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Can money buy happiness?
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Yes.
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>>71916062
Yes.
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>>71916062
Only poor people say it doesn't.
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Money opens up doors that can lead to happiness.
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>>71916062
Yes
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Yes
If I could buy a SLR Mercedes and a 2000m2ยบ house I would be more happy
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Yes. Because with money you don't need to worry about bills or food. Having money completely negates stress.
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>>71916062
Of course
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Money can't buy happiness, but it contributes to makes you happy
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>>71916062

Of course, poverty doesn't bring you happiness.
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Son of millionaires, no you can't.

It's also pretty well backed up that there are diminishing returns in happiness after you pass the point of living comfortably.
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>>71916191
Rich fag with no friends here

No, money doesn't buy happiness
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>>71916062
If you are born rich I dont think money can buy happiness, but if you acquire millions of dollars somehow at your current age then yes money will indeed open doors that will make you happy as fuck
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Not if you are white
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>>71916062
I hate those people who love to tell you
Money is the root of all that kills
They have never been poor
They have never had the joy of a welfare Christmas
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>>71916062
Money can't make you happy, but it can buy jetskis. And jetskis are wiked fun.
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>>71916405
*Rich fag with no social skills here

ftfy
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Dan Bilerianianina or w/e his name is, guy reminds me of a GTA character.
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>>71916516
>spelling wicked wrong

Get your new england right bro.
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>>71916516
What are you doing here Phil?
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>>71916494
Don't worry, anon. I will buy you a garden where your flowers can bloom.
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>>71916494
Thank you Art, we all thought you were dead. Btw, World of Noise is still your best album
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>>71916405

how does that even happen? even if you have fake friends who just follow you cause u rich that's better than being a poltard
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>>71916062
At least with money you don't have to work anymore
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>>71916405

I'll be your friend.

If the price is right.
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>>71916062

Unless you're a beta male like pic related... No it can't buy you happiness
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>>71916062
he looks sad that he has no shoes
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>>71916062

Yes. Money can buy health and new experiences as well.
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Money CAN buy happiness.
That doesn't mean it will.
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>>71916309
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> Anonymous (ID: /Kkr3ov7) 04/24/16(Sun)15:22:03 No.71916309โ–ถ
>Son of millionaires, no you can't.
>It's also pretty well backed up that there are diminishing returns in happiness after you pass the point of living comfortably.
True but that point of diminishing returns is a lot higher than the average salary
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>>71916062
Money can't buy happiness. Money IS happiness.
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>>71916820
Why didn't he buy a chin with his money?
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>>71916932
looks like past 75 grand and generally people don't report geting any happier.
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People who say no think happiness is something you grab off a shelf or some bullshit state of nirvana.

Happiness is a trigger in the brain, be it short-term or long-term.

Yes, money does by happiness. Like I said, it's short-term or long-term. You can buy an ice cream cone for a few minutes of happiness, or get a girlfriend for long-term happiness. Money is more of a key to those moments of pleasure.

With a lot of money, you can keep yourself stable, and not have to worry. You can buy or invest in opportunities to make yourself happy, be it a car for girls, a night on the town, surgery to improve your looks, save a relative's life with medical expenses paid off, etc.

Money is a tool, really.
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>>71916932
>True but that point of diminishing returns is a lot higher than the average salary

This desu. 60 years ago you could reach that point with an average middle class salary. Now you have to either be a trust fund babby, a lottery winner or a criminal to get there.
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>>71916405
Richfag + no friends = unhappy
poorfag + no friends = unhappy
poorfag + friends = unhappy
richfag + friends = happy
so yes it does
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It is immoral to be wealthy and not use much of it to help those in need.
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I ainโ€™t rich, but I damn sure wanna be
Working like a dog all day, ainโ€™t working for me
I wish I had a rich uncle thatโ€™d kick the bucketAnd that I was sitting on a pile like Warren Buffett
I know everybody says
Money canโ€™t buy happiness
But it could buy me a boat, it could buy me a truck to pull it
It could buy me a Yeti 110 iced down with some silver bullets
Yeah, and I know what they say,
Money canโ€™t buy everything
Well, maybe so..
BUT IT CAN BUY ME A BOAT.
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>>71916405
I'll be your friend if you live in Melbourne.

