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How old were you when you grew out of the STEM meme?


I was 19. Late bloomer, I know.
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It's funny because it's true. Most STEMfags think they're something special, but in fact they're barely anything more than functioning autists
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I know its bait but god damn its some tasty bait.
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A BA would be pretty hard for someone good at something useful. I couldn't do it. Wait no actually I could and it's easy. Nevermind.

Do you have a terminal illness or something fellow leaf?
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Also, keep in mind..

If your mom and dad think you're "really good at computers" you probably are underachieving or autistic. Don't fall for the computer jew
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>>71818805
kek
The author probably has never done any real math or science on an academic level, especially in post grad level.
I guess they compare solving some quadradic equations in high school to their university work
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If you were any good at writing you probably wouldn't be at a tabloid.
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>>71818805

>literally says getting drunk and skimming sparknotes is harder than genuine science coursework

This b8 aint too gr8 m8
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>>71818928
This. But lets be honest

/pol/ doesn't have strawmen. /pol/ has Ptompkin Villages made of straw, great tapestries, culture, inter-straw strain grainism. It doesn't just have straw men and women, it has reached population density to the point there are straw Gay men and Straw Dykes. Even Straw Trannys.

that being said, what OP really said would be more like "look at this stupid kike"

Seriously, I can fake a english degree with enouigh weed. Can you fake a math degree with adderal?
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>>71819222
>Can you fake a math degree with adderal?

I wouldn't count on it
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>>71818805
No bachelors degree is difficult. My first time having to try was my masters program.
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>>71818805
>the tab
fuck right off
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>>71818996
That was close to home.
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>>71819222
Math requires the understanding of many systems built on each other, complete understanding of intermediate steps are a requirement to pass. Sure you can fluke a few tests on adderall but later on you need to understand.
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>>71818805
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3436121/Student-21-webbed-toes-horrified-Google-foot-fetish-website.html

WEBBED TOES.
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>>71819222
adderal wont give you knowledge to pass math degree
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>>71819222
>Can you fake a math degree with adderal?
With four years worth you could.
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So why do most workplaces favour Bscs over the BAs? The article reads like a half-assed bait, but but if I had to give a proper answer, the private sector is not wrong.
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when the fuck will fast food and other entry jobs be automated?

I'm tired of entitled high schoolers/college students getting jobs with no skill requirement whats so ever
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>>71820450

Just some angry BAs major cunt trying to justify her poor life choices and make herself feel better.
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>implying writing is hard

nigger I would write 2000 word essays in a day in college and I almost never got below a 90
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>>71820622

I'm 100% sure it's bait. Nobody is that retarded.
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>>71819222
>Seriously, I can fake a english degree with enouigh weed. Can you fake a math degree with adderal?
Best post I've in a long time, anon. Well done.
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>>71819222

Sneak into STEM and they'll figure out within seconds that you're bullshitting. Sneak into Liberal Arts and they won't even catch on after you wrote 2 books and 8 papers on the subject.
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I will not take this bait
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>>71820643
i still dont get one thing.
>rushed essay full of bs and fallacies and few sprinkles of feminist agenda = 90%

>well thought out, sound arguments and proofs =70%
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>finishing off a BSc
>take a Contemporary Literature subject as an elective
>involves critical analysis of novels, and a short creative writing part
>get a High Distinction
>all the aspiring writers struggle to break a Credit

Yeah, cool.
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>>71820965
when you write anything you need to think about your audience first before anything else
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>>71819576
>horrified to find her body had been posted
>disappointed to find it had been rated merely 2.5 out of 5

Reads like an onion article from days past
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>>71820710

It's hard to tell what's bait and what's not these days. People legit think that if they go do an arts degree they will be the next Vincent van Gogh just because they can paint a fucking picture. In reality, nobody fucking needs an over-glorified faggot that can use a brush.

I only know of one friend who seems to be somewhat successful for doing an arts degree. This guy did some music degree in college. But he has been producing music since he was 15. Had a contract with some publishing company before he even started Uni. Had contacts etc.

Majority of the cunts that do arts degree are just there because it's "fun" - they have 0 commitment or dedication.
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>>71819576
I actually have this

AMA
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>>71818805
The ability to write streams of autistic bullshit isn't a talent. If it was, 99.999% of /pol/ would have collected their noble peace prize in literature years ago. Fucking faggots.

STEM ftw.

a = a + 1;
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Thinking education can make any personality type rich.

Thinking STEM is bad because not everyone who graduates is rich.

The fact of the matter is McEng, MEng, CEng ect. are the heart of most business cases.

If a programmer has a head on his shoulders he could make millions instead of £30k a yr from a company.

I negotiated % return on development with my MD. I know that something I make could keep the business going for another 10+ yrs.
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>claims BAs are difficult
>uses Sparknotes

What a retard. I have a degree in English Literature, and it was easy as fuck. The humanities have become too softened and feminized. Most of my classes were asinine SJW bullshit, so I dropped them, and the classes I took in their places were a cakewalk.

