preserving
Wow, that's rude and racist :D
>>72044256
Because the germans were pussified intentionally to prevent them rising as a strong, credible world power ever again.
>>72040025
Are the Bongs Butt-hurt now that the Pols have become our greatest ally and have taken your spot?
Redeem yourselves Britcucks and leave the EU.
>>72044501
Poor shitholes usually have more tendency to chimp out in global politics because they don't have any other worth in their countries & they're more willing to risk it. (see Poland, Russia, Turkey, etc.)
The reason why the US/EU is against Russia is because it's not controlled by jews, simple as that.
>>72044790
We are poorer only nominally yet, but if you take relations of cost of living and prices to salaries, we are already a better place to live than Finland, i guess
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:Total_number_of_first_residence_permits_issued_by_reason,_in_2014_V1.png
>>72044697
>and have taken your spot?
Are you still proud of your communist, muslim nigger king for shitting on advanced white nation like UK? Because that's pretty much the reason why UK isn't your #1 ally anymore.
>>72044790
Basically this.
>>72044882
>The reason why the US/EU is against Russia is because it's not controlled by jews, simple as that.
Oh look, another simpleminded antisemite :D Join the Greek: >>72043939
>>72042091
What the hell are you talking about.
After the Soviet Union broke down USA has gained in Europe and all Russia is doing is trying to hold on to the states that stuck with it after it happened.
I am not justifying their actions in Abkhazia, Chechen, Georgia, Afganistan, Crimea and Donbass and other unofficial interventions and proxy wars, I'm just saying that this is how Russia tries to hold or extend their influence and besides all that, military actions is not the only way they "do".
>>72045006
> Georgia taking a part in discussion about wealth of nations
Hilarious :D
>>72044256
Because it was the generation that let it happen, not some poor sods born 30 years later.
And Germany still ass-kissing the jews is bullshit
>>72044790
Before you begin to brag about your higher status, try to persuade these citizens of third world countries that your country is better than theirs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeOW_6o2DnQ
>>72045161
But it's true and I even think it kind of apples to Georgia.
>>72039108
Competition.
>>72040485
Nice job moving the goal posts shill.
You know you are wrong, probably some DOD nigger with a proxy.
>>72044061
>Implying a US imposed gov. and a few thousands neo nazis speak for a country of 50 million
>>72044902
Nice power fantasies, 3rd worlder.
>muh living costs
That excuse can be applied to any ex-soviet shithole. Now, lets take another link from 2014
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/rich-countries/the-10-best-countries-in-the-world-officially/9/
Don't see you on the list.
You're barely above the russkies & that too is because of enormous amount of EU-gibsmedats. But keep dreaming & sipping that vodka, Jaroslaw.
Great. When it happens I am moving to Germany as a refugee
>>72044990
>Are you still proud of your communist, muslim nigger king for shitting on advanced white nation like UK?
No, I want the UK to uncuck itself and have sovereignty (i.e. Leave the EU).
I would just recommend you ignore what the Nigger in chief says for the next few months. Soon he will be out of Office and will be no more relevant than than the average nigger on the streets.
>>72045491
Your "richeness" is a very fragile thing. 2008/2009 crisis gave you a try of what you should expect in the future. Nominal values can flip up very easily with using honkey-ponkey magic.
>>72039674
There are more than two factions here. Libs hating Russia doesn't make Russia our friend
>>72045522
Make sure you beat up any T*rks that you find on the way lol
>>72045387
not an argument
>>72045522
But Vasili, you have to be a Muslim to do that!
>>72040025
>2016
>as if Poland should trust a britcuck
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_betrayal
Jewfelt and Churchill betrayed Poland and sucked soviet dick. Fucking backstabber.
>>72043204
Fuck off cryptojew.
whats with these fucking poles omg
>>72045350
>waah waah, Finland is bad because it's cold & they won't give me 3k gibsmedats immediately & the locals hate us!!!11 the smugglers lied to me ;_;
The mere fact that you take the word of these vermin seriously says pretty much how retarded poles are. No wonder you subhumans are the toilet cleaners of EU.
>>72038371
>How to finish off the Russian economy for the global peace
You mean nuke the USA for global peace?
>>72045924
I have Jewish friends, so i always take antisemitism personally. Don't mind it.
>>72045774
I can always pretend to be one
>>72039577
>conspiracy theories
Oy vey goyim.
>>72044501
>>72045642
>>72045350
>>72045161
>>72043939
>>72044902
>>72044501
>>72043580
>>72039577
>>72043204
Idź spać Mariusz bo jutro do Gimbazjum trzeba iść.
Just so you people know, this guy does not represent the views of the entire population of Poland. And the way he handles himself leads me to believe he is about 16yo so please don't take him seriously.
Signed
Pollack
>>72045642
>"richness"
Ah, success breeds jealousy amongst the inferior.
>>72043726
How its unexpected?
