Well, /pol/?
Think about it. Can you refute it without resorting to "muh degeneracy" or "muh economy"?
>>71774517
I have no problem with prostitution as a business but that doesn't mean I have to respect them as individuals.
Getting a cash payout from a hole in your body will never been a respectable career and to compare it with back breaking, life threatening work like coal mining is just fucking stupid.
>>71774517
Coal miners have a skill
Any whore can let her cunt get ravaged
>>71774517
>Your morals are bad because sex workers break their backs in life-threatening conditions
Nice b8. 8/8 made me reply
>>71774517
>Sex is manual labor.
kek
>>71774626
FPBP
Whore yourself out if you want. I don't care. Might even use your services. But don't expect me to respect you for it.
>>71774517
Coal miners are selling the skill of mining coal. Their economic value is based on the labor they perform. They are not selling their bodies any more than a lumberjack is selling his body when he cuts down a tree.
Sex workers sell their bodies. They're selling access to their body's holes and they're trading on the sexual appeal of their appearance.
can't tell if supposed to be anti-"human trafficking panic" as in "sex workers are not uniquely oppressed among laborers, stop thinking of them as victims, they're strong independent women", or just generically pro sex workers as in "it shouldn't be stigmatized as it's the same as any other labor"
It's a case of division among the left whether to consider sex workers victims or to feel that considering them victims is in itself oppressive.
Either case I'm sure it's a leftist. but the writer is definitely un-PC as his analysis sounds like "brocialist" labor-focused Marxist analysis, not considering the unique challenges and oppression women face. He is bringing strong women down to the level of male laborers who are actually far more privileged than any woman. But he thinks he's PC.
>>71774517
Actually my view of labor is determined by my moralistic view of sexuality.
Slight, but important distinction.
>Sprankle
Not so fast, Eric.
>>71774517
They are making it more acceptable because after the robots replace these low skilled women in fast food and retail, they're gonna have to make money somehow.
Last summer there were broads turning tricks near my local gas station for $30 in food stamps.
>refute it
Dumb men make money with their back.
Dumb women make it on their back.
As long as we can all agree that both groups are on the low side of the bell curve, I see no problem with this.
Last summer there were broads turning tricks near my local gas station for $30 in food stamps.
#empowered
Prostitution requires no practical skills, spreads disease, and is one of many factors destroying the nuclear family.
Being a whore is fucking easy mode. Even slightly attractive women can make a mint just by lying down and taking a few cocks.
So yeah, nobody's going to respect that shit when they can make in 30 minutes what a lot of people make in a day.
Just like thinking chopping up lumber with an axe is okay but not chopping up humans means you're clouded by a moralistic view of 'murder.'
>>71774517
women should be allowed to be prostitutes, and men should be allowed to hire prostitutes. however, it should be shameful for a woman to be a prostitute, and a man shouldn't be expected to marry a former one. it also shouldn't be shameful for a man to use one
>>71774626
How is the first post always the best?
>>71774517
If you think rape is so bad, your view of crime is clouded by your moralistic view of sexuality.
This is probably the 5th thread I've seen with a pic of that tweet.
>>71775380
>implying I don't chop up humans
>>71775400
Why shouldn't it be shameful for a man to hire a sex worker?
>>71774517
What an idiot. The customer is paying for time with the body. Does the coal customer pay for time with the coal miners body?
>>71775553
male chastity doesn't matter, and if he wants to hire a prostitute he should be able to
>>71774517
i agree. prostitution and other forms of sexwork should be entirely legal.
>>71775076
Top answer, maple bro
>missing the point this hard
he's saying that hookers aren't special, unique, or warranting of any special treatment, dumbasses.
>>71775556
>Does the coal customer pay for time with the coal miners body?
Indirectly, yes.
The coal miner doesn't wish the coal out of the ground using only his mind.
I think he means coal burners.
>>71775494
I honestly don't think rape is as bad as we've been told it is. I mean, yeah, it's bad, but no worse then getting the shit beat out of you. To hear feminists tell it someone thrusting their dick inside you when you're not into it is a fate worse than death.
If you rape a prostitute, will you be charged for rape, shoplifting, theft or all three?
>>71775263
Robots will replace them in prostitution too, give it time
>>71774517
> deciding what people decide to do with their own bodies
ishiggydiggydoo
>>71774626
Can't be put better.
the coal miners job is to obtain coal
the sex workers job is to let others fuck their bodies
these fucking semantics man
>>71775684
He's a faggot commie promoting prostitution, you fucking leaf
FYI, a coal miner is a white guy who hooks up with black girls.
