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Should women be in the military?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIDJMRPMxJo
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No.
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aren't these images by that south korean roc marine that has a weird boner for female american marines?

dude likes the wookies
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meanwhile in brazilian police training
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z68Wo5jvh2E
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This picture is legitimately disturbing, some fat ass from Japan drew this shit.
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>>71741102
>>71741130
You do realize that, there are other jobs in the military than rifleman? There is barely any reason to bar females from trying to enter the military, they only need to be hold to the same standard as men.
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>>71741363
>disturbing
What are you? Gay?
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>>71741232

Yep. Still looking for a translation.
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>>71741102
No, honest to god no. How much does the bar get lowered for women in these jobs? Apperently women don't need to do pull-ups or 25 pushups becayse fuck upper body strength. Also they're too fucking emotional. Gender "Equality" was a fucking cyonide pill the west took to slowly kill itself.
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>>71741455

But isn't it inevitable that once women have their foot in the door standards will drop for MUH EQUALITY?
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>>71741102
Of course.
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>>71741102

No.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a262626.pdf
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>>71741102


God damn! MOAR!
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>>71741102
the guy who makes these should work more on the faces
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>>71741102

Yes, but only in their own regiments. Look at the Jews, they're smart and know how to run a military.
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>>71741824
>>71741824
he purposefully gives westerners huge noses because they look so odd to his foreign bug eyes
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>>71741102
No, and it suck that they lower their standards just for the woman, because muh equality, but if a woman can meet the same standards as men, then I would say yes.
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>>71742040
This webm is very misleading. Supposedly she just got done doing miles upon miles of trek and she was dead tired but all the dudes were telling her to man the fuck up and finish cause she was so close.
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Sure, when they start getting literally raped on the battlefield people will know it was a mistake.
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>>71742194
>falling on a hike
>ever

even pogs do 12 milers in their mct school
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>>71741543
Holy shit, I'm on duty and I need more of this
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>>71742194
Yes, but I kinda dislike the fact that just for the fact that she finished she's some kind of hero
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What do women bring to the benefit of the service that men do not already do?
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>>71742248
they'll kill the women soldiers then spread the pictures on social media. it is incredibly demoralizing on the home-front. people know men who are soldiers die on the battlefield, but when they see women dying out there it's like an entirely different ballgame
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Shit
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>>71742194
>literally everyone else did it just fine
>she's a hero because she fucking barely made it
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>>71742194

> This webm is misleading. She is just having trouble doing what all the other guys did

Get fucked, faggot.
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>>71741102

Yes but in the offices. Apart from self defense and practicing, no women should ever touch any weapons. Female cops and female infantery are heresy at is finest.
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>>71742491
Rape
n
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>>71742040

UNCOMMON
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>>71741102
PLEASE GIVE ME SOURCE OF YOUR IMAGE AND NAME OF THE ARTIST, THANK YOU.
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>>71741102
sure, but separated from the men
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>>71742556

Good, I hope they do. Stupid people supporting stupid things should get all the bad shit.
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>those noses
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>>71741102
No.I heard they receive easier training.Maybe someone can confirm this for me?Especially not the sluts in pic related.
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>>71741806
>>71742348
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>>71742819

The people pushing the "Women should be on the front lines" meme will blame the male soldiers for not protecting the women when ISIS inevitably releases videos of them raping and beheading female soldiers
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>>71741102
If they pass standards, yes.
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>>71741102
Only as nurses
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>>71742947

>they all want to be BLACKED
lmao

Even nips support it
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>>71742991
I don't know why the idea of this turns me on.
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>>71741102
Yes, but they shouldn't be in front lines.
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>>71742040
>cherry picking
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>>71743056

Because you are a neo-cuck

Unless you're talking about doing the raping instead of being witness to it
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>>71741102
No. I would never put my life in the hands of a woman.
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>>71742991
Not even talking that dogs can find the soldiers if a woman is in her period.
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>>71742878
Our women have incredibly relaxed physical fitness standards.