Snow Mongol will side with a dirty Tatar against a Sarmatian true Aryan noble Polish nation.
>>72040168
>The current Russian government must fall or be tremendously weakened for the current world order to be maintained and expanded.
Only Anti-Whites who pursue White Genocide want the current world order to continue.
You are therefore an Anti-White.
>>72046090
>Just so you people know, this guy does not represent the views of the entire population of Poland.
Yeah, right
>>72043008
Mmmm I love this pole sucking American cock, shows how weak and pathetic they are
>>72041363
>What we need is a strategy for containing their influence abroad
Jesus christ lmfao. It's not ''Russian influence'' that needs containing you fucking sheep.
>>72045987
But..
But..
It's not even summer yet, how can you be THIS new?
>>72043726
Mongols stick up for one another you faggot.
>>72045649
why do libs hate russia? they are white and failed at socialism
>>72046120
Globalisation makes the world more equal. Poles move out to the West not because life in your countries in better than in Poland, but because your nominal salaries are 4x higher. Thanks to it, they can save 4x more money in the same period of time than in Poland, pay off their loans in Polish banks 4x faster, or buy apartment in Poland 4x faster, without taking a loan in bank at all.
I hope that you understand it
>>72046184
But it slowly change.
Now go to sleep you fag.
>>72046429
>But it slowly change.
In your head, ONR baby
>>72046364
>Globalisation makes the world more equal.
Globalization makes white countries less white.
>>72041363
What we need is for Russa to stop being a massive faggot and agree to being a part of the American hegemony. Then we can focus on dealing with this SJW shit, and after that we can doubleteam China's economy.
>>72046484
>eastern poland welcomes liberators
>this cuck is actually proud that white polish women are kissing american african colonizers in Poland
You are a fucking anti-white.
>>72046485
>Globalization makes white countries less white.
That's good. You will be less greedy, egoist and less nazi
>>72038371
Good. Fuck them. The less homosexual ruskys, the better.
>>72046498
>What we need is for Russa to stop being a massive faggot and agree to being a part of the American hegemony.
t. anti-white neocon
>>72046543
>>72046557
>That's good. You will be less greedy, egoist and less nazi
No, that's not good. Unless you're an anti-white. This proves that you're an anti-white.
>>72046609
So why are you an anti-white?
Why do you want to extermiante the white race?
Are you mentally ill?
>>72046621
Have a mercy, i am pro-human
>>72046364
>Globalisation makes the world more equal.
You mean 3rd world subhumans come here begging for scraps & feeling proud for it? Top kek, nice healthy economy you have there. I can bet when automatisation becomes real & companies will just start using cleaning robots the kurwanigger economy will be kill.
Daily reminder that if you support the U.S/EU/NATO, you're an anti-white.
Daily reminder that if you oppose those who oppose the U.S/EU/NATO, you're an anti-white.
>>72046676
Being for White Genocide doesn't make you ''Pro-Human''.
>>72046621
Somebody told me today about rise of polish commies on 4chan and I called him faggot but he apparently meant this guy.
>>72046676
White countries for everyone, am i rite?
>>72046498
>they're faggots because they refuse to be our slaves
Holy shit.
>Then we can focus on spreading this SJW shit more efficiently
Fix'd.
>>72046710
Go to bed, Sven. Your psychosis is showing.
>>72046498
>What we need is for Russa to stop being a massive faggot and agree to being a part of the American hegemony. Then we can focus on dealing with this SJW shit
Looks like SJWs will never be fought eh
>>72046747
Do you think jews could stop holocaust by shitposting on 4chan?
>>72045977
You do realise that it "only" takes about 1000 nuclear explosions of size comparable to the ones in Hiroshima and Nagasaki to release enough green house gases to put the entire planet in a nuclear winter for a decade, with temperatures dropping by an average of 20 deg C. Safe to say that with no way to grow food for a decade the human population would have a very slim chance of survival.
And now get this, both the USA and Russia hold about 5000 nuclear warheads (at least the ones they tell us about) each, that is enough for each country to put the entire world in a nuclear winter 5 times. And all that not including China who has fuck know how many warheads.
This is why I despise anyone who's solution for any given problem in the world is to "drop a few nukes on them".
>>72047166
>holocaust
no such thing
>>72044409
>we have some grudges from WW2/Cold War period like the poles.
>Poland's grudge only goes back to WW2
>>72047166
Well, if IDF managed to brainwash Mariusz then maybe, just maybe.
Neoliberals/neocons can't win, you will go the same path as commies. In a way, you're pretty similar to commies.
Even Americans are turning against you, see how Trump is doing. Sure, their anger is misdirected and Trump is a tool, but they are angry.
They don't want to live in a world their elites are building.
>>72046498
>then we can focus
SJW shit is inextricable part of neoliberalism.
One doesn't exist without the other.
>>72046710
Please elaborate.
Also U.S. =/= EU =/= NATO
Y'all know that if Russia's economy goes to shit, Putin will start WW3 for fun right.
