Was turning Japs into rice crispies the right move?
>>71979783
no regrets
should've hit tokyo too.
>>71979783
More like stir fry.
Maybe. The Americans' motivations were fucked up, but it's perhaps the one single example throughout all of history where their cultural imperialism actually worked as intended.
>>71980001
more like fried octopus
we've had this debate so many times now.
the answer has always been yes.
sage
>>71979783
for what they did in nan king was worth it. shoulda dont it sooner. but using pearl harbor was a never too late reason.
it doesn't matter if it was the right move.
it worked.
>>71979783
Well, it wasn't pretty, but it fucking sealed the deal on Japanese saying "fuck it, you win."
>>71980013
>imperialism
A FUCKING LEAF
We didn't annex them or turn them into a colony, you stupid maplefag. They bombed us.
>>71979783
lets see we have:
>weeaboos
>animes about pulps raping little girls
>farts and pussy odor on bottles and weirds shits like that
>autistic image boards(4hcan) for losers like us
>people masturbating to cartoons.
Do you think you did something good burger?
>>71979945
I said this to one of my friends while we were in the museum at Hiroshima.
![1372449461160[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/UVzX427.png "1372449461160[1].png")
>>71979945
>>71980302
yes
fuck the meatball faggots
>>71979978
Tell us what you think happened to Tokyo during the war, dumb fuck.
>>71979783
They were being hysterical (muh emperor) and needed to be slapped out of it. They are good people, but they tend to slip into crazy fixations.
>kept Stalin at bay
>kept Japs from mass sudoku
>saved countless American lives
I'd say we did the right thing.
>>71980429
Pretty much, the fire bombings worked better and were much cheaper. Of course we needed hundreds of bombers at once to do it right.
We should have hit them with at least fifteen nukes. The people here wouldn't be nearly as cucked if we had.
Same with Afghanistan. If America doesn't want people attacking it, we have to teach people not to fuck with America.
>>71980213
The war with Japan could have ended much sooner, but the Americans wanted unconditional surrender from the Japanese, not just a peace treaty. They wanted them bent over a dakimakura with their cheeks spread. This is what the nukes were forcing.
Afterwards the Americans forced laws on the Japanese in an attempt to force democracy on them, forcefully civilize them with decency laws and... well, it worked. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the only time something like this has ever worked out like that.
>>71979783
>multiple world powers in state of total war
>one world power uses maximum force against country that attacked it without warning
how is this even a fucking question? it was total war. all bets were off.
so fucking sick of these "historians" who want to sit around and punish victors in every conflict simply for being better at conflict. and in the case of US vs Japan, JAPAN was the initial aggressor. fuck off.
>>71980778
>that attacked it without warning
Is that what you learned today in the third grade?
>>71980429
didn't get nuked. the radiation affects post-war are what matter.
>>71979783
>implying 80-90% of every major city wasnt fire bombed prior to nukes getting dropped
https://youtu.be/8kkxzSWFTDY
>>71981167
To the decision makers at the time, using the nukes was the same as what they have been doing to Germany and Japan throughout the war except more efficiently, indiscriminately bombing civilians.
>>71981251
>50 views
>shilling your youtube channel
testing flag
>>71981757
>uploaded in 2011
>on /pol and not a history aficionado
why are you in this thread?
>>71979783
was sliding threads on /pol/ the right move?
>>71979978
Killing the emperor probably would have prolonged the war. The bombs at least made their point come across the most important person in Japan
>>71979783
Yes, nuking them was the best move
Not only because it would save the lives of hundreds of thousands of GIs but also it allowed us to subjugate Japan under American influence and deny the commies a pacific stronghold
Also it they rightly deserved it for being fucking slant eyed bastards
>>71979783
Probably was the right thing to do. But i can for sure say that the right thing to do is share this ULTRA rare pepe with you
>>71979783
No shit.
>>71980013
>motivations were fucked
What? If anything dropping the bomb saved lives. An invasion of the Japanese mainland would have cost millions of US lives, and millions of Japanese lives both soldiers and nutjob civilians who were ready to give their life for the emperor. The bombs only killed some 200,000.
>>71983018
He's saying their motivations were fucked because they demanded complete surrender.