t. Squid
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>>71742766

The artist's name is 체리 가다 I think
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>>71742987
Dont hold out on me pal, my A Duty can be alone all day
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>>71743187
also, at the same age, a female's Excellent is a male's Satisfactory
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>>71743196
Jews BTFO!
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>>71741102
Yes but as the cock pleasurers of soldiers,they should have UTIS inserted into them so soldiers can gangbang them without causing pregnancy, everytime a soldier gets bored they rape the woman then go back to what they are doing.
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>>71742878
>italy.
>confirmed.
once a friend of mine who is oh the army told me why is mad at female soldiers. in officers lecures they are as mens but, in training girls are like a chinese warlord era conscript, totally useless. And the soution is :
>fuck anon
>crying
>fucking
>promoted
just as ewerywere
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>>71742991
Pretty much this, and men will die trying to save those female soldiers
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>>71742991
and the worst part is that the blame will be entirely untrue, male soldiers go out of their way to make sure a female in the unit is safe from harm, it's psychologically ingrained in men to protect women from being killed, and it will ruin unit effectiveness as the men throw their lives away over one soldier who isn't anymore important than the others other than being less capable soldier than the soldiers dying for her.
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>>71743196

I guess he supports Palestine
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>>71741102
So ugly.
Tell the artist to learn to drave faces
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>>71743247
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>>http://www.xvideos.com/video2461470/military_anal_sophia_castello_army
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>>71743350
Never really understood the point of hanging just fucking cut the head off.
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>>71743532
why is this so hot holy shit
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>>71741130
Sexist chauvinistic pig.
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>>71743441
>barfed up kimchi on your dick
Gas the gooks
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>>71743532
Doing Gods work Anon
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>>71741459
I agree. Next time I fap it'll be to army porn, not army cartoons however.
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>>71741645
That is a completely different problem.
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>>71741363
>some fat ass from Japan drew this shit.
I think the artist is Korean.It looks like bootleg anime.
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>>71743350

Mah dick
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>>71743532

Do women actually get army bras?
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I left just as they were allowing women to serve on submarines. It was only officers to begin but I imagine when the junior rates came in it would ruin the banter.

We used to talk all sorts of shit that would get you a swift dismissal from any other work environment.
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>>71742040
SHOW THE ASIAN DUDE STROLLING THROUGH RIGHT BEFORE HER
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Sure, but for god sake not in any combat roles
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>>71741280
>0:08
>that guy that literally running away is the best option
Did they raped her afterwards?
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>>71741102
No. Now if you want to have all-female squads with specific purposes tailored to their limitations, that's fine and dandy.

All female flying program?
It's been done. It worked alright.

All female snipers.
Again, moderate success.

I just don't see why you'd fill these positions with women until you were absolutely out of men.
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>>71743515
longer death...more scary than quick cut.
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>>71742194
that's the fucking point you idiot.

the army isn't there to cheerlead your retarded tryfail ass.
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>>71741102
>women
>military

Debating this on paper is fucking dumb. /k/ has gone though this many a time.

For those of you who don't know the distinction, the debate is *not* whether or not women should be allowed join the army, but whether or not they should be allowed to be OPs.

And even so, possibly the whole issue will subside not due to philosophical reasoning but because of technology advancements that will change the face of war so much (e.g. drones and sheit).

Same goes for veganism: the issue will be solved when we will develop meat farms that do not require an animal with a brain to produce meat (I'm thinking of cell cultures or some sci-fi shit).

So, if the question is
>can they join?
Answer is yes no problem.

If you ask:
>should they op?
Answers are:
>in a modern army that seeks to optimize everything (narrow definition), requirements shall not be lowered just for the sake of gender
HOWEVER if by "woman op" you mean: "citizen capable of sacrificing herself for the common good regardless of gender, age, etc. during an armed conflict and as part of a tactical team"...
...if this is your definition (a loose one), then YES, DEFINITELY YES. Women are effective cannon fodder, not unlike kids.

If you still have doubts, you can test it in practice. I'm not talking some lame war game. Just do like the Union and create a 54th Massachusetts of women only. You send them to fight in the harshest conditions and their slaughter will grant future women the entitlement to join the army and tactical teams as well.

If /pol/ cannot decide this on paper, let's have a bloodbath and see if at least the second definition of operative (the loose one) applies.
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>>71744154
implying the us military isnt the fattest biggest losers all welfare queen degenerate scum that would wind up either there in prison
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>>71741102
Personally me thinks they would be very useful as spies or small recon detachments, but open combat with gen pop riflemen? fuck no, thats a disaster waiting to happen, the men would flock to them if they got into trouble, which would compromise the integrity of the mission
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>>71743350
>>71744092
it doesnt work like this you fucks, you dont choke to death, your spine is severed due to your own mass.
also noone just pulls them up like that there are either trapdoors or a stool to kick from under their legs
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>>71743515
In a proper hanging, the person is dropped from a decent height with the rope around the neck. This breaks the neck and basically kills the person instantly.

