http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555162/The-family-members-feared-dead-Ohio-mass-murder-100-relatives-rounded-hunt-gunman-shocking-execution-style-massacre-eight-people.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-latest-ohio-governor-says-killings-a-terrible-thing/2016/04/22/8da247de-08eb-11e6-bfed-ef65dff5970d_story.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/8-relatives-shot-head-ohio-no-suspects-caught-052247601.html?nhp=1
>white trash
>>71830706
Clearly the guns are to blame!
>>71830706
Sadly, these attacks will continue to be the norm as long as the second amendment exists.
>>71830921
>>71831070
BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS
>>71830921
lose gun restrictions => increased gun related crime rate
Compare europe to us.
>>71832708
THATS NOT TRUE, WE NEED MOAR GUNS IN NIGHTCLUBS, STADIUMS AND KINDERGARTEN
>>71833360
Thank you for your opinion and for using capslock, but the statistics refute that.
>>71830921
a gun killed my whole family
it broke into my house and stabbed my wife
>>71830921
its the culture. white people have killed innocent people throughout history. they invented socialism and homosexuality...
>>71831070
>reposting bait
shame on you canada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tim_McLean
>>71832708
And?
literally 0% of guns in the US are used to murder someone.
a vast, vast, VAST minority of our population abusing their rights does not equate to a need to take those rights from the vast majority of the population that will never do any harm.
I know most of you dont agree but there has to be stricter gun laws implemented
incidents like this occur way too often in the US and it only happens because we dont have strict enough gun regulations and background screenings like the rest of the modern world
Name one reason a citizen should be able to own an assault rifle?
You cant
>>71832708
>>71833360
>>71833416
Hey, you retarded faggots. Wanna look at the "statistics"?
It's not guns. It's niggers.
If you only looked at White people, the US would have gun crimes comparable to Belgium
>>71833711
>does not equate to a need to take those rights from the vast majority of the population that will never do any harm.
Taking guns away =/= stricter gun laws
>>71830706
GEEZ OH MAN
>>71833731
>Name one reason a citizen should be able to own an assault rifle?
hunting boars and/or getting rid of them as they pose a massive threat to people
there are many of them, they travel/hunt together, they can take several "assault rifle" rounds before dying, and they can and will fuck you up if they get close
people who live in cities have no right to any rights, they are little more than dumb cattle. to stupid to understand how reality works for real human beings.
>>71832708
>Compare europe to us.
If you take away niggers from the stats then the US has one of the lowest gun related crime rate in the world.
We don't need to ban guns. We need to ban niggers. I am sure Germany will like to have our US niggers.
>>71833813
>It's niggers
Even without niggers and spics, it's the higher
>>71833999
Does homicide include self defence?
>>71833702
fuck wrong picture
>>71833999
The FBI counts many Central Americans as White.
Besides, I'd rather have guns than the tyranny of Europe.
>>71833995
see >>71833999
Even if you subtract all low iq pops you will get an increased gun related crime rate compared to us. You have to admit that lose restrictions lead to more deaths.
>>71833902
First of all.
What stricter gun laws would prevent any of the "issues" you see here?
>Taking guns away =/= stricter gun laws
>take away someones right to own something
>it's just stricter gun laws, we didn't take anything form you! just your children and all future generations!
>>71833999
And? it's still inconsequential numbers that include defensive gun uses and felon on felon shootings.
>>71834143
yes, self defense is just motive claimed in court, still reported as homicide
>>71833999
>surrounded by homicidal maniacs
>>71834225
Would rather have homicides then my leader throwing my flag away and shaking his/her head because nationalism is so frowned upon.
>>71834377
Then looks fine to me with the amount of niggers you have and only just over double the white murders there is literally nothing wrong with the second ammendment.
Just niggers.
>>71833948
You can kill boars with a rifle or a shotgun i repeat there is NO good reason a citizen should be able to own a military designed assault rifle,
people like you are why the goverment cant even get simple commonsense gun laws passed and you make all gun owners look bad
>>71834225
>You have to admit that lose restrictions lead to more deaths.
Assuming they would not have been killed by some other implement, and completely ignoring all the lives that our guns save.
