Can ANYONE prove this map wrong?
Protip: 'No'
>>71972719
No it's accurate but who are the nominees?
>>71972719
Can't really prove it true though.
Trump has no chance in NM.
>>71972719
Trump is winning NY and PA.
>>71972814
>5 delegates
>>71972790
>Filename
>>71972719
Clinton has a 9-point lead in the general/.
>INB4 "YOU'RE WITH THE CORRECT THE RECORD SHILL REEEEEEEE"
That's literally the RCP average.
>>71972869
I don't believe he'll win NY but PA he has a shot at I think. I hope i'm wrong on the NY part though!
Sorry buddy but after Obama got a second term these predictions are meaningless to me.
I'm not gonna hold my breath until the election.
>>71972719
>Nevada and New Hampshire light red
>Colorado and Virginia light red
no
>>71972719
Why the fuck would Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, and New Mexico vote for Trump in this scenario?
OH and WI lean blue
>>71972907
>Taking MSM at face value
>Not understanding dynamic polling
>Polls not showing votes outside party lines
>Hillarys abysmal disshonesty rating
>Record turnouts for Repubs in most states, Dems down
Just end your life
>>71972719
Kasich is the only Republican who can win Ohio,NH,Virginia,Wisconsin. He's moderate enough to win Nevada and Colorado as well. This map more reflects Kasich than Trump.
I think the race will depend on who wins Iowa or New Hampshire.
>>71973211
>>Taking MSM at face value
>implying RCP is mainstream
>>Not understanding dynamic polling
>>Polls not showing votes outside party lines
>he doesn't realize how predictive RCP has been
m8, don't cry come November.
>>71972719
PA should be red desu senpai I think they finally had enough liberal ass fucking
>>71973709
>Thinking Clinton has a shot in hell at winning the presidency at this point
You're gonna have a bad 4-8 years bucko
>>71973822
The only chance is FBI busting her
>>71972719
>Trump
>winning Hispanicland
>>71973822
Nigga, /pol/ is nothing like the real world.
The average person hates Trump. He's a niche candidate who only really appeals to about 10% of the electorate.
>>71973794
Their population ratio, urban:rural, favors the dems. Look at the by-county breakdowns and you'll see that elections in the US don't really go Red State / Blue State, they go urban cores v. rural populations. States that are more urban will go to the dems. Much like NY, PA will go the way of its major urban center.
>>71976780
Yeah but those 10% show up to vote. The other asshurt voters weren't going to vote for anyone either.
>>71972719
>Trump winning VA
No
>Trump winning WI
No
>Trump winning OH
Did he make a porno with Kasich?
VA will not go to Republicans, it's gone purple to light blue now. Thanks to the people bordering Maryland. You people are living in a pipe dream.
Embrace your new overlord; shillary.
>>71972869
Source?
He's getting trounced in NY and PA he's losing by like 5-7%.
>>71976957
People are more afraid of / disgusted by Trump than they are turned off by Hilary. Unless the FBI drops a bomb, and that bomb completely takes her out, Hilary will beat Trump in a general election.
>>71972719
Michigan might turn red because of the people want Jobs.
>>71977290
Nobody likes hillary either. Republican turnout would be high as fuck to keep her out.
>>71972869
Not new york, possibly PA. Thanks to the city NY is perma blue
>Wisconsin
>not blue
>>71972719
trump wins NH, michigan and nevada but loses wisconsin.
>>71972719
>FL, NM, OH, WI, VA
>red
lol no. Stop deluding yourself.
>>71977582
The only reason its going to be tight is because of her high unfavorables, if it were anyone else it'd be a landslide. As it stands, though, Trump has higher unfavorables than Hilary; the base of both parties are more afraid of Trump than they are disgusted by Hilary.
>>71977582
Has Trump got a high favourability amongst Republicans?
What if Republican turnout is 2012 level due to the fact that they don't like Trump?
