Tomorrow the NHS will be closed as the BMA call a general strike, there will be no operations carried out from 8am - 5pm.
People will die.
Can someone explain the new contract to me that they are protesting?
Do you believe Jeremy Hunt should keep his iron resolve or resign?
Just a junior doctor strike not a senior doctor strike
The hospitals will still be open
The new contract forces them to work more unfavourable hours at an overall lower net income.
>>72021434
Which side are you on boyo
>>72021532
I am not a junior doctor but if government can ass ram doctors then they will be able to do the same to other health professions.
>what leftists think needs to be done to fix the NHS
>t-tax the rich
>m-more strikes
>what actually needs to be done
>kick all the shitskins out clogging up the system, and prevent foreigners practising health tourism
The left is broken, when the fuck is rational right wing logic going to come back
We need a social insurance system like Singapore or Switzerland. State health care doesn't work, and leads to situations like this.
>>72021261
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814
Thread theme
>>72021668
One day mate one day
>>72021668
Yup, if you haven't been paying taxes into this country for a good number of years then fuck off to BUPA
>>72021841
To be honest it's a bit shit that if you decide to BUPA you are still paying for the NHS
Really the taxes you pay should be only on the services you actually use, and if you decide on an alternative you should get a refund
>>72021261
Anyone got a copy of the contract?
>>72022069
>if you decide to BUPA you are still paying for the NHS
In all honesty I see very little wrong with this. Despite the fact I want to go on BUPA when i'm earning a little more. Hard-working people rely on the NHS and it needs all the funding it can get.
>>72021668
Agreed. no NI number no treatment for starters.
Dr's always say "But we can't turn anyone away if they are seriously ill."
How to get round this aspect?
>>72022248
Back when we weren't filled with so many wasters and foreign scum I'd agree with you
Regular hard workers are better off going private anyway because the NHS keeps you waiting in pain and suffering for months and months. I was in the system for 3 years with a severe case of IBS which the NHS didn't even solve, only when I went private was the issue diagnosed
>>72022461
>"But we can't turn anyone away if they are seriously ill and British."
That's how, doctors are here to look after our own
Your health service is full niggers from africa and shitskins. They know nothing and sometimes even worse - they know shit.
How anyone can allow that to happen is beyond me.
>>72022593
Yeah good point.
I knew a guy from Algeria, his mother was seriously ill so he flew her over here to die, care of the NHS.
Once she was here they were forced to treat her at British taxpayers expense.
This goes on all the time.
>>72022461
As a med student who has seen A&E wards, it's impractical as fuck to try and get everybody's papers before treating them for severe, life threatening injuries. Imagine your gran died because we were too busy rifling through her wallet to work out if she really was a UK citizen.
That being said, some trusts already deny people life preserving surgery for multitudes of reasons such as being smokers, seems stupid that a smoker who has paid into the NHS their whole life gets shafted whereas a random health tourist can get all the treatment they need without paying a penny
>>72021261
>People will die.
Doctors kill people all the time mate.
Nothing new about this.
If a strike thins thins the herd a little, so be it.
If you were so sick that you die in a single day, your chances weren't very good anyway.
Let them have their strike.
If you were facing what was effectively a pay cut, wouldn't you want the right to strike?
>>72022461
Don't pay THEM for any treatment they do for people who can't pay. Make it all pro-bono on their part, unable to be used even as a charitable tax writeoff, and watch how quick most will switch their tune.
>>72023002
>As a med student who has seen A&E wards, it's impractical as fuck to try and get everybody's papers before treating them for severe, life threatening injuries. Imagine your gran died because we were too busy rifling through her wallet to work out if she really was a UK citizen.
This the problem, it lets people take the piss out of our NHS.
short of tattooing all citizens with a number a la Nazi style what can we do about it?
>>72021261
If only all doctors were kind, caring, friendly individuals that went the extra mile like this chap
>>72021261
This has little to do with Junior Drs. It is more about the Conservative Plan to privatise the NHS and for Jeremy Hunt to have a cushy job in some future Private Healthcare company for sealing the deal. Screw the poor when you can make £££
>>72021727
>social insurance
ahahahahaha
The local Medi-X plans don't cover enough by themselves and you need a separate policy to protect yourselves.
>>72023843
What's all this Tories privatising the NHS meme.
Bullshit labour nonsense right?