>>71834354
Look at our gun related crime rates. We have stricter rules. There is clearly a correlation.
Why is it so difficult to admit that stricter rules would decrease the gun related crime rate? It won't solve it, but it will better the situation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
>>71834225
That's some analytical shit, Germany.
Next are you gonna try and tell me countries with more cars per capita have more deaths from wrecks?
>>71834515
And why are you falling for the correlation/causation meme and ignoring other people's arguments?
>>71834354
>>71834143
>>71834377
>>71834483
>self defense are homicide
Rrrright, then why not suicide and
accidents...
>>71834488
here is your obligated bait reply
>>71830706
sounds like a hit job to me, i bet someone owed money or it was revenge.
>>71830706
I'm building a wall around my house. Will this keep the murderers out?
>>71834413
Incoherent comment.
>>71834493
You are arguing a completely different point here. Stay on topic.
>>71834568
Note that the wikipedia page is listing relative ratios, not absolutes. Your argument is invalid.
>>71834617
I am not ignoring other opinions. Just stating how your opinion clearly collides with the statistics. You are being intellectually dishonest by denying this.
>>71834488
Fuck off fudd
You have no good reason to own your boring fudd guns, buy your meat form the grocery store and let the government and police handle animal overpopulation you betamale cuckold faggot.
>>71834515
>Why is it so difficult to admit that stricter rules would decrease the gun related crime rate?
Because we have individual states that show otherwise.
Why are you obsessed with lowering our inconsequential firearm related incident rate?
we already have background checks and it is illegal for felons to own guns.
What do you want? superbackground checks and superfelonies?
nothing that you people propose would do anything but make it harder for law abiding citizens to procure firearms and lead to less lawful or defensive uses of firearms.
>if-if you just banned all these scary black guns nobody uses to kill anybody with!
fuck off eurocucks
>>71834650
Because suicides are not counted with one person shooting another person?
>>71834198
And that's where MR potato head comes from.
>>71834650
Homicide doesn't go to intent, the word that is. It is one man killing another.
So accidents, self defence and murder are homicide.
>>71834933
respond to this you massive faggot. >>71834377
You are ignoring the counterargument that debunks yours
>>71833999
FBI often puts down 'white' in the race box of squat little brown people from south of the border. Always remember that.
>>71834933
>You are arguing a completely different point here. Stay on topic.
No you are arguing that we would have less deaths if we tightened our gun laws somehow
I am telling you that the only things you can do now are ban specific firearms and add shitloads of paperwork and that this will not lead to less gun related homicides and will in fact lead to more murders/mugging/home invasions/robberies.
Criminals don;t go to a gun store and pass a 4473 for their firearms, they steal them or buy them from the black market, or have a non criminal friend buy them(non criminals would pass superbackground checks too)
So now that you have made it harder for the average non criminal to get a firearm what happens? less citizens are armed and the defensive gun use numbers drop.
More people get hurt or die because of your bullshit bureaucracy.
>>71835131
Clearly homicide AND defensive gun uses would decrease with stricter rules. How can you still not conceive this obvious fact?
>>71830706
>>71835336
Just like it did in Chicago and DC right?
>>71833702
If that man has any family they are obligated to hunt that subhuman down and carve him the fuck up.
I would torture him to death with rusty scalpel and feed his meat to a hound while hes bleeding out and still conscious.
>>71834198
did the investigators lay out the eyes and ears in that way? wasnt the cink carrying them in his pocket?
hilarious if they did
>>71835118
>>71834974
>https://www.unodc.org/gsh/en/data.html
>page 1
>''Intentional homicide is defined as UNLAWFUL death purposely inflicted on a person by another person''
>>71834205
>>71835271
Hispanic are what? Also it's not the FBI
>>71835336
There are more guns in America than there are people. Niggers will always get guns. The law-abiding must have legal guns to defend themselves.
How can you not understand this obvious logic?
>>71833731
Keep the government in check.
>>71833702
His killer got out last year fucking christ
>>71835607
OH CANADA
>>71835554
>intentional homicide
>intentional
That's the word that goes to intent dipshit and that's the word that isn't used in the statistics we're referring to.