I spent four years dicking around in college, and I ended up with a 3.89 GPA thanks to nothing but common sense, charisma, and planning. No actual work required.
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>>71820965
Proofs and facts are rasis
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>>71818805
>Just because you can balance equations doesn't mean you can write a sentence, hun.

I fucking hate this type of snobby contentious journalism so god damn much.
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>>71818805
Amazing bait. Brb, gonna go post this on Fagbook.
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>>71819929
I can see that fageau-chan doesn't have a english degree either.

GO back to francechan.

>>71819975
To be fair, yeah, but it'd fuck your body. Speaking from experience. A few weeks worth of binges would be like months of study, esp if you did it healthy with equal on/off and never going over 48 hours up.

>>71820748
Thank you. I'd like to thank canada for proving that even though they're our hat, jokes can still fly right over them

Guess that's how 9/11 happened to.

>>71820859
>German autisically quotes XKCD.

Yes, but i was making a different point. I'm actually a big fan of arts (specifically martial arts and the history associated with them), But even that is something that charismatic idiots have managed to take sway in (Hint - he trained most of his life in hong kong acting. Not martial arts.)

There's less of that in math and science. Not to say it doesn't have problems LIKE that, but there's industries built around science working. Then Liberal Arts majors tell them that they need more Liberal Arts Majors to tell them about Liberal Arts and Liberal Arts Accessories.
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>>71820589
Already happening. I'd give it 2 or 3 years before most menial labor is replaced with automation.
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>tfw youre playing into the Stem meme

Any chance to work on cars or weapons for the country makes me happy.
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>>71818805

Oh don't mind me I'm just doing my easy Thermo II homework. It's so easy, glad I'm not a literature major.
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>>71818805
18 for me, left the STEM for philosophy and poly sci.

>tfw just want that Christopher Hitchens eloquence and vast knowledge to draw upon when writing
;_;
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>studying art is harder than understanding aerophysics

Quality bait,OP.
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all my liberal arts GEs were a cakewalk
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>>71822198
gotta start drinking and smoking then
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>>71818805
>BAs are much harder than BScs
meaningless things are pretty hard to get a predictable grade on
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>>71821992
How does adderal help you understand anything?
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I can see how actually creating good art could be harder but studying art is easy as shit
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Yes faggots. Don't do STEM. Please. The less of you cunts getting a degree in a STEM field means more job openings for the ones who do. Get yourselves in huge debt from student loans for a female studies major and end up with a job at starbucks.
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>>71822128
>Gibbs free energy
>difficult
Come on now.
Do I have to post my notes from when we did quantum field theory?
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>>71818805

Because knowing the difference between who and whom is going to engineer bridges and develop agriculture.
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>>71822128
The reality is that law degrees are harder than both by a significant margin. Law is probably the most challenging degree you can acquire and easily worse than medicine.
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>>71822891
Nigga,are you serious even? What could possibly be difficult about a law degree?
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>>71823026
>What could possibly be difficult about a law degree?
It's the art of jewish sorcery.
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>>71823026
well sure law in Russia is pretty laughable but in Britain its incredibly tough. You have to be able to do anything a BA might require of you while also being able to present and have no time to think about any query you might be given in a court hearing (which is why they have so many exams compared to other BAs). Judges, solicitors and barristers are probably the smartest and most capable speakers and thinkers in the world.
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>>71821407
Bitch I have two of them faggit
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>>71822615
If you' like, that sounds like an interesting read. of course that's implying your notes aren't the chicken scratch and despair that is my notes.
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>>71822615

When you're first learning it is. Sure, for someone with a 150 IQ or who already knows Gibbs it's not difficult, but don't pretend it's not a difficult concept for most engineers.
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>>71823317
No,no,no,no,I'm not talking about how hard a job it is. I'm talking about the education,there are almost no fields in which education = actual work. My question was - why is getting an education(specifically,law degree) hard? And our law might be even more tough than yours,btw,since most of it was written by incredibly incompetent people and understanding what exactly are the laws even is an art in it's own right.
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>>71818805
the BA/BS divide is purely arbitrary and means nothing.


you've played yourself
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>>71818805
I guess they have to sleep at night somehow, utter bullshit
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>>71823317

>learning and understanding Jewish trickery is more difficult than STEM

Please stop kidding yourself.
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>>71818805
>BA
Easy
Doesn't contribute much to society

>BS
Hard
Contributes a whole lot to society

Kind of proves which one's superior.
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>>71821481
a++; you fucking degenerate
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>>71823522
>first year type thermo is hard
Is American education seriously this bad? I've never heard of any student here having problems with Gibbs.
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>>71823661
Does Romania standardize what can or cannot be called a BS/BA?
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>>71823573
Law is difficult in Britain because there isn't a written constitution and it is reformed weekly. Getting a law degree is hard because you have to be able to answer complicated questions on the spot and have reasons and references to back it up. Of course these are all subject to debate themselves so you are literally on the spot trying to outwit the person asking you who may have decades more experience. Also a lot of the law overlaps which is confusing and its often not intuitive. Trying to learn anything that is counter-intuitive is much harder.
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"It's time to accept the truth" is liberal slang for "it's time to lie to ourselves even more"
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>>71818805
>STEMfags BTFO
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>>71819273
underrated bongpost
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>>71823492
Brother
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>>71818996

