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I agree with /pol/ on pretty much everything except religion.
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I agree with /pol/ on pretty much everything except religion. Are most of you actually Christians or is that just a meme? How can you believe in a God that would fuck up an innocent guy's fig tree like that and just walk off?
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>>72037874
i am christian
what are you?
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>>72037874

Catholic here. Gaytheists belong in Reddit.
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>>72037874
Christianity is the true redpill.
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>>72037874
We are Christian or religious
Been that like that way back in 2006 with the old /n/ Wednesday and Sunday Church threads

/new/'s nightly ossuary threads (rolled over into early /pol/)

And up until recently The Christian and Muslim Generals
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>>72038059

Not really sure what to call myself. I align more with Christian (Calvinist) values than any other religion, I just don't believe the bible or any form of it is 100% truth. I'd rather not call myself an atheist, because they're generally insufferable. Nor do I want to identify as an agnostic, because they seem equally as retarded.
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I think even the atheists here support christianity if they're not here to troll.
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Gnostic.
Priase KEK!
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>>72037874
Fedora tipper here

I may not believe in God personally but I prefer the company of Christians over Atheists (especially libtard Atheists).

I just don't agree with Christians with their wanting to destroy Separation of Church and State and borderline psychotic anti-Muslim paranoia.
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Im a agnostic but i go to church and think it doesnt matter if you are a believer or not but christianity is a part of Europe and must be preserved as pure as possible
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>>72038059
>>72038122
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>>72038186

Seriously though, why did he have to jack that fig tree up? That was completely uncalled for and very un-Godlike. I can forgive Jesus for everything else, but not for what he did to that tree.
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>>72038415
Catholic here, separation of church and state is definitely a necessity if we want peace in a nation such as the US. As for muslims, I'm not too sure what I think about them.
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>>72038493
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/646-why-did-jesus-curse-the-fig-tree
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/pol/ is a nazi occult board
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>>72037874
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, is our Saviour and only way to Heaven
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/pol/ is, always has been, and always will be, a Christian board.
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Also, which version of the bible does /pol/ read? And why that version over other versions?
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>>72038704

Excuses. You know he shouldn't have fucked that tree up. It was just a poor, innocent tree. And he could have used his Jesus powers to make it bear fruit if he wanted, but he chose to just wreck its shit instead.

#treelivesmatter
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>>72039014
KJV, version I grew up with and the wording not being modernized just seems more fitting.
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>>72037874
/pol/ is a Christian board.
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>>72039014

King James. Dat poetry.
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>>72039251

>literally questioning God, who suffered and died for his sins

You're not from around here, huh?
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I think pol is a mix of edgy orthodox, wanna be"s, meme Catholics, and stormfags who think Christianity is is just another Jewish trick hat crumbled Rome. With a few actual Christians sprinkled through out.
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>>72038937
>mfw I'm almost everything on that list, but I'm a total piece of crap Jesus wouldn't wipe his feet on
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>>72037874
>innocent
You never met that fig tree.
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>>72039666
Then learn to know Him...
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>>72038632
Fundamentalist Muslims who think Shitria Law is a good idea are absolute shitheads who don't belong here to be sure. But too many people seem to apply this necessary prejudice against literally every single Muslim, regardless of circumstance.

Some even go full Jon Ritzheimer and advocate destroying Mosques/killing Muslims to forward their retarded fantasy of re-fighting the Crusades here.

What happened to respect for the Rights and Property of others? Is that not what the Bill of Rights is for? So every citizen could be safe and secure in their own home from being accosted for no reason?

And while I'm on the subject, we have Separation of Church and State to prevent things like Sharia Law from happening here.
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>>72039666

People say the Church is full of hypocrites and sinners but that isn't true, we have room for plenty more.
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>not being a deist
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>>72037874
I'm a Christian.
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>>72039666
Jesus loves you more than anything in the world
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>>72037874
It isn't a meme, we are christians
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>>72037874
I am but a sinner
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>>72041235
Luke 19:10 "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DMLX-6uc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdq3lQzTKZY
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I am an atheist, but support religion as a means to an end. I will most likely pick a church and raise my children in the church community. Religion and philosophy are what keeps us away from savagery. Most atheists are definitely part of "the problem".
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>>72037874
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>>72041400
Diary reminder

call me the meanie stormfag you want, but you can't face the fact THAT you are worshipping a dead kike on a stick.
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>>72041921
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>>72037874
Fuck the christcucks here desu
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>>72041921
>worshipping a dead kike on a stick.

fine by me
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>>72042348
>kike
>fine
good goy detected
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>>72037874
Christianity is the only reason Europe hasn't been brown for nearly a millennia. Umayyad bro?
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>>72042523
Why is it doing such a shitty job in your country though?
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>>72042500
he denounced the jews after the broke the coveneant, the jews of today hate Christ more than muslims. They find him repulsive, and use every medium to attack the logos
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>>72039621
this
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>>72041921
And you have to face the fact that you are rejecting the heritage and traditions of your forefathers, who have been Christian for over a thousand years.
The pagans before them got literally cucked by the Christians.

