Just because there's a black Democratic president?
>>71831755
>only showing the 2008 depression
Show the the rest of that chart OP
>>71832790
How would that reflect Obama's jobs record?
>>71832790
this
>>71833369
It would show if he has managed to increase private sector jobs to what they were at least prior to the house market bubble crash
>>71831755
No, No, No
Fuck right off you dirty leaf
Every FUCKING DAY
YOU POST THIS
EVERY FUCKING DAY
YOU GET REFUTED
NO
S T O P
How have they not banned you permanently by now
>>71833442
I don't even think you understand what you're looking at. This is a chart of monthly job creation. You can't go back to anything. Every month it's either up or down.
President Obama has one of the best jobs record in American history. Over 14.4 million private sector jobs created and the longest job creation streak (73 months and counting) in American history.
If your only comment is that Republicans destroy the economy and Democrats fix it, I agree with you.
>>71833524
1. I haven't posted this thread in weeks. Show me the last time I posted this thread with this chart.
2. I haven't been refuted once.
3. Why should I be banned for posting facts? Typical cuckservative. Wants to ban facts he doesn't like.
>>71833589
But what about before then :p
Why not show us the shit before
>OP posts in /pol/
>still thinks presidents control job sector growth
>can't name any policy that actually impacted job sector growth
>has learned nothing from being here
OP, perhaps it's time you should go. You seem to be wasting everyone's time here.
Changing how the unemployment rates are calculated, counting part time jobs as jobs, not showing the full time jobs lost to make those part time jobs, and being a cucked leaf
>>71833927
Because that was on George Bush. And also because Bush didn't put out charts like this because his jobs record was a total disaster. The worst since Hoover.
>>71834135
>can't name any policy that actually impacted job sector growth
wew lad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009
President Obama has frequently stated that his greatest accomplishment was averting another Republican Great Depression.
>>71834291
>Changing how the unemployment rates are calculated
You know this is a right wing myth right?
Also, 95% of Obama job creation has been full time.
>>71831755
Trump has created more actual jobs with his hat factories than Obama has created in 8 years of presidency.
Obama doesn't have any policies that create jobs of note except bullshit government jobs like "first transgender brown person in the white house for no reason!"
>>71834291
also this, they created more part time jobs and less full time. He lies about unemployment being down, and then ironically brags about more people being on welfare/food stamps than ever before.
Which is it, is unemployment down or are people living off the government dole? We all know its the latter. We live here, we fucking see it. Only stupid Leafs believe faulty statistics approved by Obama himself.
>>71831755
>that subject
have you stopped beating your wife?
DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS LEAF POSTS THE SAME EXACT THREAD 5 TIMES PER WEEK WITH THE SAME PICTURE
DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS LEAF POSTS THE SAME EXACT THREAD 5 TIMES PER WEEK WITH THE SAME PICTURE
DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS LEAF POSTS THE SAME EXACT THREAD 5 TIMES PER WEEK WITH THE SAME PICTURE
DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS LEAF POSTS THE SAME EXACT THREAD 5 TIMES PER WEEK WITH THE SAME PICTURE
DAILY REMINDER THAT THIS LEAF POSTS THE SAME EXACT THREAD 5 TIMES PER WEEK WITH THE SAME PICTURE
>UNIRONICALLY USING "TRUMPTARD"
>>71834856
nope, at the beginning of his presidency, Obama changed the calculation to exclude people that are no longer actively looking for a job. They post the formula mane.
>>71835162
Source? Oh that's right you don't have one. You just pull this shit out of your ass.
>>71834709
Bush didn't need to produce jobs since he was already at 5% unemployment.
>2. I haven't been refuted once.
Because you're in denial. You're clearly a disinfo shill. Obama is shit at economics. What you're looking at is the republicans and the fed's work.
>>71834783
It failed to come even close to what he said it would do. It was a failure.
>>71833665
>1. I haven't posted this thread in weeks. Show me the last time I posted this thread with this chart.
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/71831755/#71831755
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/71696561/#71696561
Fri 22 Apr 2016
Sat 23 Apr 2016
HERE YOU GO FAGGOT
YOU'RE THE ONLY FUCKING FAGGOT WHO USES THE WORD TRUMPTARD
THEREFORE I CAN JUST SEARCH FOR YOUR RETARDED FUCKING THREADS ON 4PLEBS
NOW KILL YOURSELF YOU SCHIZOPHRENIC LEAF JOBLESS FAGGOT
>>71835116
Got proof that I posted this thread 5 times this week? NOPE. That's what I thought.
>>71833442
Rednecks everyone.
>>71835384
>Bush didn't need to produce jobs since he was already at 5% unemployment.