Fuck off OP. Right now Russia is the least of our worries. If we have sanctions to put it's on Saudi Arabia and Israel.
>>72046572
I literally said immediately afterward that the next thing to deal with is the SJWs. This is a problem that targets white nations, we must work together to deal with it.
>>72038371
If you want global peace, shouldn't you be sanctioning US?
>>72047548
It's all same shit.
Notice Obama coming to UK to shill for EU.
American elites need EU. EU is a great tool to destroy European nations, to destroy uncooperative elements of European culture.
It must all be destroyed so it doesn't impede the world they are building.
But as I said, they will fail.
>>72038978
both are destroyers
>>72047548
US = NATO =/= EU
Obce russia is brought to heel we should offer them belarus and ukraine to join the eu
>>72038371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBTdB5Pj3s
>>72044464
>Russia are the rightful successors of the Golden horde
says the goat fucking mountain shitskin, ahaha! you have a big nose with black hair sticking out of it, Vahtang.
>>72039450
>>72039577
>>72039895
Has everyone forgotten the Orange Revolution?
https://youtu.be/lpXbA6yZY-8?t=14m14s
>>72046621
>>72046662
>>72046710
>>72046747
>>72046621
>>72046747
>>72046621
Dude go to sleep, you are starting to sound all Nazi out of exhaustion.
>>72047027
They're faggots because they refuse to accept reality.
>>72047332
There was Holocaust. But there was no Polish death camps :D
http://youtu.be/4C4_VkUxg3o
>>72042091
>Russia already took over most of your influence zone in Middle East and Europe
WTF are you even talking about? This has to be b8.
>>72047536
I support Trump, dipshit.
>>72046569
>USA
>calling Russians "homosexuals"
Well this is interesting, seems like somebody doesn't even know what is going on in his own backyard, not even mentioning Russia
>>72047992
Daily reminder that Georgians are THE white people.
https://georgiaabout.com/2012/07/14/about-history-the-oldest-europeans/
>>72046429
>>72046184
Is your daddy in PO by any chance?
But seriously now, when was that research taking place, because in the last few years a lot has changed. Besides nowhere in there I wrote that people don't "like" the USA anymore, capitalism and the "American way" brought much happiness to the people of Poland after years of Soviet occupation and to this day people think of "America" as the "land of the free".
I think the Polish dude is just a masochist. He loves his little shitty country getting invaded two times a decade and wants to stir some shit up.
>>72048427
My neighbour georgian moved to Brasil because he will be Russian there. But he is churka here. That's all you need to know about "white" georgians
>>72049033
Hey, go read up on history and geo-politics before you start calling someones country "shitty".
But I agree, there is something wrong with my compatriot. It's probably the left-wing bullshit he's been feed all life clashing with the fact that the right-wing party is in power in Poland now and he is so butthurt that he just wants to use this place as an outlet.
>>72048238
Look at Austria and realize who won first part of elections there. A neonazi guy who wants to remove sanctions from Russia
>>72049388
>churka
How is it going Tesak? I thought that you moved to Cuba.
>>72048238
>>72049556
Look at Mariusz changing his subject as soon as he's asked a question about something he said.
>>72038978
Gets Destroyed: History of Poland
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>72049727
I am talking about the subject. Thats how Russia takes over power in Europe with using its agents. Germany (AfD) and France (Le Pen) are next in the queue. All these parties are funded by Russia
>>72038371
>Sanctioning a net oil exporter that isn't a middle eastern shithole
We'll get right on that, famalam
>>72048427
Using the same logic as you applied in this post you could say that blacks are THE people.
Just because the remains of the first "white" people were discovered on the terrain of a particular country it does not mean that people living in that country are the original white people.
At the time when these people lived there there was no such thing as Georgia, and for all we know Georgia might as well not exist to this day, given how long ago it was and how many different things has happened and could have happened between now and then.
>>72049556
Oh lol, it took you too long to pull that one example. Surely, winning "first part of the election" = "Russia took over most of the US influence zone in Middle East and Europe".
Nice try, fag.
>>72050061
>Thats how Russia takes over power in Europe with using its agents
How is that exactly?
>Germany (AfD) and France (Le Pen) are next in the queue
Getting 10-20% in Bundestag = "took over most of US influence zone in Middle East and Europe"?
>>72050265
Russia is very influential also in your country. You have a lot of Russian "businessmen" who rise hour corruption to Russian level. They drive expensive cars in center of Riga, while most population lives in Russia-tier shit
>>72038371
>Attempt to destroy the Russian economy
>For world peace
Lol.
More like they'd at a piece of Poland if they were destabilized too much.
Stop stirring the pot.
>>72049691
Nope
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ksNMEZBhuQI
I moved to Ukraine
>>72050519
You have started about "took over most of the US influence zone in Middle East and Europe" then it was AfD and Le Pan, now it's Latvia?
Gasping at straws are you?