>>71775781
>To hear feminists tell it someone thrusting their dick inside you when you're not into it is a fate worse than death.
Feminists need women to always be winning the victim contest, and since more men are murdered than women, rape has to be worse than murder.
More men are raped, too, but you never hear about that because feminists cook their stats and used fucked up definitions of "rape."
>>71775956
No they're called "Master living the dream".
>>71775750
So it's a pointless comparison.
>>71775857
There will not doubt be some hipster that will pay a premium for an "organic" roastie.
Pleasure leads to bad moral character. Pain leads to good moral character.
>>71774517
May I remind you guys that these feminists are Marxists. So they probably object to coal-mining for wages as well.
>>71775781
Rape trauma can certainly explain a lot of mental disturbances. Especially when they rape occurs early in childhood. From my experience a massive amount of people in mental hospitals have a history of sexual abuse. It has nothing to do with feminism you fuck. The mind is fragile.
>>71775950
Fuck, for real?
He is right, but for all the wrong reasons.
Goddamn broken clocks, those commies.
>don't sexualize us
>pay us to sexualize us
>>71774517
>the left is now advocating for prostitution
>>71774626
>having a crescent on your flag
>>71774517
>your view is clouded by morals
no shit. is that supposed to be new to me?
>>71774626
Having sex with lots of different men is rather life-threatening. You expose yourself all sorts of diseases. Women's bodies were made for making babies, men's bodies were made for heavy labor. I don't think one needs to be exonerated and the other deprecated.
>>71775263
Ah one of the classics... where does the time go?
>>71774517
prostitution should be legal, but the competitive gaming head of the united states is worried that this would nerf the underground black community
>>71775684
That's how I understood it as well.
>>71776129
femenism predates marxism, and nothing in any of marxs works maligns coal
stop just making shit up in your head and declaring it to be true because it makes you feel good
>>71776372
That's some seriously flawed logic.
>>71776298
>your view is clouded by morals
it's not even that though, it's a false analogy since the coal miners aren't neccesarily paid for "selling" their bodies - but for obtaining coal.
>>71774517
This argument implies that all forms of selling the services your body can provide are equally moral.
>>71776372
>Having sex with lots of different men is rather life-threatening.
Did you really just say this unironically?...
Are you really so dull as to think getting dick shoved in you is as dangerous as a mountain falling on you?
>You expose yourself all sorts of diseases.
Maybe if you're a complete fucking idiot. I would like to think the women taking miles of dick would be smart enough to know what's going in them but, hey, they're women.
>Women's bodies were made for making babies, men's bodies were made for heavy labor.
Wow you really think fucking is the same as heavy manual labor.
Are you a woman or just a retard?
>>71774517
Coal miners don't sell their bodies, though. They sell their ability to mine fucking coal.
>>71776372
Many men died mining coal
>>71776132
That's in a case of a long history of childhood trauma and the same thing would happen if your parents constantly beat you bloody.
Again, I'm not defending it, and someone being violently raped may well be traumatized, just as someone being violently assaulted might. I just don't think people keep that in perspective when trying to deal with it.
>>71776743
Coal miners get paid to extract coal using their bodies.
Whores get paid to extract cum using theirs.
>>71774732
if you belive that, you should have sex with more women.
>>71775400
>it also shouldn't be shameful for a man to use one
I disagree with this.
A man who patronizes prostitutes is profligate who cannot master his animal urges. He has money to waste on whores but not to set aside to raise a family?
Disgusting.
>>71776839
exactly, if they could obtain coal without using their bodies then there would be no problem with that.
a sex worker on the other hand sell their body by definition.
>>71774517
One sells their body for sexual pleasure
the other sells their body for practical productivity
the fact that hes even trying to create some logical fallacy when the comparison is so off target is embarassing
>>71776790
You do know condoms don't protect you 100% from STDs? It's more like 85% depending on the manufacturer.
I can't foresee sexworkers using condoms 100% of the time. Do you really think they use it during blow jobs?
Why should a guy pay whatever amount of money to get his dick sucked with a condom on? That's so lame.
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>>71776928
refer to
>>71777018
ur just arguing semantics here
>>71776928
No, they're paid for sex. Nobody's saving that jizz.
>>71777050
why is it off target?
both is sale of body and time.
>>71774517
I don't think sex workers sell their bodies, they both just sell their time, no?
>>71774517
*hit rock with axe*
*get pregnant*
Whoops
>>71776790
>Are you really so dull as to think getting dick shoved in you is as dangerous as a mountain falling on you?
