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How come the Americans lost this war?
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With Valkyries and based Rolling Stones tracks, victory should've been easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJDnJ0vXUgw
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>it ain't me
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because americans are shit at fighting


don't get mad at my bantz americans
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>How come the Americans lost this war?
Pathetic people, pathetic army.
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America had a great K/D ratio in the Vietnam war, it's the politicians and idiot hippies that are responsible for defeat.
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>>71862271

CYKA BLYAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo5ZVe1LHxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLMTMK-mp7w
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>>71862078
Political decisions to make peace. America could have stayed and held the communist off. Could have been like North Korea South Korea Marilyn Monroe.
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>it aint me begins playing
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>>71862078
Civilians and the press basically. The Tet offensive was a basically massive military failure on the part of the VC and North Vietnam but it make the American people feel icky.
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>>71862078
It was never meant to be won. It was a testing ground for new weapons, and a way to get rid of certain elements of society.
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I remember Vietnam. Me and buds were completely rekting gooks left and right. This one time we were on a river boat and it was like fucking Armageddon. We were blasting Gimme Shelter while destroying those stupid fucking gooks. Lost a few good men that day, but you do what you gotta do.
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>>71862078
they won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqYGHZCJwk
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>>71862078

But the US won. Pic related.

Just kidding. There are some arguments that the war stopped the spread of communism in that part of the world but that is not worth the cost of the war.

The only true successful American way of fighting communism is to sponsor local right-wing death squads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AiMGTRV2LY
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I want Rising Storm 2 right now I need my vietnam fix
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>not "Fortunate Son"
Seriously, this is THE song of the Vietnam war. There is no potential for debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM
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>>71862078

>America
>lost Vietnam

You stupid leaf.
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>>71862078

You cannot win against a guerrilha unless you start genociding the local people.
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>>71862807
>Canada is only at 68%
I fucking hate those liberal weenie cunts.
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>>71862078

>Epic American lost Vietnam meme
>It's a "He doesn't know about the Paris Accords" episode.
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>>71862684
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>>71862901
>not "Fortunate Son"
You mean "It Aint Me"?
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You can't bomb government into functionality.
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>>71863075
Worked on Japan
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>>71862078
Media, fatigue/hippies at home, forced to fight with hands tied behind their backs, pick any.
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>>71863053
I see what you did there.
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>>71863075
but you can bomb goverments into the grave
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Well let's see.

We killed 3,000,000 gooks, they only took out 50,000 of us.

I count that as a victory but the gooks just wouldnt take democracy.
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>>71862923
Yes you can, counter-guerilla forces. Haven't you ever seen Apocalypse Now?
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>>71863117

God bless the wicked Japanese
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>>71862807
>>71862998

Also Russia being more anti-US than Lebanon and Palestine. That is just ridiculous.
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>>71863172

War isn't a videogame, you don't win by getting X score.
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>>71863286
What do you expect from state media controlled cucks?
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>lost

We killed millions of them during the war and beat them militarily and last I check there are McD's and other glorious american restaurants and businesses in Vietnam and we're STILL killing them thanks to Agent Orange and unexploded ordinance.

Sounds like a win to me Leaf
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One thing i never understood was why Vietnam vets are proud of serving. It's the one war we lost the fuck you proud of? Being a lackey for LBJ and Nixon? Shet.
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>>71862775
(((Prager University)))
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>>71863408
check out >>71862775
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>>71863027

Literally surrendered.
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>>71863408

Again, war isn't a kill ratio contest. Unless you made your opponent agree to your political terms or enforced them yourself you didn't win.
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>>71862155
Didn't keep us from beating you twice.
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>>71862078
Did they lose though?

I would say that it sent a damn strong message to Russia and China that the US would not stand for communist aggression and expansion.

Could have been fought differently, but I still think America had some real balls.
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>>71863318

Lebanon probably does have a more free media than Russia.
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>>71863612

god dammit muh paint skills
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>>71863117
That's bombing the government to pieces and replacing it with one of your own. Something the US was unwilling to do.