Actually Bill Clinton left Bush 3.9% unemployment. But Bush still managed to completely fuck everything up and leave behind the worst crash since the Republican Great Depression.
>Because you're in denial. You're clearly a disinfo shill.
How is posting a factual chart of Obama job creation disinformation?
>. What you're looking at is the republicans and the fed's work.
Republicans promised me Obamacare was a job killer. Instead we've had 73 straight months of Obama job creation since it passed. The longest streak in American history.
>>71835395
Kid just cashed in his neetbux and wanted to rustle some jimmies with his autistic shit post template for the 1000x time.
>>71835395
Actually that one is from Thursday and it's a dead thread. And other than today's and Thursday's? When was the last time I posted this thread?
>>71835162
Holy shit this denial. Im about 99% sure you're on some medication for a mental illness.
>>71835514
Conservative exceptionalism.
>>71835665
> autistic
The irony
>>71835665
Let's be honest. It's unemployable, retarded Trumpfags that are dragging down the labor force participation rate.
>>71835745
He should be.
>>71835745
>>71835893
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/19/unemployment-rate-wrong_n_3619152.html
a trusted news source for you...what is google
A
>>71836342
That's not proof that Obama changed the way unemployment rate is calculated.
This is proof that you're mentally handicapped.
The U3 unemployment rate has been the official unemployment rate for decades. It was never controversial until a black Democrat became president.
On top of this, the BLS also publishes U4, U5, and U6 unemployment rates for decades.
PROTIP: They've all plummeted under President Obama. Pic related.
So you admit you have ZERO proof that Obama changed the way unemployment rate is calculated and that you're so stupid that you believed a right wing lie for 7 years.
>>71831755
>that one canuck who constantly shills for obama
>>71835864
Lets me honest. It's trump hater tards that are why Canada has a low IQ
>>71836661
Pleased to trigger you with facts.
>>71836572
How much is soros paying you?
>>71836572
graphs everyone...can't lie with those.
fine, they use formulas based off this doc.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1995/10/art3full.pdf
>>71834783
>the stimulus package
HAHAHAHA holy shit that literally did nothing.
>>71836723
I get to fuck that hot latina chick as my payment. Worth it.
>>71836809
>1995
wew lad
>>71836947
Other than prevent another Republican Great Depression, ya totally nothing.
>>71836711
It's not hard to look good when you begin in a massive recession
>>71837195
How kind of George Bush to leave Obama the worst economic crisis since the Republican Great Depression.
>>71837058
>Republican Great Depression
Yup, ignore the role the Federal Reserve was created to play that they refused to play. 10/10 for getting me to reply to a LEAF thread. Can't wait to annex you and sex your few hotties.
>>71837019
Don't care to find the current one.
>>71837364
>Can't wait to annex you and sex your few hotties.
Good luck losing your virginity.
>>71837277
That had nothing to do with George Bush, and personally I think Bush was one of the worst presidents ever. It would have happened under any president
>>71837437
Shut up GBIDF.
>>71831755
CONGRESS
CONTROLS
TAX
N
SPENDING
>>71837516
t.15 year old liberal
>>71837517
Yeah the Republicans were really helpful when they tried to crash the US economy just to make Obama look bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_debt-ceiling_crisis_of_2011
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_debt-ceiling_crisis_of_2013
>>71831755
You do know Intel's gotten on board and is laying off 20,000 people to hire more H1-B Obama people, don't you?
2/3 of all new jobs created since Obama took office have gone to foreign-born people, and Obama's literally driving the American out of the American economy. Our poverty class is growing, the middle class is shrinking hard, and the government's unemployment numbers are nothing but a total fucking lie.
Trump won't destroy America by telling the shitskins to fuck off; to the opposite he'll restore value of the labor of an American worker and make it better.
And most of those jobs are fucking seasonal jobs as theme parks and other tourist-related places begin their seasonal hiring. They're not real fucking jobs that last, and most of them are part-time to allow employers to avoid the high Obamacare costs.
>>71837698
oy vey the goyim know!
SLIDE IT!
>>71833589
Well there has been a rapid Increase in shit tier jobs. The days where there were decent paying jobs available to the masses are gone.
Sure alot of $7.5 McDonalds jobs are popping up but ...
>>71837734
you can thank republicans allowing corporate buyouts of politics to allow all of this
Why is anyone still posting in this thread?
Why are you not using sage?
Why do you care what a leaf, says about America politics?
When you know he's been beaten and proved wrong, almost evey day of the week, AND SOMEONE POSTED THE ARCHIVES to prove it; why are you still arguing with this maplecuck?
