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What is /pol/'s stance on Anarchism?
>>71890307
edgy
>ancap
pretty based
>ancom
absolute retard tier
>>71890307
It's stupid as fuck. Have you ever tried debating an anarchist? You'd have a more productive discussion with someone who has sever down syndrome.
I never saw it as possible because
1. We are in a universe in motion, how are you automatically going to get everyone on the same page, to follow ethical principles, without any type of backlash
2. Higher ups using the vacuum in an anarchal situation to get their own power
>>71890307
edgy 13 year olds
Have fun living in a constant fight-or-flight response.
If you want a taste of it, go live in Somalia or the outskirts of Rio. Tell me how it went.
>>71890375
>anarchy
>capitalism
pick one kangarniger
It's a meme ideology
>>71890307
it would be ok but reality would hit after a little while and we'd go back to the same shit eventually
>>71890307
funny enough anarchists tend to be the kind of people who would die first should actual anarchy happen
in short, it's something for highschool burnouts and college rejects
What's to stop me from joining up with the strongest people to take from the weakest? Nothing? That's why anarchism is shit.
More retarded than communism, and most likely libertarianism's autistic little brother.
>>71890375
like any of this exists in yr containment country
>>71891266
>>71891198
>>71891175
>>71891146
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution_of_1936
In Spain during almost three years, despite a civil war that took a million lives, despite the opposition of the political parties (republicans, left and right Catalan separatists, socialists, Communists, Basque and Valencian regionalists, petty bourgeoisie, etc.), this idea of libertarian communism was put into effect. Very quickly more than 60% of the land was collectively cultivated by the peasants themselves, without landlords, without bosses, and without instituting capitalist competition to spur production. In almost all the industries, factories, mills, workshops, transportation services, public services, and utilities, the rank and file workers, their revolutionary committees, and their syndicates reorganized and administered production, distribution, and public services without capitalists, high salaried managers, or the authority of the state.
Even more: the various agrarian and industrial collectives immediately instituted economic equality in accordance with the essential principle of communism, 'From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs.' They coordinated their efforts through free association in whole regions, created new wealth, increased production (especially in agriculture), built more schools, and bettered public services. They instituted not bourgeois formal democracy but genuine grass roots functional libertarian democracy, where each individual participated directly in the revolutionary reorganization of social life. They replaced the war between men, 'survival of the fittest,' by the universal practice of mutual aid, and replaced rivalry by the principle of solidarity....
This experience, in which about eight million people directly or indirectly participated, opened a new way of life to those who sought an alternative to anti-social capitalism on the one hand, and totalitarian state bogus socialism on the other.[3]
>>71890307
I'm sure you'll fine with no schools, roads, doctors, food, gas, power, ect, ect...
Stupid little cunt
I'm fine with no gods. Globalization keeps happening whether or not we like it, for better or worse. But no government at all is just dumb.
>Oh but we will build the roads together, put out fires together, etc.
Good luck when the average person is lazy and selfish.
>>71890307
Watch "Radical Agenda", Christopher Cantwell's podcast. Really fucking good. There are basically 3 kinds of anarchists
>Smash the State: Just want anarchism
>Anarcho-Communist/Socialist/Syndicalist (Chomsky): As laughable as it sounds
>Anarcho-Capitalist: MisesInstitute. Cantwell. Hans Hoppe. Rothbard. Pretty much the Ultimate Redpill
>>71890307
Yeah OP, I was into it too after watching Sons of Anarchy
>>71890307
It's an unenforceable transition state.
theoretical: Anarchy reigns where I am. I want to organize with some other people. What are you going to do to stop me? Organize an opposition?
>>71890307
>>71891146
>rich first world suburbanite pussy whitebois who want anarchy
'errytime.
at what age did you grow out of anarchism /pol/? i was 6
>>71890307
Degenerates with bad parents
>>71891812
Anarchism will likely never be attained. The best we can hope for is that at some point in the future all countries have different Republican/Minarchist forms of governments and that different entities decide to dissolve. It would be plausible that a small country such as Iceland or Denmark could dissolve a minarchist government.