you must choose my son: Kike, cuck or fedora.
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>>72037874
The overwhelming majority of self-proclaimed "Christians" around here are atheists that are ashamed to be associated with the majority of other atheists.
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Atheist with spiritual beliefs. So long as you aren't muslim, jewish, fedora, or a crazy christkek like Cruz, you're okay in my book.
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>>72041921
>>72041994
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>>72042500
>Time to show those stupid christfags how fucking stupid they are by sperging out at spamming a folder full of euphoric images.
Get out, hothead.
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>>72042710
>would proudly practice homosexuality
ayy lmao this is what christcucks actually believe

Tacitus in his Germania stated that "In the assembly it is allowed to present accusations, and to prosecute capital offences. Punishments vary according to the quality of the crime. Traitors and deserters they hang upon trees. Cowards, and sluggards, and unnatural prostitutes they smother in mud and bogs under an heap of hurdles. Such diversity in their executions has this view, that in punishing of glaring iniquities, it behoves likewise to display them to sight; but effeminacy and pollution must be buried and concealed." The "unnatural prostitutes" (Latin: "corpore infames") are argued to be homosexuals.
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>>72041921
>>72041994
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>>72042097
>>72042187
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>>72042500
Thanks for bumping the thread and keeping important matter on first page. Christ is mighty.
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>>72043094
You can't sage on /pol/, idiot.
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>>72038059

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2WkS-x-8gU
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>>72042876
>Cruz
>Christian
What. He's definitely not Christian.

http://youtu.be/aHO77XX-hiE

Also
>atheist with spiritual beliefs
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>>72037874
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>>72037874
I refuse to believe that /pol/ is populated by idiots, so Im sure a great deal of them are trolls.
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>>72042876
cruz is a masonic shill parading as an evangelic poof

>>72043358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0cBA0kOGFc
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we only LARP as crusaders from time to time because it's fun

no one here actually believes in sky wizards though
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>>72043380
>What is Dharma.

It doesn't matter what your dedinition is. The man calls himself a Christian, and so do many like him. They may be bad Christians, but you can't deny they are Christian. It's no different than,
>ISIS aren't real muslims!
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>>72043068
You seem awfully buttflustered.
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pick a side and stick with it fags
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I prefer the authorised King James Version, I like a bit of oldskool fire'n'brimstone.
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>>72043565
>le everyone is just memeing
>le sky(insert mystical being here)
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>>72043573
Ted Cruz isn't Christian and ISIS aren't real Muslims.
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>>72038059

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxp74hB-4Zw

Nothing against traditional Catholicism
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>>72043593
>Hitler is the supreme authority on everything

He also only cared about the LARPing faggots. Taking philosophic ideals from our ancestors is completely different.
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>>72037874
Because the absence of evidence is evidence
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>>72043750
>>72043534

Better
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>>72043593
if he was alive, he would change his views on Christianity quickly.

Also
An fleshed out argument against christianity would be about three books so I cant really dive into that fully. But I can give you the tl;dr lines of thought. I'm assuming you reject liberal egalitarianism and modernism? Accounts vary as to if all early christians were expected to sell all they own and communise their funds with the church…

But at the very least even the most /pol/-tier christian submits to the point that galatians means that there is a spiritual/ideological equality and that slavery is forbidden under christ between all of humankind:

>Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Now, they may tiptoe around the fact that it never says anything about biological or material equality… But the fact abounds that the principles of egalitarianism were based on that "All men were created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights". It was the first skidding on the slope that finds us to today. Never before in history had western society slid in such a way as we have. Decline, decadence, weakness, yes… but never such a sickness of soul as the equality movements of today that despite us still being strong of mind and body leave us weak of will and spirit.
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>god puts tree in garden
>dont eat from the tree t. god
>they eat from the tree
>now i will punish every unborn human for what two individual humans did for some reason t. god
>also, for some reason the only way of undoing this is if i impregnate a Jewish woman and then she gives birth to my son (who is also me) and then my son (who is also me) grows up and then is nailed to a cross and dies and then comes back to life

hmm

on the one hand maybe god had his reasons for this ludicrously convoluted and unecessary plan

on the other hand

maybe it was invented by the followers of jesus christ in their desperation to believe that the man who they loved and respected did not die in vain

idk senpai which do you think is more plausible? :v)
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>>72037874
The redditor inside you kicking off?
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>>72043936
[cont 2]
The church as a western institution? Arguments on the absorption of western principle are by the churches own definition heresy second only to changing the canon itself:

>De Praescriptione Haereticorum:

>These are "the doctrines" of men and of demons produced for itching ears of the spirit of this world's wisdom: this the Lord called "foolishness," and "chose the foolish things of the world" to confound even philosophy itself. For (philosophy) it is which is the material of the world's wisdom, the rash interpreter of the nature and the dispensation of God. Indeed heresies are themselves instigated by philosophy.