I swear this place gets more like /b/ every day.
Have some fucking integrity. Fucks sake at least learn to sage.
>>71837850
Actually there's tons of great paying jobs but you need to actually have skills. Trumptards don't have skills.
>>71837717
They didn't try to crash the economy. It's Obama who didn't compromise because he wants it all his way or he fucks everything up. You either do what Obama says, or he stops everything and makes the people suffer until he gets his way. He's basically the Presidential equivalent of a terrorist.
He even caused a government shutdown over a budget bill that had included him and his party losing their exemptions to Obamacare.
And with poverty only growing in America, where the fuck did that going from $8 trillion to $19 trillion (closer to $70 trillion when adding in state debt and derivatives) go? Look next door to see Achmed and those Africans and Mexicans having every last fucking thing provided for them.
>>71838013
Thanks for admitting you have no rebuttals.
>>71838049
>It's Obama who didn't compromise
Wow you're just spouting right wing talking points. You're a fucking parrot.
You know Reagan had 18 debt ceiling increases right?
Republicans are the only party to threaten to default on the US debt by not increasing the debt ceiling.
>>71838049
>where the fuck did that going from $8 trillion
>being this fucking retarded
Thinks the US national debt was $8T when Obama took office.
You realize you're a fucking moron right?
>>71837918
Really? This is all happening on the watch and encouragement from leftists and you still find a way to twist it to blame republicans?
Leftist politicians are every bit the "make the rich richer while the poor poorer" people they claim republicans are. And every time we're talking about H1-B visas, illegal immigrants, and allt he Obama-people from Africa and the middle east, there's always Jews and leftists like Bob Iger, Mark Zuckerberg, George Soros, and Bill Gates right in the fucking middle of it.
>>71831755
>what are part time jobs
>>71838049
>i posted it again
>>71838226
Reagan didn't take our national debt from $8 trillion to over $19 trillion, did he?
What he spent was barely anything in comparison to Obama.
>>71838087
I've made them all before.
You post occupy democrats as fact, and ignore most people who prove you wrong.
You make this thread every day, get proven wrong every day. I'm off to have intelligent conversation. No need to waste any more time on trying to teach economics to a tree.
>>71838304
>it was real in my mind
>>71833589
Except most of those jobs added are shitty part time. You can't exactly have a financially secure country full of 40 year old part-timers....
The unemployment rate is bullshit because they just stop counting people after a while.
>>71835644
>Republican Great Depression
You mean the one from the policies that Clinton created?
>>71838391
>Reagan didn't take our national debt from $8 trillion to over $19 trillion
Nobody did that.
Actually Reagan has the worst record on the national debt in the modern era.
REAGAN TRIPLED THE NATIONAL DEBT.
If Obama was as bad on the national debt as Reagan, it would be $30 TRILLION right now.
Bureau of labor statistics threshold for "full time emplyment" is 20 hours a week.
Maple nigger dropping shit tier faggotry again.
>>71838410
>You make this thread every day, get proven wrong every day
False. Admit you're a moron and a liar.
>You post occupy democrats as fact, and ignore most people who prove you wrong.
I haven't posted one Occupy Democrats post here.
>and ignore most people who prove you wrong.
This is what you do every time. I reply to as many posts as I can, I get criticized for having like 50 replies, and then you find one that I missed, that I didn't reply to and you claim that one proved me wrong. Even when if it's the most retarded post that doesn't even make sense.
There's too much shit posting in this thread
>>71831755
I know that leaf.
America is evil place, I hope it falls down
>>71838575
Wow thanks for this chart. This shows that nearly the entire increase in the 14.4 MILLION Obama economy jobs have been FULL TIME.
Thanks for this chart I'm saving it.
+more since I screencapped
give it up man
>>71837717
>they tried to crash the US economy just to make Obama look bad.
Now that's what I call a conspiracy theory
>>71838575
What a fucking nonsensical graph. The red and blue lines are mirror images and have different scales. They could have made them cross anywhere. Plus, there's less than a 4 percentage point difference between the highest and lowest values.
>>71838786
>Obama says all companies will have to provide health insurance to their full time employees
>wins the election so companies switch employees to part time (granted the recession did play a part)
>As companies adjust to the changes the rates begin to return to normal
A reminder that wage growth has been flat because total compensation has gone up
>>71839413
What do you call threatening to default on the US debt and crash the US dollar?
>>71831755
The jobs are going to immigrants
http://www.vdare.com/articles/national-data-march-jobs-immigrant-displacement-of-americans-workers-hits-all-time-high
>>71831755
I told you they didn't want a black Democratic president. He was elected anyway. What's to come is, once again, not our fault.