>>71972869
>Trump is winning NY
In what universe?
I mean fuck, most of the argument for him winning blue states is record turnout in Republican primaries, but in NY Trump got 500k to Hillary's 1m.
>>71976896
And pa has two such urban centers so going red is highly unlikely
>>71972907
>Electoral College.
>>71977745
I don't even think it's going to be tight.
Fuck, Trump can't get above 35% v Hillary nationally. Unless Repubicans rally behind Trump and bring some independents with them, which I don't think much of the party has a stomach for, they're going to get trounced.
Plenty of Dems might not like/trust Hillary. But they at least view her as competent enough to do the job and at the very least they'd rally AGAINST Trump if given the choice.
Let's face it, liberals rule the United States now. With the amount of pull big cities, liberal states, and minorities have on elections, it's impossible to elect a conservative.
Predicting any of this stuff is meaningless because it's just never going to happen that a conservative wins.
>>71978308
>Fuck, Trump can't get above 35% v Hillary nationally.
False
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
>>71972814
Fuck you there is a huge anti Hillary billboard in the center of my town.
>>71972719
Theres no way a republican is winning New Mexico anytime soon. Also I think its pretty unlikely we will win Virginia or Wisconsin, though I think we will win PA, so I agree Trump will become the rightful God Emperor. tfw.
>>71977731
He's way ahead in FL already and once Kasich is VP we'll havve OH in the bag to. What Trump really needs to work on is PA.
>>71972719
Colorado is blue. The legal pot means I have had plenty of friends that moved there in the last few years. They have only gone further to the left.
>trump
>winning Ohio, Florida, New Mexico, Arizona, Indiana
Lol nice try
you 4channers need to step up your game
>>71976957
>Implying Hillary isn't going to be played up as the matronly savior to save us from the second coming of Hitler
>>71972869
PAfag here, Trump has a decent chance of winning PA have him be the nom. Lots of the counties here are solid red, but Pittsburgh/Philadelphia/Harrisburg will raise lots of Dem votes.
>>71979080
He'll win Arizona probably
>>71978306
Trump v Clinton RCP average by battleground state
Clinton leads
Florida: 2.2%
Pennsylvania: 7.4%
Ohio: 4%
Michigan: 8.6%
North Carolina: 2%
Virginia: 13%
Minnesota: 2.3%
Wisconsin: 10.7%
Iowa: 5%
New Hampshire: 10.2%
Trump leads
Georgia: 9%
Colorado: 11%
Tie
Arizona (Probable Red)
No Data
Oregon (Probable Blue)
Nevada
New Mexico (Probable Blue)
If the election were held today, Clitnon would have 332 electoral votes of the 270 she needs to win.
>Electoral College
>>71978571
I'm sorry, I meant 40%
Fucked is fucked regardless.
>>71972719
i'm pretty sure for colorado, if bernie doesn't get the nomination, which it's obvious he won't at this point, nobody is going to vote democrat lol.
>>71979080
You niggers are fucking retarded. Arizona & Indiana are fucking guranteed republican states. Florida is leaning Trump if you look at any of the fucking polls. Ohio is slightly leaning towards Clinton but if Kasich were made VP we'd have that to. Only thing I agree with is there is no way a Republican much less Donald Trump would win New Mexico, ut other then that you sound like a fucking retard.
If trump wins, I'm leaving for the UK.
>>71973705
Cucking the hillary that badly
>>71980135
nobody gives a shit.
go to africa and get hiv instead.
>>71980073
Kasich is on record saying he'd be a terrible vice president.
Giving him the position would be a massive liability.
And Clinton's up in Florida
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton-5635.html
>>71980135
They don't want you either. Head south to Belize faggot.
>>71979002
i drive around denver daily, for my job, i've seen maybe one shillary sign. i've seen hundreds of bernie ones, they won't vote democrat if it's the same old shit, they'll just continue to blazeit420.
