>two dudes playing with each other's peepees are my concern in some way
There are people on /pol/ who actually hold this view.
>>71824953
It IS a concern of mine because I wanna join in :^)
>>71824953
Exploring another man's anatomy is how we learn.
/pol is f&g
>>71824953
>two dudes sleeping together should have tax breaks for doing so
There are liberals who actually hold this view.
>>71824953
Yeah, all white men are gay. More news at 11.
>>71824953
No, but pretending that marriage isn't a special bond between between a man and a woman is my concern
>>71825205
Some Jews can be super cute. Shame they're cut tho :^)
>>71825315
Is it really that special?
c'mon now anon
>>71825205
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>71825315
>Marriage is a special bond between a man and a woman
Proofs?
>>71825289
I'm not a gay sympathizer, but gays would be mad as fuck if you could only receive tax breaks if you actually have or are currently expecting children.
I fully accept that people will do whatever makes them happy. I have no issue with that. That's acceptance.
I have the right to refuse to say that it's "right" or "good" if I so choose. That's endorsement.
Acceptance has been commonplace for quite some time. Coerced (and forced) endorsement is another matter altogether.
>>71825289
Seeing as how hetero couples get tax breaks for doing the same thing, yes they should.
>>71825306
Blacks are actually statistically most likely to be homosexual
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/black-gays-lgbt-community_n_1989859.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220120/White-people-likely-gay-Huge-study-reveals-highest-proportion-homosexual-people-African-American-community.html
>>71825315
Marriage hasnt been that for centuries. Its become little more than a glorified legal contract in exchange for visitation rights, power of attorney should your partner be incapacitated, and tax breaks. It's been this way long before faggots were even a regular thing.
>>71824953
how's tel aviv?
shalum
Nobody gives a shot that people are gay. We give a shit because they blast gay acceptance all over the media.
>>71824953
faggot
>>71825315
In our day and age a hetero marriage is basically less of a commitment than sharing a Netflix account.
>>71825315
If that were true people wouldn't get divorced. Marriage and love mean nothing and you know it.
>>71825431
>>71825465
The purpose of marriage is to have a secure foundation to raise kids in, not just an expensive procedure you go through to let everyone know how much you love your partner. Pretending that kids don't deserve both a mother and a father is inhuman
>>71825315
Special
>>71825654
Yeah, but, what if that was just all bullshit?
>>71825654
>The purpose of marriage is to have a secure foundation to raise kids in
Yeah, it surely works when women are whores and divorce you, take the kids and all your money to go fuck jamal and chad
>>71824953
>that flag
Rather hypocritical of you, Chaim.
>>71825315
Open your eyes Nigel, divorce happens all the time and cheating is widespread, it's been like that for a long time.
>>71825486
A broken system doesn't justify broken behavior. When you literally have to fall back on "its all fucked anyhow, why not?" you've already admitted that said behavior is just more kindling for the bonfire that is Western civilization, when what we need is water.
>>71825654
>The purpose of marriage is to have a secure foundation to raise kids in.
Says who? Besides why couldn't two males or two females raise kids together?
>>71825654
So you're in favor of outlawing single parents?
Because the social markers who show that monoparental homes are detrimental to childrens' welfare are way more solid than those which show the same about gay households.
>>71825818
>you've already admitted that said behavior is just more kindling for the bonfire that is Western civilization, when what we need is water.
No, what it needs is gasoline so it can all come crumbling down and be rebuilt.
Western society isnt worth saving anymore. The best thing to do at this point is purge it, start over, and learn from the mistakes of the past.
>>71825846
>So you're in favor of outlawing single parents?
Yes. Single fathers are bad enough, but single mothers are an absolute fucking disaster. That's not my opinion, those are official statistics.
>>71825693
>>71825739
>>71825749
>>71825783
Just because some people abuse the system doesn't mean you should just give up on the institution.
>>71825827
well certainly in the case of little boys, there's no greater way to guarantee they will become a criminal/alcoholic/drug user than letting them grow up without a dad
>>71825765
That's one guy and he was sentenced to life in prison. Israel gives complete equality to gays in virtually all legal matters. For the most part we just don't give a fuck.
>>71825941
How will you do that, except by banning divorce?
>>71825961
I'm just saying the institution itself is only as special as the relationship its applying to.