The webm related is not how you do a proper hanging...
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>>71741102
>>71743532
this shouldn't give me a boner
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>>71741232
he draws some pretty unique stuff I'll give him that

http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=gogocherry
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>>71743828
It would be, if we hadn't been saying this for almost a hundred years, and every time it turned out to be the same problem presented 10 years before its time.

>Women need to vote!
okay, it's not like you want to run our workplaces
>Women need jobs and equal pay for those jobs!
well it's not like you're going to be put ahead of other, more qualified applicants
>Women need to be placed ahead of more qualified male applicants!
fine, at least you're not asking to be in the military
>WE NEED WOMEN IN THE MILITARY
alright, but this is the last one. Thank God none of you are qualified for combat.
>WE NEED TO LOWER COMBAT FITNESS REQUIREMENTS FOR WOMEN
>WE NEED A FEMALE PRESIDENT
>WE NEED FEMALE JUDGES
>WE NEED A FEMALE-RUN SOCIETY
>WE NEED FREE NIGGER DICK EVERY TUESDAY

It just doesn't end. You can use this argument with a man. A man will know when to fold. Women have no concept of this, largely because of this "your wife is always right" mentality the boomers had. They will forever push and say "it's not enough", until one day they will literally sit on a fucking throne and complain that it isn't quite as big as they wanted and it's the male slaves' fault for not making it bigger.
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>>71744269
>straw man
>(kinda strawman)
In your scenario you are assuming not only that women fiters fuck up, but also that man fighters are not well trained enough to accept the loss of a weak unit no matter their gender.

So basically you have just described an overall shitty army and claimed: "haha, in a shitty army of white knights, the presence of women will damage everything".

Thanks fuck. But this is not the point. The point is whether they are usable in an army where orders are followed. You have to demo strate they fuck up things in a *good* army.

The fact they willfuck things up in a bad army is given for granted.
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>>71741102
>Not wanting to see qt's in uniform

May I remind you that women in uniform is a patrician tier fetish?
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>>71741102

By all means yes, if they can do as well as men.

If they cannot, then no.

And when it comes to actually being a footsoldier I am inclined to be sceptiical. There are warrior women with big uteruses, but most girls do not have the killer instinct and the physical powers to operate in some shithole wearing 30kg of equipment while under fire and returning fire for hours or days at a time.

There's a reason why the mudslimes send their young men instead of women on dangerous boat tours
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How many of the world's wars would end peacefully if everyone just fucked the female soldiers instead of killing each other?
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>>71744100
Can somebody please delete her face from the internet?
I have never heard her voice, but:
>bad wrinkles
>bad grammar
>fucking awful haircut
>annoying eyes

Please stop posting this face. For me it's like nails scratching a blackboard.
[Triggered ]
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>>71742194
>everyone else has to do it
>let me just whiteknight here and say it's misleading
nah cunt she still wasn't good enough for the cut
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>>71744284
Yeah and the cable guy almost NEVER walks in and drops his drawers for his client who answered the door wrapped only in a towel! Where is the realism?
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>>71744580
>MUH STRONK WYMINS
No, it's not, it's a cuck tier fetish. Besides, there are no good looking women in the military and they all have absolutely terrible hygiene.
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>>71744580
>tattoos
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>>71743350

>Pulls her up instead of letting her drop from the clearly modeled trap door

I was expecting him to eat her out while she suffocated.
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>>71744483
You got a pussy in that thing?
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>>71744637
>dangerous boat tours
KEK
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>>71743187
>>71743254
I've seen pictures of really fat American soldiers. And they didn't seem like they worked in administration either.

How does that happen ?

I'm a fat but decently strong guy, thanks to rugby and boxing, and I'm not sure I would have the stamina to do 50 push ups, 90 curl ups, and run that distance in less than 14 minutes. I could probably do the swimming, but that's it. And the guys on the photos I've seen looked even less in shape than me. How did they do it ? Did they get fat after joining the army ?
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Nice fine asses
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>>71744564
No thats not what i said, i sadi IF THEY WERE TO FIND THEMSELVES IN TROUBLE, AS MOST SOLDIERS DO AT SOME POINT BECAUSE ITS FUCKING WAR, the men would be more likely to drop waht they're doing to help.