>>71833999
If you subtract niggers, it's barely higher than Finland.
I don't even remember the last time there was any gun crime here and while the gun laws here are pretty shit compared to the US, it's still better than almost anywhere in Europe.
>>71833546
You're confusing jewish people with white people again Shlomo.
>>71835554
Thats where everyone gets their crime stats here in the states. The Fbi.
Hispanics are often put down as white.
>>71832708
I noticed germany has been buying more weapons as the refugees came in.
That can't be a coincidence can it?
Maybe another family member killed them
>>71833731
>Name one reason a citizen should be able to own an assault rifle?
Because I want to
Because they are fun
Because they are efficient at killing people
Give me a reason tens of millions of Americans should lose their rights based on the actions of a tiny minority?
someone crossed a Mexican drug cartel.
even the nigs aren't this viscious
>>71835700
https://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/data/GSH2013_Homicide_count_and_rate.xlsx
They say they use the international definition and not the US one: self defense =/= homicide
What is the problem?
>>71835879
If they're a little girl and wan't to use the bathroom without being fiddled by a man in a summer frock apparently.
>>71830706
Why is John Oliver dressed up as an officer? Is it because it's 2016 and you shouldn't need police training to be part of the force?
>>71830706
what did they do is deserve it the real question.
>>71835933
>>71833416
>the statistics refute that
Post them.
>>71836217
>>71836336
>what is reading the thread
>>71831829
Who the fuck designed that motherboard...
>>71833702
>After the incident, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) attempted to run an ad in the Portage Daily Graphic comparing the killing of McLean to the consumption of animals
JUST
>>71836380
>>71830706
>>71830921
>>71831070
>>71831829
>>71832708
It should be illegal to NOT own a gun in the US.
>>71836391
But you haven't posted statistics that refuted anything.
>>71834650
>Rrrright, then why not suicide and
>accidents.
Deaths are reported as suicide (self-killer), homocide (man killer), and manslaughter (accidental).
>>71836530
Maybe you should read them.
>>71836509
No, let people decide for themselves.
Every citizen has the right to have or not have firearms.
>>71836566
>https://www.unodc.org/gsh/en/data.html
>page 1
>''Intentional homicide is defined as UNLAWFUL death purposely inflicted on a person by another person''
read the thread Jose
>>71836608
I have and any argument made was debunked by another poster.
So I ask again, post those facts that you claim say we need less guns.
>>71836380
Should make another perspective where the majority of the green pie is niggers.
>>71836404
Gayming marketing for stupid underage people
>>71836608
All you did was post your countries homicide rate and claimed that your strict gun laws were the key to your low gun crime rate.
But that's not an argument for or against gun control in the US
If I live on an island with 0 guns my gun crime rate will be non existent.
So tell me which specific gun restrictions would "fix" our gun "problem"
>>71835336
Most people just have a gun to keep locked up in their bedroom in case of a break in. Most of the US is still the wild west compared to Europe. Check of the population densities. I live 200miles south of chicago and niggers come through in waves causing local crime. It's almost seasonal really, and if you live by yourself on the outskirts of town, it's nice to know you won't be fucked with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density
pic related is older but still reflective of this trend
>>71830706
Zebra 2.0?
>yfw a muslim nigger dinduit
>>71835503
>not using a tourniquet to keep him from bleeding out and allowing the pain to kill him
>37yo grandmother
>more likely to be struck by lightning that shot in a mass shooting
>>71837449
Perfectly normal.
>>71836739
Claiming something doesn't make it true. You need to do better than this.
>>71836890
How about restricting guns to your house only? Making it legal to carry guns in public for civilians is allowing those crimes to happen.
>criminals will still disobey
Nobody can solve issues related to criminals disobeying the law, but making guns less public would increase deterrence effects and the overall gun related crime rate would decline.
>>71837559
How do you breed that fast with a 20 foot buffer zone?
>>71837559
no no no
I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE KILLER'S ETHNICITY
IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
>>71835527
No, it's fake. The chink ate his eyes, they were not found. Even says so in the Wiki article he linked.