Damnit I was always confused as to why my dad kept saying I should go in to computers and stuff and I was good at them when I was never interested in that stuff at all
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>>71823849
>Getting a law degree is hard because you have to be able to answer complicated questions on the spot and have reasons and references to back it up

So you are required to learn a bunch of stuff and to be able to remember it on the spot? Then it's about as hard as getting a degree in medicine,which is pretty hard,I'll admit.
>Trying to learn anything that is counter-intuitive is much harder.
Yes,my friend,and quantum physics are intuitive. and easy to relate to.
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>>71818805
Haven't grown out of it yet. In fact, I'm going to do undergrad biology research within the next year. :^)
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>>71819483
It's ok, I have a diploma in IT and 4 years of dank web experience that I got jewed into thinking was a good idea.

Do something cool with your career, shitpost on forums and play vidya when you get home.
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>>71823829
Yeah, we have Uman Profile (BA) and Real Profile (BS).
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>>71818805
Just look at the spelling, punctuation and general comprehension of the Internet Age community, as evidence to the voracity of this article.
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>I chose a shit major that lleaves me feeling un accomplished

>let me post an article with zero research into these fields that make me feel bad and say my field is harder

XD
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>>71824021
That kind of negative reinforcement sticks. Trust me, I know. I completely turned my academic and professional life around when I found something I actually gave a fuck about. I can't really blame my teachers and parents having no confidence in me, I smoked weed and got straight C's and D's in highschool
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>>71822615
>>71822128

>Gibbs free energy
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>>71818805
>BA
>HARD
this is bait
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>>71822615
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>>71824026
the process of learning quantum physics is intuitive, research is not. You're given a series of concepts to apply to known parameters produced by the results of past research and calculations. In Law you are told to read a lot of case reports, remember them then try and see how anything in them applies to whatever question is thrown at you in the space of seconds. You also have to stand in front of experienced people and say all this (face it no STEM student is anything but a sperglord who'd piss himself in a court hearing). Even in medicine you are given repetitive procedures and checks for diagnosis and treatment.
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>>71824451
Idk mine was pretty hard.
But I did complete it in 5 semesters.
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>>71824151
>it's da jews and Internet's fault I'm a fucking loser who hates his job!
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>>71819222
>Seriously, I can fake a english degree with enouigh weed

I see you plan to seek an English degree at the same shit-tier community college you currently take math classes at when you can venture forth from your parents' basement.
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>>71824514
>the process of learning quantum physics is intuitive

Stopped reading there. Go masturbate over how you know a hundred of Faggotson v Cuntbach precedents and how cool,suave and well-spoken you are.
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>>71824298
Forgot to add.

Here, even some BA fields have BS course just because they can. And romanians have an unconditional love towards math. Or at least the old fags who are in charge.

You're studying surgery? Cool, here, have some math, you may never know when you might need it.
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>>71818805

Those paragraphs are fucking poorly written.
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>>71818805
Later than you, but the arguments "it`s harder, so it`s better and it`s harder because you cant cheat" is ridiculous.
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The special "way you have to make yourself think" in order to REALLY "get" English or Philosophy can honestly be just as difficult as Math or Physics. The difference is that it's 10 times easier to bullshit in the humanities. You only have to KIND OF "get it" in order to generate enough material for an essay; if you only "kind of" get your Theorems and Propositions in STEM you're getting a fucking 60% on the test.
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>>71822128
>basic thermo
You're not really in a position to be smug, senpai
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>>71824616
coming from a Russian education I'm surprised you could read much at all never mind hold an opinion on quantum physics. Thanks for enlightening me I'll try not to underestimate Russians in the future.
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>>71822431

Do you even know what adderall is?
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>>71821085

In the few CRW classes I took, it seemed almost all of the class were autists who really believe they are going to be the next JK Rowling or George Martin, and then like 2 or 3 of us who just enjoyed writing and we're looking to get better through productive workshops.


It was bad
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>>71818805

a good portion of STEM majors are not a good choice unless you plan on going post-graduate

Becoming a doctor is a great choice though, as long you find the right type of it that doesn't have too many hours of work per week and is something that you think is interesting.
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>>71823712
>Is American education seriously this bad?
The best result of their niggers was during raegan and it was 20% of functional literacy.
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>>71824595
Thanks for the potato pepe friend
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>>71818805
21
Finished College and thought nah fuck that shit mate

25 now still no jobs
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>>71819222
>I can fake an English degree with enough weed
But it won't make you a better writer

tfw professional writer
tfw made bank cleaning up after stemfags
tfw retired at 28
mfw people still run on the engineering hamster wheel
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>>71822431
It makes you focus and study like a motherfucker unlike any other.