>>72022461
>>72021668
Charge people who can't give a NI number post-treatment in emergencies
>>72021261
>people will die
Sensationalist twaddle. Gr8 b8 m8 10/10
100% of the people that will die will probably have drank water in the past 24hrs too.
>>72021261
They should just quit and walk away if they're not happy with the terms of their contracts, one already has....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDlbU7uAnL8
>>72024715
Labour did more to privatise it with disastrous PFIs than the tories have.
>>72023843
Fuck off
>>72024908
JUST WALK AWAY NIGGA! HAHAHAHA!
>>72024988
You are unworthy of dubs.
>>72021668
Well there's national conservatism growing in this country.
Do you know what that is?
>>72024908
And they can all come to the good ol' US of A where we actually pay our doctors.
>>72021261
The new contract forces Doctors to work longer hours removing pay for them. This 11% pay rise the government doesn't cover the lose of income Doctors will face because government is removing the banding payments. Getting paid extra to work weekend and nights. Banding also meant that work for say A&E paid more than weekend work for a skin doctor.
But the government wants to remove that. Which means no matter what area of medicine you work in because some areas are 9-5 medicine that will be paid the same as a A&E doctor.
The new contract also removes fines hospital face for making doctors work over their allowed hours. Hands up who wants their doctor working 100 hours weeks. As most junior doctors already work close to 80 hour weeks, with most of that unpaid work like everyone in the NHS.
The government are also removing the support for career breaks which every doctor takes to under take research which doctor are expected to do.
The Tories are fucking the NHS by the back door and blaming it on greedy Doctors. When in fact the BMA rejected the government 11% pay rise and said they don't want it
lol @ singlepayer
smokers, nonsmokers, fit, unfit, legal, illegal, all lumped into one
collectivism is great guys feelthebern
>>72027010
Great time to be a newly qualified nurse though. I'm starting at a private London hospital on 31k.
Did anyone else watch Louis Theroux's documentary last night on alcoholics? All but one of the people interviewed were foreign and they kept going back to hospital time and time again. Why don't we tell them to get fucked? How many millions are wasted on treating these degenerates?
>>72027515
Too much. I made an interesting observation about London homeless the other day; around the city you will mainly see homeless white males because foreigners and women are always given priority with shelters and charities.
I'm a nurse working in the U.S.
I weep for your NHS. Without any kind of border controls the NHS is just an avenue for any foreigner to put his hand in your pocket.
Ill be a junior doctor in about 4 months AMA
>>72027815
Exactly. I was discussing in a politics of health module with my class a few weeks back and we all agreed that a socialist healthcare model can only work in a closed system.
>>72027800
All I see around London are homeless Syrians
>>72027913
When will you be shitposting from Australia?
>>72021261
The truth is the NHS is dying. Everyone wants to pretend otherwise but the sacred cow is definitely on its last legs.
Both sides are wrong.
>>72028246
probably never, Im happy with staying in the UK. Sure hours will be tough and pay, but theres not much else happening in my life atm so i dont really care
>>72021649
They are, it's just that things like the pharmacy cuts are underreported
>giving in to union demands
>ever
What fucking board am I on again? You can't show any sign of weakness with the unions because they will NOT stop, they will just keep on demanding more and more absurd shit.
>>72028490
Apart from the union are right this time
>>72024883
This is the sensible answer. Doesn't cause delays in getting people their service, doesn't allow people to screw the system.
We won't be able to implement this because we'd have millions of leftie imbeciles screaming 'thass raycissssst' as soon as we did.
When are they going to do a dentists' strike. I want a lie in tomorrow.
>>72021261
NHS? is this a union or something? that would explain this racket-like mentality
lets get a few things straight
1) the doctors are going on strike for pay/conditions not because of "muh patient safety". and thats fine, they are entitled to
2) Hunt is not proposing substantial NHS reform, so opposition to socialised healthcare is not a reason to support Hunt
3) junior doctors are often irritating self important cucks, but i trust them more than Jeremy Hunt who is mentally retarded
4) a&e will be covered by other drs anyway so if you get shanked by an angry muslim you wont die, probably
5) if you are butthurt then why not go private, oh right, ur a cheapskate just like everyone else
6) all this is irrelevant in the long run since the NHS will not withstand an ageing population, sky high net migration and increasing demand, it is already financially fucked and will collapse under its own retardation within 50yrs
The worrying thing is how FUCKED the NHS is right now. I am a junior doctor. At my hospital, the surgical wards are covered by 4 doctors overnight - a registrar (top dog at night, does emergency operations), a senior house officer for admissions (sees anyone in A&E with surgical problems after they have been triaged), another SHO for vascular, cardiothoracics, ENT and urology inpatients, and a house officer for general surgery inpatients(in case any of them become more unwell through the night). Each of those jobs is 12 and a half non stop hours where you are literally lucky to have time to piss. There are meant to be 12 house officers. We have 8. That means 1/3 of all night shifts are not covered, and everyone on normal working days does the job of one and a third people. If no locum turns up, the work for that person gets shared amongst those who are left. We didn't have an admissions SHO every night last week. One of my colleagues did a 24 hour shift to cover it (he was on admissions 8am to 8pm and stayed on till 8am the next day) and then had to go and sleep, leaving us a man down for routine work the next day.