First we need to eliminate leftism, make nuclear arms trivial, break down large states/federations, experience a general transition to right-wing/conservative populace, and experience global shift towards minarchist/secessionist/localized government. And then we can have Anarchy. So never. Still a good idea
>>71890307
Go to the Congo and report back.
>>71891919
>implying Mexico doesn't already live a state of anarchy
>>71891058
Enough leaf, go to bed
>>71891483
What brought it to an end? Exactly.
Various forms of anarchy can exist, but it only exists until a strongman fills the power vacuum. Such people will always exist and will always find support. Anarchy provides no effective opposition.
I don't trust the people any more than I trust the government.
We already live in anarchy.
You're just assmad that rveryone is free...
...to be retarded.
Can only work in small groups with monolithic ethnic, cultural, and ideological societies.
Also, enjoy living in the bronze age, iron at best.
>>71890307
It becomes a problem when the anarchist asks/takes/feel entitled to gibmedats because he, being the antisocial retard he is, can't function on his own.
>>71890307
>What is /pol/'s stance on Anarchism?
The faction you pick in Fallout
>>71890307
>>71890375
>>71891633
>>71892454
*tips fedora*
*inhales vape pen*
*masturbates to anime*
*cries loudly*
Reporting in.
>>71890307
>What is /pol/'s stance on Anarchism?
It's something that sounds nice that we can never have, because we can't have nice things in this world.
Sure, I'd love to live in a free non-violent peaceful co-existence with all other people where we show each other nothing but respect.
But this is the reality of it: >>71892204
>>71890375
>Ancap
>Good
It's literally lelbergtarianism except even more retarded
>>71890307
Anarchy is a transitory stage between Governments. Anarchists are delusion idiots who think that a power vacuum is sustainable.
>>71890307
should include NO CIVILIZATION on that image
no roads
no hospitals
no runnng water
no petrol
no police
no power
no mass transport of food/goods/etc
no manufactured medicine
...
not seriously considered by anyone over the age of 16 unless they have brain damage.
>>71890307
Christianity is pretty good for our masses, despite being pretty silly
Stupid. Hierarchy develops naturally, borders denote property, gods aren't required for anything, and masters are your betters that you ought to learn from.
>>71890307
Deluded fantasies of the angsty teens and the brain dead
>>71890307
basically Africa?
Only if I get all the adam
Anarchists want what children want; unlimited freedom with no responsibility.
>>71890307
>Posts on /pol/
god dam i really hate Anarchists more than i hate niggers.
>>71900062
This desu
>>71890307
Go die in a fire you leftist scum.
>>71892985
What does it mean if you went with based ceasar?
>>71890307
I'm all for it. I have a shit load of guns and a bunker. Let's do this shit
>>71890307
ancaps are ok, but you still need a minimal government to keep your neighbors and the international commie jew in check
>>71890307
I will only discus with your leader.
Basically "JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP", the political movement.
>>71890307
several differnt kinds
none work if people don't want to play by the rules
>>71890307
NO MORALS
NO MERCY
NO SENSE
Anarchism can't work because alphas will always try to organize the rabble into a a gang (tribe of sorts) which will progress into a society with some form of shitty government, like despotism. Anarchy by human nature doesn't last, despite how much many of us betas would like it to
Anarchism is good in theory, but mans ambitions ruins it. Anarchism is not possible.
>>71890307
I used to like it, when I was 12.
Anarchism aka. "If only every single other person in the world would behave as I do" is not my ideology. It's freedom and survival of the emergent fittest, not anarchy police and best wishes ok? Inanna bless you.
>>71899944
Gods are required, that's why almost all humans who ever lived believed in them. I believe they can be important as a moral framework, bond society and help psychologically.
>>71890307
Would get conquered in a week
>>71903789
And now you Love it?
>>71903641
nice platitude
but its not an argument
if it were, it would apply to the state much more than the absence of one
>>71890307
Its Zionism disguised as something else.