>>71825962
>That's one guy
And yet that never happens in any developed country, ever. Not even "just one guy". Care to explain? :^)
>two dudes playing with each other's peepees are my concern in some way
Said almost no one ever
But suddenly its become
Because 2 dudes play with each others balls, my business has to bow to their every fucking wish and they get special rights
I dont care if you touch another mans dick in private, i just dont want you telling me about it while you dance in the street or trying to tell kids its great
Nor do i want to be forced to accept your AIDs infested blood because telling you no would hurt your feelings
>>71826001
Bring back the days were divorce was such a huge social stigma and a pain in the ass that divorce rates were 5-10% rather than 50%. It's not a matter of legislature, it's a matter of bombing people with anti-divorce propaganda 24/7.
>>71826009
a majority of productive people who contribute to society are products of stable heterosexual parents
Its a shame that some retards abuse the institution but its the single greatest instituion for the development of society and abandoning it because of some las vegas faggot would be incredibly dumb
>>71824989
There's always room for one more. ;^)
>>71826009
To you, sure.
But to that guy, the institution of marriage is an ideal that may be unfortunately neglected by people today and throughout history. To him, it is something to strive for. Not just marriage, but his view of marriage.
Different folks see societal institutions in very different ways. They're a real symbol to some people, and not one to be swept away.
As for myself, I don't believe the federal government should be involved in recognizing the institution of marriage. I reckon it should be something handled purely by religious or social organizations. Not the federal government.
Of course, that gets a little fucky when it comes to inheritance and unwritten wills. Shame about that. Just make it a societal expectation to complete a thorough last will at the age of 18 and update it every year. How about that?
>>71826291
Noice :^)
>>71826058
We're a special country.
>>71826001
>>71826009
>>71825827
>>71825846
>>71825431
>>71825465
>>71825486
>>71825565
>>71825619
>>71825693
>>71825749
>>71825783
Years in the past....
>Hey guise? Wouldn't it be great if that rare 0.01% of good people who fuck up a marriage could get separated without social or legal repercussions?
>Yeah, lets DO IT!
Today
>Marriage doesn't mean anything, its all a big joke...
>Hey, Fags should get married too and receive tax breaks, since straight couples are getting divorced ALL the time.
>Yeah! Lets DO IT!
Progressive Not Even Once.
>>71826058
Gay bashing doesn't happen in the west? You're kidding me.
And yeah anyway public authorities can't give you full security. It can offer you restitution, which is what happened in that guy's case.
>>71826538
How many people fucked up a marriage back then? and why should society fuck you over for life if you got a partner that you don't like?
>>71824953
Homosexuals adopting and single mothers are causing the collapse of western society. So it does affect me.
>>71824953
Do they also play with each other's poo poos?
>>71826165
That's fine, but how would you go about enforcing it? Codify it into law which says that "divorce will carry social stigma"?
>>71826538
Once marriage was removed from the jurisdiction of religious authorities it's basically another public service. Like it or not, that's the way it is. If you want to bring it back under the exclusive domain of the church, that's fine by me, but it will never happen in any western country (that's how it is in Israel btw).
>>71826237
>>71826359
Oh fuck yourself dude. Maybe it's because you don't get out much but it's blatantly fucking clear that a huge amount of marriages end in divorce, and cheating is widespread.
It's only as special as the specfiic relationship you're looking at.
>>71826538
>he pretends dudes didn't cheat on their wives all the fucking time
>he doesn't know that the slutty secretary meme had huge basis in reality
Mentally ill hellbound reprobate sodomites spreading lethal contagions, corroding public mores, corrupting children, engaging in terroristic activism, denying scientific and moral reality, and demoralizing the people? Who cares?
>>71826165
Also keep in mind children can "happen" outside of a marital bond.
>>71824953
Always the jews...
>>71826058
It will in Europe now. Islam doesn't tolerate lgbtq's. I've already started attending a local mosque that was built recently with a lot of other young white folk from my area. The media and internet hasn't even picked up on this trend yet, but waves of the British population is literally turning to Islam. It's a based religion and it'll aid us in the end to degeneracy.
>>71824953
>Two dudes killing a man in their spare time concern me in some way
>>71827297
Fuck off paki
>>71827355
Blatant false dichotomy, you tried but it wasn't good enough.
>>71827355
>consensual sex = death
Just because your own sex life is dead, anon :^)
>>71826714
Just look at the chances of receiving a second divorce after the first?
Just look at the statistics of how much the current hook up culture corresponds with future failed relationship success?
These people are parasites. Fags and Liberal Hetero's alike. They don't produce children, increase current and future taxes to pay for their spending(money from the children they don't have), and instate all these incredibly stupid social policies that just makes things worse.
The incredible irony, is that these sympathetic failures need SOCIETY more then anybody, and all they do is pour their toxicity into it.