This is a repeating pattern everywhere in the country. I get (no exaggeration) 15+ emails a day with vacant shifts available to be filled. If every training post in the country was filled, there would be no vacant shifts. Training posts are empty because it's impossible to live a life where 9-5 means 8-7 every day because there is too much work to do. The new contract doesn't even improve weekend cover - it just makes it cheaper to provide.
>>72028490
>yes just trust the government instead lol the government never makes absurd demands :^)
>>72021261
Don't get sick Tuesday nor Wednesday, gentlemen.
My mum is really ill she's on her way out and she knows it, but I often need a doctor to come and visit her house. Maybe twice or three times per week. She's got another month or two left. But I know when the exit sign is lit up. District nurse comes most days and a female carer helps me with more intimate responsibilities. (washing, toilet etc). I've done all the legal stuff with mum's solicitor. My sister lives in New Zealand and I'm a single dad. So it's tough.
I nursed my dad, my grandmother and grandad to the last days. And my wife died suddenly died in 2012 from a heart attack. We had a takeaway the night before and I got up at 6am for work. She was asleep and snoring softly. An hour later my daughter is fucking frantic. "Dad, mum's dead." On my mobile, screaming. My daughter was getting ready for school. What a fucking nightmare. I'm ex- Army and have seen shitty things. Death and worse. It's different with close family in a peaceful familiar place.
Doctors going on strike is a shit move. But they need new contracts. People WILL die or be left in pain and suffering because of this. But the bastard cunt government want to milk the junior doctors dry. The politicians all have private healthcare so fuck the plebs. FUCKING HELL.
It's a fucking horrible situation for everyone. And it makes me sad and mad. I don't blame the junior doctors, but they really shouldn't strike. The government are the real cunts in this. Here's a link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/25/junior-doctors-strike-what-do-i-do-if-i-get-ill/
I have fought my country, nursed my closest family members to the end of their lives. Dad, grandparents, and now my mum. I have lost my wife. I do the very best for my 17 year old daughter and my friends. And I never withdrew nor will ever withdraw my efforts because of tough conditions. And nor will I complain. Life can be tough. But also beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaN10SdmKpM
HUNT BTFO
it'll be like 1963 again, when even Enoch Powell (then Health Minister) was asking for immigrants to fill NHS jobs.
>>72029321
Can't they just raise taxes and hire a few more docs? I don't mind kicking in a few extra bucks if it will help.
>>72029443
Fuck off cointelpro
>PAY YOUR DOCTORS SHIT WAGES AND REMOVE INCENTIVE
>DOCTORS WILL WORK HARD LONG HOURS AND BE VERY SKILLED
PICK 1
PLS PAJEET
HAVE FUN HAVING THIRD WORD DOCTORS EVERYWHERE
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA
PAJEET AND MUHAMMAD WILL BE OPERATING ON YOU TODAY
>>72022461
>How to get round this aspect?
Simples, just bill their government if the brown people cant pay.
Their government ignores the bill?
Simples, just add interest at some extortionate rate (say, 100% per day) and deduct the amount from the foreign aid we give to that country, until the foreign gibs me dat is zero.
The other side will break sooner than we will.
>>72029570
Well, there is already a recruitment hole, especially in some specialties like emergency medicine and in some areas of the country, especially up north. We are short of GPs and other doctors, this is shown by doctors graduating from medical schools abroad making up ~30% of each years intake of new doctors registering with the GMC.
Fundamentally we are simply not graduating enough medical students to provide the services we need. And the costs to the government/local trusts to increase medical school spaces/open new medical schools is simply something we don't have given the starvation of the health budget as it is.
