Face it. Women dont need you. They go to school they get a job they become doctors and lawyers they sleep with Chad and have children with his superior genetics without even being married. Why should any decent woman settle with a cuck like you in 2k16?
>>71804964
but what about trans woman...
>>71804964
They do, actually.
Except their 'man' is the state.
"Chad" is a shade of gray issue, not black and white. So, for hot girls, they need super-chads, not so hot girls want sorta-chads.
>>71804964
Because Chad will be in jail and odds are I'll be making at least 50% more than him.
Albeit, 50% of 0 is still 0, you probably get my point.
>>71804964
because i'm not a bitchboi like you for starters.
>>71804964
The feeling is mutual.
>>71805030
The only thing they need is someone to manufacture the materials they'll use in their inevitable suicide.
>>71804964
Men are ATM machines and provide stability in the middle age which won't happen when the bitch has dried up STD infested beef curtains with nigger babies.
This is modern feminism, women who made bad life choices and fucked up, now want the good men to feel bad and responsible. They don't want an attractive man dating an attractive woman, that is the whole MUH SOGGY KNEE and sexism is about. They want to live a life of luxury without paying dues or providing any incentive for the male.
Fuck these bitches, I laugh when I see a single mom posting on dating apps.
>>71804964
Works both ways burger
Actually its the opposite, also women become practically useless after the age of 30 and become desperate
>>71805253
>dried up STD infested beef curtains with nigger babies.
never change pol
>>71805030
you like dicks
>>71805253
>men provide stability in middle age
I don't get it.
>>71804964
Every right and all the power women have attained in society has been granted to them by men. Why do men need women?
>>71805407
As in men are able to provide financial stability which is desirable when the woman progresses in life.
>>71805432
>Every right and all the power women have attained in society has been granted to them by men
That is actually a pretty good point since they seem to have forgotten this.
>>71805474
Read the OP. A woman without a man has many doors open to progress in her career and make 6 digit salary without issues.
>>71804964
Women can go ahead and fullfill,their hypergamous desires. Honestly Im not gay or anything but since ive become a porn dependant and lost my attraction to the average woman, Ive realised how boring and unbearable the woman are when Im not constantly looking to get laid. Honestly I dont know how the average man deals with women. They only offer sex, thats it. Id much rather hang around with my mates.
>>71805586
That's a stupid argument since we're talking about the vast majority of people.
If you are to refer to a specific group of highly educated women which happened to succeed in life that's another story.
But the regular Joe and Jane, will be better off together financially and this is based on pure numbers, not on modern feminism bullshit
>>71805586
There isn't that many capable women around. There's a reason why the majority of men work in the private sector and the women in the public.
>>71804964
>women dont need men
>they sleep with Chad and have children with his superior genetics without even being married
which one is it?
>>71804964
There is a major disconnect between men and women. Women absolutely dont need men anymore, yet men are literally starving. Women are so above this whole thing they simply dont give any fuck about the average man. If you complain about it, they will ostracize you. Men dont even have any say in the matter anymore. When it comes to sex, we live in a matriarchy where men have 0 rights.
Somebody out there has to have found some sort of solution.
>>71806018
>need
>want
Those 2 are different.
>>71805039
Fuck this is brilliant. Care to elaborate a bit though?
>>71804964
Nah, they still need our taxes
>>71806291
>>71806188
This is how the world has always been. Women are the selectors, they will always have sexual power over us. The only way to have more sexual power over a woman is to be sexier than her. Of course I mean sexier as a man, I'm not saying we should all be faggots.
>>71806414
Ok good this is similar to what I had in mind.
This whole thread is presumptuous and silly.
First of all I have yet to meet a sane woman who wants to raise a child on her own. So implying that finding a chad a having babies with him (regardless of her financial status) then raising said child on her own is just stupid and baseless.
Plus,if you actually think that a woman with higher education which is actually able to make that amount of money is stupid enough to go suck every dick in sight is also retarded.