You don't have to pay me either.
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>>71917274
>poorfag + friends = unhappy

Of all things that aren't true, this isn't true the most
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Yes, yes it can.

That's not to say that having money makes one happy, but what one DOES with the money is what matters.
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Well yes, people who use their money in a meaningful way can find joy from it, besides the luxuries you can afford which helps comfort life, but doesn't make it truly happy.

So, yes it can make happiness easier to achieve, but still needs achieving nonetheless.
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>>71916062

To quote David Lee Roth, money will not buy you happiness but it will buy you a big yacht that will pull you up right alongside happiness.
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Money doesn't buy happiness.
Not having money buys misery.
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>>71917450
that's why they always bitchin about having to get up for a job, having to pay for this and that, complainin how they can't afford a house and they need more gibsmedats
>waaa waaaa we're so poor and have no free time or nice things but waaaa we're s-so happy, honest
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>>71916062
of course it can

money is a tool to achieve goals
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I have no desire to live a luxurious life and buy expensive things, but being able to live comfortably without having to wagecuck would definitely make me happier.
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>>71916062
Yes, especially when your dad makes it all and your reap the benefits by doing the only successful thing you've done in your existence...beat the other sperm to the egg.
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>>71917770
>wasting your life as a wagecuck just because some jew whispered shit in your ear about self-reliance and self-worth and personal achievement
egoism is for fools
you done been jewwed
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>>71916062
Yes.
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>>71917886
>having no skill or talent that has value in this reality
>justifying it
>somehow that's a kikes fault

Brool cory sro
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>>71917450
Poorfag with friends Here. I'm so unhappy I want to kill myself. My only friends are my Tibetan mastiff and my pet crow.
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>>71916062
Economic security is an aspect of a happy life.
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>>71916062
I am Rich and it does not make you happy. You need a certain amount to be happy, but not more than to cover living, energy, Food, clothes, holidays etc
I would not care if I received a million dollar today because I have nothing that I want to spend it on.
I have been Rich
I have been poor for 5 years
I am Rich now
People who is looking for Money will get very unhappy if they receive it
Imagine if you got a million dollar what would you do?
You would still be the same person
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>>71918010
value to whom?
your skills have value to your overlords
good goy
make yourself 'useful'
feel good about being a slut being played by simple psychological tricks
base your self worth on your usefulness to your masters
good goy
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It depends. Most life long richies haven't struggled for anything so despite being rich they get depressed. I mean, to them and realistically they're not happy. But give that money to a poor fucker who has scrimped and saved to barely get by and still goes hungry some nights? He will never forget his past and will drain every ounce of happiness he can from those dollars.

I'm by no means super wealthy, but i'm in my late 20s and just recently got a promotion to the point where i have (compared to my expenses) ludicrous amounts of money left over after spending my life trying to get to this point, and i'm loving every second of it. I can do everything i ever wanted and i've never felt happier.
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>>71917078

lol
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>>71918081
benis
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>>71916062
15 years ago, one night I had to make a choice between eating or feeding my dog.
Now, I'm well off and much happier.

Money does buy happiness.
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>>71918088

Hiking, biking, restoring old cars, sailing, fishing, hobbies literally too numerous to mention that you enjoy, the ability to go out and find hobbies you do enjoy without worrying about the investment needed to take them up.

Money puts the world at your fingertips.
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>>71918088

It comes to a specific point tho. I'm piss poor now, going 0 month after month and I'd get rid of most of my problems with just 5k usd. We have a world governed by money thus it'll make life easier if you have money to spare, but the difference between 1 and 2 million if you live a non extravagant life is nothing.
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>>71918081
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>>71916062
It can buy things
things don't make you happy though
things that lead to achievements that make you look forward to something, maybe buying other things can make you happy

If it is fulfilling to you, and what you want to achieve, then you can find happiness in it.
Buying cool shit is instant gratification, not a source of happiness.
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>>71916557
can money buy social skills?
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>>71916062
No, but it buys first class flight tickets around the world. Trust me that will make you happy.
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>>71916062
Yep, but not peace of mind, understanding of natural law & morality, and inner discipline.
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Diminishing returns after about ยฃ60k salary ($100,000usd) because that's the point where you can have no financial worries living a comfortable life
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>>71918747
>things don't make you happy
Get a hobby anon
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>>71916287
this pretty much
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>>71916062
It can damn well try.
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>>71919162
Thats not the same as just Having a thing.
Making things sure as fuck makes me happy, thats my hobby.