>From all these, when the apostle would restrain us, he expressly names philosophy as that which he would have us be on our guard against. Writing to the Colossians, he says, "See that no one beguile you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men"

>What indeed has Athens to do with Jerusalem? What concord is there between the Academy and the Church? What between heretics and Christians? Our instruction comes from "the porch of Solomon," who had himself taught that "the Lord should be sought in simplicity of heart." Away with all attempts to produce a mottled Christianity of Stoic, Platonic, and dialectic composition! We want no curious disputation after possessing Christ Jesus, no inquisition after enjoying the gospel! With our faith, we desire no further belief. For this is our palmary faith, that there is nothing which we ought to believe besides.

And even if this heresy was undertaken, why do you need an 80% european, 20% semitic belief system? Why not just follow a 100% european belief system? As is pointed out in http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/07/why-christianity-cant-save-us/ the return is too low and the cost is too great.
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>>72044080
[cont 3]
For every positive of christianity I can show you the tradition of it being a european element or of having a european parallel. For every cancerously altruistic or egalitarian element of christianity there is no european parallel. So then the question becomes not "why not christianity?" but rather "WHY christianity?"
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>>72043936

>Never read about the Tower of Babel

We were split into different peoples for a reason my friend
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>>72043936
Asatru is a modern creation of Jews and it's based off of Kabbalah.
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took roughly 1 hour for the thread to be overrun by fedoras.
I think that's a new record.
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>>72042673
Codreanu had something to say about traitors that applies in this case as well.
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>>72043936
>if he was alive, he would change his views on Christianity quickly

he didn't like Christianity back than and preferred islam, but was an agnostic theist who just wanted a system with the Germanic people in power.

>>72043936
>Implying all men aren't equal in the face of god and deserve love from one another
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The JIDF are trying to derail this one hard.
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>>72042710
>And you have to face the fact that you are rejecting the heritage and traditions of your forefathers, who have been Christian for over a thousand years.
See >>72042269
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>>72043775

>Implying I believe Hitler is the supreme authority on everything.
>Implying you aren't a LARPing faggot.
Implying European Christians don't take philosophic ideals from their ancestors.
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>>72044230
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>>72044201
This thread was created by JIDF and its being derailed by ADOLF (Aryan Defense Online Force).

Asatru is a modern creation of Jews and its based off of Kabbalah.
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>>72037874
I'm not religious. I like Confucian philosophy.
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>>72044388
> catholic says that he's a true christian
...
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>>72044445
literally created by a fat old grandma
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>>72044445
>Jews
is Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef aka ''Jesus'' a Jew?
>inb4 he was this good kind of jew
>inb4 defuct khazar hypothesis
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>>72044603
this was before the schism, and both still call themselves catholic as Katholikos means universal
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>>72043936
>>72043991
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tldr
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>>72044778
isn't*
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>>72044778

>defunct

Hey Jude
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>>72039251

wrong religion
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>>72038433
I'm agnostic and I've considered converting to Catholicism, but I'm put off for a few reasons.

I can't force myself to believe in God. I don't particularly admire the history of the Church. Organised religion makes me wary. And modern Catholicism just seems weak and leftist.
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>>72044937
khazar theory debunked by the one David Duke
http://davidduke.com/rethinking-khazar-theory/
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>>72039014

kjv any other version is the works of the devil
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>>72044179
>preferred islam
Suuuureeee. He would have never wanted Islam to rule Germany or even be part of it.
He might have respected and personally kind of liked it because he shared some similliar views with them but thats it.
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>>72045194You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?[4]

Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [Islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing
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>>72045093
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>>72045194
>>72045374

"The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the Prophet Muhammad."
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>>72043991
Its almost like Genesis is allegorical.

I guess thatd really mess up ur strawman tho achmed
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I'm an agnostic but I have more respect for Christians than I do for most religions.
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>Muh dead kike on a stick
>doos vult
>pls cuck me while i turn the other cheek
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>>72045030
You might want to try the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland. It's neither weak nor leftist.
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>>72045374

Now France is Islam :^)
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>>72037874
No. I stopped being religious after I grew up. I may go back for my kids but honestly it didn't help me when I was young. I would like to learn white pagan religions not so much to do with vikings what not but varg style I suppose.
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>>72038232

>truth

That word, I doesnt mean what you think it means
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>>72038122
Are you for letting in refugees? Your master is.
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>>72045398
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/if-jesus-was-a-jew-why-are-we-catholic

he btfo the jews who rejected him with that quote, saying he was still their king even though they hated him
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Nazi Catholic reporting in...
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>>72045566
britton bringing the banter
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>>72045764
That doesn't mean he's not jew.
Self-hating jews was and are thing both in the past and now.
Tell me then sir, why should we worship a semite from the middle east?
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>>72045509
>In his books "Engaging the Powers" and "The Powers That Be," Wink argues that Jesus rejected two common ways of responding to injustice: violent resistance and passive acceptance. Instead, Jesus advocated a "third way," an assertive but non-violent form of protest.

>The key to understanding Wink's argument is rigorous attention to the social customs of the Jewish homeland in the first century and what these sayings would have meant in that context.

>To illustrate with the saying about turning the other cheek: it specifies that the person has been struck on the right cheek. How can you be struck on the right cheek? As Wink emphasizes, you have to act this out in order to get the point: you can be struck on the right cheek only by an overhand blow with the left hand, or with a backhand blow from the right hand. (Try it).