A collage degree doesn't mean higher education by the way since it means nothing whatsoever other than the person being able to memorize test material.
>>71806421
>This is how the world has always been.
I remember we had these barbarians that treated women like objects and raped what they pleased, I'm sure they'd disagree with "women have advantage"
I am the chad that impregnates said women. I wouldn't want to get married anyways. Even if she was perfect, you can't eat filet mignon every night forever. We naturally need variety and monogamy is just a business contract for women. Aka indirect prostitution. I can't stand kids anyways. Same reason I don't have pets.
>>71806421
>This is how the world has always been. Women are the selectors, they will always have sexual power over us.
You're a cuck
How about this..next time you have a meatflab in your life and she wants sex... say you're not in the mood
if you ain't a total cuck, you'll start to see how YOU can dominate you woman the same way. through sex.
>>71806525
No society was okay with rape. They were okay with raping other societies' women, but not theirs.
Fine, I'll revise. This is how society has always been.
>>71806644
Indians are..
and that's not even a meme.
countless stories of women going to the police to report rape and police laughing it off
>>71804964
I just came in my worshipfully obedient wife, so I guess that makes me Chad? HA whatever.
>>71806188
>>71806421
You guys are retards, quit being so narrow-minded. Some women are normal people that fall in love with and devote themselves to one person in life. Most girls are insecure as fuck and you know it, so while there may be some bitches that think they deserve the best, many girls don't even think that guys find them attractive or that they'll be able to get a boy to like them.
>>71804964
real women need real men
t. Hasinullah
>>71806606
I am not saying that we cannot change the dynamic or that some men are not in control, I am saying that largely (probably 95% of relationships) the dynamic has been that way for as long as society has been a thing.
What you say goes right along with my second point about being sexy. If I am not as sexy as my girlfriend and I refuse sex she will just go and cheat on me. If I refuse sex and I am sexier than her then she will get depressed and try to please me more, etc.
>>71806188
It's called brutal violence. When you take it off the table, you lose all bargaining power.
>>71804964
Italian women are the best
>>71806188
this. just look at Austria and Germany and how these women act. prude and frigide. boring and rejecting. responding with disinterest, pessimism and apathy. we might as well kill ourselves at this point.
>>71805039
This.
Remove social programs then lets see how women change their tune.
>ugly full autist
>hot girls still flirt with me for some reason
Sucks that I'll never be able to talk to them.
>>71806752
Great, I'm not talking about "some women." I am talking about women in general.
>>71806812
Maybe if you'd be satisfied with a bitch that half hates you and wishes she could be doing some other degenerate thing in her life, destined to cause some strife down the line. If you're smart, you'll tell any woman you meet that you have standards and just tell them to fuck off if they don't meet them. If they do for some reason care about you, they'll learn to understand your perspective and if they don't why would you want them around anyways?
>>71806752
>many girls don't even think that guys find them attractive or that they'll be able to get a boy to like them.
and you'll buy their dumb shit because you live in fucking La-La-Land. they just want attention by evoking feelings of pity.
>>71806752
stop trying to reason with them...they think we live in sjw utopia, when the reality is far from that..at least on this side of the world.
>inb4 gypsy camwhores
The majority of women are normal.
You refer to a minority who is just very loud
>>71806786
genes are a bitch
desu i got lucky ..i could have easily not .. that being said i can't fully empathize with the feeling;
At most I can empathize with dating less attractive people and seeing if from that side.
But then again this is different from person to person. Some have morals, others don't.
I was having an argument with a friend a couple of months back and she was actually making a good argument about if a woman wants to cheat, she'll do it regardless. If she loves you, the thought of other men wouldn't even occur to them.
Maybe i'm an idealist, but I truly believe that not all women are degenerate whores, and you can still have a decent life with a lovely wife
heads up anon
>>71806981
What are you even talking about? Evoking feelings of pity how? I've never known a girl to admit her insecurities, and if she does you know that she's the type that thinks she'll inherently hear reassurance back. Regular, basic girls would be too embarrassed to bring up their flaws, especially in front of boys that they like.