>>71863135
You still need to bomb the correct government. Winning through that method would have required bombing China, or nukes.
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>>71862315
>idiot hippies

Yeah why don't you go off to a jungle to kill people then. Are you like 18 years old? I hope you are not an adult because your jingoistic attitude would otherwise be really silly.
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>>71863716
not to mention Putin blaming America 24/7 for this shit economy and the russian cunts laping that shit up like facts
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>>71862807
>Muslims
>Krauts
>lolrussia
Feels good.
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>>71863841
actually, you just need to bomb the north Vietnamese government into submission. watch >>71862775
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>>71862775

>ID: AMFAGt7s
>Am faggot
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Never forget the Australians and New Zealanders who fought with the US and South Vietnamese. They never get recognition. They US won by the way, but they couldn't have done it without those guys.
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>>71862775
>Israel
>Telling the truth
lol
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>>71864083
did you watch the video?
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Jews intellectuals (+ white liberals + fuckhead hippies ) lost that war after we won it. The fifth column at its worst...or best from their sick opinion.
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>>71863455
Must have been hell fighting those soulless commie gook simpletons though, all the while knowing it's basically for wallstreet and your jew overlords.
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>>71862078
we quit
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>>71864159
Wouldn't bother with it my Jewish friend.
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Also the Stones were based as hell.
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>>71863680
See
>>71863528
As Greatest Ally has pointed out, we got them to agree to our terms but we got stabbed in the back by the Democrats
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>>71864251
>Americans
>to lazy to watch a video
remember the good old days when people were considered lazy for watching the movie instead of reading the book?
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>>71863881
>Jewish backstabbing on the homefront makes no difference in the outcome of a war or the morale of troops

*tips baseball cap*
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>>71863455

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkY5-3EhD-k
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>Nigger soldiers
>Everyone is on heroin
>Everyone is a hippie bitch
>b-b-but we can't firebomb the cities....
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>>71864251
you're a fucking idiot, even though Prager University is the reason why you should not trust his source, though they are right on this one, you are a low time preference anti Israel meme man
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>>71864251
It's about op linebacker and the Vietcong attending the Paris Peace talks as a result. And then Nixon fucking everything up. Basically we "won," but didn't have the political will to follow through with it.
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>>71863971

The world is less anti-American than reddit and tumblr claims.
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>>71862901


Gimme me Shelter is less fedora sounding tbqh
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>>71864347

If they agreed but didn't enforce them the war goes won. The war doesn't end when the opponent says 'I surrender', the war ends when the demands are enforced: be it by their will (them accepting and abiding) or by force (the enemy taking control and enforcing them themselves).
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>>71864379
Most Americans know everything from the video. We learn it in Jr high and usually again in high school. So, if people don't agree with you they have other reasons (usually libs or uneducated)
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>>71864490
>Basically we "won," but didn't have the political will to follow through with it.
Not having the will to follow through politically is the same as losing, why do you think propaganda plays such a big part in wars?

Anyone can claim one would win if it weren't for this one reason or another.
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>>71863318
>cucks
you have a literal nigger as president
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>>71862775
goddamn democrats
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>>71862078
because liberals and hippies and fags got in the way JUST LIKE ISIS

>Be giving the south Vietnam support, supplies weapons and shit to fight the commie north
>hippies liberals and fags say "PEACE LOVE MAN XDD MAKE LOVE NOT WAR MAN DUDE WEEEED"
>Presidents and Politicians are now more worries about PR
>Pull all of our shit out of the south Vietnam
>Evil gommie gooks attack and take over the whole country
>Shit now we have to fucking fight a war, but yet be politically correct about it

>No Nukes, No battle Ships, no WMDs, we have to be fair and humane! XD

Obama did the same shit in the mid east and look we have isis. its only a matter of time ladies and gents before Vietnam 2
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>>71864586
Our news and political figures tell us it's a one way affection as well. It's an emotional argument against any conservative position.
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>>71864755
Lack of political will. At least we learned our lesson. Oh wait no we didn't- Iraq.
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http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_3267C58E4C104A54A0AFDF230D618AE6
Educate yourself. The government got Ho on their side in 1945 but they rather wanted to suck French dick and fucked up the region.
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>>71864815
That's why I put "won" in quotes. I agree with you. You can't force your opponent to bend to your will if you don't have any yourself.
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>>71865072

Will is one of the most important things in war. Sadly you didn't had it to win the war and Vietnam got stuck under communism for years.
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>>71865274
Ah, my bad, haven't gotten enough sleep as I was woken up just as I'd fallen asleep last night by my neighbors screaming something in arabic and hitting his wife and kid until 2-3 families from across the street came over and I thought they were gonna break it up but they took the mans side kek.
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>>71864472
>>71864379
Stay mad
>>71864490
I actually watched the video and I'm glad you provided a well-educated response.
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>>71863692
Don't forget saving them twice, either!
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>>71863692

Thrice. You mean thrice.

There was that whole "war of 1812" think you ditch digging lackwit.
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>>71862078
Something about Vietnam being a "war", but the politicians didn't want to blockade, invade, and capture the capital of North Vietnam. It's literally America's meme war
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