Its the mindset these people have adopted that is causing the mass failure of marriage. You needed to be careful, you needed to have a philosophical goal to work towards(that being family), NOT treating it like an amusement park ride.
Society isn't fucking anyone over.... Its "YOU" that's fucking society.
>>71827498
>increase current and future taxes to pay for their spending
How? I vote UKIP
>>71827498
>Just look at the statistics of how much the current hook up culture corresponds with future failed relationship success?
Divorce rates are falling and they certainly aren't on some unprecedented rise. Get the fuck over yourself.
>>71827498
You are switching cause and effect here. Society changed way, way before the legal code did.
>>71826924
>Some failures justify not trying
Explains your life.
>>71826837
That's why I'm all for removing the State from marriage. I don't want to make it illegal for gays to be married, the natural order will sort itself out.
>>71824953
>two dudes, 20 and 13, playing with each other's peepees are my concern in some way
There are people on /pol/ who actually hold this view.
>>71827708
I didn't say I wasn't going to try, I'm just saying don't act like marriage itself is some sacred bond.
>>71827735
Amazing analogy, I'm speechless.
>>71827708
>That's why I'm all for removing the State from marriage. I don't want to make it illegal for gays to be married, the natural order will sort itself out.
That's a way more reasonable position than trying to legislate the divorce rate away.
>>71827498
>Just look at the chances of receiving a second divorce after the first?
>Just look at the statistics of how much the current hook up culture corresponds with future failed relationship success?
Either culture changed or people never liked being in such long term relationships in the first place.
>>71827638
>According to The Pew Research Center, the data from 2012 illustrates a steady increase in the percentages of American men and women who are 25 years and older who have never been married. The same research shows that men are more likely than women to have never made it down the aisle (23% vs. 17%). The facts are clear that fewer people are getting married, the question as to why men are choosing not to in large numbers, remains a debate.
>Not wanting to tie the knot is not a concept limited within U.S. borders.
>According to the Office for National Statistics, marriage in Britain is at its lowest level since 1895. In 2011, there were just 286,634 ceremonies—a 41 per cent fall from 1972, when 480,285 couples were wed. Although not getting married has been a progression over the years, one of the most convincing reasons for men, specifically, is simply because they don’t need to.
>Read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/why-men-arent-getting-married-anymore-2/#ixzz46fDkI88g
Your right, people aren't even TRYING to get married or have families anymore.
>>71827663
They are bound together. Giving women the legal right to vote caused the alcohol ban, which caused the knee jerk backlash against "puritan culture", that lead to the sexual revolution of the 60s. Its of course ALOT more complicated then that, but it illustrates the point.
>>71828031
Humans are very clearly not a monogamous species and really only a fraction of people are capable of having a long term and successful relationship without cheating or large scale lying.
People need to stop trying to be something that we aren't.
>>71824953
>>>>>>>/lgbt
>>71828251
A lot of it is a financial issue.
http://www.bentley.edu/impact/articles/nowuknow-why-millennials-refuse-get-married
>>71828330
By that logic people are animals and I should have the right to kill them for food.
>>71825486
>hetero couples get tax breaks for doing the same thing
Yes, because there is a chance that by straight couples doing so children will be produced. The state is obviously interested in creating future tax payers to support its future existence.
The creation of future tax payers is arguably beneficial to current tax payers who will need those future ones to support the system of social benefits when this current generation is too old to work.
Paying homosexuals to live together is of no benefit to anyone and only bleeding heart morons support having the state pay for it.
>>71827788
If you don't treat it like a sacred bond, it doesn't even stay a ordinary bond. You gotta pull twice as hard philosophically, to just STOP the material worlds entropy.
>>71828031
>Culture chaged
I agree. Just like how Roman culture changed.
>people never liked
People don't fucking like anything, even their own body parts they'll hack off, if you encourage it.
>>71828497
>The creation of future tax payers is arguably beneficial to current tax payers who will need those future ones to support the system of social benefits when this current generation is too old to work.
>falling for the boomer ponzi schemes
Pensions won't be here in 25 years, the boomers will suck the money out and then abolish them
>>71828490
Nope, false equivalency. You fags need to stop equating murder with anything to do with relationships. It's a whole different situation.
>>71828501
Some weird form of slippery slope fallacy.
>>71824953
>tfw no husbando
>>71824953
Oy vey Schlomo! No shitposting on the Shabbat.
>>71828330
The human species wasn't meant to fly, we weren't meant to be peaceful else we'd have the same instincts as herbivores. We weren't meant to live in cold climates, or really even meant to spend large sums of our childhood being taught how to interrupt lines on a page.