>>71834817
only if you make them pay for it
>>71837830
Do we know the ethnicity of the victims?
>>71837830
The longer it takes them to identify race the less likely it is to be white
>>71837830
Trailer trash, probably a drug deal
>>71837611
>keep and BEAR arms
>Making it legal to carry guns in public for civilians is allowing those crimes to happen.
That is incorrect, a lot of states require licensing to carry a firearm outside of your home.
Felons(the majority of the people shooting each other) are not allowed to own firearms and if caught with one receive another felony conviction.
Then you would have to take all of the people that use their firearms to defend themselves from robberies, assaults rape and murder outside of their homes and tell them to shove it because you want to not solve gang shootings.
>but making guns less public would increase deterrence effects and the overall gun related crime rate would decline.
This is incorrect, you average citizen walking down the street with a glock on his hip is not causing the issues
>would increase deterrence effects
Again, the criminals are already breaking the law to do what they do, your "solution" literally only affects people that want to defend themselves and do no harm to anyone.
I have an actual solution that does not trample on the individual rights of tens of millions of citizens if you are interested.
>>71830706
>that cop
is that John Oliver with a shittier haircut?
>>71838061
this lmao
if he'd be white the media would be sure to point it out
>>71835024
>>71838078
Trailer trash is a legit ethnicity now?
>>71834198
WTF, sauce!
>>71838723
look at who he is responding to
>>71838110
>I have an actual solution that does not trample on the individual rights of tens of millions of citizens if you are interested.
Sure go ahead. I won't shut you down for it.
>>71838680
Like chavs
>>71838805
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tim_McLean
ohh snap, my bad. too high
>>71833731
>West Germany
No results from Yugoslavia? What about Rhodesia?
>>71837179
Please be a Muslim
Please be a Muslim
Please be a Muslim
Please be a Muslim
>>71836625
It's a safety hazard to not own a gun.
Just like it's illegal to not wear a seat belt while you're driving I think that it should be illegal to not own a gun.
>>71833731
Hey moron
non-Hispanic white Americans have the same exact fucking homicide rate as Europe
>>71830706
I didn't know John Oliver was a deputy
>>71833731
>Name one reason a citizen should be able to own an assault rifle?
If the citizen wants a gun, the citizen should buy a gun. Just for wanting it is reason enough.
>>71838824
Really it's a three step solution, it's unlikely to occur but I think it would make a big impact
1: end the drug war and legalize recreational drug use
2: legalize prostitution
The vast majority of the profit for these gangs(majority committers of our gun crime) comes from illicit drug sales and illegal prostitution, the reason they shoot eachother so much is over territory to sell drugs and pimp out hookers.
If you could get wood at walmart and a hooker next door these gangs would go bankrupt and have to incentive to have gang wars over ghetto territory and cause most of our gun crime.
3. actually lock up violent offenders
the US prison system lets lots of violent criminals back onto the street early or do to overpopulation due to all the easy to handle recreational drug users.
Prisons would rather be filled with the brim with pot smokers than murderers and will push for parole on violent criminals to make their job/profit easier.
also our judicial system is too lenient with absurdly violent criminals and gives them short sentences or probation
If you kill or seriously injure someone in the commission of a crime you should essentially be put away for life.
average street brawls and the like obviously should not apply for this.
>kill the gangs profit
>put the violent ones away for life
You would essentially eliminate 90% of our gun crime, save the tax payers billions and save many more lives.
>>71839806
>get wood at walmart
weed*
although if prostitution is legal maybe both.
>>71833731
Anyone who might need to overthrow the government? Anyone who wants to have fun shooting? Semi-auto can be used for hunting too
>>71835758
no you stupid fuck they choose to put themselves as white
>>71837611
The Frenchman is right. You have simply ignored all the counterarguments and just keep on trucking with your shitty opinion, like the robotic minded Kraut you are.
>>71831070
Worry about your own country, faggot.
>>71834225
Simply having a gun doesn't motivate a criminal to kill someone.
You keep saying "if you take away guns, gun crimes will go down" yeah, no fucking shit. The only change will be that knife and strangulation related homicides will increase to balance it out. It doesn't lower the overall homicide rate.