>But in that world, people did not use the left hand to strike people. It was reserved for "unseemly" uses. Thus, being struck on the right cheek meant that one had been backhanded with the right hand. Given the social customs of the day, a backhand blow was the way a superior hit an inferior, whereas one fought social equals with fists".
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>>72039251
You know that the fig tree was a symbol of the nation of Israel, right? Like how the bald eagle is a symbol of the United States? It was an illustration of God's coming judgement on Israel and their lack of fruit borne. http://www.gotquestions.org/curse-fig-tree.html
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>>72045985
>Tell me then sir, why should we worship a semite from the middle east?

Because he is the truth, the way, and the life
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>>72045985
Phew...Deism isnt on the list!
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>>72046027

If I had a tree I'd raised since it was just a little sapling and I went outside to water it and check on it, I would be pissed, regardless of what point someone was making when they murdered it. Even if they had the greatest point ever and redpilled all of humanity doing it, I don't give a shit. Don't fuck with my literally goddamned tree.
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I've been on 4chan since at least 2005 when I was 14, maybe 2004.

We were majority atheist. We were also far more left leaning; more accurately, we were moderates who poked fun at everyone and everything.

/pol/ is Christian conservative now, and it's why I rarely visit anymore.

I don't have the patience to explain why this has become toxic. You'll understand me or you won't.
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>>72041256
Deist and Atheist are virtually identical in modern day anyway.
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>>72037874
God literally told me that Christianity is right, so I am obligated to believe Jesus is Lord and Saviour of all mankind, who died for our sins and was resurrected and ascended to heaven.

I don't really like the Christian lifestyle but I really have no choice in the matter.
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>>72046706
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>>72046786
But it's 100% true.
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>>72046698

How?
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>>72046532
lol you are full of shit
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>>72041921
here is your (you)
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>worshipping an obscure sandnigger god
>not sticking to your european roots and being pagan
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>>72046532
You need to lurk more and take things less seriously.
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>>72046706

how did god told you that?
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>>72047226

Plenty of these people are serious, Anon.

>>72046909

Silence, kohai.
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>>72046706

God told me Christianity is unnecessary. Why should I believe what God told you over what he told me?
>inb4 some fag misreads my other post and thinks I'm atheist
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>>72047481
>Plenty of these people are serious, Anon.
Prove it.
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>>72047388
I prayed for God to point me towards the true faith, because I could feel myself being pulled towards God but I didn't know where to go next, then I opened my eyes and immediately saw a cross made of light on my bedroom wall.

Sure it may have been some coincidental trickery of light, or a hallucination, but considering it was the first time I'd ever prayed in my life (I was an atheist since birth beforehand) and I saw the cross literally as soon as I opened my eyes, and I never again saw it afterwards as if it were just something I never noticed before, I take it to have been a sign from God.
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>>72046698
Deism leaves open many possibilities that atheism blatantly denies
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>>72047679
>God told me Christianity is unnecessary

Why would that be?
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>>72047752

Statistical likelihood. Plenty of Anons aren't serious, too.
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>>72047679
Describe your experience friend
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>>72037874
LATIN MASS OR BUST

DEUS VULT

shout out to all my traditional catholic bros

i try and go to mass 2x a week and get in an eucharistic adoration session

I'm working on rosary each day in addition to morning and evening prayers
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>>72046383
It couldn't bear fruit. It was unable to perform its natural purpose. A fig-less fig tree is just a big weed. God gave man dominion over the land and the animals. Use it.
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>>72048358
Believing in God alone has at least half decent reasoning behind it. Adding a religion on top of that simple belief complicates and distorts the path to and relationship with God.
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>>72048487
Rosary every day makes you feel like youre floating
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>>72048410

Ah, thanks, but I must pass. I simply don't have the patience for paragraphs today. But I think Jesus would approve of you skipping him entirely as long as you humbly and honestly pursue God.
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>>72037874

Im Orthodox. Pravoslavie!
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>>72048601
It's not a matter of choice, and they are not that which can be made separate.
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I'm a failed catholic.
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>>72048704
Ive got a nice shrine set up in my room with a cross, pic of mary and michael the archangel

I'm trying to fight my inner degeneracy and become a righteous traditional catholic man

Christ is the final redpill

At first it seems so blue but the deeper you go the more you realize that Christ is the way the truth and the light

Orthodox are bros but most modernist Catholics and Protestants are pretty weak…they need our help escaping from the cultural marxism that has snuck into the church
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>>72048900

My prayers to God alone have lead me to believe otherwise. Your religion is toxic to me. However, my prayer has also lead me think that it's best to leave you be than convince you to follow my path.
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>>72037874
No, Christfags have just invaded and think they own the board now. 4chan has always been predominantly atheist/libertarian and that hasn't changed. On /pol/ it's about 50% atheist and agnostic with the other half being of varying religions. Christcucks/stormfags settled in during the last election cycle when they were shilling for Romney lmao.