The human brain is, first and foremost, a social tool. A tool that is conditioned to understand complex ideas. Taking the path of least resistance would have kept us in trees.
>>71828618
>slippery slope a fallacy
Its not.
>>71828251
>They are bound together. Giving women the legal right to vote caused the alcohol ban, which caused the knee jerk backlash against "puritan culture", that lead to the sexual revolution of the 60s. Its of course ALOT more complicated then that, but it illustrates the point.
Seems way too linear. Gay politics didn't arise from the sexual revolution but began in the late 1970s under its own particular context. Also keep in mind a lot of the early feminists weren't that fond of gay men, and gay men in general weren't fond of the socialist nanny state (some even protested against federal AIDS funding).
What you have today with the mainstream gay stuff, including gay marriage, is another development that wasn't part of the original gay movement.
>>71828753
This isn't something to do with technology like every other thing you just mentioned, this is simply about how human brains are wired to perceive human relationships.
>>71828868
Yeah it was, people have long term relationships that they don't see as sacred or magical all the time, an ordinary bond,
>>71824953
What if they're Jewish?
Oh and OPEN BORDERS FOR ISRAEL
>>71824953
Faggot kike kill yourself.
You parasitic subhuman race is responsible for the spread of faggotry and degeneracy
You should be gassed
>>71829091
>Greece
>bitching about gay stuff
>>71829169
Kikes are hella gay. Isn't Tel Aviv like the faggot capital of the world?
>>71829250
Yeah, and you people literally invented this shit.
>>71828618
Call logical fallacy all you like but we are watching the slippery slope in action. Its a long way down and the nation just keeps falling.
>>71828936
Once again, the human brain is a social tool capable of making long term decisions rather then short term gain. We are naturally lazy, but we work. Crave sugar, salt and fat, but many of us are in shape. Its been documented that when women are scared by a movie, they instinctively raise their feet off the ground, a call back to when we lived in trees and predators were around.... If we listened to this, " Homininae weren't made to walk across the savanna" we'd still be there.
>>71828916
I said it was a lot more complicated, hence not as linear. But there is a strong chain of events from this.
>>71828628
I'm liberal but I'd love to have a cute and caring natsoc bf :^)
ITT mad heterocucks
>>71829734
People work largely because they have to pay bills and buy food, it's not something that most people like to do most of the time.
We can do things against are nature, but I'm telling you right now that this doesn't often work. People don't go into relationships wanting it to fail or not caring if it fails, it fails later on by accident. This happens all the fucking time anon.
>>71828936
Also
>all the time
There is a direct correlation with the more frivolous people treat relationships. The greater the chance of separation.
>>71830183
In all likelihood, happiness is the independent variable, success rate and number of partners are the dependent variables. There is no evidence that number of partners causes marriages to fail, there is plenty of evidence that unhappiness and depression causes marriages to fail.
Notice these faggots are niggers. THere is much truth in this
>>71830334
They are digletts you colossal cum-guzzling faggot.
>>71824953
>two people deciding to cut each other's body parts off and eating them are my concern in some way
>two people who graft metal exoskeletons over their real skeletons and play dodgeball with giant electromagnets are my concern in some way
>two people who are genderfluid bianimal sexual dragons who fuck each other with meter long poles cover in peanut butter are my concern in some way
Listen buddy, society has to function, we want to advance forward and do better things. Faggots are way too obsessed with being faggots, be productive, nobody actually cares what you do, but if you define yourself by your sexual orientation then seriously kill yourself. Any idiot can fuck any other idiot, congratulations youre both retards.
There are p
>>71830492
look like niglets to me
>>71830492
LeL
Remember goys, AshkeNazis are confirmed Greek/IndoAryan hybrids now.
>>71830160
It fails because they are stupid and self destructive. They have always been stupid and self destructive unless told, for example, to treat marriage as a sacred bond. This has been the case for ALL morality, and hence why we consider degenerates, psychopaths and others as the lowest thing to be.
Your arguing for sin anon. For humanity to cast off the perceived shackles and expectations of morality, embrace "INSTINCT" and subsequently descend into the historic chaos that has resulted from it.
There really nothing for us to discuss.
>>71830714
>things that are not bullshit
>>71830741
God man you really are socially retarded.
These people KNOW that you want them to treat marriage as a sacred bond, that's not the problem. The problem is you can't just make people feel things that they don't feel.
A lot of people don't want to get married because they know it will probably fail, deal with it.
Sin isn't real, don't talk about tenets of a Roman death cult as if it has some authority.