>>71836572
>change definition for unemployment
>unemployment rate changes
Holy shit, it's like magic!
Oh sweet Jesus, it's this guy again. Posts on 4chan every week believing people will care about his opinion on a nigger.
>>71831755
Because sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you realize you need help. American manufacturing is at a low, were outsourcing jobs and importing poo loos for cheap contracting work. Citizens are moraleless and degenerate. The pendulum has swung far left, which means it's gonna sky rocket to the right soon before it evens out again. Our time is coming.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/THXOBAMA14.4millionjobs/
30 posts by this id to top it all, either it's autism or someone's paying you pretty well
>>71839640
>>change definition for unemployment
Source? Oh that's right you don't have one. You're just repeating a right wing lie because you're an idiot.
>>71836342
>Fluffpo
>trusted
>>71831755
>2008
Can't you read dates?
>>71831755
>>71839866
Trusted by libtards like the OP
>>71839976
>new jobs
>obama recovery
when will this meme end?
Probably in a few months...
>>71839501
companies switched to part time long before he ever go in office
and total compensation has gone way down along with stagnant wages
>>71838038
>Cherry picking this fucking hard
>>71831755
>what is regression to the mean?
The economy is still terrible. You can cook the numbers any way you want, but the vast majority of the jobs added are shit tier.
>>71831755
Go away leaf. That graph is a lie.
>>71840264
That graph is not a lie, its just very very misleading.
>>71840055
>thinks Obama was president in 2007
>being this fucking retarded
>>71840000
I am a socialist man, look at my flag, and even I know not to touch huffpo.
>>71839775
>every single one of those is from A FUCKING LEAF
>>71840176
Trumptards are mad because they don't get paid $100k per year to flip burgers so they stay as NEETs in their mothers basements.
>>71840365
>>71840264
>A chart of job creation during Barack Hussein Obama's presidency is misleading.
wew lad
>>71839976
>>71840566
>Defends his chart.
>Ignores chart proving that, while Obama did good on employment. He is still a shit president.
Obango logic
1 good paying job = 1 minimum wage job
someone with 3 part time jobs counts as 3 jobs.
>>71840420
It's interesting that you won't even touch these graphs.
>>71839976
>>71838704
>>71839976
where are you on this one leaf?
>>71840690
Then show the source saying that all the jobs are part time.
Oh wait.
>>71834856
>job creation
>obamacare destroys fulltime jobs across the nation
>people that used to have a full time job now have 2 or 3 part time jobs
>>71840713
Labour force participation is falling because boomers are retiring en masse.
Health care cpi is spiking because boomers are going into there 60s and 70s where illnesses spike and medical technology is getting more advanced and more expensive.
The troubling on to me is home ownership falling so steeply. But thats really a sign of inequality and conservatives dont care about that
>>71840673
Charts that start in 1980, unadjusted for inflation, and end years ago are somehow reflective of Obama?
>>71840420
thats not the point of the charts.
But they show that the so called obama recovery is a scam.
All those new jobs under his presidency are low-income waiter jobs while manufacturing is still way down.
>>71840791
Exactly. These retards think that if they just say it, it makes it true.
95% of Obama job creation has been full time.
The Spectacular Myth of Obama's Part-Time America—in 5 Graphs
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/the-spectacular-myth-of-obamas-part-time-america-in-5-graphs/283674/
>>71831755
Trump all the way. The economy's got cancer. Ignoring the problem is inviting death. Take your shit chart to reddit obamacuck
>>71831755
Trump all the way. The economy's got cancer. Ignoring the problem is inviting death. Take your shit chart to reddit.
Obama's first term '09-'13 netted a +0.25% in average annual increase for jobs
GWBs 2nd term, '05-'09 netted an increase of +0.23%, for a comparison
Obama's 2nd term has netted an increase +1.98%, which is slightly below average compared to all presidential terms since 1941.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms
>>71841115
I feel sorry for idiots who get all their information from zerohedge.
Classifying all service jobs as "waiter jobs" is so deceptive and misleading.
80% of the economy is service jobs.
When will the meme that all manufacturing jobs pay well and all service jobs pay poorly die?
>>71841023
>implying food stamps, labor force participation and home ownership need to be adjusted for inflation
>implying adjusting for inflation will account for such drastic increases over the course of a handful of years
>implying any of those graphs end before the end of Obama's first term
>implying starting in 1980 means anything
I wonder if you're really this stupid, or just a well-paid shill.
How much free time do you have OP?
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Republican%20Great%20Depression/country/ca/
>>71840791
ok lets start with this maple-nigger.
>>71841586
fug...