>>71979733
Those numbers are driven up by bs polls made by cnn, nbc, etc. If you look at actual reliable pollsters Trump has a slight lead in Florida & North Carolina. Hillary only has a slight lead in Ohio & Pennsylvania, and Iowa is too close to call in Iowa & Colorado.
>>71977745
The people who hate trump weren't voting republican to begin with, they're a nonissue.
>>71979733
Trump has competed against far more opponents than hillary has. This is a nonissue as well. Look at voter turnout for R vs B. Plenty of cruz voters will show up to keep hillary out, if only because muh guns muh benghazi.
>>71980249
Kasich's only saying that because there's still a chance he could win in the 2nd ballot, which he does have a small shot at doing. Unless he explicitly says he wouldn't do the job then its still on the table. Also CNN & NBC are notoriously inaccurate pollsters & also you should know they're blatant shillers. Take them out and all the recent polls say Trump is ahead.
>>71980135
nigga, they full up on neets
>>71980248
HIV sounds better than another eight years of republican rule. I've already tolerated dubya...no more.
>>71980409
Trump's getting his ass kicked in Florida according to Quinnipiac and they tend to poll right.
Also
>bs polls
Okay, let's look at betting markets. They're far more reliable than polls AND they aren't run by any one person so there's no fudging the numbers.
https://electionbettingodds.com/
>>71980620
>Trump has competed against far more opponents than hillary has.
They're versus polls you dipshit.
>>71980700
He's saying he would be shit at the job.
Kinda makes you look like an idiot if you hire him for it.
>>71979002
Everyone here hates Hillary. She wont have enough voter turnout.
>>71980886
It's not an accurate representation you fucking moron.
>voters support anyone between 17
>voters support anyone between 2
Gee, who would win the fucking head to head? Blue already counts on half of them. Red is fractured as fuck.
>>71980327
My ancestors came from there. Why would they mind? Maybe its time to go back home. I had enough of conservative nationalists.
>>71980836
This is beyond retarded
>>71980929
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2016/03/02/clinton-leading-trump-in-colorado-new-poll-shows.html
>The Keating Research/OnSight Public Affairs tracking poll, released Wednesday, shows Democrat Clinton ahead of Republican front-runner Trump by 10 percentage points in Colorado, 49 percent to 39 percent.
>>71981030
Versus polls work by asking who you would like between 2 people, in this case Trump or Hillary.
They only give you 2 options.
You are a god damn idiot.
>>71979844
Wait until the debates. Trump was "fucked" against the GOPe candidates, too. Look how that turned out once they put them in a room together.
>>71980808
better get to it then.
you "if x happens i'm moving to y" are pathetic fucking children, your behavior can be equated to holding your breath until turning blue until you get what you want.
fuck yourself back to whatever shithole you came from and stay there.
>>71981228
Trump was the frontrunner before the first debate, dipshit.
>>71981219
I know how it works you fucking clown.
>Wisconsin red
>Michigan blue
Flip that shit, senpai
>>71972719
Faggotconsin is not going red.
>People truly believe Trump has a chance at the general
>Trump winning Ohio
>Trump winning NM
>Trump winning Wisconsin
lawl
>>71981338
apparently not since "I like Cruz" has no god damn bearing on who you would pick between Trump and Hillary.
I like the god damn Old Spaghetti Factory but if asked where I want to god damn eat that has no god damn bearing on my fucking answer because there isn't one in my town.
>>71981228
this.
i get the strong and tingly feeling that hilary would get the shit kicked out of her by trump in the debates.
>>71972719
>he doesn't know it's the republicans that are going to take trump out
>>71981335
Not by nearly as much as he is now, dipshit.
>>71981303
My ancestors came from Ireland over 200 years ago, and before that...England.
>>71981511
As it turns out, that's what happens when over a dozen people drop out of a race.
Imagine god damn that.
See
>>71981448
for why this has no bearing on how badly Hillary is going to continue kicking Trump's ass.