>>71804964
Most women these days are tremendously miserable.
Many girls I talk to don't really know what they want to do with their lives or anything, and just go to school because they're supposed to, they balk at my suggestion of getting married and having children for the same reason, and then continue to sink deeper and deeper into their alcohol-fueled depression and alienating sex lives.
Very sad to watch.
>>71806981
What, you actually don't think women are insecure?
They all know, they're not Taylor Swift the same way you know that you're not David Beckham, m'kay?
Media standards work both ways, they just don't want to admit it
>>71807081
Yeah I think you can have a "normal" life with a woman. It's tough but you just have to be really verbal with her. Subtly give her values to live by, etc.
Love is a really weird thing. We've humanized it too much I think. Men were always the romantics because we wanted to make a reason why women should stick around (in the name of love, etc.). But really this concept is fake I think, and a lot of women would leave you for a better man regardless. I think the best thing to do is just stress teaching virtues.
>>71807299
They need a male figure to guide them or they devolve into degeneracy
>>71806886
>autist
>flirting
I think that you're just self diagnosed "autist".
>>71807378
Relationships will always be hard and challenging, but you know... the feeling is mutual on their side too. Because what's to say when they become old you won't fuck a 22 year old (if you could) ?
I get what you're saying about men always being the romantics.
The concept itself is flawed because love can't be described in words, as each individual love is different, because it's summed up in the experiences and feelings you share during your time together.
Yes, you need to be the best you can be in order to raise to her standards (if you want a good woman)
But so must she in your case.
The problem here, might be that you're seeing it as a one option.
Life is complicated and I for one know i'm stupid everytime i want assurances because at the end of the day i'm well aware that nobody can promise you forever. Things change, feelings change, people change, life goes on.
>>71806898
>>71807378
You just have such a stupid, flawed idea of love, women and relationships.
>>71804964
Except for the fact that women who are single in their 30's are way more likely to report depression and thinking about self harm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uAAP3PbkRI
>>71807662
Care to elaborate or do you not have an argument and just want to feel good about yourself?
>>71807798
But he's sorta' right because the vast majority of women are not degenerate whores. That's just /pol/ meme. Or maybe that's the US, idk - I've lived in Texas for a while and it wasn't a degenerate shithole like you guys make it look
>>71807640
Yeah you make a lot of sense.
Cheers.
>>71804964
and men don't need women
Point
>>71807961
I knew my PHD in psychology would one day pay off.
I work in IT...
At least on 4chinz it has a use lol
>>71807798
> Women have always been the selectors.
I guess that doesn't count the millions of women that have been placed in arranged marriages. Do you have anything to back up your claim?
> If I am not as sexy as my girlfriend and I refuse sex she will just go and cheat on me.
Maybe if that's the type of girl that you typically date, but this isn't right. Some girls would break up with you. Some girls would keep pestering you. Some girls would just get sad and do nothing. Some girls wouldn't really care and nothing would change.
You think love is fake and you seem to think that only men really care about it, but I know that's untrue. I can't prove it, but you can't prove anything that you said either. Maybe I'm just putting words in your mouth here. If you think that men are the only romantics, though, you're wrong.
Maybe you'll say "I'm just talking about women in general, not all women!" but I don't think you have anything to back up that women in general feel any of the things that you think they do.
>>71807925
It's funny, I moved to Texas from a shithole in Oregon when I was a teenager, and I was in awe at how nice and non-degenerate most of the kids were. That's where I met my spouse. Everyone was a wonderful influence.
To be frank with ya'll, I think that the education coming from home, is the most important in raising a child that defines the way that they'll turn out as adults.
The examples they have from home, the behavior they're allowed to display and so forth are the main causes of such behavior in adult life.
Let me give you a "/pol/" example.
Ivanka is not a degenerate whore because she had enough of an education not to become one.
See the point i'm trying to make?