>>71841619
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/recovery-has-created-far-more-low-wage-jobs-than-better-paid-ones.html
>>71841023
>Screams out you want sources from cuntservatives.
>Several are provided from the same site you use.
FUCK YOU MAN.
Enough bro, you are embarrassing our colony.
>>71840791
Obamacare : jobs program
>>71841438
The economy does way better under Democrats than Republicans.
Looks like we're heading back to the Democrat Stagflation of the 1970's.
>>71841586
lol ok wtf is this?
>being this retarded kek
>>71841510
>80% of the economy is service jobs.
lol thats why the economy is fucked you dumb cunt.
>>71841859
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/recovery-has-created-far-more-low-wage-jobs-than-better-paid-ones.html
Niggers really wanted another black role model.
Thus they are blinded by darkness.
>>71841789
There are many more people working in healthcare because the segment of the population (boomers) are all getting old (in there 60s and 70s).
Thats just demographics, not economics.
>>71841822
Because baby boomers are retiring?
> Democrat Stagflation of the 1970's.
You think Nixon and Ford were Democrats?
Wew lad these right wing retards.
>>71841797
Yes the economy was so good under Carter that people kicked him out of office after one term and elected Reagan twice
>>71841789
Obama wasn't president in January 2008.
Why are conservatives such morons?
>>71841708
What are you talking about? I asked for a source for claims like that Obama changed the way unemployment rate is calculated. None of those charts provide that source.
Those charts are just copypasta that I've already debunked time and time again.
How in the world right wing retards think Obama was president in 1980 or 1996 or 2008 is beyond me.
>>71842281
That wasn't the point of the graph you fucking retard.
>>71842424
Your "debunking" of that graph was garbage and I already told you why. Go respond to that post.
>>71841977
This is still cracking me up. Thanks Leafbro. Funniest thing today.
>>71842610
Will your canuckbruh finally stop posting this time? After being so BTFO?
>>71842610
>>71842571
>being this retarded
You still haven't heard of the Baby boomers?
STILL?!
“Each day,10,000 baby boomers retire and begin receiving Medicare and Social Security benefits.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/07/24/do-10000-baby-boomers-retire-every-day/
I learned this shit 20 years ago in social studies class.
>>71842424
And by the way
>How in the world right wing retards think Obama was president in 1980 or 1996 or 2008 is beyond me.
Stop using this strawman for fuck's sake. No one claimed that Obama's term started in 1980 or 1996 just because some of those graphs start in 1980 or 1996. Otherwise, I should be shitting on you for thinking Obama took office in 2008 since you literally posted a chart starting in 2008 in the OP.
>>71842852
And yet our population still increases. It's almost like we let in a lot of working age immigrants or something
>>71842943
All these charts show is that George Bush crashed the US economy. Everybody knows that already. Everybody knows that Republicans are a disaster for the US economy.
>>71831755
Participation in the work force is still at a 40 year low because of this president.
>>71831755
Itt: Misleading graph misleading people
>>71842951
Yeah except I posted that chart and it clearly shows where Obama took office. It shows the mess he inherited. The right wing retards' charts don't because they're so stupid they think Obama was president in 2008.
>>71843032
Yeah when baby boomers retire, they don't automatically die. THEY LEAVE THE LABOR FORCE.
Are you honestly this retarded?
>>71843214
And Obama hasn't improved much.
>>71843214
>Everybody knows that Republicans are a disaster for the US economy.
Only retards that knows nothing about ecnomics thinks this...oh.
>>71843335
>if they don't specifically label where Obama took office, then they necessarily think that the beginning of the chart is when Obama took office
Again, are you really this stupid?
>>71843411
Even 1st graders can identify patterns.
Too bad right wing retards can't.
>>71843542
No I'm not. The point is that as you know, right wing retards are that stupid. They fall for misleading charts. So when they see that huge crash, they think it happened under Obama when it actually happened under Bush. That's the whole reason why right wing retards start all these charts in 2007 or 2008.
OP has been comprehesively BTFO'ed
Now please kill yourself, thanks
>>71831755
These are the statistics directly from the Bureau of Labor Statistics at the United States Departmet of Labor.
http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet
This is the labor force statistics participation rate. Pay close attention to the participation rate when Obama takes office in 2005.
>>71843947
Except that isn't the case with most of the graphs in this thread.
>>71844059
>Pay close attention to the participation rate when Obama takes office in 2005.
KEK
>>71844178
It's the case with almost every single right wing retard chart.
>>71843747
for example.
Almost none of them start at the beginning of the Obama presidency, OR show when he took office which was January 20th, 2009.
>>71840256
>The economy is still terrible. You can cook the numbers any way you want, but the vast majority of the jobs added are shit tier.