Sculptures lining my shelves that no one ever gets to see, and I'll never stop being proud of it.
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>>71918385
You ate the dog didn't you.
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Money can't buy you happyness. But you can focus on getting happy without spending it. Then you are happy and have money
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>>71916062

I'm 100% certain I will be happy with or without money.
I will be happier with money though.
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>>71916191
i nerver get this part. it the true so why lie?
i am poor by the way
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Yes for me anyway

I have shit to do and always need cash for it.

It really depends on how you want to spend the cash
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Too bad money can't make that Bilzerian faggot taller than the 5'3 dwarf that he is, unless he purchases and wears 6+ inch platform boots, which would be hell on his feet
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>>71916405
I can be your friend, no homo
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>>71921305
>that Bilzerian faggot

Fuck off you're just jealous

I wish I was as based as the Bildozer
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>>71916062
I'm not rich, but it looks more that it can buy time. And that time gives you freedom.
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>>71916062
Only one way to find out, but first you need to become rich.
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>>71917070
A wild NIGGER appears!
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>>71916062
No, but it helps.
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>>71916062
yes, unless happiness for you always is more money.
more money is the only thing money can't buy
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>>71918789
Yes, if you find the right teacher. A professor that taught a consultancy/tendering unit at my university vastly improved my ability to speak and interact on both a personal and professional level.

Tone, flow and body language are simple to the point it can be explained to anybody, the trick is first mimicking those lessons in every aspect of your life, then repetition until it becomes habit and eventually part of your personality.

Here's a free tip, instead of using filler noises (umm, uhh etc) simply pause and consider your next sentence, it makes you look thoughtful instead of idiotic (especially when speaking publicly) and helps with getting flustered. If you internalise that it is ok to pause your speech flows a lot better.
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No but it makes it a hell of alot easier.
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>>71916062
Yes.
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>>71916249

But then you start stressing about first world problems

It kind of just depends on who you are
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>>71916062
no but without money people will treat you like shit for no reason, and refuse to employ you so that you continue to have no money so they can treat you like shit.

Its best to stay above the curve so you don't get stuck in that bullshit.
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I lost an older brother due to a drunk driver. We won $3 million in a lawsuit and that assholr is in prison for 15 years. Does the money make us any happier? Not really, it's been a year since and we still live in our same old house and still working at our same jobs. We still drive the same cars, nothing has changed other than I lost my brother.
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>>71921993
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>>71916062
not politics

we've had this thread hundreds of times before

fuck off
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>>71925137
Good god man do some squats
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>>71924605
Well thats nice to know

Not that I need it
Honestly my only speaking problem is my phonetics and pace, generally.
Unless I'm having some kind of serious discussion, a REAL discussion, in which case I speak myself pretty damn well for a shut in.
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>>71916405

You can buy yourself a german friend to a discount price right now

Germans are super cheap atm due to the crisis.

Optimists on pol expect the prices for german friends to raise in th enext years so you better buy one now.
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>>71916062
it can buy you pleasures and get you bypass hard times but it cant buy the ability to be content with whatever you have and its a human tendency to never be satisfied

so my final answer is no
what does it mean to be happy anyway? and why should happiness be a goal to strive for instead of survival regardless of happiness?
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>>71916062
Yes
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no
couse how can you be happy when western civilization dying
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>>71918081
Benis?
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>>71916062

It buys security and freedom and if that doesn't make anyone the least bit happy then I don't know what will.
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>>71916062
No. If you're rich but have no friends you won't be happy. Maybe some of the autists here would be but most people still need meaningful human relationships to feel content in their lives.
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>>71916820

THIS IS NOW A SUPREME GENTLEMAN THREAD FAGGOTS

https://youtu.be/MQUW3Km01BM

cANT dODGE tHE rODGE fUCKING cUCKS!!!
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>>71916062
money cant buy you friends, family, companionship or self worth
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>>71916405
I'll be your friend ausbro
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can money buy legs?
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>>71916062

no, it buys comfort that's for sure
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>>71916191
Poorfag here, I'm not really bothered desu. Growing up poor made me the alpha cunt I am now. I would never have gotten into all those fights growing up if I was a posh little mammas boy.