Like steroids, it's mentally addictive. It litterally makes you better at whatever you're doing.

Dangerous when the devil has 24k Rings for sale cheap. Even more when they're magic rings that aren't even corrupt inherently just mildly degenerate (it does abuse your system to do binges, but it can be done "mild'y reponsiblyt"
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>>71822466

I went to music college for two semesters (laugh it up) but dropped for that exact reason. I was surrounded by over privileged PC twats who could barely do anything musical. All your favorite musicians, authors, writers, etc never went to school because the only faggots who actually get degrees in an art are the delusional ones who aren't actually good at it.
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I actually grew into it at 25.

>started to learn to program one day out of boredom and interest in vidya
>started learning more about functions/code/mathematics
>all that shit back from high school basics

God i wish i paid attention in high school, hell i remember laughing about soh cah toa and thinking i'd never need to use it for anything (and now i use it for 2d movement).
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EE fag here, I can confirm it is extremely easy, no doubt getting your degree in gender studies or african american studies is much much harder. I can not imagine even attempting to get a degree in Islam studies, must be very very hard! Some of my friends at uni have to write 100 word essays every semester, jesus christ how horrifying. If you want an ez degree go for engineers, it's a cakewalk!!!! We just started soldering cpus last week in my embedded systems class.
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>tfw BS in Poli Sci
>tfw getting Masters in Public Administration crurrently
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>>71818805
T is not a meme, only S, E and M are
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>>71823026
Hard part is to make it work after studying a couple of wishful laws.
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>>71818805
>talking about how STEMs can't write a sentence
>sentence is missing punctuation

well done
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>>71819222
>Seriously, I can fake a english degree with enouigh weed. Can you fake a math degree with adderal?
This is a really good point. I'm a mathematician, and what I find hilarious about this is that non-credentialed people write hit, or even critically acclaimed, novels all the time.

NO ONE does ANYTHING interesting in mathematics without a masters, and increasingly a PhD. People try, and we call these people "cranks". Usually they're doing stupid shit like constructing proofs for squaring the circle.

I think the humanities have value in society. But how fucking dare any spoiled little child of the humanities compare their plebshit "work" to mine.
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>>71823522
Don't know what approach and scope of Gibbs' equations you cover as an engineer.
I did it as a physicist.

>>71823505
We started nicely with the creation and annihilation operators and the many body theory. Then we moved through all the approaches.
Hartree's approach, Hartree-Fock approach, the Thomas-Fermi-Dirac-Wigner approach, the Hohanberg-Kohn-Sham theory, the Kohn-Sham's variational principle, finally into Local Density Approximations.
And only after all that we got around to the classical field theory, Hamiltonian classical field theory, and only then into quantum field theories and quantisations.
Leading into applications, from simple ones like energy quantisation of a vibrating monoatomic linear chain to the quantisation of EM waves in vacuum, or quantisation of electron waves in solids.

The biggest challenge with the QFT is how much shit you need to get through your head just as the basis for attempting to approach and understand the main thing. And all that in the limited span of the course in one or two school terms, that's what makes it fairly tough.
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>>71824939
thats cool man, anecdotal evidence. the facts remain however that a vast vast vast majority of english degrees are nothing like you.
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>>71822891
Lol, DBMS will replace lawyers in 10 years.
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>>71818805
Dont worry. By 22, you'll be begging for it again.
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>>71824939
I'm not even arguing that i'm a better writer, just taht i could be more successful as a writer egotisically then technically.

I mean lets look at all the masterful techniques Meyer used in her novel twilight to describe her MC with a first page text dump discription of the picture on the back of the book but 30 lb thinner, younger, and desirable

Lets not forget the FUCKING FANFICTION that became a bestseller right after
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she clearly has no experience with mathematical analisys
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>>71825161
Well sure. A vast majority of people don't want to work hard. Your success is dependent on your hustle, not your degree.
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>>71824948
>addictive
only if you don't have ADHD. I hate taking the fucking stuff and resent that I have difficulty focusing even while on it
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If you are smart, even as a White Goy, hard to go wrong with Law school and either corporate or intellectual property law.
You can even come out of a liberal arts school (preferably a good one) and still mak ein into a t-10. I did.
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>>71818805
Does 'grow out' mean 'failed out'?
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>>71818805
>Hun
It's "hon"
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>>71818805
Kek this bitch doesn't know most engineers take high level social science electives to GPA pad.

t. Engineer taking high level writing and poli sci courses
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>Wah Wah not enough women in STEM

Why didn't you join stem?

>Wah Wah I picked harder stuff, STEM is easy and poopy smells!
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Btw the Tab is a shitty student news website with articles almost exclusively written by first year journalism students in the uk
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Trigger warning.

