While white power Americans and nazi European dream about a Islamist world, a authoritarian and religious fascists system with a strong leadership,
and admire islamists for actually establishing their utopia around the world, people who love liberty gathered today in Essen to oppose Islamism.
This took place after Islamists from a local dawa/missionary group called "Lies!"(ger.: "read!") attacked a Sikh temple with explosives. Furthermore we are working on a broad alliance of different antifa groups, which would also include returnees from Rojava, to fight islamists in the Ruhrgebiet like nazis, by violence.
Meanwhile stormfags sit at home and dream about a islamic Europe.
>>71821829
>>71821829
>nazi European dream about a Islamist world
>admire islamists
>to fight islamists
>dream about a islamic Europe.
ahmet pls get the fuck off this board
>Antifa
>Not totalitarian fascists
Wew
>Implying I can not find litterally millions of instances of you cucks defending mudslimes
Antifa demonstrating against actual fascists? I don't really know what to do with these feels senpai.
>>71821829
Pitting your enemies against each other?
Sounds like a perfectly German thing to do
Fight Nation and Ummah!
>>71821940
Ofc. they represent all values european nazis dream about. It's fascism with a new livery.
Or why are you faggots not doing anything against it?
>>71822046
>>71822069
>stormfaggots think THE antifa exists and it's not a decentralized movement consisting of different groups with different ideologies
Fantastic.
Islamists infiltrate far left political parties undermining voter support.
Antifa fights Islamists
The political right fights cultural marxists
The EU steady dissolves as individual countries push for more autonomy
Europe could be great again within 20 years.
Islamists are exactly what the modern antifa has been fighting for.
And the DDR controlled version of them did much the same thing by attacking anyone standing against the USSR.
>>71822133
>commieboo thinks that antifaggots are really freedom fighters and not basically people who want to reduce freedoms for others because MUH FEELS
Oh wow, literally tell me more senpai
>>71822347
>people who want to reduce freedoms for others because MUH FEELS
I bet you think the "liberals" and sjws from Murica are THE antifa :^)
>>71822306
The antifascist movement in Syria is the main opponent of isis/islamists, you stupid moron.
>>71822434
>There is no centralized control only loose association, so totalitarian people can't be all for same totalitarian freedom inhibiting ideals, trust me guise
>>71821829
hahaha, what?
so anti-fa gets culturally enriched and all of a sudden they're against muslim immigration?
what a bunch of fuck tards
>maybe the nazi's were right
t. anti-fa
>>71822515
And what about the antifa movement in your backyard, Wahab Al-Berlini?
Antifa is the new fascism, at least here in italy, they are violent with anyone disagreeing with them and litter every fucking clean wall with their bullshit. I am sick and tired of these people.
They are getting to the point of false flagging and getting caught, but nothing happens.
>>71822611
There is not even a main ideology groups, who call themselves antifa(because basically anyone can call himself antifa), follow.
Why should it be totalitarian, you stupid moron?
There isn't a international party membership book with a program.
>>71822724
There are dozens of different antifa groups, in the West we are mostly fighting and opposing islamists, don't have connections to Berlin, because only Hipster-Hamas sympathizer faggots live there.
>>71822772
You do realize that you are literally identical to the faggots who say that ISIS isn't Islamic because there isn't a Muslim Pope who has said that infidels should be killed and their lands conquered, but Muslims are only loosely associated with one another.
They all think like it, so it doesn't have to have a centralized control you fucking retard.
>>71822813
>in the West we are mostly fighting and opposing islamists
No you aren't, you are mostly busy screaming down to anyone not being a commie.
I have met a few and i am actually convinced this is a mental illness.
>>71822813
>Against Islamists
Oy vey, you nazi. Not all muslims!
Quick, start the counter march before another Shoah starts!
>>71821829
Wait, antifas who are actually opposing islamism? Holy shit! That's the first time I hear about something like that, usually they tend to oppose European right-wing movements while completely ignoring or denying islamic violence.
Also, that sikh temple explosion actually turned out to be done by muslims? I remember speculation that it was some neo-nazis who had mistaken sikhs for muslims.
>>71821829
> Post Antifa manifestation with 20 people
> Ignore PEGIDA or any Nationalist protest with thousands of people and say 'Nationalists want an Islamist world!"
Antifa coherence guys
>>71822069
I wanna put a fucking boot through that fake skinhead's face
>>71821829
ok ahmed
>>71822515
The main opponent of IS in syria is Assad
the rebels form loose alliances all the time
>>71822973
You moron,
not all Muslims are Islamists, just as most Christians don't end up in Konys army.