A new multi gym would probably make me happy though, but I'm broke.
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>>71918088
$1mil isn't rich though... It can only buy you a shit-tier house here.
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I'd be pretty happy if I didn't have to go to work. I'd be pretty happy if I had duel gtx titans in my computer. I'd be pretty happy forf I could buy a gun that costs more than 200 dollars.

So yes. Money should buy happiness. Though I wouldn't know.
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>>71916062
>tfw flag
>tfw no freedom
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I am relatively happy. I have most the things people claim "money can't buy" (money totally could by it anyway, though). I'm making a decent living, but I would be a lot happier if I got a pile of money.

All of my problems would be solved by acquiring more money, thus raising my level of happiness.

Money can't give you everything, but is sure as fuck helps a lot.
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>>71916062
Absolutely. What is a person without money?
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I ainโ€™t rich, but I damn sure wanna be
Working like a dog all day, ainโ€™t working for me
I wish I had a rich uncle thatโ€™d kick the bucket
And that I was sitting on a pile like Warren Buffett
I know everybody says
Money canโ€™t buy happiness

But it could buy me a boat, it could buy me a truck to pull it
It could buy me a Yeti 110 iced down with some silver bullets
Yeah, and I know what they say,
Money canโ€™t buy everything
Well, maybe so,
But it could buy me a boat

They call me redneck, white trash and blue collar
But I could change all that if I had a couple million dollars
I keep hearing that money is the root of all evil
And you canโ€™t fit a camel through the eye of a needle
Iโ€™m sure thatโ€™s probably true,
But it still sounds pretty cool
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>>71926523
Yes, I hear they are pretty cheap in Mexico. Attaching them is the hard part.
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>>71916062
That's a stupid question. Of course it can. Of course money is hard to get. But my mathematical equation for happiness is: Money=Happiness.
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>>71926523
We have the NHS here, we don't need money to buy legs. The wage slaves by them for us and pretty much everything else.
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I am very rich, I am very depressed.

I can say there are brackets I've found where it buys me more peace, or less stress.

100-150k a year means you basically never have to worry about any real bills again.

500k a year mark means you can basically quit your job in a year and not work for another 5 years and be happy.

When I hit the 5m a year mark, I could afford private jets, high end women, the best cars, many houses / apartments... and I realized I was going to be depressed forever.

I currently make about 10m a year in residuals, I am now down to two homes, and a car at each location.

I constantly think about blowing my head off. I have a little sister and a qt girl friend who are depending on me for stuff, so I dont.
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>>71916062
Money doesn't necessarily bring happiness, but lack of it will bring sadness
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>>71926853

>appropriating nigger culture like it's a good thing
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>>71916062
Yes, jews tell you it doesn't so that you stay poor and unhappy
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>>71926202
You'd be surprised how much self-worth you have when you see 1 million that you earned in the bank.
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>>71916062
what kind of car is that
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from the moment my eyelids slide open in the morning an ice cold jolt of anxiety rips through my chest. My heartbeat accelerates. Thoughts racing.
MONEY.


I need
MONEY. so I can retired to a cottage in oregon.
I only need about $750k. I am about 5% of the way there in savings.

so yea money can buy happiness.
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>>71916405
>>71916773
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>>71916062
I am poor and very happy.

Want to know why?

Because I have you guys :^)
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>>71926787
That's a boring collection of guns. No diversity.
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>>71927131
Fisker Karma. Money definitely can't buy taste.
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No, it probably doesn't. But it's much more comfortable crying in a limousine than in a public bus.
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>>71927022
Post timestamp with something really expensive, like a bigmac at Swiss McDonald's
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>>71927372

HEY FUKKA YOU, LIL FUCKFUCK
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happiness is a meme m8 money can buy you status and pride which is the more important than life
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>>71927664

why are his legs so fucked in every picture? Even his boots look weird shaped and sized.
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>>71916062
It can't buy height though. BLitzerian will always be a manlet, money is just compensating.
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>>71927022
>currently make about 10m a year
>constantly think about blowing my head off
>have a little sister and a qt girl friend who are depending on me for stuff, so I dont

You're basically me except I'm not rich, I know I will never be rich, I don't have a gf, and no one depends on me.