Its not sexist its a fucking fact, no one helps men in need but god forbid a woman breaks a nail, They would be perfect warriors in a segregated environment
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>>71743350
Goddamn that is hot

>mfw I will never be alive in the 1400's

>Why even live
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>>71744902
>1488 words
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>>71741455
There's no reason to lower the standards of efficiency just for equality and openness. Not everyone meets the standards of the military. They don't get in. Military isn't a public school where no child gets left behind.
The USA's military is getting shitted up thanks to letting women in. It's been proven time and time again every single year that do the study that women destroy unit cohesion when mixed in with males and under-perform by a massive amount when in a group of only women.
They are a burden.
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>>71744154
Yeah actually they do that for guys too.

It's a long course with a lot of weight on and she really had done well to get within sight of the finish line before she collapses. No one wants to see her make it that far and fail, and roughly the same scene does happen with guys as well.

And the load she's carrying here has to be the biggest problem. It's a very heavy load for a male a foot taller than her to carry, and I suspect a man her size would likely have been moved a less strenuous MOS before this test occurred.

I have no problem with a woman in any job she's competent at and wants to do, but I'm afraid in reality there are very very few females that will ever be confident at being front-line infantry.
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>>71741102
Im a RMC and no they shouldn't.
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>>71744879
>terribly hygiene
>implying I am not turned on by female bodily fluids

Didn't realize so many plebs were lurking on /pol/
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Yes, as long as it isn't done in a stupid way. Female soldiers shouldn't have arbitrarily lower physical requirements, if it is decided requirements don't need to be as high anymore then fine, but they should be exactly the same for both men and women. We should also consider copying China by having male/female only units instead of mixed ones. Though this might not be feasible outside of a conscription system.
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>>71743187
It's the same here in the UK, for officers and soldiers. The officer's fitness standards bother me a lot. I mean, we'll have to fight in the same places, undergo the same training, and have to lift the same bulked up soldier when he gets shot, so why do they get much lower fitness standards? It should be the same as men, really.

On another note, the smut in this thread is disturbing. pls don't encourage promiscuity and low morals in the army, there's plenty of civilian porn.
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>>71744984
No, actually I got exactly what you said.

You are assuming that good male soldiers will forget their orders just for the sake of a pussy.

In other words you are assuming the army is shit, and then draw the conclusion that shitty male soldiers in a shitty army will do shitty things when shitty females do something wrong.

Thanks fuck.

But prove me that white knights will ruin the operation in a 99% well trained army/unit or whatever.
I argue that if training is good enough, there will be no white knights at all and everyone will know their place.

Just because I disagree with the relevance of your ill-framed argu ent it doesn't mean I misunderstood you.
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>>71741102
>Should women be in the military?

Yes.
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>>71745345
I don't get it. Does she mean women soldiers are cheaper than having whores following the army like the old days?
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>>71745317
The US have numerous studies on this already, literally look for it and you'll find the answers you're looking for.

>I argue that if training is good enough, there will be no white knights at all and everyone will know their place.
No amount of training can undo millennia of conditioning. You'd know this if you weren't a walt and a civvy.
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>>71741102

No. Here's a tldr of reasons

>Women are physically inferior to men. They reduce the effectiveness of mixed-gender units and severely underperform in all female units.
>Women are inherently much more emotional than men. This makes them much more likely to break down from the massive stress of war and less likely to do what needs to be done.
>Women are sexually attractive to men. This will be a massive distraction to male soldiers on the front lines who need to be focused on their job, but might end up focusing on getting sex. This problem would be exacerbated by the hypergamous nature of women. Long story short, women will inevitably trade sex for goods and services with several male soldiers, as is in their nature.
>Women can get pregnant. After all their slutting around with male soldiers, many of them will get pregnant and be forced to go home, thus compromising the war effort since they can no longer fight.
>Women dying or being tortured would have an unimaginably bad effect on morale, both on the front and at home. Men are disposable, we all know this. We don't really flinch when we see men suffering or being brutally murdered in ISIS vids, however the same cannot be said for women. Men are literally genetically programmed to protect women at the risk of their own lives. In combat, this will result in male soldiers needlessly throwing away their lives to protect someone who isn't really valuable for the war effort. The worst part, however, is that our enemies will exploit this weakness the most. They will release videos of them brutally raping, torturing and murdering our captured female soldiers. Once those videos get out, it'll spark a reaction that would make the anti-Vietnam protests look like nothing
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>>71743196
Israeli women?Guess he wants a free Palestine.
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>>71744284
>>71744307

They are deliberately fucking it up because they like to watch the convicts suffer.
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>>71744902
>Travis realized then that he couldn't take any chances. There was no telling how much Punchy already knew. He had to die.
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>>71741102
Yes, why not. If women want to get headshot in some remote desert shthole, who are we to stop them?
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>>71744284
Watch the video again kayboard warrior, its clear.