Cooking the books is typical Keynesian Economics for ya. Everything is artificially inflated to look good in the short term, but in the long term it collapses and burns.
Besides the creation of shit tier jobs. How many of these so called new "Jobs" were outsourced / off-shored? The US doesn't manufacture much anymore and it's all being sent overseas for cheap labor. This is why is believe that graph OP posted is a lie / misleading. Getting a worthless minimum wage job is not the same as getting a well paying job that is beneficial for the economy. The Affordable Health Care Act also fucked over small businesses because now full time workers are getting laid off due to businesses owners being forced to cover their healthcare. Good luck finding a full-time position at small businesses.
>>71843827
Almost as if there was a massive housing crisis when Bush left office...
>>71844059
Just for clarity. 2005 is when he became a US Senator.
>>71831755
You can thank the Federal Reserve for creating yet another bubble for Obongo's miracle recovery. 1/2
>>71831755
>>71844444
2/2
>>71844280
You seem to have missed the red shading on those graphs.
>>71844059
>Pay close attention to the participation rate when Obama takes office in 2005.
You mean January 20, 2009 right?
>>71843736
Chart is obviously horseshit and any one with the slightest knowledge of stats would discard it.
>>71844280
Ignore all the charts I posted that do start from Obama's presidency.
>>71842434
>>71842482
>>71842532
>>71842692
>>71844444
Damn them quints though
>>71841346
Tell me some plans Trump has come up with. How would they work out? Tell me. Me as a European have such political figures as Trump. Alot words but ask them to explain how to do the task in real life. They won't answer.
Tell me trump lovers. Why you want to burn down whole USA? Im curious.
>>71844513
Which president's jobs record did they get wrong?
Don't say all of them.
Be specific and provide a source with the correct information.
>>71844504
2005 is when he became a US Senator and was able to vote to affect Legislature that directly affected the US economy. It's only fair to start at the beginning.
>>71844444
>>71844485
Here is even better chart. It's this current debt/monetary base bubble that we're in that's propping up the economy. Obummer hasn't done shit. It's all been Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen
>>71831755
>>Thinking presidents control the economy
>>71831755
third time you come to /pol/ and post this exact same picture.
I have to admire your autistic obsession
>>71844907
Another chart here showing that We're in the largest economic bubble in history. It's only a matter if time before it pops like all bubbles do
>>71844730
Fairer trading and minimizing waste, fraud, and abuse are some things Trump has talked about. He hasn't explained them in great detail, but we've had politicians with "real policies" for years and that got us into the war in Iraq and $19 trillion in debt, among other things. People are voting for Trump because he can't be any worse; we just want to try something else, especially if it's pissing off the establishment.
>>71845060
More like 33rd
>>71844828
Oh ok. I got a little confused there lol
>>71845115
third time I saw it posted.
I guessed he had posted a lot more times before
>>71842281
>Implying the Obama regime wasn't/isn't a continuation of the Bush/Clinton/Bush regime.
>>71831755
Wow he showed up after the market cleaned up Bill's housing fun ride. And all it took was 19 Trillions dollars we don't have. Can't wait for China to buy our country.
>>71844992
And this. Presidents=/=Dictators. They have almost 0% control of the economy. The Federal Reserve system is responsible for the artificial booms and busts of modern economies
>>71845177
Yes I don't deny that. Right wing retards need an education.
>>71844444
quints of truth.
I cant wait for this leafposter to stop posting when its retarded idea that presidents have any impact in the economy becomes debunked as soon as this summer
>>71845349
See all of these
>>71844485
>>71844444
>>71844907
>>71845093
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>>71845234
And who appoints people to the Federal Reserve?
>>71845511
No one really knows. The Federal Reserve is a private bank with stockholders. It isn't even "federal". No government agency has stockholders.
>>71845349
>Right wing retards need an education
I'm not right wing, certainly not in the economic spectrum
The sad thing is that you actually support the idea that somehow the US president has any influence in the US economy.
That is a pathetic idea.
>>71845646
NOPE. Not at all. President Obama is the slowest spender since Eisenhower and has reduced the budget deficit by over 2/3.
Viral Facebook post says Barack Obama has lowest spending record of any recent president
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/23/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/
Barack Obama claims deficit has decreased by two-thirds since taking office
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-claims-deficit-has-decreased-two-thir/
>inb4 I'M RIGHT WING SO I HATE FACTS
>>71845655
jews
>>71831755
>what is projected GDP and nominal GDP
the guy made a fucking retard of himself funding a bunch of stupid shit like socialized medicine
>>71845655
I'll answer the question for you. The President of the United States appoints the seven governors of the Federal Reserve.