Are you going to lecture me about my own country now?
>>72050742
I only try to say that Russia is very intluential in Europe
>>72047077
>Your psychosis is showing.
Am I psychotic for opposing the U.S/EU/NATO that is causing white genocide by oppressing nationalists, starting wars in non-white countries, and then inviting in the non-white refugees to our countries, promoting racemixing propaganda in entertainment, and holding military drills in Sweden to ''suppress a peoples uprising'', while centralizing laws and production?
No, I'm SANE for opposing that.
>>72043726
Meh, at least you are openly hostile when you are being hostile. The insidious murricans are imperialistic fucks while acting like they have the best interests of the countries they are "liberating" in their hearts.
>>72047548
They're all virtually the same thing. All of them are anti-white and the greatest threat to the continued existence of the white race.
>>72047609
>Putin will start WW3 for fun right.
t. McCain
>>72047712
''SJWs'' are useful idiots at the hands of an international elite based in the U.S, using the EU/NATO to control Europe and exterminate the white race.
The ''SJW''s are not the ''big bad'', they are just tools. The U.S is the primary enabler of the White Genocide agenda. If you support U.S establishment, you're an Anti-White.
>>72048045
I'm a national socialist. As is most of /pol/, except the newfriends and the CIA shills.
>>72050826
Bull-fucking-shit.
You said
>took over most of your influence zone in Middle East and Europe
That's past tense. Already happened. It's not "very" influential, it means America doesn't have any influence left in Europe AND the Middle East.
>>72050061
You are against european nationalism = You are an Anti-White.
>>72051054
And you are Polish. How do you feel to support ideology that killed 7 million of your countrymen including 3 million of catholics?
>>72047338
>WW2/Cold War period
Ameriniggers really are as stupid as the memes say.
>>72048109
>it's reality because i say so!!!!11 now, surrender your nation, goy
>>72051193
>Middle of the fucking night
>Shits on Russia for 2 hours
>41 posts
>Dose it for free
I want to believe. Shoo you Jew shill.
>>72038371
You do realize that in Russia the only part of opposition that could ever hope to win any kind of democratic elections is the one that believes Putin is too indecisive, right? Apart from Putin's successors along with parts of the current political elites, there are some delusional libertarians and shady crooks mumbling some shit about "free market will sort everything out" on the one hand, and forces like the new Girkin's (military games roleplayer and the leader of Dumbass terrorists) party. The latter has mr. Girkin - a terrorist aiming to become a president and build the true Russian world, mr. Kungurov - a neostalinist who wants to become a PM and cancel money, mr. Limonov - an infamous Russian neonazi writer (could become the Minister of culture, I guess) and a few other neonazi, Stalinist or religious fanatics. These guys already have support of some FSB people (you don't become a leader of invading terrorists otherwise), and most Russians would elect them over any liberal any day.
If characters like those come into power, they'll bomb the hell out of everything to the east of Western Berlin, NATO or no NATO. Unlike Putin, they don't fear death: they've been willingly walking into some bad shit "for the Russian world", "to spite the regime", etc. They won't listen to any globalist juice masters, they'll just annex Poland along with everyone else and kill the hell out anything that so much as squeaks in protest.
>>72050826
That is true. It's also very tiny compared to the jewish one in the west and also a ton less harmful for the world in general. I for one welcome it.
You must be new to /pol/
You're not going to get a lot of sympathies here when you're asking for even more chaos in the world and for whites to go at each others.
>>72050061
And?
Are you implying that no other country, including USA, does shit like that?
That's how politics work, and any country that can, does it.
There is no "good guys" or "bad guys", just conflicts of interests.
As Karen Marie Moning wrote in "Bloodfever":
“There are only shades of gray. Black and white are nothing more than lofty ideals in our minds, the standards by which we try to judge things, and map out our place in the world in relevance to them. Good and evil, in their purest form, are as intangible and forever beyond our ability to hold in our hand as any Fae illusion. We can only aim at them, aspire to them, and hope not to get so lost in the shadows that we can no longer aim for the light.”
And as our compatriot A. Sapkowski summarised:
"World, which is not black and white, but every aspect of goodness and evil is rather in different shades of gray."
Stop blindly trusting that something you believe is inherently "good" or "bad" and start questioning everything about your believes. Only then you will see the world for what it truly is.
>>72038371
Poland should be our only ally
They are the only country with balls
>>72051475
Oh you :D
Goodnight
>It's another Western shillvs. Eastern shill episode
>>72050571
Wait, are you implying that tesak and Saakashvily are the same person?
