Why is it so difficult to move to the US as a European?
And if i do move there and overstay on a tourist visa, how difficult would it to live as an illegal?
>>71825121
Holy shit man, fucking this.
If you want to even hope to get a temporary work Visa, you have to be the next Einstein and wait 40 years.
Meanwhile, they talk about giving Amnesty to unemployed Mexicans. FUCK this shit. All I wanna do is shoot guns and not have to live in a land of rain and muslims.
Our country is fucked up. We let mexicans come in and take over everything. Couldnt stop it because muh racism.
>>71825295
well, that trump faggot better fix it
Enjoy picking tomatoes.
If the a visa you have to pretend you're cheap labor for GOP approval, or be some special minority for DNC approval.
Personally I'd much rather another 100 Yurpoors come in before the next beaner or the next birth tourist chink. You're much more productive and much less a drag on society. You speaky engrish, you're educated, you share our values, and you understand the importance of law.
>>71825295
Europe in the near future is still in a way worse spot then America: There is literally a war going on right now and nobody cares, BREXIT is happening and Germany plans on replacing Britian with Turkey if that happens and we all know the outcomes of that.
I think im just falling under the "grass is always greener on the otherside" mentality right now.
*want a visa
>>71825121
You'd have a hard time finding work. Because of all the illegal Mexicans, they have doubled the amount of paperwork to prove you can work here.
So unless you want to pick fruit or wash dishes, not so easy.
If you could find a decent job, it wouldn't be bad. Option two, is find a gal and get married. Lots of Mexicans become legal that way.
>>71825832
preaty sure its not tha hard if you have the right degree.
>>71825832
>find a gal and get married
This sounds easiest. How would I even find a girl though? It's not like there's a massive market for mail order husbands.
>>71825121
Anyone ever find current pics of this jism prism?
>>71825583
I'm all of this, but you guys would rather let in a chinese family who'll campaign on Universities for less white people.
>>71825950
Burger women dig that Brit accent. They can't help themselves. Just visit and do your best Bond.
>>71825121
I heard gay marriage is legal OP
>tfw just want to work a shitty job in the land of the free
Why is this not allowed? I am all of these >>71825583 things, except formally educated.
>>71825121
BUILD SEAWALL
Mexican-American here. I'll get right on it. We can just pull a big chainlink fence in between our offshore oilrigs.
>>71826545
So I'm supposed to go to America on a temporary visit and seduce a woman so she'll marry me? How long would this visit be?
That said, if you come in first as an illegal immigrant and THEN marry a woman, you get to stay right? Do I keep my papers if I divorce her?
>>71825121
Lol this.
You basically need a masters degree and 5 years experience to migrate to USA. But by this time you're already harking in a lot in Europe. I'd rather go to Japan or South Korea to be honest, at least they don't have affirmative action.
>>71825121
Only brown people are allowed, sorry friend.
>>71825583
From what i read, pretty much the easiest way is to actually marry for a green card. Its pretty dumb honestly.
Is this why politicians are rallying for better citizenship paths?
>>71825232
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
It goes the other way around to. It's impossible to immigrate from US to Europe as well with so much barriers in place we only accept turds from the desert.
>>71826995
America has a brighter future under Trump.
The only fire anybody is jumping into is one that they can sit next to and warm up around.
>>71826995
Fuck off mate. America is better than here. I'll come home if we ever restore the Empire.
>>71827150
And burn along with your Jewish masters.
You've heard of the 6 million, now you'll learn about 62 trillion.
America will never be free from the Judeo-Marxist grip. You like to imagine Trump is some sort of saviour, but he is only a puppet. A puppet for the globalists.
>>71827150
>>71827164
USA is much better. If you're an engineer you should be happy with 35-50k euro a year in Europe while in US the salaries range between 70-100k+ dollar for the same jobs. But you also pay less tax in US so you'll earn even more.
''Free'' healthcare is a meme over here too I pay 125 a month for dentist insurance and medical aid, but I still have to pay 385 first if I need medical treatment just because (it's called own risk). In 2020 this own risk is probably somewhere around 600 if I'm looking at the trends of recent years.
US has more affordable healthcare compared to salaries.
A thing that does suck however is the lack of proper drinking water and so much shitty food products out there. There's a reason why 1/3 is morbidly obese and 65% overweight of the USA population.
>>71827378
>this is what stormfags actually believe
>>71825121
Because it`s always europeans (anglos and their agents to be exact), who export retarded ideologies like "islamic republic", "juche" and "communism".
>>71827620
>lack of proper drinking water
What? Do your taps spout out piss or something?
>>71827682
>t. russian
>>71825121
I think it's to keep all the Muslims out
>>71825121
Because Europeans will demand higher wages and better standards of living than illegal Mexicans. Which one serves the interests of capital?