>>71804964
Did a stupid nigger make this post or a Nu-male or a fem-nazi?
Woman don't need men?
Then the dumb fuck goes on to describe how she needs sexual gratification from a male and his sperm to reproduce.
Please stop telling people you are smart.
You are doing a disservice to the Universe!
>>71808152
>women are romantics!
keep going lefty nutcase
>>71808280
I loved the southern culture (That's actually the only part of the US i found to have an actual distinct and specific culture)
Nice christian values, nice neighbors...everything seemed really plastic to me (coming from depressing shitty eastern europe commieblock land which i still love more)
Women are shit.
>>71808152
(1/2)
In basically all species of animals, females are the selectors in sex. This is an evolutionary fact. People are a bit different though because we are smart and come up with arranged marriages (not saying they are a good thing) and things like that so as to change the circumstances. But in the overall picture, women are still the ones who are the selectors. This is why men tend to be strange and take risks, because in order for them to be selected by women they usually have to be out of the ordinary. Women, on the other hand, can be a normal person and not try much in any facet of life besides making themselves look good and can get any man they want. Any. Women just look good and they are done. Men have to look good, appear to be happy, have a good financial status, be strong, etc.
What I meant to say about not being attractive to a woman is that she will likely leave you. Be this by cheating on you, breaking up with you, etc. Men on the other hand, get denied sex all the time and suffer through it (for many reasons). I would argue that if a women wouldn't care that you denied her sex then she didn't want to have sex in the first place. That's the response you get when you deny someone something, they get mad. The ones who get sad would get sad because they are not as sexy as you. This is all I am saying. If you are sexier than your woman (in terms of everything, not just looks) then you will have the power in the relationship. If you are not sexier, she will have the power.
>>71804964
>Implying I need them.
>>71808152
(2/2)
I absolutely think that love is a fake concept fueled only by horniness and a desire to be less lonely. But I think if we are going to make an argument for whose love is more real, a man's or a woman's, the man's would take the cake. And I think this is because of the respective natures of why men love women and why women love men.
Both men and women have feelings of love for others for themselves. What I mean by this is that they love their partner because their partner gives them things, namely pleasures. But I believe that men love their partners for their partner's sake as well and women do not (at least as much). My reasoning for this is that men literally do not need women for anything but carrying a baby (and fulfilling the pleasures that I talked about that are part of their love that is for themselves). So since men do not need women for much, other than to fulfill their horniness and desire to be less lonely, they love women (almost irrationally) for the woman's sake. What I mean by this is that they love the qualities of the woman even though she doesn't give him much. For example, men love women for their looks and personality typically. They love the looks, they love the personality, even though neither bring them any utility. On he other hand, women love men because men get them things. Men protect them, give them money (typically), and do all sorts of other things for women. They have A LOT of utility for them. What this thread is about, though, is that women no longer need men because they now go to work to finance themselves and they have laws in their respective nations that make it illegal to harm women (these are good laws) so women no longer need protection. So this, I think, is changing the dynamic of love tremendously for both men and women.
>>71804964
This works untill you get 27+. That is when the shit is starting. Baby+work=no free time to spend on your beauty. No beauty=no Chads attention. But her heart still needs love and her pussy is aching for dick. Woman with brains at this point realise that she needs to seriously lower her standarts if she is not AAA tier anymore. So she attempts to catch beta males, soon realisisng that requies some damn effort, cause there is a lot of girls like her, males do not loose their quality when they hit 30. And here comes the boys turn to get picky.
>>71808280
You know the situation in Austin by any chance?
>>71807516
I truly can't believe /pol/ believes this. How fucking asinine.
>generalizing 3.5 billion humans.
>>71804964
>Women dont need you.
lol SOMEone has to pay the taxes and alimony for selfish, irresponsible thundercunts
>>71805331
Some of them have no kids (thank god).
>Don't need men
>Sleep with Chad
ok
>>71810247
Yep, that's where we lived. What, specifically, are you wondering about?
