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How do you discern intellectuals from "intellectuals"?
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How do you discern intellectuals from "intellectuals"?
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>>71762351
Whether or not they know maths.
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>>71762351
quotations
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>>71762351
whether or not they are Mexican
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>>71762351
Check Flags.
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Real intellectuals have massive doubts about everything and will gladly consider other viewpoints.
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Arrogance
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>>71762606
This. If I see absolute certainty in someone, I know immediately I'm dealing with a poser.
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Test
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Anyone who is able to realize that they are wrong and change there beliefs when confronted with conflicting opinions scores major intellectual points in my book.
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>>71762351
Whether they post on twitter
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>>71763076
i wonder what this genuine zimbabwe citizen was testing
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>>71763076
RARE PROXY
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>>71762351
I just assume that everyone is full of shit
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>>71763140
Funny how that rarely happens, If anything most people merely double down on their biases when they encounter opposition
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>>71763076
BAZINGA
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>>71762351
If I agree with them they are intellectuals. That's how I usually tell OP.
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>>71762428
explain
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>>71763218
Greetings my fellow Nigger
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>>71762351
By how well they can engage a viewpoint that differs from their own. I Forget who said it but you need to be able to understand why somebody thinks the way they do so that you can then point out the flaws in their logic, or find the flaws in your own if their ideas are better. Stats and figures are one side of it but to truly defeat an arguement you need to be able to break it into little pieces and crush every thought individually.
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>>71763076
Don't care if you're a proxy, you're going in my collection.
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You know, just..
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>>71763333
Brit bong only accepting his own views and asserting them onto other people in order to classifie them......typical
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>>71763407
Did you remember to buy your goat milk for 60 trillion Zimbabwe currency today friend?
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>>71762351
Real intellectuals don't refer to themselves as intellectuals, fake ones do.
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>>71763507
rare flag
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>>71762351
Depends if they believe in an afterlife
If they do
Then they are no intellectuals
*Tips*
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>>71762447
>underrated
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How come 4chan's been detecting most of my other proxies ?
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"intellectuals" have a tone like there's an after taste of cum in their mouth and they enjoy that taste. They tongue motions accompanied by head tilts and pauses
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>>71762606
This.
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>>71763694
How did you get Bosnia ? Give us your IP PLAS!!!
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>>71763694
Lol ok Ahmed
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>>71762351

"intellectuals" pretend to be serious.

Intellectuals are drunk and disrespectful.
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>>71763368
If you don't know maths you don't know how to describe anything in a concrete manner. "Intellectuals" end up just arguing about definitions.
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Intellectuals : scientists
"intellectuals" : social scientists.
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>>71762351
Everything necessary to figure that out should be illustrated in this graph.
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>>71763792
I;m drunk right now fellow mountain merchant friendo.
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>>71762351
If you don't have a graduate degree in physics or pure math then you will never be an intellectual

Physics and math are the only intellectually challenging subjects everything else doesn't require thinking hard
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>>71762428
This is actually pretty good
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>>71762351
Whether they're voting for Trump. It's actually just a simple litmus test.
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>>71763306
>rare flag
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>>71763946
guy who went into the wrong field and cant get a job right now detected
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>>71763862

Nice to meet a potential intellectual from the East.
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>>71762351

Pseudo-intellectuals like to use fancy words and inkhorn terms unnecessarily, have poor insight but act like they know everything and are not receptable to good arguments that conflict with their views, probably due to their rigid mindset. They also often seem to feel the need to make others look stupid and perphaps most importantly they pretty much always overestimate their own intellectual capacity. Oh yea, they also like namedropping, especially revealing their "pseudoness" when whoever they're quoting only has a peripheral relevance to the topic.
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>>71762606
/thread
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>>71762351
Real intellectuals are often too busy or exhausted to be obnoxiois and blurt out random crap at anone who disagrees with their opinions.