Also keep in mind that threads like these are not a representative sample of /pol/ and attracts mostly Christians who want to shill.
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>>72049054
Try to get back to being a practicing Catholic

Our life is about perfecting ourselves

Don't give up on yourself and the opportunity God gave you to be great
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>>72038704
Gods don't need to follow their own rules.

But I agree that was kind of fucked up, what the hell Jesus?
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>>72049262

Thank you.
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>>72049226
You're not following a path, you are talking nonsense. How can it be that God who gave His Son to the world then rebukes this same deed? Absolute piffle.
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>>72049262
/pol/ is for

-Nazis
-Christians
-Fascists
-Libertarians
-Republicans
-Neo-Reacitonary types

But as /pol/ grows in age and matures /pol/ is shifting from libertarianism and natsoc to embrace Christ

Libertarian ideology sounds nice but you are neglecting all social and cultural problems

A society does not exist on just economic issues alone
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>>72049198
Im with you. I have an area like that myself. I have so much trouble with my vices. Actually not being a degenerate is quite the task. I agree, i almost felt like a fool at first but after just a few sessions of true meditation one begins to see the truth. I recently started praying in Latin and less in english and it feels like a better fit.

Bless you on your journey brother :)
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>>72049262
>be fedora neckbeard
>unironically post
>threads like these attracts mostly Christians

I swear atheists get stupider every year.
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>>72037874
Even if you're not a Christain in the literal sense you should be a christain traditionally. Its better to live in a christain nation than to live in what we are transitioning to- a degenerate country void of decency.
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>>72049649
Same to you bro

Im tired of being dominated by my passions and essentially being no better than an animal
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>>72049539
No it isn't maturing, the majority culture is being replaced by stormfront. /pol/ is for politics 4chan isn't meant to be a hugbox.
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>>72039666
Jesus loves us sinners, anon. By his grace alone we are saved.
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>>72037874
Atheist here. I call myself agnostic to keep people from confusing me with fedora-tipping anti-theists. I've always had a profound interest in religion though; i like studying religions and reading their mythologies, practices, and beliefs (I used to be really into Greek mythology, but i grew out of it as i realized how gay it was) . I never pass up the chance to talk to someone about his/her religion. It's just really cool to me, i don't believe in any of it though. The stories are pretty interesting and they always have good life lessons/meanings. My current area of focus is the older, polytheistic Jewish mythology, especially uncovering the elder gods mentioned as demons in the bible.
pic semi-related.
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>>72049335
I didn't give up on myself. I just gave up on catholicism.

I'm a right-winger, btw, not some lefty commie.
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>>72040311
Luther was blessed with the Holy Spirit indeed.
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>>72039476
But why!? Why the literal hell did he get himself killed as a sacrifice to himself? Is there some god above god who requested the sacrifice? Is god sacrificing himself for HIS sins?
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>>72049907
>I call myself agnostic to keep people from confusing me with fedora-tipping anti-theists.
Grow a spine faggot.
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>>72049991
Why would you give up the Catholic Church?

You were created by God and fulfill your highest purpose in life by loving him

By removing Christ and his church from your life you are failing yourself in this life and the next
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>>72037874
crusaders removed kebab through the power of our lord
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>Jesus' last words

>MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

>LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

>JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

So, Christfags? Can you even explain this? Which was it?
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>>72050106
Most people don't know the difference. Anyway, it's not something i just go around talking about (only assholes do that).
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>>72050489
Why don't you post the original Hebrew or Aramaic?
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26 As the soldiers led him away, they seized Simon from Cyrene, who was on his way in from the country, and put the cross on him and made him carry it behind Jesus. 27 A large number of people followed him, including women who mourned and wailed for him. 28 Jesus turned and said to them, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children. 29 For the time will come when you will say, ‘Blessed are the childless women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!’ 30 Then

“‘they will say to the mountains, “Fall on us!”
and to the hills, “Cover us!”’
31 For if people do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?”

32 Two other men, both criminals, were also led out with him to be executed. 33 When they came to the place called the Skull, they crucified him there, along with the criminals—one on his right, the other on his left. 34 Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
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>>72050489
Mythology
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>>72037874
it's a meme
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>>72041921
Khazar theory is correct, but that comes later. Even at the time of Christ, most of the Jews were Edomites, descended from Esau, not of the tribe of Judah. Josephus confirms that much, and that the ten “lost" tribes lived east of the Euphrates, and were beyond reckoning in number, ie the Parthians and Scythians, who later migrated into Europe. Jesus was a Judahite from Galilee, not a Judean, and was indeed the Christ, the fullness of God incarnate in the flesh of the root David.

Faith in Jesus Christ alone saves us, but for those like myself, obstinate in my own perceived intelligence, knowing the true history has only edified what I've known by faith.
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>>72050489

What happened was Jesus quoted psalm 22 (a song) then died.

easy peezy
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>>72037874
4/pol/ started getting religious after the exodus guys came back along with the paris attack bandwagoners. 8ch's /christian/ also didn't help. Still, there's nothing wrong with being culturally but not religiously christian.
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>>72050489
Same thing.

Jesus was on the cross, recited Psalms because he was on the cross.
It is finished, his last words. It -- the mission -- is finished. Now the old law has been removed.