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=117636003
>26 year old
>>71804964
>chad
You mean Tyrone.
>>71804964
>women earn less on the dollar than men's and men need to fix this!!!
>women earn big salaries and don't need men!!!
When will you fucks realize that degrees in HR and labial folding that get you a shitty job virtue signaling at an NGO while you live in a one bedroom apartment with your low IQ, emotionally stunted illegitimate spawn of a tattooed retard in prison does not = progress.
>"I'm a strong independent womyn who don't need no man!"
>gets no man
>ends up old alone childless and owning 5 cats
Every time lmao
>>71811111
I've just heard that Austin isn't really "Texas" in that it's much different than the rest of Texas. Are the people in Austin just as "non-degenerate" as the rest of Texas?
>>71804964
>they sleep with Chad
I will become a Chad then.
>>71811424
Well, people say it's the liberal containment zone of the state. They've still got plenty of good, conservative people there but there are also plenty of degenerates- especially from California. According to my husband, things were much better during his childhood and it wasn't until the late 2000's that tons of people started moving in and ruining things. I would say that there are a LOT of people to be wary of there, but there is a population of people that hold the same values as the rest of the state. I haven't lived there since high school a few years ago but when I moved there I was really amazed. There's an entire group of people, mostly well-off native Texans, that don't sleep around a bunch or do drugs or do anything else ridiculous, on top of being really kind and polite to everyone. My parents loved how all of the kids have great manners.
>>71806188
islam is the solution :^)
>>71804964
Haha the women's 'man' is state support. If they didn't have that they would be breaking down my basement door and cleaning away all of my buzzing flies and spiders webs in gratitude.
>>71811665
That sounds like paradise. See ya later, New York.
>>71805253
I constantly see girls with half nigger or spic kids. One girl who I work with, her grandma brought in her niglet child and every dude there was in disgust and awe
>wanting to sleep with women who want to sleep with Chads in the first place
kek
>>71811758
Dear god it might be true.
Men don't need women.
>>71812136
Yes we do. Life has no meaning without women. Life for women has no meaning without kids for women. They don't need us to make babies. Fucking face it already.
>>71812244
>Life has no meaning without women
What a bitch
>>71805039
Exactly. This is the problem, men use to be head of the household and the boss of women. Then the State in the West emasculated and humiliated men to the point where women instinctively realised who was the new boss. The State is like the angry, violent, yet generous and protective ex boyfriend that she can run back to at anytime and be believed and forgiven and then have him beat up their current partner. This process is continuing full steam ahead with the new 'Domestic Violence' campaign. Just the State reminding women that they don't have to put up with their men, they can take care of them.
>>71812244
>Life has no meaning without women
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>71812628
>Life has no meaning with women
>>71812520
>Life has no meaning without women.
What s this internal conflict?!?
>>71804964
>posting this to a site made by a man
>with a machine made by a man
>in a house made by a man
>in a country ruled by a man
>in a world ruled by men
>>71804964
If you really want to win the war against women you just need to become twice as attractive as they are. They can do anything they want because people bend over backwards to please them and become awestruck and willing to do anything at the sheer sight of them.
Men must take it back so the roles become reversed and thus restoring balance to the universe.
>>71812628
One needs to be a great spiritual master. Most of us are not born with such an inclination. I did not realize how truly weak I was until I read The Ladder, very scary to read.
And the fact is, that in our perfect state, humans are a man and a woman who love eachother and is blessed by God.
>>71804964
If they sleep with Chad to have kids with his superior genetics, that's still women needing men
Women bore me. If I didn't find them sexually attractive I could quite happily live without ever seeing them again. In either case, I do not want to hear them again.
>>71813242
What is the book you are referring to?
>>71805432
False
Women gained power as a consequence of entering the workforce
>>71813594
The Ladder of Divine Ascent.
The Philokalia is in the same vein (both key texts of hesychasm) but I don't recommend them to just anyone. Very scary and powerful stuff.