In other words typical Canadian faggot.
Libtard here
We should have dropped them on Kyoto as well as Nagasaki
Think of it this way: the reason Japan isn't constantly reminded about the 6 gonzillion in Nanking is because they too got to play the victim.
What would have happened to their leadership if we had killed the Emperor in a bombing raid?
>>71979783
No, it was wrong. We could have slapped Mr. Jap without going nuclear on him.
>>71983018
motives ≠ results
>>71983134
Yeah, pretty much. Issues of sovereignty, false narrative, cultural imperialism and all that shit. It usually blows up in the Americans' faces, but this time it worked as intended. Give yourself a pat on the back.
>>71980182
Underrated post
>>71979783
It was the single greatest crime in the history of mankind, as it defies all conventions of war to indiscriminately attack civilians with weapons of mass destruction.
However, it will never be prosecuted, because victors do the prosecuting of war crimes.
>>71984072
Was gonna respond to this but then I was like
>leaf
2/10
we had to nuke souls into them
no nuke = no soul. see: china
"...the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing."
- DWIGHT EISENHOWER, Newsweek, 11/11/63
"It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.
-ADMIRAL WILLIAM D. LEAHY
(Chief of Staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman)
"The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul."
"...the Japanese were prepared to negotiate all the way from February 1945...up to and before the time the atomic bombs were dropped; ...if such leads had been followed up, there would have been no occasion to drop the [atomic] bombs."
-HERBERT HOOVER
"When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked, would his advice have been? He replied that he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor."
-Norman Cousins was a consultant to GENERAL DOUGLAS MacARTHUR during the American occupation of Japan
THEY DIDN'T EVEN CONSULT MACARTHUR
>>71984072
>the nukes were so bad
>greatest crime ever
>ignoring fire bombings of Tokyo
>ignoring Dresden
>ignoring Berlin
At the time they thought the nukes were just like any other bombing except they can could use one plane instead of hundreds. If anything it shows the Allies had no right to hold trials for "crimes against humanity"
>>71984072
>conventions of war
>for something that hadn't been used before
Before bombs
>Rape of Nanking
>Unit 731
>Bataan Death March
>Sandakan Death March
>Banka Island Massacre
After bombs
>anime
You're welcome, world.
>>71983226
kyoto has too many historical monuments and artifacts. I would prefer tokyo or osaka 2bh
>>71984744
>nuking tokyo and osaka
>wasting a nuke just to bounce rubble.
>>71980668
>Actually believing America is there to fight terrorism
kek
>>71982200
What is sliding threads?
>>71985082
>doesn't know Canada is part of our Samson Option
Keep up the shit talk, syrup nigger. You'll be disintegrated soon enough.
>>71985082
It doesn't matter what we're there for, the best option for doing anything in Afghanistan is dropping as many nukes as we have onto that shithole. The world would be a better place without them
>>71985411
>doesn't know Canada
And?
>>71985587
Having that mentality means the same for America. So you're telling me it's okay for some country with nukes who doesn't like America to nuke crap of America?
>>71980182
Godly
>>71984395
We had signed a pact with England to not stop the war against Germany and Japan until they give unconditional surrender. The japs did want to surrender before but they didn't want to unconditionally surrender.
>>71985761
That's irrelevant because no one would actually do it due to the whole mutually assured destruction thing. And again, it's only what they deserve for attacking us.
>>71986237
Doesn't there can't be a crazy person to do it. So, technically you support the idea of two countries blowing each other up.
>For attacking us.
Actually believing this.
>>71983226
>libtard here
Do you think being bloodthirsty is a rare trait among libtards or something? It was a lib who dropped the bomb in the first place. It was also a lib who made Vietnam happen.
>>71986572
I believe the fear of nuclear war would do a lot to turn this generation around, at the very least, and it would best be facilitated if it actually happened somewhere
>Actually believing this
Do you have sources on 9/11 being caused by the Jews or whoever your boogeyman of choice is? I'd be quite interested in the read.
>>71986987
>Do you have sources
I'm just lazy now to search for the sources. You can wait and there might a big happening on /pol/ in the next week. So just wait for that.