>>71890307
>NO MASTERS
What about bachelors, is that still ok?
>>71904862
>Its Zionism disguised as something else.
What isn't?
>>71896812
>Sure, I'd love to live in a free non-violent peaceful co-existence with all other people where we show each other nothing but respect.
this is the *opposite* of anarchy. you think biker gangs and such would leave you alone in an anarchistic society? you would end up paying tribute, i.e. taxes.
and boom. you are now in a society again.
>>71891939
20 and still going. am i retarded? :(
>>71890307
It's dumb and unmanageable, and by the nature of humans it will fall out of use as leaders are de facto (and eventually de jure) chosen
>Why can't mom and dad just leave me alone?
The idology.
>>71896272
How does your ideology make it right to violently take other people's shit?
>>71890307
Anarchy will always fall into corporatism so yes its degenerate. You wont be able to shitpost here on /pol/ bcoz you will work in the fields instead
>>71899660
>Went to take a walk.
>See Obama fixing the pot holes.
>Realize we can't indeed exist without a government.
>>71905335
>go on a walk
>see citizens with no prompting fixing a pothole for free
>realize we can indeed have Anarchy
>and that I'm on the set of Parks &Recreation
>>71890307
It's a rolyplaying fantasy for 99% of those who call themselves anarchists.
In the west it is one of a broad church of alignments that have in common disdain for white males and traditional western values and culture.
>inb4 spookposting
>>71905510
Well I've decided that roads are for shit people, so I've set out to destroy your roads.
>>71890307
It's for 14 year old kids who don't have a job and can't go to jail.
>>71890307
Absolutely retarded ideology for edgy teenagers. Even a 5 year old can poke holes in your ideology.
>>71890307
> i`d destroy my country culture and live free yay
> omg all this shitskins and plain niggers under anglo command are storming in, making us into banana republic, killing all the educated peoples and taking all the wealths
> now i`m an engineer, but they do not feed me and do not give me jobs - they are so dumb
> if only trotzky would make his permanent revolution instead of this
>>71890307
Nice for 14 year old faggots
>>71905510
why should anyone work for free?
>>71891058
Actually using term "capitalism" outside of socialist theory is more retarded, than ancap.
>>71906104
Because you owe Russians 270 trillion dollars. And this is only for the last 10 years of USSR.
>>71906097
>(ID: hqsFUCkT)
mirin
>>71891058
Capitalism is the only kind of economics possible in true Anarchy. No government or law means socialism and communism are impossible.
>>71890307
Don't tell me what to do, your not the boss of me.
>>71906220
Nuke yourself, Dimitri. Communism turned the shithole of a Russian Empire into a more of a shithole. If anything, you owe us 6 gazillion rubles.
>>71906377
You was part of communism, we where and we are the fundament of the pyramid, as still give you dirt-cheap resources, while you drink window washer.
Give Narva with other Russian territories and 270 trillions back. I`m not even charging you interest here.
>>71890307
babby's first political ideology
>>71906296
/thread.
Just an angsty muh feels ideology.
>>71906550
>Implying we had a say when a country 20000 times the area and 300 times the population decides to occupy us.
>Implying Russia isn't still occupying some of Estonian land
>>71906220
Gee 270 trillion Dorra?!
For what?
>>71906259
Dis. Pisses me of when lefties try to tell me that communism is no state, no money. If there's no state what stops me taking your personal property and turning it into my private property?
>>71890307
Gay
Meme ideology for edgy children. Anyone with actual life experience knows how retarded anarchism is.
>>71890307
Infantile
>>71890307
That conformist symbol is a slap to the face of the whole idea of anarchism.
>>71891483
It's all fine and dandy until Big Bad Immortan Joe decides he wants to take your shit.
Is anyone else here a national anarchist?
>>71890307
Wouldn't "anarchism discussion" be an oxymoron. I mean, I'll just meow like a cat and beat off while huffing paint and type gibberish. That's my take on an anarchy discussion.
>>71890307
>no borders
no thanks famalam