But we can say islamic extremism is a higher threat today than christian extremism, because we tamed Christianity in the past. Taming Islam is what people are afraid of.
>>71823030
>I remember speculation that it was some neo-nazis who had mistaken sikhs for muslims.
Nah that's just the headline that you use to spread disinfo.
I bet german mass medias told the "nazis so dumb they mistake sikhs for muslims and bomb innocent people" story countless times, but when the truth checked in reached way less people.
>>71823180
Your ignorance is showing, Christian reformation brought Christianity back from it's Spanish inquisition days to the word of the book. The Islamic reform brought it back from it's secularized and westernized form back to 7th century barbarism.
There is no reform for Islam, because it already happened you fucking loon.
>>71823030
>Wait, antifas who are actually opposing islamism? Holy shit! That's the first time I hear about something like that, usually they tend to oppose European right-wing movements while completely ignoring or denying islamic violence.
As I said many times before:
THE antifa doesn't exist, there are differnt groups with different ideologies.
The biggest schism is cultural relativism.
And yes, the sikh temple explosion turned out to be done by Islamists from the dawa movement "Lies!"
>>71823180
Hi, you must be new here and it's like you find Antifa to be largely noble.
You may not like it here, you'll end up seeing the pattern. Antifa doesn't really oppose Islamism, that's what Pegida does. The ones that Antifa routinely marches against, throws bottles and fireworks at, all that sort of thing.
Only when Antifa does it, they're standing up against evil right wing nazis.
When anyone else does what they do, it's 3rd Reich from the sun part 2: Electric bugaloo.
Antifa are part of the problem.
>>71821829
ridiculous
>>71823359
>Antifa doesn't really oppose Islamism, that's what Pegida does
Taditional antifa opposes Islamism and Nationalism. That's why we fight nation AND ummah.
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend when he is my enemy at the same time.
>this thread
>>71823586
>Kurdish commies fight ISIS
LOOK ERRYBODY WE R DA GOOD GYUS!
But we have no association with each other in any way, BUT LOOK AT HOW SOME PEOPLE SOMEWHERE DO THINGS! WE ARE THOSE SAME THINGS! THOUGH WE ARE NOT IN ANY WAY THOSE THINGS!
Is being Antifa always this incoherent?
>>71823346
>Spanish inquisition days
The spanish inquisition was criticized by the catholic church precisely for being too soft and offering penitence and forgiveness to heretics which was not the way of the holy scriptures, as opposed of the traditional medieval inquisition which was more about witch hunting and burning people alive.
You're right in your statement, just wanted to clarify that point.
>>71821829
>strawman cuck edition
>>71821829
>mfw the "Nous Sommes Charlie" flag.
>>71823921
I'm a Kurd living in Germany, some of my cousins and brothers are in Rojava and most Antifa groups over here in Western Germany are filled with Kurds.
What's your problem, you cannot accept that we Antifas are actually fighting Islamists and you don't?
>>71821829
>He keeps posting it over and over again
>for free
top lel m8
>>71824306
>tfw he gets no hot pockets for this
>>71824306
What's more politically incorect than speaking the truth in a fascist dominated political board?
>>71824220
'n scheiss kurde. verpiss dich aus meinem land scheiss hakennase
>>71824447
Aber Hans, wer soll eure Frauen sonst vor meuchelnden Islamofaschisten schützen?
>>71824220
So NOW you are THE antifa? I thought there wasn't THE antifa? Or are you just a Kurdish commie fighting for commie things, but want to have smelly hippies as friends so you associate with antifas? But still want to be cool, so you say that you aren't antifa because there is no THE antifa?
You should see a doctor, and then a gas chamber.
>>71822133
>Ummah
>literally a border-less society of race-mixing Muslims
>he thinks Nazis dream about this
Kill yourself pedophile Achmed.
>>71824576
auf jedenfall kein dreckiges kurdenschwein
>>71824576
Get out of his land Kurd >>>71824447
>>71824415
>muh ebil fascists
Fascism is superior ideology to nigger-communism in every single way.
>>71824579
You inch pincher, I never doubted I'm part of the antifascist movement. I call myself antifascist and so do many other people, but many ideologies have a antifascist claim and not all people have the same ideology...is it really so difficult?
>>71824630
Sondern der verpickelte Hans, der nicht einmal 3 Liegestützten schafft, dafür aber 100 verschiedene Anime-Handlungsstränge vortragen kann? Du weißt doch nicht einmal wie eine Waffe bedient wird, wen willst du schützen?