Only reason why I haven't killed myself is cause I know grandparents never want to outlive their grandchildren.
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>>71918081
:-DDDD
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>>71916062

No.

My best friend (only friend) is literally the son of one of the richest men in Austria.

He literally has millions in his own bank account.

He almost killed himself, because his (then) girlfriend cheated on him and when confronted broke up with him.

Ill also add, that his dick is huge and hes a fit and very smart man.

Money does not buy happiness, it buys status and a lifestyle, which CAN make you happy.

However, money does not buy:

>love
>friends
>family
>respect
>looks
>health (to an extent)
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>>71925137
all that money and he cant buy a squat rack
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>>71927664
>Fisker Karm
>>71928501

Blizianianam's feet ain even touching the ground
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>>71927022
Do you have any hobbies? Or do you still work full time?
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>>71928501

he's like 5'3 that's why
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>>71916062
You can't buy happiness.

You can buy a stress-free life that makes it easier to achieve happiness.
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>>71928815
Sounds like your friend is a little bitch to be honest
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It depends of how it affects your routine

If your start getting out more, doing new things then yes

Now if your keep doing the same things just getting more money you'll feel more
accomplished, but not happier
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>>71916062
i'd rather be rich and sad than poor and sad
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>>71929336
My work basically is my hobby.
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>>71928699
I am also a coward when it comes to death
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If it doesn't, you're shopping at the wrong store.
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>>71916062
>Can money buy happiness?
A big cock can get you anything
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Money can't directly buy happiness

Money CAN buy cocaine

Cocaine triggers the same neurochemicals in the brain as actual happiness

Therefore, money can buy happiness
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>>71916062
Yes OP,that thing that can be readily exchanged for goods and services can buy you happiness. You just have to have enough of it.
Your question is like
Can money buy home ?
It's fucking stupid and vague and the answer is obviously yes.
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>>71931470
It doesn't trigger them, it just inhibits their reuptake. Besides, speed is so much better, cheaper, and safer.
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>>71916405
You should come here to Colorado and pay my way through college .
Well talk politics and maybe make a board game called pegs and niggers.
It'll be great senpai.
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>>71926136
Well off maybe but he wasn't rich.
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>>71927372
Give me fat money
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>>71916062
More money only makes you more of what you were when you were poor.
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>>71916062
Yes. Every round of 5.56 I shoot brings a smile to my face. A smile is worth .30c
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If you are dumb person, yes.
If you're smart, probably.
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>>71916062
>Can money buy happiness?
Probably not true happiness and real fulfillment like friends and a purpose in life. But it certainly makes life a lot easier and enjoyable.
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>>71932576
/thread
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It's a big factor.
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>>71931099
CrippleChan has a suicide board, check out the cherry pit method I've been thinking about it. If you have steam I'd play some vidya with you, I wish I lived in Switzerland tbqh, seems like the best country.
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>>71916062
You can't legally drive wearing sandals
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>>71930921
maybe that's your problem. You have enough money to quit and you still think chasing that rabbit is going to satisfy you.

Before any existential/ behavioral changes have you got medically checked out with regards to depression?

With your amount of wealth you could do a variety of interesting and fulfilling things, you've worked out private jets, whores and fancy houses aren't the epitome of what that means for you and clearly if you are that depressed despite having all that money something needs to change.

There are sad trophy wives who never have to work a day in their life but need to self medicate and rely on material possessions and superiority to their peers for dopamine rushes, and NEETs who rely on the internet, porn, anime, trolling and eating junk to satisfy the lack of enjoyment in their life. Simply not working isn't the key to happiness.

Look up a list of hobbies, try 20 hobbies that sound interesting, try travelling, try things that don't require money, try things that involve normal people, try helping people (time volunteering rather than money).
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>>71932860
Yeah you can.
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>>71932745
Cherry pit?