So I imagine we'll keep on recruiting doctors, particularly from the EU, since people do want to come and work and live in the UK, and our home grown talents will leave, and the hole will grow bigger to the point where putting a plaster on it will not be possible by short term measures.
Doing a BMS degree atm, think I'm going to go private rather than NHS after I graduate if this shit keeps up.
>THE NHS IS SO GREAT
WEW LAD
W
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W
L
A
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SO GREAT
WHAT A GREAT SYSTEM
WAIT FOR A GOV AGENT TO TELL ME WHEN I CAN SEE PAJEET OR MUHAMMAD
PLS PAJEET WASH YOUR HANDS
NO MUHAMMAD WHY ARE YOU TOUCHING MY CHILD
MUHAMMAD PLS NO YOU DONT NEED A PRIVATE EXAM WITH MY YOUNG CHILD
EUROPE SO FUCKED
LELE
BYE BYE KEKUROPE
If anyone needs medical care during the strikes this week, please attend hospital: the striking junior doctors will be covered by consultant doctors, who are more than capable of handling the strain. (consultant = most senior)
Our Secretary of State is quick to point out that patients will come to harm, but forgets to offer reassurance to those who require urgent treatment that the hospitals will continue to be safely staffed.
>>72027010
Jesus christ UK get your shit together. Not that we're not getting fucked her with medicare paying 5 cents on the dollar but that sounds ridiculous. What is malpractice insurance like?
>>72029722
What's BMS?
>>72029791
do you want some lucozade?
>>72029722
>this is how the nhs dies
Not because of lack of funding but because of lack of trained and motivated staff.
>>72030157
The NHS can either reform or it will certainly die.
I know all about it, it cant continue very much longer, I give it 10 years.
>>72029747
>cherrypicking this hard
W E W
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L A D
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>>72021434
>The new contract forces them to work more unfavourable hours at an overall lower net income.
SEE SOCIAL MEDICINE WORKS!
>>72029505
oh god, you're not serious are you? How many people are gonna get killed cause Dr.Al-AmidBinwashalabingting didn't wash his hands?
>>72029501
shut up fuck tard. We still got it bad cause of Obama care
![yh2ECn2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/8TkxiS0.png "yh2ECn2[1].png")
>>72030341
>Look! This bucket with a hole in it doesn't work!
Son, you are a flaming retard.
>>72021261
le morality man weighs in:
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2016/04/the-strike-is-like-a-bees-sting-a-good-threat-but-a-poor-weapon.html
The metaphor is apt - with a strike being a bee sting, it'll cause damage to the larger organism but ultimately you just shat your guts out stinging it.
None of this is going to fix the chronic underfunding that has crippled the NHS since Gordon Brown ran up the national debt to a ridiculous percentage of GDP with PFI. The NHS is going to be whittled away to emergency care plus childrens' hospitals only, or we'll go bankrupt.
>>72029791
DO YOU WANT SOME LUCOZADE?
Gentlemen, introducing the new NHS bot-209. This new technology will revolutionise the NHS in more ways than one. We will be deploying these throughout the country by next week to ensure that everybody has sufficient papers before their health treatment needs are met.
Step 1: Intentionally under-fund the NHS, transforming surplus creating hospitals into debt ladden hospitals 'un-able to manage themselves'.
Step 2: Divide the workforce, for example a bad new contract for some staff.
Step 3: Push hospitals into crisis and paint staff in a negative light to gather public support.
Step 4: Effectively degrad personal morale to initiate highly skilled migration out of the NHS to value appreciating organisations (Private Practice and Overseas health services) with aim for a critical mass of vacant positions.
Step 5: Portray the NHS as failed and 'not a fit for modern society'.
Step 6: Sell easily saleable/profitable hospitals to private management companies.
Step 7:Split the NHS emergency and elective services and allow private companies e.g. ABC Healthcare sell priority to healthcare for a price (Need a operation? Pay or have insurance to get operation straight away and not wait 12 months until it's an emergency).
Step 8: Engage TTIP laws to allow American medical/pharmaceutical companies to force contracts under threat of lawsuit against the British Government, Crown and People.
Step 9: Keep the worst performing assets and hospitals, and proclaim that 'We have saved the NHS'.
Step 10: Retire and profit.
>>72024883
>Charge people who can't give a NI number post-treatment in emergencies
This is what we do in America. You know what happens? People simply throw their bill away and never pay it.