>>71824857
>muh you are a communist because you are antifa
Get your shit together, communism isn't the only ideology opposing fascism. Pic related was a joke btw.
>>71823355
>>THE antifa doesn't exist, there are differnt groups with different ideologies.
If THE antifa doesn't exist then how can you so readily paint nationalists and fascists with the same brush?
>>71824975
Hitler warned us of people like who
>>71824928
wie wärs wenn du das unser problem sein lässt und du dich irgendwo von nem türkischen panzer für deinen kurdenstaat zerfetzen lässt?
>>71824975
Your antifa is a joke.
>>71825060
Where did I paint nationalists and fascists with the same brush? There is a difference and both words aren't interchangeable.
I oppose fascism, sadly most nationalists tend to fascism and later end up with a fascist mindset, just like many lefties tend to authoritarian approaches and would love to suck Stalins dick and drink a beer with hamas functionaries.
>>71825103
>Kurden leben nur in der Türkei
Wieso wundert es mich nicht, dass du bildungsfern bist?
Das Problem welches wir seit Jahrhunderten mit Islamisten haben ist nun zu eurem Problem geworden und da ich hier lebe habe ich gleich 2 Probleme mit Islamisten: in der alten und in der neuen Heimat.
>>71825357
>neue heimat
na deutschland wirst ja sicher nicht damit meinen
und wir haben zusätzlich noch kurden als problem
>>71825256
>While white power Americans and nazi European dream about a Islamist world, a authoritarian and religious fascists system with a strong leadership,
and admire islamists for actually establishing their utopia around the world
Your very first sentence. I'm sure there are some radicals that think like that, but if /pol/ is anything to measure by the majority are vehemently opposed to the Islamic Takeover. Just because your interests align with that of the "fascists" doesn't mean they automatically support the opposite point of view.
>>71825524
>na deutschland wirst ja sicher nicht damit meinen
Natürlich, habe hier Familie, die Schule besucht, studiert, meine Frau getroffen und mich selbstständig gemacht. Welche neue Heimat meine ich wohl?
>>71825524
Deutschland hat ein Faschismus Problem, sei es nationaler od. religiöser Natur.
>>71824975
>Get your shit together, communism isn't the only ideology opposing fascism.
Why do retards like you always forget that the causal relationship in actuality is that fascism was and is a counterweight to the existing Marxist and communist ideology?
>>71825892
Which communist and especially Marxist movement did Mussolini counter in Italy?
>>71826041
Communist:Amadeo Bordiga and Antonio Gramsci were leaders of the Communist Party of Italy in this period whose members engaged in civil violence against Fascists.
>>71826183
And they fought the Fascists before the Fascists were created in order to counterweight the attacks on Fascists?
>>71826370
No. Sorta.
After WW1. Anarchists and criminals flourished in Italy, along with communists rising in numbers and being opportunistic among the destruction. Fascism was a response to all three parties and tried to bring order and smash all three.
Arditi del Popolo (People's Militia): Guido Picelli was the deputy of a coalition formed in 1921 between various anti-Fascist groups including Malatesta's anarchists and Gramsci's communists among others including futurists, republicans, and syndicalists.
>>71823586
>Traditional Antifa
That's just the DDR, they oppose Germans.
Starting to think you're new to the country if not/also 13.
>>71825837
keine ahnung, weil deutschland nicht deine heimat ist und niemals sein wird.
>selbstständig gemacht
wusste garnicht das man sich als straßenfeger selbstständig machen kann. zu mehr dürfte es ja nicht reichen mit nem durchschnitts iq von 85 bei kurden
>>71826830
>wusste garnicht das man sich als straßenfeger selbstständig machen kann. zu mehr dürfte es ja nicht reichen mit nem durchschnitts iq von 85 bei kurden
Wenn du etwas sinniges studierst ist es in Deutschland sogar recht leicht sich selbstständig zumachen, dank Exist-Gründerstipendium kriegst du sogar noch einen Zuschuss :)
>keine ahnung, weil deutschland nicht deine heimat ist und niemals sein wird.
Aber Deutschland ist bereits meine Heimat, Hans.
Definition von Heimat:
"das Land oder die Gegend, wo man geboren und aufgewachsen ist oder wo man sich zu Hause fühlt, weil man schon lange dort wohnt."
>>71826685
“Islam ostracizes the nation of the unbelievers and creates a state of permanent enemyship between the moslems and the unbelievers.”