>>71845872
>slowest spender since Eisenhower
>spends more than any other president combined
>>71844444
That left and right axis. Wow. See this is exactly how right wing retards fall for deceptive charts.
The chart is totally skewed.
>>71845872
Can't respond to any other graphs. The fact remains, debt continues to rise. The debts of past presidents don't matter. That's not what we're looking at remember? We're focusing on Obama, who has increased the debt by $8 trillion.
>>71845872
>He gets his economic information from Goybook.
Top Kek. Got any other sources anon? Buzzfeed perhaps. Once again the President has 0 control of the economy. The Federal Reserve and the printing of money has been the ones in control. Pic related
>>71846025
And? So what? The goveners in charge of it are just puppets nothing more. Different puppets, same masters.
>>71846027
How do you figure?
Bush's last budget spending was $3.5 TRILLION.
Obama's last budget proposal spending was $4 trillion.
Over 7 years that's the slowest increase in spending by any president since Eisenhower.
You don't reduce the budget deficit by over 2/3 like Obama did by going on a spending spree.
>>71846090
>gu-guis! th-the char-chart is ske-skewed heh heh
Is there anything more pathetic then a sub-human little left wing cucklet?
left wing retards LMAO.
>>71846090
The rate at which both have been growing is the same Leaf. That chart has data from the Federal Reserve themselves
>>71845872
complete lack of context.
Its a comparison from 2009 to current year.
2009. The year where the deficit swelled imensely because of stimulus after the crisis.
In a long term perspective, there is nothing special about it.
plus, deficit=/=debt
here, have a pic taken from one of your links that puts into perspective your pseudoargument
>>71846095
I've debunked most of those graphs. I can't possibly respond to every single right wing retards' graphs that are posted.
I just debunked another one.
>>71846090
Look at the left and right axis. It's measuring 2 totally different things.
Perfect example of how right wing decepticons trick right wing retards.
Not to mention that none of them debunk my original post.
>>71846379
>statistics don't suit my agenda therefore they're right wing deceptions.
Can left wing degenerates get any more pathetic if they tried?
>>71846363
btw, as you can see, every single year of obamas presidency has been way above average deficit.
Money spent for a supposed recovery that is still to materialize in the real world.
>>71846379
See here
>>71846352
Btw can you tell me what the "Monetary base" even is leaf?
>>71846245
>>He gets his economic information from Goybook.
See how retarded right wing retards are? It was a Politifact evaluation of a chart that was spread on Facebook. That doesn't mean I got it from Facebook.
Here's the original chart.
I love how you people are such fucking morons, you can't disseminate simple fucking information.
You just see 1 word, like FACEBOOK, and are automatically triggered into a talking point.
>>71846250
go back to 2008
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
some debt was inevitable
not this much though, interest rates had not reached a point where it would accelerate the debt so fast
to try and counter the debt Obama tried spending to stimulate the economy, in theory this would work, but instead it only created a bigger bubble because he spent it too fast
what you need to look at is his projected GDP
>>71844758
One little thing: How does this chart account for WAR? Or the seventies oil crisis? It can't because it is a fraudulent piece of agitprop.
And you are still BTFO , NOW RUB SOME METH ON YOUR RUBY RED SPHINCTER SO AHMED CAN GO ANOTHER ROUND.
>>71846090
>>71846379
thats a FRED graph
I'm guessing you have no idea what that is, because you unironically post facebook macros.
Go smoke more weed leaf.
>>71846486
LOOK AT THE LEFT AND RIGHT AXIS YOU DUMMY.
>>71844444
>>71846721
>perfectly resourced, good standing factual information doesn't suit my argument
>h-hey yo-you du-dumm-dummy!? it ain-aint co-coorrect!?!?
LMAOOOOOO at these left wing window licking sub humans. Boy, better gas em all.
>>71846527
You're a fucking retard leaf. That is Literally the "GROWTH" of Economic spending. That means that not only did Obango spend as much money as Dubya did, he spent MORE. That is what growth means Leaf
>>71846596
Yeah I know it's a FRED graph I make FRED graphs all the time.
That one was clearly manipulated by the user. You can see the left and right axis are measuring 2 completely different things.
How can you right wing retards not see that?
>>71846721
yes, one tracks the DOW Jones Average Index, and the other the total monetary base.
The point here is that they're correlated. The implications of this are probably way beyond your head though
>>71831755
Those jobs are waiters, caretakers, nurses, Uber drivers, and other crap 1099 employment. You really have no idea your rich privileged cunt.
>>71842281
is this autism?