That's why the blacks here go to the Emergency Room for even minor afflictions like sore throat, headaches, etc.. - because the Emergency Room can't refuse service. They treat the black patient, give them a bill, but never get paid. It's a huge problem in urban hospitals, and I've witnessed it first-hand.
>>72021261
>mfw this happens just in time for me to write my Universal Health Care research paper
I mean it sucks that the NHS appears to be unsustainable, hopefully it gets sorted out.
>>72030792
How2fix: Deduct from the aid budget for those countries on an annual basis, with interest.
No aid budget (which is very few third-world countries)? Present the country with a list of passport numbers and an invoice, then in any subsequent dealings just make an agreement conditional on paying the medical bill.
>>72030261
>CHERRY PICKING
WHERE IS THAT
THERE IS A MASSIVE DOCTOR SHORTAGE AND EXODUS
DOCTORS TRAINED THERE ARE LEAVING
NHS IS A JOKE
I CANT HEAR YOU FROM MY SUPERIOR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM FILLED WITH THE MOST INNOVATIVE AND SKILLED PHYSICIANS AND SURGEONS IN THE WORLD
ENJOY PAJEET I HOPE HE WASHED HIS HANDS
>WAHHH WAHHH WAHHH YOU HAVE TO PAY A LOT FOR A SKILLED PHYSICIAN AND SURGEON
WAHH WAHHH
WHY CANT THEY DO IT FOR CHEAP
ITS ALMOST LIKE YOU ALL HAVE NO IDEA HOW INCENTIVE WORKS
WAHHH WAHHH PAJEET PLS WASH YOUR HANDS
>WELCOME TO THE NHS
FILLED WITH THIRD WORD TRAINED DOCTORS BECAUSE THE UK TRAINED ONES REFUSE TO WORK FOR SHIT WAGES AND COME TO THE US
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>72030714
We need to actually kill these people.
The left have fostered an attitude that being critical of the NHS is not allowed and that is perfect, untouchable and holy. They have created the scenario whereby all its problems can never be fixed, because pointing them out is evil, and thus the problems get worse to the point whereby they are unfixable.
>>72031490
This is the bit that pisses me off most about the strike - the left are wailing constantly that caving to evil Hunt's demands will cause fires of hell to rage throughout the hospitals and elderly and young alike will succumb to ... I don't know what, exactly. The BMA were all for accepting the contract if Hunt could scrounge up an extra 20% per hour for weekend work, which would close the gap between the old contract and new and basically bake in equal hours at equal pay. But Hunt's simply said that this won't happen, and rather than continue to negotiate (e.g. on the number of days worked per month, max consecutive shifts worked etc) the junior doctors just went batshit insane and want to overturn the contract.
These lefty useful idiots are just playing right into Hunt's moronic and cack-handed mismanagement of the NHS which will then be used as an avenue to abolish the system entirely.
>>72031490
yeah but Hunt isnt trying to reform the NHS, he is just trying to get more out of it for less
i would support him if he proposed sweeping nhs reform but he hasnt
>>72031934
read this >>72029321
>>72029321
so the problem is that medical practitioners in the UK get a raw deal, and that accounts for the lack of people signing on as personnel for the NHS?
>>72032066
>more out of it for less
Bluepilled as fuck. He's a change agent who's only purpose is to wreak havoc on whatever infrastructure he's put in charge of.
Fuck the indian cunts
They should be proud to serve the empire
Reeee
>>72032924
Medical schools get around 60 applications per place
the NHS works on the good will of its workers and the fact people want to work in healthcare
>>72021328
still causes a lot of problems/wait times/deaths.
My mums a doctor and her and her colleagues will be working around the clock while the junior doctors once again protest by sitting on their arses.
Everyone in the NHS gets paid shit, if you don't get a kick out of helping people and you can't accept shit pay then you chose the wrong fucking profession.
Yes the government are being cunts as usual but it's not as if the life of a junior doctor much better to begin with.
This is what Socialism does.
Privatize health care.
>>72021668
>health tourism
fucking this.
The amount of stories I've heard from friends who are doctors about nigerians visiting family in the UK who turn up with a headache and don't even act surprised when they're told they have fucking brain cancer.
>>72034038
>the NHS works on the good will of its workers and the fact people want to work in healthcare
that's all well and good, but you can't have people working extreme shifts like you described in your above post. a fatigued worker will tend to make mistakes, and mistakes aren't a good thing to have in the medical field.