>>72051491
>You do realize that in Russia the only part of opposition that could ever hope to win any kind of democratic elections is the one that believes Putin is too indecisive, right? Apart from Putin's successors along with parts of the current political elites, there are some delusional libertarians and shady crooks mumbling some shit about "free market will sort everything out" on the one hand, and forces like the new Girkin's (military games roleplayer and the leader of Dumbass terrorists) party. The latter has mr. Girkin - a terrorist aiming to become a president and build the true Russian world, mr. Kungurov - a neostalinist who wants to become a PM and cancel money, mr. Limonov - an infamous Russian neonazi writer (could become the Minister of culture, I guess) and a few other neonazi, Stalinist or religious fanatics. These guys already have support of some FSB people (you don't become a leader of invading terrorists otherwise), and most Russians would elect them over any liberal any day.
>If characters like those come into power, they'll bomb the hell out of everything to the east of Western Berlin, NATO or no NATO. Unlike Putin, they don't fear death: they've been willingly walking into some bad shit "for the Russian world", "to spite the regime", etc. They won't listen to any globalist juice masters, they'll just annex Poland along with everyone else and kill the hell out anything that so much as squeaks in protest.
By the power of kek, if trip$ it happens..........
>>72051054
What if I don't consider myself any of these three but somewhere in the middle?
unrelated.. copying source folder from nix box to shitdows 10, fucker detected malware..
don't touch my shit microsoft
>>72038371
If anything we should impose sanctions on sweden for being cucks.
>>72051131
You are exaggerating Sved, despite what SWJ want everyone to believe you don't have to go super nationalistic to be able to control your immigration problems.
>>72052145
One does not get in the way of the other m8.
>>72052342
It might be more effective to just let Russia Annex everything up to Sweden.
>>72052496
Except they will not stop at Sweden.
>>72047834
>>72050891
I can kind of agree with this >>72047870
And only kind of because NATO doesn't always tag along for every "holiday" USA goes on, even though USA tries.
When it comes to comparing the EU and NATO, EU is strictly a political and economic union for European countries while NATO is a military alliance of Northern Atlantic countries.
You could argue that NATO acts as a military force of the EU and US combined and works for the benefit of both but as I said previously, NATO doesn't always agree with the US and some of the endeavours have no clear impact on the EU.
Besides, you all faggots (including myself) should have stopped replaying to Mariusz after he posted this gem.
If this is not a clear b8 then I don'k know what is.
>>72053415
He's so naive...
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>>72036077
>>72036077
>>72036077
>>72048212
He really is new to /pol/
>>72048212
This guy must be new.
>>72051491
SO...we will get raided by Russian Neo-Nazi-Stalinists soon? Holy mother of kek! Have we even remained in the same dimension?
>>72039450
The people of kiev wanted revolution, the attendance of euromaidan made that clear. Libya is irrelevant, syria is irrelevant, and Iran is a theocratic shit hole on par with the House of Saud. Obviously countries have agendas, however historically when the US is the victor in these conflicts these countries have an increase in trade and can actually vote in some cases for the first time in decades. The US is just better at nation building then Russia. Before you point out muh libya or some shit, libya wasnt about nation building or defending anyone, quite frankly the CIA just didnt like Gadaffi for whatever reason. We can shitpost all we want on here, and idolize all these dictators for standing up against the big bad west, but at the end of the day we both know they're up to some dark shit.
>>72055278
>The people of kiev wanted revolution,
Just as the Americans wanted to enter WW2 before Pearl Harbour. :-)
>>72038371
Yes let us start WWIII with Russia, for 'peace.'
>>72055470
We actually did.
Read this book.
FDR ran on an anti-war ticket and worked his ass off behind the scenes to make sure we entered the war.
>>72055278
really? what nations have you built?
>>72055278
>but at the end of the day we both know they're up to some dark shit
And the USA is not?
>Libya is irrelevant
"Libya holds the largest proven oil reserves in Africa" U.S. Department of Energy
>Syria is irrelevant
Proven offshore expeditions have indicated that large sums of oil exist on the Mediterranean Sea floor between Syria and Cyprus." The Institute of Mining and Metallurgical Engineers.
>Iran is a theocratic shit hole
Not saying that it's not but it become one after people got fed up of dealing with the Shah that the U.S. helped to install as the head of state. In other words, you made it into a theocratic shit hole.
>>72056054
MOST of America prior to Pearl Harbour didn't want having anything to do with WW2, that's a fact.
>>72056814
Most of every country doesn't matter though, this is also a fact.
>>72038978
Builder of degeneracy...
GTFO of /pol
everyone here knows we are saviors of the white race.
>>72058048
>Most of every country doesn't matter though, this is also a fact.
I know "democracy" doesn't really matter, but I was talking about public perception and the long tradition of influencing it towards different goals, it's even called Perception Management by U.S. services.
>>72058185
Chill Ivan, this no time or place to play a hero
>>72038978
Lol don't Polish nowadays clean toilets in UK for a living? At least under Russian occupation you didn't need to travel to another country to do your shitty job.
>>72059423
Yeah, and every Canadian is a lumberjack.
GTFO if you don't have anything constructive to say
>>72058185
The USSR was the source of all the degenerate marxist debauchery that takes place in the West today. You aren't saving the white race, you destroyed it.