>>71830741
And as I pointed out earlier, marriage is being put off largely because of financial difficulties, it's not even disillusionment with the idea of marriage in a lot of cases.
http://www.bentley.edu/impact/articles/nowuknow-why-millennials-refuse-get-married
>>71824953
If I don't have to know about it then I can't care about it. I care because they do it in public and act as though it's a good thing
>>71830322
Unhappiness is generally a result from ones decisions. But if what your saying is true, then people are going to be miserable REGARDLESS if they get a divorce, fag marriage, or what ever concession is granted to them... At the price of stability.
Infact, I'd as far to say, that a persons general happiness is thereby predetermined, and hence all progressive legislate changes to make people's lives better is for naught. If we force people to stay togeather and treat marriage as a sacred bond, we'll increase GDP(divorce is expensive) and they'll be just the same.
>>71830007
What's your opinion on Owen Jones? He's cuuuuuuuuute :^)
>>71831482
>If we force people to stay togeather and treat marriage as a sacred bond, we'll increase GDP(divorce is expensive)
It creates jobs for lawyers, though.
>>71831615
>we'll increase GDP(divorce is expensive)
"Expenses decrease GDP - hoard all your money to help the economy boom!" -- /pol/
>>71831201
Ya, gay people are constantly sucking eachothers dicks in broad daylight..
Get your fucking priorities together. We got a Muslim invasion of our homeland happening and you are bitching about gay people.
>>71827472
gay sex is actually pretty good at killing pepole
it creates diseases that usually only develope in third world countries that have little to no sanitation and it might just rupture your colon
>>71827832
You just missed the point, jude.
>>71831053
>>71831133
>people don't want to get married cause they know it'll fail
>NO, I mean people aren't getting married because of finical difficulties
>No wait, a persons predetermined emotional state will affect how they approach relationships, and miserable will sleep around and get divorced. While these same people who stay togeather will still be miserable, regardless
>insults
Somebody's a bit inconsistent.
>>71827173
not an argum
>>71831860
I don't think sex actually creates diseases, but I wouldn't expect /pol/ perma virgins to know that :^)
On the other hand, I hate gays who have unprotected sex and they deserve AIDS :^)
>>71826714
>How many people fucked up a marriage back then? and why should society fuck you over for life if you got a partner that you don't like?
>>71826538
>>Marriage doesn't mean anything, its all a big joke...
You didn't even read the post. What you said was literally, "Why shouldn't you be able to get divorced if you made a bad choice, it's not like it's that important anyways."
>>71831615
yes israel
it does create jobs for your people
>>71824953
I always wondered this
Are those noses or mouths?
>>71832321
Bulbapedia says it's a nose.
>>71832054
look for anti-biotic resistant iforgott its name
bleeding colons ate a perfect enviroment for bacteria and shit
>>71832189
I already responded to his argument in later posts. And that initial post was just a mockery about how progressives past screw ups, are today's justifications for more progress.
>>71832438
>look for anti-biotic resistant
Stop trying to hook me up with your mom, you cheeky cunt :^)
>>71828618
>humans are obviously like other animals, but only in ways convenient to my cause
>>71830322
>there's no correlation there because... uh, reasons!
>>71824989
I came here to post this.
>>71833490
You slut :^)
ive fucked a lot of boi pussy in my time, and i gotta say the best type is the tight little cunts of straighties who seem to have a chip on their shoulders. i remember this twink faggot i made cry, quite like the faggots on this board actually, always going on about the j00s and how theyre preventing him from finding the perfect waifu. well, thats what he was bitching about when i busted a bleeding nut right up into his stomach. if any of you neonazi faggots want a real man to come set your straight, just go and ask a real chad if he wouldn't mind 'showing' you the ropes
>>71834845
I have the weirdest boner now :^)
>>71834845
>Australia
>that post
>browses /pol/
B-boyd??
>>71826924
>he thinks women actually care about getting cheated on
>he doesn't know women get turned on when their man fools around
>>71830322
I've dated a party slut.
Her "unhappiness" in our relationship was directly related to the amount of regret she had from past relationships.
We couldn't drink alcohol without her feeling guilty the next day. We couldn't even fuck properly because she used to be a slut, and now wants to pretend to be a "good girl."
I see this with many relationships. If women would just wait until marriage to explore their sexuality they could actually enjoy it with their husband for the rest of their lives.
If you partake in a blow bang with your slutty girlfriends in college, you'll never be able to give your husband a loving blowjob. You'll avoid sex, because you don't want to feel like a whore, and you ruin the relationship for everybody.
God damn women are retarded.