And yes proper hanging works like you described.
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>>71745345
US carries have their own brothels

lots of degenerate shit already going on in the military, prostitution, officers doing coke etc etc

also in the case of the navy gayshit, lots and lots of gayshit
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>>71745514
So this is why the US is allowing women to op.

According to /k/, either the studies support that, or they don't. But in either case, women are increasingly taking operative roles in the US army.
Or muhreens. I don't remember.

So you're telling me: the Us studied it.
I reply: okay, good. It seems this worked because such studies led US army to open to even more women.

So women must be good,
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>>71743350
This is what we'll do to every Jew and nigger? I don't see what they're complaining about.
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>>71741645
>EQUALITY
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>>71743187
I havent been inside of a gym since highschool and sit on my ass all day and it would be trivial to get a satisfactory rating, jesus fucking christ
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>>71743354

Same text, square format.
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>>71745779
the military gets pressured to be more inclusive even if it means lowering standards because it's 2016
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>>71743354

2/3
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>>71745972
Only retarded 18 year old boots get married.

You're just limiting yourself all the pussy you can get by getting married in the military
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>>71742194

That's also not the full version, in the whole on you can see multiple men crossing the finish line strolling by like they were just out for a walk
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>>71746091
Are you claiming the military disregards their own studies?
Must be a really good military then.
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>>71743354
3/3
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Office jobs, auxillary positions, anything not requiring physical labor... yes.

Combat roles, absolutely not.
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>>71746091
>the military gets pressured to be more inclusive

Not only the military.
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>>71741102
Yes, but only if they meet the same standards as men.
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>>71745933
>21 pushups
>50 sit ups
>1,5 miles in 13 minutes

pff I could do that in my current state and I have done shit for more then a year now..
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>>71745779
Studies has shown that integrated combat units perform substandard to all male units. They only reason more jobs are being opened is because of political pressure. It isn't because women make a unit perform better.
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>>71741363
>disturbing
Hello newfriend
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>>71746294
it is a good military, but we shouldn't be making it shittier just because we can
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>>71745583
That's the cannon fodder argument.
And I agree if this is your definition of operative soldier.

However, some argue that in a scientifically managed army women can have many roles but not that of field fighter.

Read here for detailed options:
>>71744173
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>>71745762
Joining the Navy in a few months, are the stereotypes true about the gay banging? Can you just find guys nailing eachother on the brow of the ship?
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>OP's image gets deleted
>all this BBC shit stays
Top cuck Mr. Janitor
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>>71746309
>The average 20-30 year old woman has the same aerobic capacity as a 50 year old man.
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>>71746476
Anyway, back above I suggested three different questions, each with a separate answer.
>women i the military?
Generally speaking, not a problem.
>women fulfilling their citizen duty as cannon fodder?
Not a problem again. See third world armies for reference (kurds, or Niggers using kids, etc.)
>women acting as ops in a well managed army with high standards?
Hardly. Maybe possible, but I think in most cases it will fuck things up.

Anyway, I still argue that there is a stronger argument than science, when it comes to military matters: spilled blood.

Niggers were deemed unfit for service in the 1800s, but they conquered their right to serve by spilling blood on the field.
Get some 1,000 women killed for the glory of the US and you will see people will start calling them heroes.
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It has been proven time and time again that coed military groups are a disaster. The women get preferential treatment, and end up breaking down the cohesion of the unit. If women had their own units it wouldn't be a big deal. You could then even argue that they wouldn't have to meet the same standards because they are their own unit, and so long as they all meet the requirements of the women's unit, it's all good.
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>>71746783
Then why do kids fit in Africa? I've seen no problem with a 13 y.o. holding a kalashnikov.
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>>71746903
Israeli Jews have separate units.
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>>71746972
Well they seem to be doing alright. Can't be that bad then.
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>>71745058
>>71744517
>this is the average /pol/ poster now
Fucking read the whole fucking post before you reply. It's irrelevant if your military filling it's ranks with weak women because of muh equality. If a woman can pass the same tests as a man, then I see no reason to forbid them from entering.
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>>71742040
That's not misleading to anyone who isn't completely retarded. Obviously she didn't just walk 10feet.
Doing 15+mile ruck marches with 60lb pack +weight of your gear is a regular training activity in the military.
It's useful to be able to carry everything you will need to survive in the field.