>>71981449
>You know how I know you're bought and paid for? I bought and paid for you!
>>71981303
Listen to trump talk is akin to 10 year old ranting on Xbox live...you should know.
>>71980836
The quinnipac poll your talking about was back in september.
Also yes dumbass CNN & NBC are blatantly shilling. Literally all the local polls say Trump has a slight lead, while CNN & NBC which have a history of being wildly inaccurate say Hillary has a huge lead. hmmm. I wonder what that could mean.
Trump is the more unpredictable of the two candidates, which is why I'm guessing Hillary is ahead in betting odds. I don't really think though that thats a very good way of predicting an election though.
>>71981616
And who was it who made them drop out?
>>71980920
Nigger what?
>>71981721
>Polls that agree with me are right
>Polls that disagree are wrong and made by shills
You sound just as fucking retarded as the entire Republican Party did when Nate Silver accurately predicted Obama would crush Romney in a landslide.
Where for months people dismissed it as "shilling," "oversampling Democrats," and just being flat-out wrong.
>>71972719
Tfw you live in Illinois, and your vote in the general election will never matter
>>71981919
Romney lost that all by himself. Unrelated, I know. But All he had to do was not be Obama and he should have won. But he's so fucking boring and weird he couldn't win.
>>71978625
anecdotal
>>71972719
It'll be hilarious if Trump's defense of trannies in bathrooms comes back to haunt him in November if North Carolina conservatives feel betrayed and stay home, allowing the state to go Blue.
>>71981807
>Kasich: I would be a terrible vice president
>Trump: I'm making Kasich my vice presidential running m8
>Media: Trump makes a terrible choice for vice president according to his choice for vice president
You don't put people on staff that denounce your product, especially if that product is them.
This isn't difficult.
>>71972719
This is honestly the most accurate map I have seen yet.
>>71972869
Not NY but I think Trump could split PA, he has a huge following there even in Pittsburgh.
>>71981919
LOOK AT CNN & NBC'S FUCKING POLLING HISTORY YOU LITERAL FUCKING NIGGER! ALSO FUCKING NATE SILVER ONLY PREDICTED THE MOTHERFUCKING ELECTION IN ONE OF SEVERAL MODELS HE MADE A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION. I CAN'T TELL IF YOUR UNDERAGE, RETARDED, OR SHILLING, BUT PLEASE DO SOCIETY A FAVOR AND JUMP OUT A WINDOW.
>>71981600
>my ancestors this ancestors that
literally nobody cares about your whining like a defeatist baby, threatening to leave the country due to a president being elected who's not of your choosing.
go ahead and fuck off to wherever you want and leave us be.
>>71982074
There's more to it than that, a lot of it had to do with Romney being another staunchly pro-establishment businessman that nobody could relate to. Most people felt like he would mainly help the rich and there was nothing humanizing about him, whereas Obama for all his mistakes at least felt relatable and approachable.
It's fucking stupid, but many Americans judge who they vote for based on personality rather than policy.
I think what would really have crushed Hillary in the upcoming general election was Rubio, the one campaign she didn't want to go up against.
Donald Trump isn't what the Republicans need. Past all the memeing, he's scarier to Independents than fucking Shillary is and isolating the growing Black and Hispanic vote isn't going to do shit for him. Even if some corporations had their hands on him a bit, he spoke well, was young, had hispanic roots, and seemed like a cool guy. He would have easily won hands down. Instead the Republicans want Meme Man.
>>71981919
this election isn't like any other election before.
>>71982284
>Getting this mad
>Posting in all caps
Damn son, this is either low quality b8 or you are actually autistic as fuck. Get some air.
>>71982133
You don't understand how politics works. Also compared with other headlines I'm not sure the huffington post would even publish that.
Kasich is trying to make it clear he's not a pushover, but unless he said he would absolutely never want to be the VP for Trump then his resume is still on the table.