How can BAs compete?
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>>71825784
Pretty much this. It's the journalism equivalent of posting with a canadian flag.
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>>71823712

Gibbs is covered in Thermo II. Are you even an engineer squatting nigger?
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>>71825207
>thinking it's that easy to be successful as a fiction writer
Why don't you move to LA and become an actor, you don't even need a degree.
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>>71823688
I was upset that doesn't work in Python.
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> im a bad student who would cheat in stem
>THEREFORE everybody in stem is cheating! Cant cheat in my womyns studies degree so its harder!!
Liberals
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>>71819076

Does Bachelor of Science still mean a shit in the US? The levels of knowledge required have dropped quite precipitously here over the last 2 decades for the first 2 years of technical universities.
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>>71822891
Law degrees are also not bachelor's degrees, so that's not really applicable.
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>>>71825864
Well,I don't even now what Thermo II is. Thermodynamics and Chemistry were part of the first year of my education. And in fact,yes,I am an engineer,specialty - heavy machinery development.
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>>71818805
tf is that bait

Anyways, since Econ isn't even STEM, I grew out when I was 17-18 and changed goals from Astrophysics to Economics.
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>>71818805
Aren't BA degrees today the equivalent of getting a high school diploma before "no child left behind passed"?

NCLB lowered the standards so much that even actual retards can walk away with a high school diploma. This has made the HS diploma absolutely worthless in seeking employment. Now you must pay tens of thousands of dollars for a BA from a university to have what everyone got for free before NCLB.

Before NCLB BA degrees were strictly for those who wanted to go into law or education.
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>>71822615
>Gibbs me dat free energy
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>>71824939
Sounds interesting. How did that happen?
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>>71825785
>mfw chemistry major

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Degree=Bachelor_of_Science_(BS_%2F_BSc),_Chemistry/Salary
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>>71818805
This triggers me so much. With BAs you can literally write anything you want as long as it is vaguely relavent.
>BSc can just google their answers
Good luck with that.
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>>71825152
Why dd you do things like HF methods before you even covered what a Hamiltonian is? That doesn't even make sense.

t. Doer of numerical HF methods and the like in undergrad. Then again I'm in chem, not physics so the approach may be different but still.
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These are the required readings for the last two classes I took in college. We only used four chapters of the Livy btw.

Lab manual + stem book: 1071 pages = 295 pages + 776 pages of full sized paper.

4 chapters of Livy + Tacitus + Augustus + Golden Ass: 718 pages = 133 pages + 121 pages + 192 pages + 272 pages of half-sheet paperback sized pages.

Cmon, is this broad really having to resort to alcoholism to overcome reading two-thirds the number and half the area of pages I gotta read?
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What is STEM?
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MS in electrical engineering focused in antenna theory


I will never be jobless, nor will I ever make less than 90k

Stay jelly, art fags
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>>71825785
>mfw Ultrasound Technician is 60K starting
>mfw medical imaging fields only take 10mo - 2y to complete
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>>71818805
I'm a chemistry major and I have never failed a single non stem class. The only time I've ever gotten below a 75 on any paper I've written is when I screwed up my sources in an attempt to save time. BAs are so ridiculously easy that I took chemistry as my major not only because I wanted a job, I took it because I wouldn't be mentally challenged otherwise.
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>>71825080
What you're saying isn't even applicable given that the article is discussing baccalaureate degrees. You just claimed that an advanced degree is necessary to do serious mathematical work. Absolutely top kek, your reading and writing skills are so weak that you contradict yourself while you try to portray STEM as somehow superior. Gee, maybe you think you could squeeze a rhetoric course into your schedule, professor? Might do you some good.
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>>71818805
I'm in a mathematics and computer science program and I think writing essays is a lot harder than tests. The thing is your average faggot in a STEM program thinks he's a fucking genius even though he really isn't. If you know the material, tests aren't even a problem, essays will always require time and effort regardless of how well you know your topic.
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Why can an algorithm generate BA papers?

http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/
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>>71821407
how fast can you swim?
does it help with jumping between lilypads?
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>>71818805
lel
question 1a

Now what about the other thousand questions for that day?

femishits and liberals confirmed for not even knowing what STEM involves.

What's this? There's a hook in my cheek...
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>>71826040

They teach chemistry, Thermo I, and Thermo II separately here. I don't know the depth of what you guys cover, but Thermo I is kind of like an over view of thermodynamics, where as thermo II is an indepth look into the theory and methods of thermodynamics. It's an elective for us.
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>>71826281
yeah but how much does the cancer cost?
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>>71826403
It's really not that bad to answer a prompt if you know the material.
Just structure your response before you start writing and you'll be fine.
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>>71826403