Sure Polandbro,it's not like our country endured hardships before. Just drop them prices and then we give up,yeah. If anything,should our government break down and go fulll empirialism,you are among the first on the list of countries we set out to pilage.
>>72060784
>USSR wasn't a Jewish plan to fuck up glorious Tzarist Russia
Come on,step up your game.
>>72055278
Translation: ''White Genocide is good''
>>72059423
Stop picking on our greatest ally you $2 whore. If we wanted the opinion of an American bitch colony we'll come get you.
Back to the cuckshed you go.
>>72060538
Fuck of Pajeet
>>72061473
You mean Israel? How many lives and treasure did you lose supporting your greatest ally you fat dumb cuck?
>>72061473
Nice that you are defending Polan but calling Canada a "bitch colony" is a bit hypocritical considering the U.S. history.
>>72061817
>Pajeet
I am a Pole who lives in UK for 10 years now and from my personal experience I can tell you that your argument:
"Polish nowadays clean toilets in UK for a living"
is invalid.
>>72058185
Haven't laughed like that since tay. ty subhuman
>>72062574
>that shit 12 years a slav poster
At least get good at shitposting,burgerbro.
>>72062201
The real question is why are you so angry?
So you had a shit time under the Russians, but at least you didn't have to travel to fuck knows where to YES - clean toilets. Literally and figuratively - do shit jobs. Or you want to tell me that vast majority of Poles in UK are doctors, lawyers and investment bankers?
The US has to have an enemy to keep its MIC going. Also, Russia has not yet succumbed to political correctness.
So instead of joining forces with Russia and going to the moon and Mars and shit, we're going to impose trade sanctions and cry about Pussy Riot type bullshit.
Sorry Russbros, but this country is led by retards.
However, at the going rate, this country will be Brazil, 2.0, France and Germany will be Iraq North, and your country will be owning Europe.
>>72055278
>"all our Ukraine-tier fuckups of destroying other nations are irrelevant! doesn't matter, doesn't matter ;^)"
Fuck off, Yeb.
>>72042549
Hates Soviets. Not our fault that you embrace Soviet history as your own.
>>72062766
Who are you referring to when you say "why are you so angry" ? Is it me specifically or just the Polish people as the whole?
As to your second statement, yes, most Polish people living in the UK do the "shit jobs", mostly factory and construction work, but that is mainly because of three reasons:
1. Most of these people only wanted to get a job quickly as possible because they are here temporarily, to save up some money and go back home, and since even the minimal paid jobs are better paid than most jobs in Poland (considering that for every GBP you can get about 4-6 PLN) they go to a factory, work 12h shifts, 7 days a week, just to save up and go back as quickly as they can.
2. Many of the people leaving Poland to look for a job abroad are the lower end of the society (what you would consider the typical "slavs", track suits and all) and they go abroad because they are unable to find a job at home. These people have no qualifications and most of the time they don't care for better jobs because minimal wage is good enough for them.
3. All the reaming people are the ones with qualifications and knowledge but most of them lack the language skills and specific UK qualifications to work in their field, so they work the "shit jobs" while learning English and trying to get back into their field. (that is how my father progressed from when he first came to work in UK)
In general, there is a big shift now in more and more Polish people moving away from the "shit jobs" to more professional and skilled fields and it's attributed to the fact that many of the people who were here temporarily have left now and many of the professionals have acclimated themselves and call UK their home, making them move more and more to their fields.
>>72063506
>anti-semite
>people stil don't realise that Semitic Religions include Judaism, Christianity, and Islam
>still listening to Jews telling you that anti-semite means anti-jew
>not using the more appropriate "Judenhass" (Jew-hatred)
>>72064540
Good answer Thomaz, I won't troll you anymore.
One more question though - is true that polish rage against russia stems mostly from Poland's defeat in WW2, and not because of communism per say. That is - you considered yourself to be the highest slavs, but in the end you got rickrolled by both the germans and the russians, and had to surrender.
>>72058185
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Yea ok buddy.
Throughout 20th century your Communist gov was completely controlled by Kikes. Now is no different either.
>>72065336
Well there is a lot in there. Poland is in a very bad, geo-political position in Europe, throughout the history we were kind of a "buffer zone" between two or three major powers at the time.
A great example of that is the Partitions of Poland, which were a series of three partitions of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, conducted by the Russian Empire, the Kingdom of Prussia and Habsburg Austria at the end of the 18th century. With each partition the land controlled by Poland was smaller and smaller until with the 3rd partition Poland as an sovereign state had been eliminated for 123 years. During that time each of the occupiers had their own ways of dealing with the Polish populace, with the Russian controlled territories being the worst of the three.
Russians imposed so called "Russification" and started to confiscate land and property, deportations to labour camps, forced military service and abolishment of the Polish language, so much so that Poles were not allowed to speak Polish in public and Russian was tough as the first language in schools.