"Intellectuals" usually inform you that they are intellectuals in hostile or obnoxious ways.
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>>71764068
I've always wondered what its like in Switzerland. i;ve avoided going there for a while.Should I visit? Can I learn something from visiting ?
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>>71763792
Stahp it, Christopher Hitchens. You're suppose to be dead.
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>>71762351
A true intellectual is a sceptic that is willing to reconsider their views in light of new information.
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>>71762428
>maths

fucking brits
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>>71763076
Nice proxy faggot
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>>71763799
Define, maths.
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Official thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrIYT-MrVaI
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>>71762351
If they get pissed when you disagree with them.
An intellectual will understand that people can be misguided and that they themselves can be wrong as well.
An "intellectual" cannot imagine himself to be wrong, and will be almost vitriolic in trying to prove himself right.
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>>71764069
>To sum up:
people who rely on pop sci for knowledge
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>>71764385
math needs no definition you cunt. Its the base of everything. In fact math is the one truth we can rely on.
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>>71764385
math is defined by how rare the flag is
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>>71764034
Nope

Try again, cuck
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>>71764653
Dont even have niggers in my country so how can I be truly a cuck ?
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>>71763799
I've been learning math--seriously helps in every way.

Right/Left brain fags need to die.
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I got rare flags, let's see you fuckers do it.

I'm pretty much a genius
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>>71764767
You're a nation of dirty gypsies
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When I meet their family whether or not they introduce their children as my son, daughter or my wife's son, daughter
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>>71764805
Are you hungry?
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>>71764867
That's Romania, not Bulgaria you fool
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>>71764867
ok burgerland. Lets continue to trow insults at each other. surely this is the intellectual thing to do.
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>>71765025
Bulgars are dirty Indians as well

True cucks
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>>71762351
If they are unpopular, but also full of doubt.
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>>71765045
You brought it on yourself you Mongol x gypsie abomination

Behold the bulgar! God's mistake
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>>71764267

The main problem of Switzerland is the cost. It's super expensive so, most of the time, it's more interesting to visit an another european country for the price.

That being said and if we are not speaking of the nice places to ski in the Alps or cities like Lucerne you may be interested in watching a landsgemeinde.

We are a federal state composed of "cantons". In some of these cantons, in order to vote, you have to go to a certain place and vote by raising your hand in front of everybody. Of course, you have to provide an ID in order to vote...or you family's sword. You can identify yourself with your sword which is a nice tradition.
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>>71764805
How much can I afford with 1 million Zimbabwe dollars?
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>>71763677
Something in their HTTP header.
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>>71765171
expense is not a problem for me. I just dont think I can have a fun time in Switzerland.
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>>71764443

I don't think that necessarily constitutes a pseudo-intellectual. A pseudo-intellectual also feels the need to harass others with his "knowledge" and be viewed as an intellectual by them.

>>71763946

Mathfags, we can all agree that math is the foundation of science, but just because some guy chooses to be a philosopher or doctor doesn't mean he can't contemplate reality, things like personal interests and motivation aren't actually memes. The world would be a fucked up place if everyone were mathematicians and physicists.
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>>71765171
How about immigrating to Switzerland?
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>>71762428
Say mathematics, not maths. You sound like a moron saying it that way. I thought the originators of the English language would at least speak it properly.
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By their level of wisdom?
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>>71765580
Hmm... You're right. Relying on pop-sci doesn't necessarily constitute a pseudo-intellectual. What I meant was that a pseudo-intellectual (almost certainly) rely on pop-sci
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>>71763946

I have a Master's in pure math

You are wrong
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>>71762606
I wouldnt take it as an absolute. Anyone is certain of something in thier life even if its fake. A true intelectual is someone who is capable of accepting that what he was certain about is wrong after being argumented and change his opinion.
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http://lawyersusaonline.com/dcdicta/2010/01/12/scotus-justices-get-their-word-of-the-day/

Scalia's reaction to learning something new is the basis of intellectualism. You can find a sound clip or video of this case, and you'll hear that he sounds like a kid in a candy shop. Having that kind of excitement and curiosity when you're that goddamn old is rare.