For a perfectionist an open ended problem is daunting, that doesn't raise the average IQ requirement to ace it though.
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>>71826403
>If you know the material, tests aren't even a problem
woaw senpai
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>>71826155
>picture it
>American Midwest
>1994
>love politics
>read Ben Stein
>learn about professional political hitmen
>"I want in"
>political science is a meme degree, so is English, you've got to get a degree in something practical
>major in English, college of education
>want to teach so I have summers free to be precinct delegate
>waiting for English teaching jobs to open up
>join technical writing company
>view paycheck
And that's when I decided not to be a teacher. I teach English to kids now, people who want to get out of their country. My current project is a 10/10 17yo Chilean girl who wants to study fashion in Italy. I've been her teacher since she was 16. I tried to get her into modeling, but she said the photographers "skeeve" her.
>mfw I taught her that word
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>>71818805
its funny that cachia is famous for her webbed feet photos and for being a whore
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>>71818805
Writing well is hard and even most BA fags can't do it Much less STEM fags.
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>>71826214
Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics majors.
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>>71826690
Very nice, my friend. I hope to get into technical writing too.
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>>71826690
That sounds bretty cool, anon
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>>71818996
>on a career path that will eventually land me a higher than median wage job in IT in 4-10 years of Military service
fuck off
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>>71826504
Oh,I see. Chem and Thermo are also separate subjects here,I just mentioned both cause Gibbs come as part of both courses here. Thermo is a part of overall course of Physics for us,a mandatory indepth course,since we are studying in the engineering field. We don't usually separate subjects in terms of overview/indepth,you either study something in full as part of your course,or you don't study it at all,with the exception being humanities like philosophy and sociology.
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>>71825006
enjoy only being employable as an unpaid intern for the Hillary Campaign!
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>tfw stem
>tfw love writing papers but never get to
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>>71819222
>a english degree
smoke more weed
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>>71826437
I'm a pretty good swimmer
Yes
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I couldn't do a BA. I talk a lot of shit, but nowhere near needed to pass a BA.
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>>71818805

That's funny, as a Bio undergrad (let alone Msc. student) I had to have knowledge of various scientific fields including but not limited to: molecular bio, anatomy, chemistry, ecololgy, toxicology, computer science, statistics (need for any experiment) and we also had to do public speaking and powerpoint presentations just like anyone else. Many assignments were also papers either review papers for experimental style (eg: abstract, intro, methods, results, discussion) we also had to know how to reference others' works and use only peer reviewed literature.

I experienced everything BAs did and but they got nothing of mine. Scientists literally have to be more well rounded people.
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Law master race checking in
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>>71825254
Who was arguing otherwise? Ths thread is about a shitty english major trying to say a degree in english is more difficult than a degree in engineerin.
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>>71827111
enjoy your cubicle
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>>71818805
>just because you can balance equations doesn't mean you can write a sentence, hun.
>hun
stopped reading there
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>>71824939
>yfw the most famous writers were also alcoholics
If you say so, friendo.
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>>71826208
No, no. We had Hamiltonians way earlier. Same as operators, eigenequations and eigenvalues, and variational principle and perturbation theory.
We simply covered HF before going into Hamiltonian classical field theory.
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>>71824939
>retired at 28
And until 40
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>>71822128
>Gib free energy

Sounds like BERNIE! campaign
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>>71826690
>And that's when I decided not to be a teacher. I teach English

what the fuck broheim? Is you're point don't be a teacher be a technical writer? I know there's money in that but can you keep your sanity?

Also, stop creeping on your student you god-damned degenerate
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>>71818996
>22
>$7,000/month gross income starting
>been in the workforce for 10 months
>got a 5% raise doing literally nothing
>no state tax
Damn, I should never have fallen for the computer meme
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>>71818805
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>>71818805
This is such bullshit. When I was a microbiology major in undergrad I had to take humanities courses with the humanities majors, while they got to take easy science courses specifically designed for students not majoring in any hard science. Besides I don't get the hostility these people have towards STEM, these fields provide a benefit for them every day, I'm not saying they have to love science but they should at least not hate it.
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English and arts are a breeze to me. Even if I weren't good at them, they're easy to fake. But I'm an engineering major and holy shit I hate it. There's money in it though. And it seems less selfish than being an artist. Idk
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What about BA Comp Sci vs BSc Comp Sci?
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>>71818805
BAs are not hard, they are just fucking boring.
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Originally studied anthropology as the learning about systematic social mechanisms that underpin human behavior and how that intersects with environment and history to form human cultures is interesting. Of course my classes were full of kids with dreads that did not do their readings and ignored discussion prompts to just rant about imperialism while the professor's eyes slowly rolled back into their heads.

Now I study geochemistry.
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>>71818875
Who are more employable than your ass who sits on pol all day kek.
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>>71827111
>>71828097

Still doesn't mean you aren't an autistic loser. Also your jobs will be outsourced to Pajeet anyway
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>>71828523
Just because you got your feelings hurt on pol doesn't mean you should lash out like a little baby girl lmao.
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>>71828523
I have compartmentalized top secret clearance with the US government.

My job isn't going anywhere.

As for the autist thing, sure.
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No they're not. Most of my friends who went to get BA's did fuck all and partied and drunk all day. At least they had fun. Engineer nerds were studying all day and their parties were also lame as fuck.