>>71834488
where the fuck are you from? and how did you hear about 4chan you outsider cuck
>>71835752
>implying ancient Greeks and Romans were jewish
>>71833948
>inb4 genetically engineered boar apocalypse becomes the new thing to finally replace zombies
>>71833702
Why has no one even attempted to kill him yet?
gotdam, Canadians really are fags
>>71832708
Europe is a shithole, especially Germany.
>>71832708
add gun restrictions => forced to let yourself be raped by immigrants because the government will have you executed for racism if you don't
>>71830706
Why are they interviewing John Oliver?
>>71836625
right, natural selection has to occur at some point
>>71830921
If there were no guns. They would be alive
>>71833731
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>71830706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vds3azJeuEI
>>71830706
>8 killed in Ohio
Being from Ohio, I have to say, not nearly enough.
>>71842562
>people can not be killed with things other than guns
>>71833999
>homicide deaths
>deaths
This is victims, not offenders.
Nigs commit over half of the violent crime in America, and yes some of that is against whites.
>A FUCKING LEAF
>>71835271
Your so full of shit. Just admit whites commit crimes also.
>>71842954
>Just admit whites commit crimes also.
Just nowhere near the rate of black and browns.
>>71843014
>>71843050
>>71843079
>>71842954
What he said is 100% correct though
>>71843139
>>71835566
Thats because whites sell them guns from other states. If every state had tight gun laws like a Illinois down deaths will go down.
>>71843179
>>71843050
your comparing developed countries to undeveloped countries (naru is an outlier)
>>71843079
Out of all those, I can't believe gambling is the one with the biggest gap
>>71843215
>niggers commit crimes with guns therefore every state needs nigger tier gun laws
>only the states with strict gun laws and a bunch of niggers have "high" gun crime
Fuck you pass nigger control.
>>71843297
>your comparing developed countries to undeveloped countries (naru is an outlier)
Show me a white third world country.
>>71836404
Aesthetics aside, the G1's were great boards. The X58 ones, at least.
>>71833999
Don't they have alot more people than the U.K or Sweden?
>>71843139
Another thing to note the NYPD did infact use racial profiling in combination with having a quota for stopping people each day. This is what led to the data being as disproportionate as it is.
>>71843297
>your
kill yourself illiterate
>>71843353
>>71833999
This has nothing to do with guns, this statistic is useless. All these homicides were committed with butter knives for all anyone knows.
>>71843543
>grease
>white
>>71838061
True, but they don't even have a suspect yet.
>>71830706
All this gun debate bullshit kinda ignores an important thing, this guy hasn't been caught yet.
If it's about drugs, what are the chances the cartels are involved?
>>71833731
>Name one reason a citizen should be able to own an assault rifle?
Because these "assault rifles" are the kiddie version of what the military and police use. Additionally, handguns and shotguns are far less effective for self-defense than the MSM would have you believe.
>>71833462
a cancer killed my whole family
it broke into our house and balded my wife
> Americans in charge of gun control
>>71843885
We don't want any.
>>71843652
You'd still be on trees if not for Greeks, get educated murifat
>>71844031
ancient greece =/= modern grease
pay denbts gyro nigger
>>71843336
Fuck off 40% of muders are done by whites. You guys also lead in gun sucides and accidental deaths. Which could all be avoided with tougher laws.
Also gun trafficking is also illegal but because they are white its ok right? You really think dumb gangbangers have the ablity to get guns on their own?
I dont want to take away your guns. But i do want it to hard be hard to get. And limit the amount a person can have and have a ammo limit.
Maybe don't hunt defenses animals jerk offs.
>>71844203
Make sure that stat was adjusted for population percentage.
>>71844129
kek, murifat was triggered, gyros>burgers btw
>>71843965
Guys, be out metropoly instead of anglo plz and give us guns.
>>71844203
>Fuck off 40% of muders are done by whites
when 60+% of the population is behind 13% of the population in murders there is a clear massive overepresentation
>You guys also lead in gun sucides and accidental deaths.
People can just jump off a bridge or OD on pills
there is no reason to take away rights because someone decided to opt out.