>>71825232
>>71825121
Because our version of Labour doesn't want more opposing voters.
>>71827688
I was refering to the USA.
Netherlands has the best drinking water around Europe.
>>71827378
lol
Your pretty delusional, Europe is pretty much at the whim of Globalization, been like this since WW2 when they lost their pedestal.
>>71827797
No, sorry, I assumed you were American.
What's up with the taps?
>>71826749
Hey I can actually help with this.
> So I'm supposed to go to America on a temporary visit and seduce a woman so she'll marry me? How long would this visit be?
Depends on the girl m8. I personally did my bachelors in the US and got married while being in college.
> Do I keep my papers if I divorce her?
If you are a citizen they do not take the citizenship away from you after a divorce.
> That said, if you come in first as an illegal immigrant and THEN marry a woman, you get to stay right?
That depends.
If you are a British Citizen you should probably travel back to England - and then work it out legally (that is you show up to the US embassy and get the legal paperwork out of the way to get a visa because of your wife).
Doing that in Europe is easier than doing that in the US - especially if you're there as an illegal.
Any other questions!?
>>71827626
>Implying I'm a storm fag
I just know that the Cultural Marxists use America as a beacon to spread their degeneracy.
>>71827810
>And America isn't
>>71828165
Thanks bro, this was pretty helpful. Are there any mail order groom type sites for men looking to reach the US?
I imagine not, so I guess the only problem is to not be a sperg and attract a girl, while temporarily staying in America and not knowing anyone. Sounds pretty challenging desu
>>71825121
euros are the wrong colour for new america (they'll have your wife and daughter though)
>>71828425
>Thanks bro, this was pretty helpful. Are there any mail order groom type sites for men looking to reach the US?
You can try signing up to US Dating sites and just state that you're an European - just don't come off as too thirsty for a Greencard.
>>71828165
> in the US - especially if you're there as an illegal.
If i come over to the USA on a ESTA and overstay, can i still do the Adjustment stuff? I dont hold a British passport.
>>71828552
Cool, I bet admitting I'm not here permanently is gonna come off as looking for a greencard though, ah well.
>>71828637
You don't want to overstay an ESTA.
>>71828710
Come on man, you can be a little more creative than that.
Tell them you're traveling, tell them you're not sure where life is taking you right now, tell them you maybe want to settle down given you meet the right one..
>>71828637
> I don't hold a British passport
How are you getting on the ESTA then anyways
>>71828861
Im from a country which applies to the ESTA.
>>71828995
Alright, its just that I read that as "I don't have any passport".
>>71829149
Any other tips?
>>71827620
>the lack of proper drinking water
if you are making an engineers salary you can afford a brita filter for your tap, or bottled/jugged water.
Not everywhere is Flint Michigan. I drink the city's tap water occasionally, its fine.
>>71827150
Except Trump won't get elected :(
Seriously cab someone convince me he will? I want to believe in meme magic, but I just don't see it happening
>>71829552
If he doesn't get the nomination there will be riots and the GOP will never recover.
Hillary has so much dirt on her she won't win. She can't even beat a 70 year old socialist.
>>71829341
The water in the vast majority of the country is fine. But yeah, inline water filters are cheap and plentiful.
I'm on a private well. I have my own purification system that makes the water excellent. Costs about $20 / month to operate.
Tip: do you have any relatives here? You might see if they can create a shell company that hires you as the 'most qualified'. That's how a lot of the indians do it. They buy a shitty, run down motel, replace the mattresses and paint, then import their family from India to run it cheap. Repeat. I'd estimate more than 1/3 of the cheap / non-franchise motels in the US midwest are run by Indian extended families.
>>71825121
just fly to mexico and swim across the river
>>71829665
You're underestimating the idiocy that is American leftism. I stopped believing that things like "intelligence" and "having good ideas" were relevant when Obama got elected to his second term.
>>71827620
This country is built for the rich. If you have money, you can buy whatever you want.
>>71826791
>marry
even this way you aren't granted citizenship from the start, you have to see bureaucrats and prove to them you're actually living together as a family, jump through whatever hoop on command etc.
I have a friend that married into USA and got his citizenship some 7 years later because he skipped some shit he had to do, his marriage is for citizenship purposes only, they aren't even a couple or living together
>>71830709
7-10 is the average of how long it normally takes any other way. No loss there.
>>71830709
You don't get citizenship straight away but you do get a visa to stay and to legally work within 2-3 months.
Because this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
TL:DR Ted Kennedy made it harder for Europeans and Mexicans but easier for everyone else.
Marry someone in the USA (not hard, all girls here love british accents if you are normal looking)
Get a tech job and transfer to the American office
Two options, good luck
Learn Spanish and pretend you are from Mexico. If anyone questions your story, accuse them of racism and stereotyping your people.