Differences are simple: people remembering different parts according to where they were. The fact they're different indicates that they didn't make it up.

In order, I think: Matt, Luke, and then John.
John may have been closer because he recorded this part whereas the others didn't.

There's a chance that they mistook him saying things and passing out for him potentially dying, as well.
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>>72051136
cool opinion.. do you like fish dicks?
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>>72051191
Good stuff, you came up with a better explanation then I could of!
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Been noticing a bunch of Christ-humping on /pol/ lately too, when you ask them why they just say how dorky atheists are. But can they really be this stupid? Or is this just becoming another arm of the GOP?
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>>72050489
>Jesus recites psalms on the Cross
>CHRISTIANS BFTO

You cant make this up
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>>72037874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-J2kuSCLvE#t=02m58s
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>>72037874
I was once a fedora tipper (brought up and raised christian), but most atheists are marxists and Islam is not compatible with western ideals.

I will probably take my children to church. I still believe in seperation of church and state.
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>>72051283
Thanks, anon. We had a get-together at the church a few years ago where something similar cropped up. I didn't word it as well as I could've, but eh.
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Why do crosskikes always go after atheists an not every other religion? According to them, they're just as wrong.
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>>72051490

>psalms

you got a point or what?
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>>72051774
You weren't a fedora then because you were an atheist you were an atheist because you are a fedora. For that matter you are still fedora just under a different hat. A good section of christcucks on /pol/ are the same way, still just as cringy but they think they're accepted now.
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>>72044977
>like a a pregnant she-camel
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>>72051774
Ever thought about worshiping a different god?
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The reason so many of /pol/ are Christian is because right-wingers are hardcore bible thumpers. Same reason they believe climate change is a hoax. They hate the left so much that they will reject anything they believe even if it goes against all common sense. And yes I realise that many on the left are Christian too, but Athiesm is much more widely accepted than on the right.
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>>72051999

chekd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLry6Cn_D4
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>>72043991
I think it just let God know that if we don't work, we start getting bored and fucking with shit we shouldn't fuck with


He said

Hey little niggers here's EBEYTHING, don't touch my weed stash though


So now he's like, well shit, maybe if they stayed busy with their own survival they won't be getting into my stash, it has to be this way for their own good. I'll reward their hard work so that way they don't get pissed
Work is our hamster wheel

It's not a curse, you're just a neck beard NEET
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>>72052388
Climate change is to Geo Engerineering just like UFO's are to secret spy planes
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>>72052307
You obviously miss one of the main points of Christianity which is the communion with fellow people and building up your part of the society in good spirit. It can be argued that living in a wood, worshiping the god of thunder, might bring you the same personal satisfaction as a prayer to the Christian, but you sure shit ain't doing anything useful for your neighbors and civilization as whole.
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>>72037874
There was a poll a while back. Most are atheist, agnostic, christian in that order
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>>72037874
Asking people about Christianity draws out the Christians, who make arrogant claims like "/pol/ is and has always been a Christian board" and shit like that. I think it's possible that Christians constitute a vocal minority, but I wouldn't bet money on it. I think there are a lot of people who see Christianity as an integral part of Western identity and therefore regard it as inherent to the cultural struggle that most of us believe in.

I'm indifferent to Christianity and wouldn't try to coerce people out of belief in Christ. The majority of Christians ITT have expressed support for a separation of Church and state within society, which is fine with me.
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I dunno if I am an athiest, maybe I just have questions.

From what we know of how big the universe is, the God of it all sends his only Son down here and let's a bunch of Jews nail Him to a tree and torture Him?

And so much of The Bible is wacky and contradictory...

I have always believed there must be a "God" out there, I mean, look at the immense power everywhere, so why not a "God"? A super massive black hole could contain the powers we attribute to a "God" but to think a being like that would even waste time with us is so massively arrogant.
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>>72053091
I do suspect atheists constitute a silent majority here, but don't actively profess their atheism because of the "fedora" meme. The difference between left-wing atheists and right-wing atheists is that left-wing atheists construct an "in-group" identity out of their atheism, whereas right-wing atheists are simply not religious and are indifferent to religion. I just don't believe in god for my own personal reasons. I have no need to convince you of how smart that supposedly makes me.
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19 “When you besiege a city a long time, to make war against it in order to capture it, you shall not destroy its trees by swinging an axe against them; for you may eat from them, and you shall not cut them down. For is the tree of the field a man, that it should be besieged by you? 20 Only the trees which you know are not fruit trees you shall destroy and cut down, that you may construct siegeworks against the city that is making war with you until it falls.
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>>72037874
Praise kek agnostic here and Christianity is the ultimate form of cuckoldry. Nothing wrong with believing in God though but your an idiot if you think the bible isn't mostly fiction.
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Why? Because a Fig blossoms on the inside.. It wasn't a story about Figs it was a story about whats happening on the inside, if there is no blossom on the inside there is no life

Why does it have nothing but leaves, its a parable about people, they have nothing blossoming on the inside, but everything to show on the outside (leaves) which bear no fruit

What else do Leaves do? They cast a shade, meaning: They cast one in darkness, blocking out the light
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>>72045992

retarded revisionist "interpretation" of the passage, obviously and immediately BTFO by the very next lines - Jesus encouraging you to give your cloak to a man if he tries to steal your coat.
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Extending the Parable, The Fig Tree, is more likely a Metaphor for the organized religions such as Phariseeism and Christianity that bear no fruit, and do nothing for people on the inside other than producing leaves..