>accidental deaths
almost non existant, I'm all for free gun safes and firearms training.
Still not a reason for gun control.
>Also gun trafficking is also illegal but because they are white its ok right?
because who was white?
>You really think dumb gangbangers have the ablity to get guns on their own?
Considering the majority of their firearms come from straw purchases through friends or are stolen from homes/gun shops. yes
>I dont want to take away your guns.
mmhhm
>But i do want it to hard be hard to get
That's retarded, I have already explained how making it harder for me does not make it harder for jamal.
How are you going to make it harder anyway?
please give me your plan on how you will prevent people with no record from buying guns?
How are you going to stop all firearm thefts?
>And limit the amount a person can have and have a ammo limit.
Literally kill yourself, I have 50 guns and a bajillion rounds of ammunition.
Where do you get off thinking you have the right to tell me what I can and cannot own?
>Maybe don't hunt defenses animals jerk offs.
I am going to introduce some wild boar into your neighborhood, good luck removing them without them ending up dead.
>>71844832
There are over 1000 accidental deaths a year. Also the stat saying 14% of black population is responsible for 50% of deaths. Your saying that all black people commit muder when not even 1% of them do. Lastly i never see wild animals where i live. Maybe move to the city or the close by suburbs.
>>71831070
>>71833702
>>71834198
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Moncton_shootings
>The man responsible for killing eight people in Edmonton’s worst mass killing in recent history has been identified by sources as 53-year-old Phu Lam.
>Six adults, between ages 25 and 50, and two children under age 10 were found in two separate residences in Edmonton on Monday night.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/phu-lam-53-was-shooter-in-edmonton-mass-murder-1.2887143
>Shooting at Canada mall leaves 1 dead, 7 injured
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/06/02/shooting-at-canada-mall-leaves-1-dead-others-injured.html
>Four dead, several injured in shooting in Saskatchewan school
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/22/americas/saskatchewan-la-loche-school-shooting-canada/
Ban guns, eh
>>71845379
>There are over 1000 accidental deaths a year.
>in a country of 315,000,000 people with more guns than people
>Also the stat saying 14% of black population is responsible for 50% of deaths
I was using the stats of both races to show that there are way more whites than blacks yet blacks still vastly outnumber whites in murders
Why didn't you cry about the 99% of whites I also supposedly implicated in committing 40% of murders?
>Lastly i never see wild animals where i live. Maybe move to the city or the close by suburbs.
I am going to assume you are a troll now
>>71833999
The homicide rate for non Hispanic white is 1.5
>>71831070
>take away guns the criminals won't have them haha dude weed lmao
Hoax
>>71833999
>all homicides are done by guns dude weed lmao
>>71832708
You are a fucking retard
>>71833360
This
>>71834488
If you ain't bait. Kill yourself.
>>71833731
only slaves are unable to possess arms. 5000 years of history can show you that.
>>71839966
I doubt the FBI lets Mexicans register themselves
how haven't they found the person yet? 8 family members were killed, just fucking run all the phone records and interview anyone who knew any of the 8 members. clearly someone had a bone to pick holy fuck
>>71843761
pray that it was a Mexican cartel, trump could use that
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-latest-ohio-governor-says-killings-a-terrible-thing/2016/04/22/8da247de-08eb-11e6-bfed-ef65dff5970d_story.html
>ohio governor
>they didn't say his name
>The phantom vote sucking canidate
>kasich
clearly this is a blood sacrifice by members of the clinton cult to petition satan to force a contested convention when the republicans come back to ohio
>>71833731
Let me fix that for you
>>71847931
This. A Man having arms to defend his family is the most natural thing in the world. Only a coward or a moron would depend on the government for his own safety.
Do anti gun people not realize that criminals will still be able to procure firearms and ammo even if there are strict gun laws?
>>71850813
No they don't realize that because they're fucking retarded.
>>71850339
I thought it was a passover thing. What's going on?
Just strip the democrats of guns and you should be all good.
>>71852153
That's beautiful.
>>71842907
Can everyone PLEASE just shut the fuck up about gun-control for a moment & start speculating on as to WHY these people were murdered?
Its obviously not a random attack(?).