An "intellectual" probably snorts, when they read that he and the other justices hadn't heard the term "orthogonal" before.
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>>71765922
I didn't say that such a degree will make you an intellectual merely that it is a prerequisite to being one
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>>71762428
How deep knowledge in maths would you consider someone should have before being considered an intellectual?
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>>71762351
Experience.
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>>71766087

Still wrong.
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>>71766075
Scalia also used to listen to talk radio for news.

>Scalia
>intellectual
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>>71763140
If you change your mind because you encounter other opinions, you're a tool. Not an intellectual.

If you change your mind as a result of a convincing rational argument, then you're on the right track.
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>>71766100
You must have published at least one paper on quasilinear elliptic cohomology of baxterized affine Hecke algebras in wrapped Fukaya categories on projective exceptional flag manifolds. Else you're a low IQ pleb.
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>>71766075
Lawyers and judges are by definition pseudointellectuas

Their worldview is based upon twisting rhetoric to fit preconceived beliefs
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>>71762606

There's no fucking way I'm an intellectual.
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>>71766161
Not an argument
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>>71763799

tfw math is meaningless without definitions.
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>>71766192
As opposed to, you know, watching wholesome, unbiased TV or visiting your friendly Huffpo/Breitbart site.

But again, an "intellectual" is ready and eager to dismiss the kind of titan that actually makes it onto the SCOTUS panel over something trivial and perfectly common. Guess I know what camp you're in.
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>>71762351
Their degree.
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>>71766285
Not at all. Their JOB is deriving new precedent from existing precedent and the word of law.
There's math to it, really.
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>>71766414

originalists and textualists do not need the news to do their jobs, only dictionaries from various time periods.
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An intellectual is the opposite of a woman. The less feminine a man is, the more intellectual he becomes.
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>>71766587
And that means they're not allowed to listen to the news at all?
This is the kind of stupid shit that happens, when you respond to a reply chain without actually reading the conversation taking place.
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>>71766285
>>71766322

But you must agree that your definition of intellectual is different from the classical one then? Are you implying that you can only contemplate reality through mathematical models?
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>>71766788

> mad at supporting information.
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>>71766579
>trying to change the definition of math

Lawfag detected

Kys low IQ pleb
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>>71765515

It all depends if you travel with someone (also who) and your tastes. Switerland is a country of lakes and mountains. If you like outdoors activities it's for you. If you prefer to party it might be interesting to go to carnival, in Valais (plus you can ski during the day). Regarding the architecture we have some nice traditional places like Gruyère but all in all it can't compete with France and Italy.

>>71765705

A lot of Portugueses are already here, they form a strong community. We don't have problem with them, they are very conservative and integrate pretty well. If you find a job here, considering the fact that you're a citizen from a member state of the EU, you wouldn't have any problem to establish yourself here.
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>>71767198
Oh, are we arguing about definitions now? That doesn't seem very mathematical of you.
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>>71762351
like this:

>american "intellectuals"
canadian intellectuals
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>>71766818
>Are you implying that you can only contemplate reality through mathematical models?

Not only will I imply that I will state it outright

Everything else is subjective and has to fit within the parameters of the base supposition or it falls apart
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>>71763306
yeah, sadly this is the most probable reaction you'll get in a decent debate
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>>71767307

if law is math, why do you have to explain the policy of your decision to appellate courts?
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>>71767198
>calls low iq on someone
>uses shit tier memes.
wew lad.
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>>71767307
I'm not the liberal arts cuck who twists the truth and engages in sophistry (you are)
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>>71767307
Without definitions you can't have math, fag
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>>71762351
The surest way is by their usage of words. "Intellectuals" will misuse big words in an attempt to sound smart.
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>>71766223
End this meme
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>>71767548
Fuck up, snownigger shitbag
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Intellectual: published in a book or study.