In short term perhaps not but certainly in the long term. A prostitute is a woman who will inevitably sacrifice the fertile years of life for money that she will more often than not waste on frivolity. She will inevitably be cast out when her looks fade, diseased with no useful skills and no family to care for her and more often than not wind up a suicide.
Never forget that the wages of sin is death.
>>71774517
What's wrong with having morals?
>>71777094
So a 15% chance of MAYBE getting an STD is totally equivalent to one of the most dangerous jobs on earth, right?
God you're a fucking idiot.
>>71777111
checked
>>71777466
Some STDs kill anon.
>>71777466
Your a fucking idiot. I'm not comparing coal mining to sex that's retarded.
I'm merely stating that condoms do not protect from STDs 100% so therefore there is a level of danger in sex work.
Miners sell their labor, whores don't have to do anything but lay on a bed.
>>71774517
I like how they say moralistic view of sexuality, implying that thinking the other way is not morally driven.
>If you don't think sex workers use their body for profit then you have moral views of sex!
Oh wow no kidding.
>>71777714
What STD is a guaranteed death sentence with modern medicine?
Even if you get HIV and let that progress to AIDS you'll STILL live for a long fucking time.
>>71777823
>Your a fucking idiot.
hahahahahahaha
>. I'm not comparing coal mining to sex that's retarded.
You're not?
> Women's bodies were made for making babies, men's bodies were made for heavy labor. I don't think one needs to be exonerated and the other deprecated.
You sure?
>I'm merely stating that condoms do not protect from STDs 100% so therefore there is a level of danger in sex work.
"A level of danger" doesn't mean shit.
Working at wendy's is more dangerous and more respectable than taking dick.
>>71777823
there's a danger from crossing the road every day and being hit by a driver, doesn't mean everyone should be praised for crossing a fucking road
>>71776928
We use robots now.
Ever heard of a longwall?
>>71774517
Coal mining and coal burning are two completely different things
Miners' labor unearths raw materials that can be used to produce goods and services.
Prostitutes' labor unearths spunk from a sweaty man and has no tangible value. What good or service do the prostitutes produce with their labor? Other than a man's pleasure so he can go back into the mine tomorrow.
>>71778399
Coal mines to day are extremely mechanized, hardly selling your body type work anymore.
>>71778399
>>71778131
>implying whores can afford HIV meds
>implying antibiotic resistant syphilis isn't becoming a thing
The fact that modern safety procedures and technology have made coal mining safer than it was in the 1920s doesn't suddenly mean that coal mining is a safe profession. The fact that modern medicine and the ready availability of condoms have made whoring safer than it was in the 1920s doesn't suddenly mean that whoring is a safe profession.
I get it, you don't like or respect whores.
I don't like or respect whores either, but I don't let that stop me from recognizing that it is a repulsive dead end of a profession. If I were a woman I would rather be a coal miner than become a whore, of course if I were a woman I'd also prefer to become a wife rather than a coal miner....
>>71775076
Well put
>>71775464
>What is confirmation bias
>>71775076
>>71778703
so both are selling their body and time.
marality are the only difference.
>>71775464
I have seen a few occasions where it's actually been the worst, but they seem to be outliers.
>>71776958
And you should do more coal mining.
>>71778860
Morality is a very important difference.
>>71778860
morality
>>71778684
>The fact that modern medicine and the ready availability of condoms have made whoring safer than it was in the 1920s doesn't suddenly mean that whoring is a safe profession.
No, actually, it fucking does mean that.
While we haven't found a way to keep people from being crushed by a falling mountain we have found a way to keep whore's vaginas from rotting them from the inside out.
>>71778896
probably never will, but i have done a lot of lumbering (if that is the verb)
Why can't I think both do? Does a coal miner somehow negate a prostitute selling her body? It's literally their business. No different than models, even. If they didn't keep those bodies in shape, they'd be out of a job.
>>71779052
>While we haven't found a way to keep people from being crushed by a falling mountain
Are you seriously claiming that no progress has been made in improving safety in the mining industry?
>we have found a way to keep whore's vaginas from rotting them from the inside out.
and that would be what exactly?
>>71778860
The difference is that it takes more than a second X chromosome to do the job
>>71774517
Yeah, nobody ruins their marriage because they just can't fucking stop hiring dudes to dig up coal in their back yard.
>>71779370
>coal mining
>some threats addressed, others are still very much a death sentence. Collapses and gas leaks still happen in spite of layers and layers of safety precautions
>whoring
>all threats addressed 50 years ago including STDs and pregnancy
>anybody who falls victim to either is a victim of their own stupidity
Any whore can stay 100% clean by getting checked regularly. It's really that simple.