What did Jesus say to it, "Let you bear no fruit ever again".. A curse to Organized Religion

What else did he say, "A good tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruits"

Remember those words when u look upon and consider the Dominant religions (trees) on this earth
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>>72037874
That always pissed me off too.

>Fig isn't fruiting
>Throw tantrum and kill it
Fuck you, jews.
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>>72039310
High Sparrow an evil shit. A SHIT.
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Atheist here.

Fuck >>>/christ/ fags!
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>>72038183
Bluepills are redpills asdgfgdhhfdjhdz
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>>72037874
I take the same stance as Hitler on the matter. I am not christian, but I know it is one of the most important things to our race and our history.
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>>72042629
Because Christianity is dead here. Most people that still call themselves Christian don't practice any of the important tenets of the faith.
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>>72041921
Jesus was ethnically Levantine, a group historically (and still are), hated by the Jews.
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11 I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? May it never be! But by their transgression salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous. 12 Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their fulfillment be! 13 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too.

17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
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>>72043936
So what you're saying is, because we gave freedom to atheists they fucked everything up? Got it. Next time we'll make sure to purge your kind.
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>>72050102
Come on man it's the most quoted verse in the Bible. "For God SO LOVED the world..."

I'm not sure how this is hard to understand.
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Honestly it surprises me that these divide and conquer threads still get a reaction out of everyone. You atheists claiming to be "redpilled" sure as hell don't act like it in public, and that's not to say that all forms of (modern) Christianity don't have their fair share of faults, too. All of it is irrelevant, anyway. We are of the same race, and that should be enough to unify us all to topple the common enemy.
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>>72042042
Holy shit I never knew this but it makes perfect sense now that I've read it. Christcuckery is such a fucking white trash religion.

>>72042269
Inevitable.

Well done, Bulgaria. I've never seen most of these.

>>72043593
May. Day.

>>72043715
>le sky(insert mystical being here)
Lol

>>72044140
>Jews misreport Entamananki
>Euros believe the jewish reports instead of history

>Jews misreport Ancient Egypt
>Euros believe the jewish reports instead of history

>Jews misreport Roman history
>Euros believe the jewish reports instead of history

Christianity is fucking religious Stockholm Syndrome.

>>72044080
>And even if this heresy was undertaken, why do you need an 80% european, 20% semitic belief system? Why not just follow a 100% european belief system? As is pointed out in http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/07/why-christianity-cant-save-us/ the return is too low and the cost is too great.
Because they literally can't even. As Nietzsche said, nobody converts to christcuckery, you have to be morbid enough for it. Weak minds and poor constitutions have always been the majority. They just used to be fucking ignored. Christianity changed all that and brought it's fucking cancerous rule by majority instead of rule by competence bullshit into the West and it died because of it.

>>72044157
>fedora
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>>72037874
Cultural Christian.
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>>72037874
Yes.
/r/atheism is that way ----->
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>>72044937
>It's okay if he's a "real" jew
>People hate jews for their hair and eye color, not their beliefs so muh Khazaria means everything's kosh - uh fine goy - I mean guy!
FUCKING. KILL. YOURSELF.

>>72045093
>All jews hate each other, therefore my form of judaism is the right one!
So I guess Islam is the one true religion because they hate you, right?

>>72046088
Cuck-a-doodle-doo!

>>72050489
You should mention the part how Judas dies in two completely different ways, then jews try to say it was both, when it clearly doesn't say that.
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>>72057543
>Christopher Hitchens
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I believe religion is important and useful to bring morals and social cohesion, and maintain traditions.
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>>72057667
Oh look,the pentacostals are up late!
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I am Christian and I find the biggest issue is that the church has not learned how to communicate properly with intelligent people. Saying things like 'have faith and you will be saved' doesn't have much effect these days. Religious leaders need to start better explaining the meaning behind all the commonly spouted christian sayings, show the question instead of just the answer.

Christianity is also for everyone, even dim witted people. Sure it might be a little embarrassing being associated with those people but stupidity is not grounds to be dammed.
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>>72053004
Absolutely nobody missed the part about christcuckery being a pleb religion whose only focus is its community of unwashed masses. Trust us. That's precisely the problem.

>but you sure shit ain't doing anything useful for your neighbors and civilization as whole.
>Only crosskikes have every engaged in community
This is literally your level of ignorance regarding world religions, isn't it? Astounding.

>>72055499
Hell most /pol/ "christians" don't even have christians morals, which isn't saying much. They think they can slut around, do drugs and generally misbehave and then resort to being a member of a shrinking majority to suck legitimacy off of. Then they wonder why people say they're apostate.

>>72056487
*Etemenanki
Holy shit I butchered that spelling.