Not including the brief period between 1807 and 1815 when Napoleon set up the Duchy of Warsaw, Poland would not show up on the maps of Europe until after the WWI, which ended in 1918.
So between 1918 and 1939 Poland had 21 years as a sovereign state (which many people don't realise, with all the jokes about cavalery charging tanks and all) and even though they managed to rebuild much of their economy.
But then WWII started, with a Nazi provocation where they attacked their own troops stationed at a radio tower at the Polish-Nazi German border and blamed it on the Poles.
>>72067481
The polish army, outnumbered, under-trained and under-equipped, had put up a lot of defense but there was no stopping the Blitzkrieg and any chance of surviving long enough for help from France and Britain to get there (which just after WWI allied with Poland and promised to help in case this exact situation happens) was crushed when Soviet Union attacked just 12 days after the Nazis invaded.
Both the Soviets and the Nazis were working on a complete subjugation of the Polish nation and they did not care for the methods. Mass executions (with the focus on the intellectuals, military officials and politicians), deportations to labour camps and destruction of Polish culture were common practice on both sides during the occupation.
All that continued while Nazis decided to invade the Soviets. Soviets got pushed back quite far but the Russian winter and a stall in Nazi advances saved them and they managed to push them pack. Knowing that the front is coming back to Poland the leaders of the underground in the occupied Warsaw decided on an uprising, thinking that the Soviets would get to Warsaw soon and help them out. And they did get to Warsaw quite soon but stopped on the outskirts while the uprising was still ongoing, letting Nazis and Poles kill each other, even refusing the allied planes, that were dropping supplies for the underground, to use the airport on the outskirts of Warsaw they took over.
Later on the underground surrendered, after 63 days, about 16,000 resistance members and 200,000 civilians killed, another 700,000 expelled and over 83% of the city destroyed.
Later the Soviets marched on, "liberating" Warsaw and eventually taking Berlin.
After the war, Polands allies have left Poland for the taking yet again, letting the Soviet Union take control of it's entire territory and establishing communism. It was not Poland’s salvation but just another occupation which lasted for another 44 years.
>>72068775
The Soviet Union installed a communist puppet government, which, with help from the Soviets, have brutally ended any attempts of revolting over the new rule and then buried all the evidence of bravery by the Poles during and after the war with communist propaganda.
Finally in 1989, after many protests and raise of the independent trade union "Solidarity" Poland has turned into a "democratic" country. And I wrote "democratic" because, as it has recently been revealed, the leader of "Solidarity" and president of Poland between 1990 and 1995 turned out to be an agent put in place by the communist government to pose as the new "democratic" leader, which enabled most of the people that were in power up to 1989 to stay in power after his election in 1990. And as I said this was only recently revealed, 26 years after his election, which means that there are probably still post-communist era people who are still in power in Poland.
So the rage that many people have against the Russia is simply from the occupation after the WWII and stuff like what is going on in Donbass and Crimea justify our fear of Russias imperialistic tendencies.
Although in my opinion it is important to distinguish the Soviet Union from the Russian Federation and I can understand that, to some extend, Russia is protecting their interests and populace in Donbass and Crimea.
Russians are a bit bitter against Poland as well since we were the only nation to ever take Moscov and the day of its liberation from Polish hands is a national holiday in Russia to this day, known as Unity Day and held on 4th of November.
>>72063037
Shut the fuck up you cuck faggot holy shit kill yourself. Suck Ivan's cock more faggot have some pride.
>>72069632
Also, if you ever wonder why Polish people might be quite vocal against any signs of socialism in politics, it's simply because we experienced it first hand, and it pretty much never works like it is described.
I was always surprised at the amount of socialist parties and clubs in the UK but I guess it's only because this country has not experienced actual communist rule.
>>72054377
that not even a joke.
>>72042549
Read
>>72067481
>>72068775
>>72069632
From my own opinion, Russian people are A O K and we are pretty much like brothers, they only thing is the history between us, with Russia always having imperialistic tendencies and Poland not being happy with being under someone else rule.
But we should look ahead and not behind, we should work together to create the Pan-Slavic Union, with all the rest of our Slavic brothers and sisters. We should step away from self destructive ways of the West and become united, while maintaining our unique culture and language.
>>72071122
We are not brothers since, there Russia and not Russia.
Pan-slavism was a thing when Austria Hungary and Prussia were kind of big deal.
>>72071942
I don't understand your first sentence, rephrase it.
And who says that we could not bring Pan-Slavism back, especially with all the shit that's going on in the world right now.
>>72052852
That might not be an entirely bad thing
>>72072166
>I don't understand your first sentence, rephrase it.
How so?
Okay ill make it more easilly to undestand.
Any one who live outside of Russia, are our enemy.
>not bring Pan-Slavism back
There is no such thing as panslavism its cover word for Russian empire sphere of influence.
> especially with all the shit that's going on in the world right now.
That is clearly not our trouble and we t. Russians should stay out of it.