>>71779454
then you should read more history. everybody can work a mine. children used to do it, but the damn liberals stoped it.
>>71775533
So how is the weather in Snowtown?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwEB4DY_jc
Mining engineer, most coal miners love there job and it is increasingly mechanized and technical.
>>71779637
>all threats addressed 50 years ago
but that's wrong.
There's no cure for AIDS and as I said before
>implying whores can afford HIV meds.
>implying antibiotic syphilis isn't on the rise
Furthermore we've only been focused on STDs and haven't even touched upon the dangers posed by random nigger violence, serial killers and other such psychopathy.
>Any whore can stay 100% clean by getting checked regularly.
Yeah and I bet you think calling the cops can un-murder you too. Going to the doctor isn't going to magically uninfect you with hepatitis.
Look I get it, you have a hard on for coal miners.
That doesn't change the fact that whoring is still an inherently dangerous profession. Just because a profession is inherently dangerous doesn't mean you have to respect it.
This guy is an actual licensed psychologist.
>>71780327
not in china, an not in fucking africa. a lot of prostitutes like their jobs to
>>71776790
Prostitution is more dangerous because of the customers, they're not usually creme de la creme.
>>71774626
kinda like a singer use a hole in his body to sing ... right ?
>>71780628
There not people who cares.
The left actually tends to hate prostitution.
The reality is that by keeping prostitution and sex work underground you are indirectly causing the rape and murder of women and little girls.
Is the same thing as DUDE WEED shit. Your tax dollars are being spent on housing and feeding millions of niggers and degenerates they get arrested for irrelevant bullshit.
>>71781082
there is a lot of people i dont care about.
point still stands, fucking is no more degrading.
>>71774517
>turns out society plunders human morality in both sexes
i turned 18 once too
>doing something that most people do for pleasure but you charge money for it
>being moderately good at fucking and how to pretend you're interested in someone is equivalent to long shifts of hard labor
There is no comparison.
Even with mcjobs or paper pushing, people still need to stick to a schedule and work relatively long shifts, keep track of different tasks and coworkers, etc.
Fucking for money is EASY. The discomfort, risk and social repercussions are all part of the price you pay for making decent bank from a piss-easy job, you stupid whores.
Comparing it to fucking coal mining is actually offensive and everyone should be outraged upon hearing it.
>b-b-but you have to know how to act and convince people you like them and it can be really uncomfortable!
Almost everyone has to do this as part of their work, you entitled, self-aggrandizing cunts. And being good at sex is something most people just work on in their spare time.
The men who visit prostitutes are not paying you because you're so amazing in bed. They're either paying because either they can't get access in normal circumstances or because they want to do it without a lot of preamble and female bullshit.
>>71777215
It's off target because being a miner and being a whore were never similar occupations to begin with and never will be.
A coal miner is somebody who is productive and does actual honest, hard, dangerous, backbreaking work. Prostitution is just constantly sleeping around with people you don't know and giving them sexual pleasure. The hardest thing you have to do is take off your clothes. Both don't nearly compare to each other.
>"BUT STDS R DANGUROUS!"
Ever heard of condoms? Ever heard of antibiotics? Ever heard of telling when a person you're are about to get in bed with is an obvious risk?
While coal mining isn't the most glorious job, it is certainly a more respectable job than letting random strangers jizz in your woman hole or anus for a living.
>>71774517
shut up whitey wicha white ass tweets
>>71774517
selling their bodies = strangers get to put their penis into their vaginas and ass, literally, it's selling their intimacy
It's not really difficult to see the difference with coal miners, unless he's talking about gigolos that work exclusively with black women
>>71780937
>because having sex is just as easy as being a good singer
>being an autist and taking the "one hole" term way too serious
stop being pedantic m8, we all know what he mean. sex is easy and just about anyone can do it.
>>71777215
No you faggot. One is selling bodily production and one is selling bodily access.
God damn you are fucking dumb.
>>71785427
Nice. I see you still visit Something Awful.
>>71785100
>unless he's talking about gigolos that work exclusively with black women
You mean all this time I could have paid for coalminer manpussy?
Why didn't anyone tell me they also turned tricks??
what do you mean clouded? Yes I have an idealistic view of sexuality in society, a reserved conservative one- that somehow makes it clouded compared to some degenerate freedom lover who wants everyone to do whatever the fuck they want?
>>71774517
So do models. Feminists should be outlawing modeling.
>>71783791
productivity is what you put in to the economy. work has nothing to fo with how hard it is, bankers make more than hairdressers.
A banker willl make more money than a carpenter, only the carpenter will produce.
point still stand