>>72034374
Yet this is what the government are doing with the new contract
>>72021261
In every instance of a real doctor's strike the death rate falls by 50%, that isn't just a meme it has happened several times.
>>72034536
That's because the most danger a patient faces is when they undergo a procedure or intervention.
>>72021668
Yep. I disagree about kicking out the shitskins - they could be cured for cheap with one orally administered 9mm pill.
>>72034448
I wonder how long it will be before even the most well-meaning and driven British doctors will have had enough.
>>72021261
Don't be stupid, they will be transferred to a private hospital at the cost to the tax payer, nobody is going to be 'left to die'! stupid.
What you think an ambulance isn't showing up for some 5 year old who collapses and stops breathing?!
>>72024908
They will mate, they will go in America or Canada and you will have all the arabs and indians/pakistani doctors with a formation from the 90s.
It actually happens in France, I'm student in med school and half of our juniors come from Maghreb or Romania/Bulgarian, a lot of them don't even speak properly french.
Last time I needed to translate the half french-half campaign dialect of an old hillbilly to a Lebanese surgeon.
Personnaly I could not tolerate to be take in charge by a doctor not even fluent in french.
Thank the government for that, they choose to enroll less medical students to save money and import third world doctor (whose french doctors pass half their time fixing their shit) while throwing money to niggers.
Fuck this country.
>>72029791
DOES IT HAVE TO BE LUCOZADE OR WILL ANY SOFT DRINK DO?
If their striking leads to death then the army should open fire on their protests
>>72031001
Looks like I'm moving to Michigan for that sweet Mayo Clinic top 3 action
>>72037745
I like your thinking but you're a fucking retard.
You know, when someone you knew from school ends up becoming a junior doctor, it really makes you think twice about trusting your life to these people. He was a fucking imbecile.
>>72030588
>We are fighting for patient safety
>That's why we're going on strike and allowing patients to die
kek
To me, the three main points are that the doctors get a higher base pay, have less hours classed as overtime, and the maximum hours of work per week is reduced. So how can it not be about money?
There are some questions that are not raised. Surely the government should pay them the wage that the market would deem fair? The government controls the universities and number of medical places. Surely if places are oversubscribed as fuck with qualified applicants then it means that you can lower the doctors' pay and still have med school applicants?
>inb4 that's harsh
I know, but everyone else lives like this. When a poor person complains to the media / whoever that mass uncontrolled immigration causes the market to deem them unnecessary / a low wage worker then they get called a racist islamophobe. The doctors get tonnes of sympathy. And this is after they were selected for medical school by a process that is set up to make it much harder for poor people to get these jobs.
Not that I particularly want to pick on doctors, as I think MPs and their spads should have seriously slashed salaries
>>72038470
I weep for the poverty stricken intelligentsia
>>72038444
implying patients won't die because they are treated by a doctor who hasn't slept in two days
>>72038444
>he doesn't know that patients are going to be taken care of as normal but the junior doctors replaced by consultants instead
>>72037745
>people die as a result of doctors not being there
>kill the doctors, thus ensuring that they're not there ever again
Fucking exceptional logic there
>>72021261
I will look after you over the next two days if the NHS cannot. Remember, I'm a great equalizer just like the NHS can be. And my health cover is free.
>>72027347
>31k
>Great
Oh yuropoors you always amuse me
>>72021261
The Gov. has already offered them far better than they were getting.
If they back down everyone else will strike like this and it'll be chaos that will take Thatcher-level measures to solve. And if the Gov. caves and gives everyone what they want; we become Greece.
These Junior Doctors are pretty much putting people's lives at risk because they don't want to work Saturdays.
>>72044756
Thank the feminisation of the profession for that.
>>72030792
Why don't they deduct if from welfare or SS? Put them under house arrest and take away their candy, I.e cell phones and bitches. They can remove medical waste for all I care..
Government would be fucked whatever it did, so they will just wait it out and let public opinion turn against the jr. doctors.
>>72021261
What's being a doctor like lads, just a glorified customer service rep?
>>72027347
>31k as a RN
>im making 36 AN HOUR as a surgical technologist
Ahahaha yurop. Now go fund those mosques!
Someone red pill me on this whole thing. From what I have gathered, Hunt wants NHS reform but is kinda shitty at implementing it. The left cries that he is even pointing out flaws. Still don't get why the junior docs are so buttblasted though