>>72056699
The absolutely worst kind. Hell even the bible says that.

>>72057667
>hat

>>72057788
If there's a hell, that man surely burns in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDIa9fYlYb0
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>>72057543
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>>72059645
>Dawkins is supposed to be bad
>Muh crusades
Try harder, nigger. Fail better.
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Non denominational Christian here
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>>72037874
Either believe in jesus or accept that you're a fedora rebel faggot.
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>>72059966

>no mention of the massacre of the latins

top kek
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>>72058420
Well the Church is people with all their flaws...

Don't know your denomination but if you're Orthodox (judging by the icon) there are more and more very good teachers in English


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GHE6oqCc_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeEHaQjgpOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faQwgodvqdA
https://www.youtube.com/user/evanorth1/videos
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>>72045736
Church of England has done what exactly to defend Christianity and the West? Or any of the other equally pathetic protestant churches. Point is the churches are cucked because like all things in this fucked nightmare that is the West WE TOLERATE IT.
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>>72060323
Either abandon jewish religion or accept that you're a jew. There is no third option.
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>>72037874

Atheist here.

Christ-fags should get off my board and go back to normie-book.

You faggots keep cucking Western Civilization.

Plus Catholics are literal nigger/muslim lovers and homosexuals.
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>>72059966
the bottom panel is Catholics, not Christians. Also, the vikings stopped pillaging and raiding because they converted to Christianity. West Europe is cucked now because they abandoned Christianity long ago
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>>72059966
You know that no one in philosophy (theist or atheist) takes Dawkins seriously, right?
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>>72042042
>You need to bathe

Yeah don't forget your processed sugary foods and your daily dose of ritilin and Prozac too.
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>>72038235

Christianity is fucking degenerate and cucked.

That said obviously I support the Anglican-Church and will put a Catholic retard ahead of any branch of any other religion.

Maybe.

They need to sort this pope out.
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>>72060860

You know no one takes philosophy or theology seriously anymore outside of Mud-Skins, right?
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>>72042859
Then why? Associate at all? One of the ways of taking down European cohesiveness was to undermined Christ. And atheists bought in.
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>>72060740
Sure. All this egalitarianism and race mixing is because people ABANDONED christianity. Because you know, old European religions were all about jews and turning the other cheek.
>Being this delusional so you don't have to ever have an uncomfortable thought
Sickening. You don't deserve to call yourself White.
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>>72060876
The leaders are.
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>>72059645
GK Chesterton is the most based
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>>72041642
Exactly. I go to church every Sunday. I assume there is a fair amount of atheists on /pol/, considering the nature of many things posted, but the majority of us are Christian
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>>72061246
The Kingdom of Heaven is in us. It is not over there.
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catholicism is a nonwhite religion and if you worship the beaner pope you are a cuck
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>>72060654
But were not jews. Jews hate Christians. And atheists are doing the work for jews or Marxists or whatever. And that is undermining the West.
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>>72058711
So then why did you use graphics of him? Your opinion would probably be better respected if you didn't post memes that look like they came from the cheezburger network in 2007.
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I was born to a Buddhist family but agnostic. Christian culture is pretty cool. I'd love to be with a Christian girl and learn more about Christianity and visit Cathedrals etc, but I doubt I'd ever believe in the existence of a Sky-Daddy.
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>>72061246

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus'%E2%80%93Byzantine_War_%28941%29

Pagan cucks fought for there kike masters in the past :^)

>The Khazar Correspondence reveals that the campaign was instigated by the Khazars, who wished revenge on the Byzantines after the persecutions of the Jews undertaken by Emperor Romanus I Lecapenus.
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>>72059966
>this much cherrypicking

So your preferable alternative is the entire South of Europe being a Moorish caliphate? Whether you're religious or not, the crusades were most definitely for the better.
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>>72061487
You really don't understand the Christian God. The Christian God is three persons in one being. This being is the creator of the universe.
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>>72061431
>Worship literally the tribal god of the jews
>2/3 of your holy book is literally the jewish bible
>Own religion says repeatedly that jews are superior
Cucked as fuck.

>Jews hate Christians
We already covered this, you braindead faggot. Just because Sunni hate Shi'a doesn't mean Sunni Islam is the one true religion. Christ, what a faggot.

>>72061437
I never said he was wrong factually. He was just a libertine asshole.

>>72061595
And you fight for them now. Hurr.

>Muh Khazar!
Nobody gives a shit. Literally nobody cares what kind of afro a kike has. Kikes are hated for their beliefs and policies, not red hair, you fucking imbecile. If the kikes take over Japan people aren't going to hate them because they intermarry with japs, moron. They'll still be hated for the same reason as always - they're assholes.

>>72061730
>Newjews dindu nuffin!

>>72061806
Speak for yourself. Your god, who is actually the jews' god is founded on a lie and your religion is not only founded on THAT lie, but also a lie of its own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79Lmmy2jfeo

The god you think is so surpreme was never anything but a con job.
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>2016
>not realizing the Biblical end times have already begun as written in Book of Revelations.

When the messiah has returned you will regret not asking him to forgive your transgressions.
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