"Intellectual": published on the internet.
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>>71767323
>mexican intellectuals
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>Intellectuals
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>>71762430
underrated
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>>71762351
The ones that agree with me are true intellectuals, the other are just brainwashed tards
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>>71762428
worked pretty much for my whole time in school
this is approved
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>>71767719
>>71767754
>>71765705
>>71764805
>>71763973
>>71763819
>>71763694


> TFW the wall is almost here.
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>>71762351
Clarity.
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>>71767344

I do understand and agree with that from a scientific point of view. However, aren't you being a pseudo-intellectual now then, passing judgement derived from semantics and not a mathematical model? Surely you must agree that some things can't be explained this way.
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>>71767594
this. easiest way to find a pseudointellectual is to see what word he pulls from his lexicon and mistreats
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>>71767548
I was making a point.
>>71767344
Definitions are themselves arbitrary. So long as someone uses consistent logic that applies to what a given symbol is defined to mean, they can do math.
Kinda like how someone can use "there's a math to it," to express logical rigor. It's not the most common thing in the world, but the meaning behind the phrase is perfectly obvious.
>>71767465
I didn't say it "is" math, I said there's a math to it. There's a difference between what their job is and the system in which that job takes place.
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>>71763076
How's it going Mugabz?>?
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>>71767943
>Surely you must agree that some things can't be explained this way

No

Everything can be modeled mathematically and things that haven't yet been, will be in the future
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>>71762351
How much they listen to others speak.

Do they listen or just wait their turn to talk?
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>>71768282
You sound ill.
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>>71762351
Not by posting about on /pol/ that's for damn sure. I come here to decompress not to fucking think. Fuck off.
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>>71762351
As soon as you come to defining terms you'll be able to tell if you're speaking to someone who is intellectually honest or not. An intellectual will not shy away from defining terms when having a discussion while the "intellectuals" will avoid defining their terms at all costs since their opinions are shallow.
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>>71768172
Physical realities are NOT arbitrary, only a lawyer would try to argue such
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>>71766658
So a literal Autist?
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>>71765777
The funny part is that "maths" is a word.

>>71762351
Whether or not they're literally retarded. It's also useful to think about if their presentation is why you like them rather than what they're saying, even if what they're saying appeals to you, because often presentation can cover up lies.
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>>71768366
Liberal arts cuck detected
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>>71768474
The definition of the word "math" isn't a physical reality, dipshit.
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>>71763076
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>>71768506
>oh no, the goyims discovered intellectualism
>better call them "autists"
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>>71762351
Whether they call themselves an intellectual or not is the first sign they are not an intellectual.
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>>71768474
>>71768521
Did you fuck up your proxy or something?
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>>71768534
Stop trying to lawyer your way out of this, cuck

The universe exists, no matter what you say you cannot escape physical reality or talk it away because it is real
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>>71762351
[(problems solved) - (problems created)] / (total problems)
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>>71768596
No, I'm saying that the opposite of a woman is a high functioning autistic
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>>71768722

dunno, I got really drunk once and I didn't have to see anything physical for a little while.
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>>71762351
Can't remember where I read it but here it is.

>An intellectual person
Can memorize pi to 70 000 places

>An intelligent person
Understand that pi to only 40 places allows you to estimate the circumference of the universe to a precision of an hydrogen atom.
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>>71768684
Yes but that's beside the point
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>>71768722
You really are a dumbfuck.
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>>71768828
>>71768849
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>>71763507
dat flag tho
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I read somthing interesting on this topic.

Sometimes people or places are labelled 'Anti-intellectual'... But it's not always the case that they dislike or resent learned or intelligent people.