>all those black hats
Is this airbone school? Or can any faggot wear one now?
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>>71746972
>>71746936
Fuck off Australia
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>>71746406
I am a fat fuck and even I can do these things easily
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>>71742194
see
>>71747177
It was obviously a struggle for me to hit 36/40
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>>71746903
>If women had their own units it wouldn't be a big deal.

well it would, because they would back stab them self all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slizipQpkI

relevant

>woman group broke down
>get shit done
>can't attended to basic needs
>have to be helped by the crew all the time

> You could then even argue that they wouldn't have to meet the same standards because they are their own unit, and so long as they all meet the requirements of the women's unit, it's all good.

no because that would compromise the performance of the whole army. If you suddenly have a unit, or multiple units that are a weak point, it will get exploited in worst case even leading to collapse of the whole army, or unnecessary high casualties.
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I am convinced that no one in charge of anything understands statistics.

No one has ever said it's impossible for a woman to be in active front-line duty. It's just highly, HIGHLY improbably.

Look at it this way: For a woman to be equal to men in front-line duty, she needs...

1: The Genetics. She needs to be born a big girl. 5'10" at the LEAST, with a solid frame. Yes this is taller than the average man, but it's to make up for the inherently weaker frame. This already cuts out HUGE swathes of the female population.

2: Of these rare 5'10+ girls, they need to have the physicality to be in the army. Meaning they need to have had an upbringing featuring lots of sports of physical labor.

3: Now from this pool of ultra rare Fit 5'10"+ girls, you need to find some that are actually interested in joining the military. This is possibly the biggest cut-off point. Not that many women want to join the military, and a number close to zero want to and CAN join the military.

4: Now that you have all that, they need to have the drive and personality to make it through training, and be able to work in the environment.

5: And even with all that, they now have special requirements for urination (I guess they can carry one of those silicon funnels around to be able to piss anywhere like a dude), pregnancy, risk of rape, menstruation...

So even if the military was 100% inclusive, you would still get maybe one woman per million man who'd fit all these criteria for front line duty.

And this isn't in any way sexist or misogynistic. It's just real statistics.
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>>71746867
>1,000 women killed for the glory of the US and you will see people will start calling them heroes

In my oppinion this will do the opposite because at the moment ISIS start to upload videos raping, torturing, killing and raping again the corpses of female soldiers everyone will scream that there is not room for females in the military.
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>>71746972
>>71747239
>>71747499
>>71747611

See here for a breakdown of the issues at hand: >>71746867
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>>71744012
>>71742040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6x2guhVu_w

first few seconds shows the guy just strolling through
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Fuck women who think they are equal to men.
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>>71747750
Okay. True i these circumstances. I agree with you.

I was just thinking about them "conquering" their right to be cannon fodder like anybody else.
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>>71744975
Most of them were wounded or sustained some sort of knee injury and are usually E-6(staff sergeant). They passed the physical fitness tests when they joined, and receive waivers for the activities that their injury won't let them do.
They also get waived for their body fat %.
The military was so hard up for people that they would keep these guys in and recycle them into non combat roles.
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>>71746406
That must be a joke.....even high tier wizzard can do it.
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>>71743515
>>71743350

It';s because that's not how hanging works in real life, That would just be super uncomfortable unless it's a really thin cord or they weight her down.

The fall break's your neck, that's why the stands have a trap door usually. It's a long enough rope that you fall 5-10 ft. You will be paralyzed and suffocate. The idea was to make it humane. Just hanging someone slowly without breaking their necks would take them forever to die. That's why people were mad about the KKK they didn't always break the neck and it was a really nasty way to go that cold take over a day.

People are just out of touch with execution techniques.
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>>71747499
If you knew that a particular unit was a women's unit, you would know that the standards are lower and can prepare with this in mind. The men's units would still function the same.
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>>71747947
If you put it in that way then I agree with you too.
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>>71747906
Anyway why do women want to join?
I thought feminism was against patriarchy and also against war, understood to be the result of male dominance.

That's another libtard contradiction, big as the fucking twin towers when they were still standing. It's something you couldn't miss.

It's like gay people campaigning against marriage because "muh freedom from ancestral oaths and christianity".

Now they are all about getting marriage.

I really don't get it.
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>>71748342
and still would lower the performance of the whole army.

weakest link and all that shit.
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