The best to do is to study either economics or similar i.e. management, finance. That way you get a good degree and can party as well, also you'll get respected for not being a nerd.
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>>71828523
lol u mad?
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>>71818805
What the fuck is wrong with Canadian posters? Things weren't like this a year ago.
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>Stem meme
A math degree can basically get you a job anywhere
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>>71826690
Does technical writing pay well there? I work in technical translation and I ostensibly get paid better than all the technical writers at my company, but I still get paid shit so they must really be in bad shape
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>>71824007
LIIIIIIQUUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIID
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>>71828612
>finance

I'm a finance major, you're fucking clueless. If you aren't working and pimping internships while you're getting degree you aren't going anywhere after you graduate. You also better be strong at math and not from a shit hole like Hungary kek.
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>>71828742
this

chef at Wendy's
$300.000 a year
Math PHd
work with 20 18 yo east asian slave girls I can fuck whenever I want
my boss just handed my the key to his Ferraris, said I deserved it.

life's good
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>>71822891
>mfw a fellow nurse coworker says nursing is too hard so shes getting a law degree
kek
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>>71828808
Most guys who I know and actually graduated in finance now work in London or New York.

One of my uni friends work at Goldman Sachs in NY. Despite being from a shit hole like Hungary, kek.

Your "internship" meme has some truth to it, but you might just be ugly, uncharismatic angry loser. But what do I now.
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>>71818805
BA DEGREES LITERALLY HAVE FEWER COURSE REQUIREMENTS THAN BSC DEGREES

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>hun
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>>71828742
>>71818805
Also
>The tab
>English degree
I know a dude with a english degree who works at gamestop
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>>71828363
Funny thing is that if you try to get a visa to work as a software developer in a lulsy meme country like J****, you might get denied by immigration if you have a Bachelor of Arts in computer science because they say that a job in a technical field needs a bachelor of science degree.
I knew a guy who had it happen to him, he and the company appealed the decision though and he got the visa in the end
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>>71828589

looks like you're the one with hurt feelings LMAO
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>>71828416
cultural anthropology is a joke
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>>71828808

Unless you are from one of the half dozen top universities in the US the shit hole Hungarian probably had a better math education.

Hell, even at the top those universities have to get their affirmative action niggers graduated ... so maybe not even them.
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>>71818805
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>>71829076
Companies can do whatever they want. They can just call your job "consultancy" or "management" if they need to. Countries with VISA restrictions like that including the US cannot really do shit about it.

A multinational company can just hire you in Luxembourg then you're allowed to work in the US legally with some tricks.

I bet the same is true for Japan.
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>>71829006
I guarantee I'm better looking than you and I probably know your little butt buddy friend since I interned at GS and JPMORGAN. You have no idea what you're talking about and it's hilarious watching you Bullshit on pol.
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>>71818805
god damn this is some quality bait but ill bite.

Then BA fags should go cure disease/fight the viral contaminations/develop technology/raise the quality of life on earth and so on. I dont think BA fags could do any of these stuff , those who study BA never learn the scientific thinking method , we all went to college or in college right now , I have seen BA lessons/lectures they are nothing compared to STEM. I know lots of STEM fags think themselves special but to think BA is harder than BS is stupidity
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>>71829545
you sound mad

>interned at Jew Company
>still on /pol/

that's why you're a failure buddy boy
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>>71818805
I literally wrote my gf's 3rd year BA essay in one night and got a strong pass without having ever studied the subject.

It's just libcucks projecting their insecurities.
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>>71818805

What a surprise, the author is a womyn.
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>>71828416
I get you, I would be interested in studying that as well, but you might as well get a normal job and use the money from it to buy books etc. on anthropology
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>>71828505
You sound upset, engineering?
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>>71829702
Greentext the story for us please.
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>>71829500
Multinational companies have a special category of visa here too that lets them do whatever they want, called "Intra-company transferee"
It's more restrictive for the individual visa holder though
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>>71819222
The great straw other, huh?

Too many posts like what you describe. There should be a general /pol/ with all the: /pol/ will defend this, /pol/ btfo!!!, redpill me..., /pol/ on suicide watch, IT"S CURRENT YEAR /pol.

You get the idea, we need a general for this BS.
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>>71818805
>math is easy
>we can't just copy answers, that's why we use sparknotes
>MATH IS EASY
Holy fuck, this whore
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>>71819222

Anyone that answers yes to faking a math degree is full of shit.

Mathematics is a language in itself.

I could literally jump in to any history course at my university and get an A+ if I went balls to the wall. There are NO preReqs for any of the history courses I've seen. It's not accumulative knowledge.

There is no argument.

3/10 for making me respond.
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>>71818805
Liberal Arts are a meme outside of languages/linguistics. My eldest daughter studied a combination of Japanese/Chinese for her degree and she cried bitter tears despite being very talented at learning languages AND enjoying it.
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>>71826775
luckily its not that important a skill
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>>71818805
This cant be real
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>>71826581
Nothing, MRI and Ultrasound don't use ionizing radiation and cancer treatment is free anyway (and doesn't have waitlists).
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>>71818805
Reading that article gave me a hearty chuckle. Then I realised this is not supposed to be satire.
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>>71818996
They told me to go into physics.