>>71846826
Once again LEAF it's relative data. It's the stock market compared with the monetary base which is the amount of money being printed. Most of that money sits on banks balance sheets. The data's rate of increase correlate with each other. Check the bigger chart I posted here
>>71844907
>>71831755
>>71846826
Ontario NEET syrupnigger!
Your back!
Have you gone out and found a job yet? Can't live in your moms house forever.
>>71838498
holy shit dude economic policies take years to show full effects, carter was easily bottom 3 in our nations history for economic policy, reagan dealt with that
>>71831755
So part time and minimum wage jobs?
>>71846812
What is measure on the left and what is measured on the right? Is it the same metric or completely different?
I bet all you idiots fell for that scary 1929 stock market chart.
GUARANTEED.
Here's The Truth About That 1929 Stock Market Crash Chart That Everyone Is Passing Around
http://www.businessinsider.com/1929-stock-market-crash-chart-is-garbage-2014-2
>>71831755
>be OP
>"Wow, look at this graph! Such a shitty president!"
>>71847184
>carter was easily bottom 3 in our nations history for economic policy
No he wasn't.
>inb4 MUH OCCUPY.
Prove 1 fact wrong.
PROTIP: You can't.
>>71846379
That is not a refutation. You haven't refuted debt to gdp ratio increases (>>71842434
>>71842482). You haven't refuted the mass increases in spending(>>71842773
>>71843554 >>71843747 >>71844664). You haven't refuted falling income(>>71842692
>>71842943 >>71843747). You haven't refuted increased military expenditure (>>71843379). You simply argue that the reason the labour force participation rate is shrinking is because of an aging baby boomer population, and completely ignore the fact that participation rates are falling for other age groups as well (pic related).
You also argue that we should only focus on Obama's terms, and that graphs which begin before Obama's election is misleading, yet constantly bring up the performances of past presidents. The fact that a graph begins before 2009 does not invalidate its findings, no matter how many times you insist it does.
>>71846818
Also that data you posted is Literally from 2012. I'm gonna need to see more relative data since it is the CURRENT YEAR
>>71847134
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>>71846951
Guaranteed all you retards fell for that scary 1929 stock market graph a few years ago.
This exactly how data is manipulated to scare right wing retards.
That Viral Chart Predicting Another 1929 Stock-Market Crash? It's Absurd
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/02/that-viral-chart-predicting-another-1929-stock-market-crash-its-absurd/283762/
Exacty same thing.
>>71847256
dat crop tho
>>71847013
Yes. Yours.
See what I mean. See how stupid you people are? You actually thought Obama was president in 2008.
>>71847379
>Literally tin foil fringe shit
>implying I fell for it
>implying I don't know that the Fed will do everything in their power to keep this smoke and mirrors system going
I never even heard about this LEAF. You're really beginning to scrape the bottom of the barrel
>>71847300
Oh you want to compare the working age participation rate?
It is right now exactly where it was in Reagan's 2nd term.
Trumptards BTFO.
By the way you know that job openings are at record highs right?
The only people dragging down the 25-54 CLFPR are Trumptard NEETs who are too fucked up to get a job.
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
Why is obama being praised for anything. Is he the one opening a new subway restaurant down the road and giving people jobs?
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>>71847746
I thought we were talking about Obama, not Reagan? You're getting confused again brainlet.
>>71847279
public or private sector jobs? productive labor? how did each president "create" jobs? do you recognize that govt. employment is a type of subsidy that creates bubbles? which industries grew? what major inventions or innovations happened during each presidency? what were global trends at the time? what was the breadth of policies enacted under each administration, and were these executive orders or acts of congress? do you believe the president has singular authoritarian control over policy like a tinpot dictator or have you taken a basic civics course? do you believe that I genuinely care about what narrative you want to spin about the life of politicians?
>>71847379
again, the key word here is high correlation.
We know they're tracking different things, but the issue stands.
Right now you're just trying to change the subject to something nothing of us posted.
>>71847583
>Literally tin foil fringe shit
Obviously you don't know what viral means.
>Literally tin foil fringe shit
is exactly what right wing retard websites like cnsnews specialize in.
>>Literally tin foil fringe shit
is thinking that 96 million Americans are unemployed and that the REAL unemployment rate is 42%.
Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
That's
>Literally tin foil fringe shit
>>71847746
Op, it's time you woke the fuck up. I know you won't listen but here's a good start:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0
This isn't an issue of left vs. right. The left and right are merely pawns in a broken system that steaks your liberty and prosperity every second of every day
>>71847860
I get bitched at for posting too much.
I get bitched at that if I miss 1 post and don't reply, then I've been BTFO.
I can't win with you retards.