- Karl Marx (1818-1883)
>>71827172
>citing Marx
>in defense of Antifa
wew lad
>>71821829
What the shit, Antifa literally paved the way to Islamic Europe:
>you guys push and still pushing for open boarders
>you guys praise the leaders that push the policies that allow this to happen
>you stood up to "nazi's" that tried to prevent this
>you celebrated when the refugee's started to poor in
>Now, months later, you blame the very people who warned you and tried to stop this
What a sick joke antifa are to be this disconnected.
>>71827354
inb4 #NotAllANTIFA
>>71827235
You doubted traditional antifascists oppose Islamism, I gave you a quote from a man most antifascist look upon to refute your claim.
Damn, don't they teach you anything besides cheese making and smoking weed in NL?
>>71822069
more minarets for Switzerland
They are banned by law here
>>71827056
nein, in wirklichkeit hast du GARKEINE heimat. wir deutsche hassen dich und wollen dich nicht hier und deine leute hassen dich dafür das du sie im stich gelassen hast
>>71827354
>>you guys praise the leaders that push the policies that allow this to happen
Which leaders were pushed by "the" Antifa?
>>you stood up to "nazi's" that tried to prevent this
We stood and stand up to nazis and islamists who want to take away our freedoms and liberal rights.
>>you celebrated when the refugee's started to poor in
Not true at all, because the most effective medicine for the refugees crisis would be to fix the problem at the root. Again, stupid generalization.
>>Now, months later, you blame the very people who warned you and tried to stop this
Not true at all, at least in Germany the Antifa movement was the first movement to fight against Islamism (stupid Nazis wanting to kill ALL muslims aren't part of the fight against Islamism). The enemies remained the same:
Fascists, be it religious or nationalist fascists.
>>71827470
Marx, the basis for the NSDAP and the USSR and plenty of other "they're not fascists because they're communists and not all Communists are evil my perfect Communism has never been tried but all National Socialists are the devil incarnate" governments and movements.
In defense of Antifa.
Not just Antifa, but pure USSR/DDR joint effort "Fuck the German people, kill them all and if they ever question us send them to a prison camp" Antifa.
The same sort of Antifa that is now and always has been thought police.
The same ones that always show up to anti-Islamization marches to clash with anti-Islamization protesters.
The same ones that support pro-muslim rallies even when they're trying to push false flags against anyone slightly right of them and keeping silent about Muslims unless it's talking about Palestine or perhaps 'we stand with because racists will use this event against them'.
Is this the Antifa you're referring to?
The Antifa that certainly derives itself directly and unwavering from Marx?
Wow friend, you need to head over to the East and ask them what they think of Antifa.
>>71827667
>GARKEINE
Es heißt "gar keine", Hans, du beherrschst ja noch nicht einmal die Sprache, auf die du vermutlich so stolz bist.
Ich habe viele deutsche Freunde, meine Freundin ist bspw. auch Deutsch, die mich nicht hassen. Genau so habe ich viele kurdische Freunde, die immer noch in Syrien leben und mich ebenfalls nicht hassen :)
Und ja, das hier ist meine Heimat und ich werde sie vor hassenden und kontraproduktiven Elementen wie dich, andere Nazis und Islamisten schützen :)
>>71821829
Lol, k you fucking leftist faggot. See how quickly you will be sucking big brown Islamist cock when the far-right kicks your asses in Europe. Fucking homo.
>>71824415
You seem to think fascism=right leaning, that's not what it means.
>>71821829
Antifa are the faggots who brought them in
>>71822138
And then back to the eternal war.
>>71828311
No, I don't think this way.
The democratic rightwinged movement deserves the same rights as the democratic leftwinged movement, everything undemocratic is to condemn,
>>71827692
>Which leaders were pushed by "the" Antifa?
C'mon you guys are Chancellor Angela Merkel brown shirts
>We stood and stand up to nazis and islamists who want to take away our freedoms and liberal rights.
You harras anyone who doesn't fully lockstep with your views
>Not true at all
could of fooled me comrade
>>71822069
Typical mancs (Manchester folk), all colourful and pseudo intellectual with their art and womens studies major. Avoid Manchester at all costs it's a paki marxist utopia
>>71821829
>antifa shroud and protect muslims using dumb uni students
>call themselves liberators and state they oppose islam
yep, mentally unstable
>>71828825
>not knowing the difference between islam and islamism
>>71829080
Oh I do. Islam is the religion, Islamism is the practice of Islam.
>>71829080
>islam isnt Arabic nationalism
Why is it that the quran is only able to be read in context in arabic
>>71827692
fighting fascism by acting like lefty fascists = antifa
This is just some weird German pro-Israel off shoot of Antifa.
>>71829353
What ever it is it is it's own special kind of retarded
>>71821829
I think you are confused young man