Explain please.
Captcha : paradise beacon
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>>71916062
yes , it can .
everybody has a price.
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>>71926523
I'm guessing a couple of these are yours?
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>>71925001
But you have 3 million dollars, that changed
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>>71918835
a couple french fries. some rice, and a glass of apple juice.
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>>71933000
Go to cripplechan's suicide board for full explanation, but basically cherry pits have a small amount of a chemical that turns into cyanide when it reacts with your stomach acid.
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>>71916062
If I had money, I wouldn't have to be around Mexicans, so yes.
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>>71917070

Here's the money. Just don't touch my hand you filthy fucking pleb.
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>>71916405
Well i hope one finds you someday.
desu, if you're into women, find one who's true and you can consider your best friend.

Serenity always,
Anon.
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No.

You guys need to read the old Greeks and Romans.

What does money bring? Status, and things that bring more physical pleasure.
None of this brings happiness.

If you try to anchor your happiness on status, you are screwed. You will depend your entire life on what other people think, working all the time to please them. You will likely not be happy even with your high status. Most people that are super status conscious that I know are not very happy.

Physical pleasure is not really something that will make you happy either. It doesn't last very long, it tends to addict and you start building tolerance. Rockstars, PUAs, party girls tend to have a lot of pleasure. Not very happy folks, in the long run.

The old Greeks have better ways to achieve happiness than rockstars, Kardashians and Dan Bilzerians.
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>>71916494
>>71916685
Nice everclear ref.

too bad the song is cuck.
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>>71933765
Money doesnt just bring status u fucking spic. No wonder u wouldnt understand having money. If u had money u wouldnt have to worry about a lot of everyday shit and u can focus on urself
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>>71916062

Ofcourse, thats why rich famous people never commit suicide. :^)
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>>71933125

>Fat
Gross man
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>>71933765
Enough money means 1)you don't have to be a wagecuck 2) you can ethically have children that won't be wagecucks.
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>>71927022
Can you include me in the will?
That would make me happy.
At least you can make someone happy after you die.
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>>71928815
Money cannot buy common sense.

That asshole could buy magic neurotransmitter pills that elevate your mood and force you to be happy.

That's what we do in America.
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>>71933948
>>71934267

You can focus on being a better person with or without money, needing to work or not.

And Paris Hilton-style heirs usually are not super happy. That's one of the reasons why some billionaires try to donate a large part of their money.

Take a look at this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpx78eAait8

Do you really think those people are super happy? Would you like your kids, your grandkids to be like them?
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>>71927022
Save dosh
Quit job after investing and not buying highend bullshit you really don't need.
Commit to dope hobbies and bettering yourself, that includes getting rid of friends who use you.
Begin search for happiness, find it, die happy.
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>>71916062
Having money doesn't lead to happiness, but earning money does.
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>>71933367
Why wouldn't you just run a car in a closed garage? Your method sounds horrible.

Really you need stop obsessing over your depression. You get in the funk where you constantly say shit like, "I WANNA KILL MYSELF" at a certain point it becomes a bad habit.

I used to be this way, basically stop thinking about your problems and you'll find things are quite tolerable. Stop thinking about yourself generally.

Some people just want to be miserable, and the cliche is true that you have to want to be "happy." Longing for happiness is another issue here, as it's not sustainable. What you want to contentment, acceptance of all things.

As rich as this fuck is he should be able to find some hallucinogenic drugs. It actually works very well, lets you see the world in a different way. At the very least it takes your mind off things, which is necessary when living with depression.
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>>71916062
Yes, but it can't buy taste.
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I have a friend with a several million dollar inheritance and he is depressed as fuck and all he does is stay at home and read books.

Maybe being poor then becoming rich makes you happy.
But if you were rich all along, it doesn't make a difference.
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>>71934899
The Hiltons are absentee parents and put their children in overly unnatural situations.
Keep your family out of Hollywood, give them a normal level of livelihood so they don't get alienated from everyone who isn't super rich. Actually spend time with your children and raise them rather than focus on work.

Sure you can focus on all of that, but at the end of the day if you have to wake up at 7 o clock and come home at 6 every day then you will not be as happy as you would be otherwise. You do not have freedom to sleep in. You do not have freedom to go see a movie in the middle of the day, have sex with your wife in the middle of the day, play games all day, learn an instrument at a professional level. You look forward to the weekend for the freedom it offers.
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>>71927022
Read the old Greeks.