Studying information systems I've met my fair share of physics students. I can't believe I was that obnoxious .___.'
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>>71818996
>I watched that MDE video once
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>>71829702
A BA is worthless in the current economy though.

Only economics, math, IT, medical, law and engineering degrees pay off well. Might've forgot some, but these degrees actually teach you something tacit. With a BA you don't get tacit knowledge, someone could have no degree and do the same as you, that's why a BA is worthless.
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>>71825898
a += 1 should work tough
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>>71821481
It is a talent.
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>>71818805
Triggered

Fuck these people, they have it so goddamn easy. Mastering the sciences takes almost a lifetime of struggle and hard work. Answering a math problem, even with a calculator is hard when you apply it to a real life situation you're trying to solve. This can ONLY be done after years of schooling.
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>they fell for the "I'm anything more than pure human trash" meme

why do you even bother?
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>>71825982
Still puts you ahead in the Netherlands to 90% off the population, a Bsc.
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You should always invest in your education through higher learning whether that is post secondary school, library, internet, and books
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>>71818805
>>71818875
It's absolutely not true.

I have a BA in History and a BS in computer science. The BS was 1000 times more difficult.

Have your (you).
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>>71833107
Yeah, this legitimately triggers me. I double majored, have a BS and BA, pretty damn obvious which is more difficult. "Doesn't mean you can write a sentence, hun" what the fuck is this cunt on about, writing is easy.
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>>71818805
my gf is studying anthropology(and its all bullshit, i know) where im doing a math phd. she has no idea of what im studying, even though i explain every time, slowly. sometimes it feels like im studying alien knowledge bc nobody in my group of friends understands me. sigh.

if i can understand what they are studying but nobody understands what i study, which is harder? not like it matters but... dont be delusional.
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>>71833450
No, you shouldn't through library, internet and books. This is because you won't get a degree for it. The degree is valued a lot in current times and an university will give you a more structured program that will help your education, if you were on your own you would cut corners easily and lose motivation which is why university will always be a thing.

A degree in itself is a primary motivation for a lot of people to get up and devote time to their study. The same goes with grades, if there were no grading off assignments people wouldn't put a lot of effort into them and the result is that people won't learn. For people to work they need a motivation and what you suggest gives people no motivation.
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>>71829893
Not much to say really. We were still at uni at the time, deadline season. I gave her a hand with her last art history dissertation, something about rich mudshits in dubai opening art museums and doing deals with franchises like guggenheim, etc.

Got graded something like 67%, which is a low B if I remember. Easy as shit course really.
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>>71833690
>Implying
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>>71832314
She's working at a vet now anyway, so yes you're right. She knows she got conned by the university now with the whole "you can study and make a living of anything you like" charade. Oh well, we still have a decent income and live well. Life's life, you can recover if you put your heart in it.
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>>71818805
I know this is bait but I'm still pretty triggered.
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>>71819576
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>>71818805
Did Sociology and Aerospace Engineering. Sociology was glorified high school. AERO I had to actually do some work.
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>>71833685
What does a PHD student in math do? What kind of research there is in Math? I can understand chemistry/physics/etc. research because you can all be empirical and try things out in a model or whatever, but what does math research look like?
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>>71818805
i know this is bait, but at least dont pick an age where you probly found out youre too retarded to study even liberal arts
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>>71834774
Math research is broad but it usually involves special functions and series and modelling their behavior and seeing what you can apply them to. If you're lucky it will be easily applicable to a real world thing, otherwise you just have to wait for a theorist to need it in the future.
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>>71828757
It can, but you need to be willing to put the work into understanding what you're writing about. That can easily triple your salary. It's easy to teach a smart writer to be an engineer, but an engineer who can't document his own processes is useless.
>>71828085
Don't be jealous.
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>>71818996
mooooom he's shitposting agaiiiin
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>>71818805

The BSc is the one writing the code for the autocorrect on your word processor
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>>71818805
I'm getting a BA in molecular biology because my cuck college lumps organic chemistry and stem cell biology in with lesbian studies. how fucked am I?
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>>71819295
aren't you special
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>>71826137
extotermic reactions and sheeeeit
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In all honesty, I wouldn't want to be an English teacher.

Could you imagine having to read the banal bullshit of 30 nu-males, stupid cunts, and the likes, PER CLASS YOU TEACH, and grading it?

Meanwhile, mr biology teacher, mrs math teacher, mrs whatever science teacher, just regurgitates the same old shit out of the textbook and throws your shit through a scantron, or at worst compares it to an answer key.

Even though my female English professors were more or less propagandists for a paycheck, I still wouldn't want their fucking job. Yak.
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>>71835704
Pretty flag
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>>71818805
It's funny because I've seen some IT guys who are great at writing papers
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