>>71973705
whoops, New Hampshire just went to Clinton:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_trump_vs_clinton-5596.html
>>71982424
Sorry of that wounds your national pride but ask the dumb fucks in Poland who blindly voted for right wing nationalists, how that's working out for them.
>>71982493
Like that hasn't been said before.
Let me pull up the half-dozen remarks made by Republicucks where 2012 was going to be the election that "captured America by surprise" and one that made the Democrats in awe at just how badly Romney crushed Obama.
>>71982511
I need to speak very loud because thats the only way to get the point across to retards like you.
>>71972719
I'm sorry, Trump is NOT winning Virginia, Colorado, or New Mexico. There's just no way. He's also not going to win Wisconsin. Ohio will probably go blue because Kasich is the only republican candidate most of them like.
>>71980073
Kasich just made a pact with Cruz to stop Trump. He's not getting the VP spot.
>>71982717
Your anger doesn't make your reasoning any less autistic. Polls say Shillary will crush Meme Man in the general. I can't wait for the buckets of pure tears that roll in. Get mad, faggot.
>>71982803
The entire party is allied against him. Unless Kasich was coming at Trump like Cruz or Rubio simply opposing him wouldn't kick him off the list of candidates.
>>71982708
try thinking for yourself instead of saying what other people have said about something else.
>>71982962
As I tried to explain to you before. You are basing your entire reasoning off of a few polls that are in all likelihood wildly inaccurate. Now good night faggot you have school tomorrow.
>>71983022
>Try thinking for yourself
Good answer anon.
Try doing some math and looking at the actual realities of the situation you're digging yourself into. No wait, nevermind, don't; the Republicuck meltdown of 2012 will suffice me for another 4 years in November.
>>71982717
Trump is honestly going to get cunted this election.
>>71983263
kek, how old are you, 20 and suffering from severe downs? You argue like a fucking toddler.
You dismiss polls that disagree with your personal bias and only acknowledge ones that agree with you. I bet you think that all primaries that didn't vote for Trump were somehow 'rigged' too.
>>71983429
I doubt it would be that one-sided unless the establishment actually tried a third party candidate, which I don't think they have the balls to do. Otherwise whether he wins or loses its gonna be pretty close.
fixed
>>71983417
>math being relevant at a point where there are thousands of unknown variables
you must be really good at math.
>>71983733
I dismiss polls that are proven shills and have often been very innaccurate in the past. As I told you before but you clearly haven't done. Go through their polling history. Do a little bit of research. Also I find it funny that you say I'm a bad debater when literally all you've been saying are personal attacks.
>>71972719
Millennials are turning Colorado blue.
Montana has unions that are in love with the communist.
Stop lying, anon.
>>71972719
I'm triggered as fuck that you don't have Indiana as solidly republican.
We've voted democract once in the last 50 years.
>>71984175
>Calling out someone for 'name-calling'
Do I literally have to direct you to the post you made 10 minutes ago where you autistically raged in all caps and posted all sorts of 'name-calling' nonsense
Here, I'll do it anyway.
>>71982284
Try to be a little less hypocritical first if you're going to use the "m-muh logical fallacy" card, you braindead inept gorilla.
Besides that, no polling place has ever been 100% right. Arguing that some places have been inaccurate and therefore not able to be used ever is fucking stupid. Are you going to ignore all the other times when they're correct?
You're holding up a double standard you dumb nigger and boy you sure as shit look dumb doing it.
>>71984480
When the fuck did I say polls had to be correct 100% of the time? I'm just saying that if you actually go through the polls as I said you would find that local polls along with PPP & Quinnipac tend to be closer far more often the polls from shilled sources such as CNN & NBC.
Now go suck a dick.
>>71972719
fug...
>>71972719
Its over killary is finished
>>71972790
>>71982466
>rubio
>standing a chance
The democrats have a machine dedicated to BTFOing junior senators.
>>71985204
toddler.