>>71935854
>The Hiltons are absentee parents and put their children in overly unnatural situations.
>Keep your family out of Hollywood, give them a normal level of livelihood so they don't get alienated from everyone who isn't super rich. Actually spend time with your children and raise them rather than focus on work.

It is more than just the Hiltons, and it is not about how close to normal people you are. It is about the focus of life.

>Sure you can focus on all of that, but at the end of the day if you have to wake up at 7 o clock and come home at 6 every day then you will not be as happy as you would be otherwise.

Cleanthes spent all his time working and studying philosophy. He was a happy man.

>You do not have freedom to sleep in. You do not have freedom to go see a movie in the middle of the day, have sex with your wife in the middle of the day, play games all day, learn an instrument at a professional level. You look forward to the weekend for the freedom it offers.

Do you think that will make you happy?
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>>71930921

well what is your work? maybe it's a bad hobby and you should find a new one. unless doing it makes you happy.
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>>71919766
>I will be happy without money
Try that sometime! Be too busy surviving to worry about states of mind.

>>71933765
Philosopher Kings
>Kings
Acquire wealth, live in material poverty but eat well and exercise. Be happy and profit?
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>>71918984
brush fires are fucking scary man
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>>71936563
You used hollywood morons detached from the real world and surrounded by like minded detached narcissists.
Focus is for the exceptional people, if you do not aim to be exceptional you do not need to focus your life in such an autistic way. Walking the path of the exceptional man is lonely and can very well be a fools errand for the majority who try. You can live a fulfilling life if you value human interraction, and enjoy life for what it is.

Cleanthes died of self imposed starvation after an Ulcer, doesn't sound very happy to me.
He struggled his entire life and is held up as the poster child of work ethic, doesn't sound like a life most people would be happy with, there is a developmental/ genetic component to this and you can't suddenly as an adult try to enjoy.
In fact Cleanthes sounds embittered and pathetic, pleasure is not worthless.

If I was rich enough to do what I want (within limits) then yes I would be happier than I am now, not that I am super unhappy now, I just dislike having to spend my waking hours at work during the week.
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>>71938489
Maybe you don't even need that.

>>71938776
>You used hollywood morons detached from the real world and surrounded by like minded detached narcissists. Focus is for the exceptional people, if you do not aim to be exceptional you do not need to focus your life in such an autistic way. Walking the path of the exceptional man is lonely and can very well be a fools errand for the majority who try. You can live a fulfilling life if you value human interraction, and enjoy life for what it is.

There are plenty of rich people, outside of Hollywood that also live unhappy lives. I don't know many idle heirs that are happy.

>Cleanthes died of self imposed starvation after an Ulcer, doesn't sound very happy to me.

Not caring about death either way is probably one of the requirements for happiness in the long run.

>He struggled his entire life and is held up as the poster child of work ethic, doesn't sound like a life most people would be happy with, there is a developmental/ genetic component to this and you can't suddenly as an adult try to enjoy. In fact Cleanthes sounds embittered and pathetic, pleasure is not worthless.

Cleanthes was a happy man. Also, it is not developmental/genetic, but rather wisdom. Cleanthes was a very wise man, wiser than the super genius disciple of his.

>If I was rich enough to do what I want (within limits) then yes I would be happier than I am now, not that I am super unhappy now, I just dislike having to spend my waking hours at work during the week.

You would likely be happier with a different mindset than if you inherited a fortune.
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Anyway, one of my favorite quotes is that by Abd-ar-Rahman III:


>I have now reigned above fifty years in victory or peace; beloved by my subjects, dreaded by my enemies, and respected by my allies. Riches and honours, power and pleasure, have waited on my call, nor does any earthly blessing appear to have been wanting to my felicity. In this situation, I have diligently numbered the days of pure and genuine happiness which have fallen to my lot: they amount to Fourteen: - O man! place not thy confidence in this present world!
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>>71926136
couldnt even get into the sorority house with a gun
>knock knock
>uhhh o-open u-up the d-d-door please
>who is it stacy? some manlet? just ignore him he'll go away

this guy is such an amazing failure
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>>71916062
No but it can buy ferraris

I've never seen someone sad in a ferrari
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hahah best photoshop yet
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>>71916062
happy =/= satisfied
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