Since it wont be far too long until some retard decided to go full libensraum on us again, with yet another united europe against us.That is never ending cycle. We cant break off from it.
>>72072870
>Any one who live outside of Russia, are our enemy
What are you? 12?
Do you understand how politics and economy work?
Do you want your country to become like a bigger and more advanced version (but still shitty) of North Korea?
Do you not understand that foreign relations are important, even for "mother Russia".
If you are an nationalists, fine, it's your opinion.
You would not want the slavic nations to work together? Fine.
But please don't go around spewing shit like that without any kind of background knowledge. It makes your countrymen look like the stereotypical "hurr-durr mother Russia stronk, we war everyone" type of people.
>>72038801
Well they did invade your country at one point
Just as a foot note to those who hold western values. Russia has it's own interests, nearly all of which contradict US and Western interests. The only way to get along with Russia is to treat them as an equal in a bilateral relationship, but I would be hesitant to fully trust Russians.
>>72038371
> Brzezinski
hes a jew. with fagy jew dreams of being able to crush russia by talking shit
FYI russia has been selling more oil than EVER thanks to those sanctions and currency devaluation. i mean FFS you try any harder they might become the global police
>>72038371
What's up with all the anti Russian propaganda, this place is becoming a shit hole with all these shills.
No thanks we will make more money trading with Russia and her partners.
>>72074143
>What are you? 12?
24 actually.
>Do you understand how politics and economy work?
Name one ally that Russia have.
Partners =\= Allies.
>Do you want your country to become like a bigger and more advanced version (but still shitty) of North Korea?
We are the one who made north korean regime.
>Do you not understand that foreign relations are important, even for "mother Russia".
They are not.
>If you are an nationalists, fine, it's your opinion.
I am not, our nationalists are pure cancer.
>You would not want the slavic nations to work together?
How much do i need to repeat it?
Pan slavism is a form of influence grab based on culture\ethnicity.
How are you gonna measure slavic votes in this allaince? based on population? cultural\techological achievements?Millitary power?
That would end up with 65% of vote electoral held by Russian and other 25% by Poland. with 10% by other irrelevant shitholes
See? nothing has changed.
Are you some sorf of leftist or what?
Do you really belive that people are equal?
>>72056364
Off the top of my head we rebuilt Western Europe with the martial plan, we set the Japs off pretty well and we also sustained South Korea.
In other words, shoo shoo RT news.
>>72038978
Figured a Pole would say that.
>>72060906
Theyll never forgive you for Warsaw. And slicing territories off their nation every chance you get. Hussaria!
Jk Russia > Poland anyday. But poland aint shit either. Poland is a NATO pawn.
>>72062766
Da fuck u talking about? Poland made Witcher III. Russia makes shit videogames.
Frankly I don't see why we should give a shit about Europe, all the Europeans do is bitch at us and not fulfill their military obligations. I mean Russia is in a pretty shitty spot, China and Russia work together because their common enemy is America. However, as America's influence wanes China will look at Russia with hungry eyes.
America's biggest threat is China, Russia's biggest threat is China. I think the solution is obvious.
>>72063418
Its your history too.
>>72076215
If you didnt sit out the first 4 YEARs of the war it would of never been destoryed in the first place. If you sat back and let hitler win it would of never been destoryed most of europe was in ruins because you wanted to puppet europe. The USA didn't build shit. You stole it all from all the former europeon empires. The you fucked it up because you dont know how to run an empire like the Brits!
>>72077542
kek
You know until the cold war was over things were pretty sweet right?
>>72038371
You faggot soccer team and it's retarded fans will get so analy rekt in 2018. I wouldn't go there if I were you, you pig headed scum trash.
>>72075712
>Name one ally that Russia have. Partners =\= Allies.
Nowhere in there I said anything about allies
>We are the one who made north korean regime.
And your point is?
>[foreign relations are important?] They are not.
And you base that on what?
>I am not, our nationalists are pure cancer.
Ok, but you really talk like one
>How much do i need to repeat it? (...)
If you knew how to read properly you would have understood that I said that I'm fine with you not wanting that kind of Union to happen.
But since you started talking about it I will respond to what you said.
>Pan slavism is a form of influence grab based on culture\ethnicity.
Maybe, but the entire time I was talking about a Union (go read my posts), google what a union means
>How are you gonna measure slavic votes in this alliance?
Union. And I would not be one making the laws for it but I guess it would work something like:
- every country gets to elect some number of Union representatives (same number for each country)
- these representatives vote on stuff that has influence on everyone in the Union
>Are you some sort of leftist or what?
No, I'm a right-centrists
>Do you really believe that people are equal?
I have no idea where you got "people" from as a whole as I was referring to Slavs in my posts, and I was not talking about equality either but about a Union of people with similarities in language and culture and common roots, that go back thousands of years ago.
tl;dr Learn to read and stop putting words in other peoples mouths Ivan