>>71813739
What do you mean by scary and powerful? I read a lot of philosophy, including philosophy or religion. Is this anything like philosophy of religion?
>>71804964
>his superior genetics
O rly?
>>71814027
No, this has nothing to do with philosophy, in fact one would condemn misusing ones Godgiven ability to reason (νόος, the intellect) for profane purposes.
It will expose you to yourself as the weak, disgusting and cowardly soul that you are, it is so revelatory that it is scary. I believe it requires tremendous spiritual fortitude to read.
>>71814210
Any other advice for me before I read it?
>>71814317
Don't really, unless you plan to read it solely with academic detachment, in which case I don't believe there is a point anyway. It is nothing like catholic philosophy or writings by bishops like Augustine or Athanasius.
I jumped into the deep end of the pool before learning to swim.
>>71804964
>they become doctors and lawyers
Name one woman of either profession that's better than ANY man in the same profession.
>>71804964
Every device, contraption, enclosure, and organization that allows modern living is created and maintained by men. They wouldn't last 20 years without men.
>>71814479
Well how do you suggest learning to swim? Do you recommend that I read other treatises before? I am sorry but I am just having a hard time understanding how a work of another person could be this mind blowing so as to make you advise me not to read it.
>>71811457
this
>>71804964
even if some don't need men directly, they need them indirectly for their tax contributions fueling ever-exanding women's gibsmedats
still, take all of what you read here about women with a grain of salt, there are truths about them and there are untruths, the largest of which is that all women are manipulative whores who care only about themselves when in reality the vast majority of them is not at all like that, but those women aren't talked about, are they?
it all comes down to your ability to tame the individual woman in front of you, helps a bunch if you are able to consider them as children and if you are willing to walk away at any time
>>71814778
I really don't think one can understand it unless one is indeed one of these ascetic, spiritual masters. This was never intended for normies like us.
If you really insist, I suggest reading a lot of Origen, Pseudo-Dionysus, Maximus the Confessor, John Chrystotom, the desert fathers and Antony the Great,
then some basic intros to orthodox ascetic thinking, such as Seraphim of Sarov, then with the aid of preferably a hieromonk, but a priest is also fine, you can study it.
>>71814735
I think OP's point is that because of the system set up by men, they no longer need men. Obviously if this system were to collapse, OP's claim would no longer be true.
>>71804964
>women dont need men because they can now thrive in the modern society, built by men.
>>71815138
>untruth
>women are manipulative whores
Pick one, Serbia.
>>71812136
This.
Man has three friends. Dogs, alcohol, and automobiles.
>>71804964
You go for it girl. You don't need to make some man's life a misery. You can be happily miserable on your own.
>>71806525
>these barbarians that treated women like objects and raped what they pleased
>>71804964
>Face it. Women dont need you
and I do not need women.
>>71805039
>Except their 'man' is the state.
This.
>>71815864
I can't deny I haven't met those, they weeded themselves out quickly but only because I have a zero-tolerance for bullshit
>>71815365
I apologize for asking so many questions but I feel the need to ask what it is about the text that makes it so only monks can understand it. This concept makes sense and is clear in other contexts such as the natural sciences, where only someone trained in physics would understand a book on quantum mechanics, but I do not as easily see how only someone monastically trained would be able to understand the Ladder. I am sure there is a reason, if you could help me understand that reason I'd be grateful.
right in the feels
>>71804964
Who "needs" anyone in 2k16?
>>71804964
>women dont need men
And men soon won't need women.
>>71806291
Simple, really. Women rely on welfare to have their Chadspawn. Without state assistance, they'd either starve, or marry a beta provider. Because women are really rubbish at life in general.
So yeah, the State is the Man substitute to those fucking whores. Anarchy now, let the beast starve.
>>71804964
Oh the horrors of not having a leech attached to my assets and bank accounts. Going to work and my paycheck is going to, at minimum, have around 30% removed. The state fucks me quite enough already. Eurocucks need not speak up, you're not even men any longer.