Sometimes people aren't even aware that they are actually *anti-semetic*...not anti-intellectual

People resent that these allegedly 'intellectual' people use warpy theories and esoteric jargon as status chips and use this intellectualism to denigrate and attack thier nation and culture.

The old educated elite were scholars, interested in learning for knowledge sake ...not intellectuals using theories to demoralize others.., or phony pretentious fake intellectuals who are using words and ideas to make themselves appear above thier fellow citizens.

You see this a lot with Jews/gays for whatever reason... A ostentatious desire to let everyone else know how 'smart' you are.

Its particularly pathetic when it's some middlebrow goy pretending, and blathering about big ideas that they don't really comprehend.
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>>71768282

To some extent that's true but the mathematical "composition" of an apple wouldn't tell your nervous system how it looks, tastes and smells. Mathematics, while being the most reliable we have, is still just an approximation/model of reality.
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>>71768849
>>71768898
Nice ad hominem

I'll take that as an admission of defeat on your part

No need to reply to me anymore, just go fuck around on /a/ or something
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>>71768767
Women are low functioning autists. The opposite of a woman implies having great emotional intelligence.
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>>71769183
>To some extent that's true but the mathematical "composition" of an apple wouldn't tell your nervous system how it looks, tastes and smells

With the singularity rapidly approaching it soon will
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>>71769256
I kinda like replying to you though. It's a morbid fascination.
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>>71769335

You can actually say the generic woman is the diametric opposite of an autist. Some evo guys even think autism is at the extreme end of the male brain spectrum.
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>>71769437

> this guys life.
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>>71769372
>With the singularity rapidly approaching...
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>>71762351
"intellectuals" make sure somebody else knows it.

intellectuals just take advantage of the attributes
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>>71769372

If that happens, which is hypothetical, none of this discussion will matter anyways, as we won't even communicate like this anymore and reality will be fundamentally different. But in the present, things are a bit different.
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>>71762351
Depends on your field.
Someone could be charismatic and not that smart and fool your for being a nice guy, very cultivated.
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>>71769672
Women are incapable of empathy or love. They are remorseless, irresponsible and solely guided by very primitive and undifferentiated emotions. The only thing that distinguishes a woman from a low functioning autist is the fact that autists can be benevolent occasionally.
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>>71762351

the "intellectuals" will identify themselves. the other kind won't
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When they use any of these terms:

Preconceived Notions
Socio-economic
Lived experience
scientific method
fallacy
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>>71770243

Women evolved to be socially manipulative because men would just bash their/eachothers faces in with superior strength. Males didn't need these same skills and autistic traits were more adaptive to males, like repetitive interests/patterns. Women are also most definitely capable of selfless love towards their children. They are more responsive to oxytocin after all.
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>>71770252
Ok I KNOW that's bullshit. I've known some exceptionally clever buggers, and some of them made damn sure you knew that they were smarter and better educated than you. Intellectuals can still be very competitive. It's practically a given, in physics.
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>>71770684
>repetitive interests/patterns
You mean something like buying new shoes every week, putting on layers after layers of makeup, and getting a new fuckdate from tinder or from the club every night?
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>>71762447
lel
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>>71762351
if they look the part they probably are not one

i'm sure real intellectuals are all too busy reading instead of wearing expensive tweed jackets and 60s glasses and hitting on hipster chicks at bars

look at zizke: doesnt matter if you agree with him or not, the man clearly doesn't give much of a shit about his appearance, he's one trash bag away from looking homeless
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>Has a PhD
>Talks in the said PhD subject and in that subject only
>Acknowledges his ignorance in all fields, including his.
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>>71768595
eat a dick
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>>71772306

> isn't a turk roach
> calls Constantinople by its proper name
> against Syrian rapfugees
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>>71770963
Bitter Kraut cucked by Mohammed detected.
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>>71772679
>attacks the argument and not the flag
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>>71772679
>>71773049
also, happy armenian genocide day glendale ;)
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>>71768595
eat a dick
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