In today's world, it seems like long term relationships and marriage are a raw deal for men. Lets do a simple risk/reward analysis...
Entering a long term relationship/marriage as a male :
RISK : Being accused of rape and going to prison, losing everything.
Losing everything in a divorce, even if you are not actually married, through 'common law marriage', even your future earnings.
Being pestered endlessly for not providing enough.
Being forced to pay child support for a child that you do not want that may not even be yours, because DNA tests are illegal unless requested by the mother.
The above risks have been enhanced greatly through women's 'liberation'.
REWARD : Potentially an easy source of sex
Rewards that are no longer present because of women's 'liberation' : Might get good meals cooked for you.
Might get a clean house to come home to after a long work day.
Might get good sex often.
Might have a good mother for your children.
So, analyzing the risk/reward, we can see the the only reward is the possibility of easy sex, though it is not guaranteed. The risks? You risk everything.
>>71739932
Just don't marry an sjw or a whore. It's not impossible to do so. You just need to have a good judge of character.
>>71739932
I know thousands of you autists have given up all faith in women and love, but people are still falling in true, deep love every day. You're a fucking retard.
>>71739932
If you want to breed (and you're not a nigger who abandons) you need to keep in mind there's a cost. what? you think it's as easy as getting a girl pregnant and then go on with your life?
>>71739932
You get benefits from the government for being married. The problem is that more women these days don't understand the "Until Death Do Us Part" bit.
>>71739932
The longer I live, the more I see why arranged marriages are a thing.
It all comes down to finding the right woman, they exist but they are few and far between.
>>71739932
>tfw qt virgin gf
>won't kiss on the lips yet, but will grind my dick while I suck on her neck and earlobes.
>better intimacy than any other relationship even without the sex.
There's a few decent girls left out there anon, you just have to find them.
Will you bitter fucks stop telling me to not get married, we get it you hate women, not all of us aren't fucking burnouts.
>>71740084
fpbp
>>71740084
Where the hell are these unicorns you speak of?
>>71741063
You sound autistic as fuck.
>>71741063
Let me guess, she broke her hymen horseback riding?
>>71739932
My wife cooks and cleans. She gardens, makes bread and things from scratch, and watches my children. She makes me a cocktail when I get home. It's quite nice being married.
>>71739932
If someone want to marry, marry a woman with money, then the losses arent to big
>>71741063
>"Intimacy relationship"
>Not married
Sounds heretic to me
Being a degenerate faggot like myself has its benefits.
>>71741340
Yes, incredibly so.
>>71741509
No, she's a missionary girl who spent most her life is mesoamerican shitholes, knows first hand how shitty those people are, and wants a nice white man to raise a nice white family with.
>>71740084
That doesn't save you from retarded laws and feminazi lawyers.
Plus women are fickle, the angel you've married yesterday could very well be the cunt of tomorrow.
>>71741063
All this says is that you're both virgins
Nice try kike, we will continue to have BEAUTIFUL white children and there is nothing you can do about it :^)
>Met wonderful girl
>We have everything in common, she's head over heels for me. Sex is free and plentiful, she's a very generous lover.
>Do everything together, share the same philosophies.
>She's the one. Propose, she accepts. We start home shopping.
>Buy a nice 4 bedroom home with an in ground pool.
>Marriage happens a week later.
>Right after a wonderful, expensive, lavish honeymoon we return to our new home.
>She's demands I deposit my entire paycheck into her account from now on.
>Sex goes to maybe once a month, and she just lays there like a dead fish.
>Only cares about the next home improvement project
>Constantly verbally abusive, telling me I'm worthless and whatnot.
>Finally get fed up and want a divorce. She puts on the crocodile tears to the divorce judge.
>Luckily I only put up with this shit for six months, so the marriage is basically annulled, not on the hook for anything. I let her keep the house, because fuck that place that made me miserable.
Always keep them guessing. Always keep them wanting the big prize, but never give it to them. One they have it, they become raging bitches who think they own you. Fuck marriage. Never getting married again.
>>71742175
I kinda wish I was, just so I'd stop comparing her to other girls and wanting things to move faster.
>>71740084
The problem is when women age they start to "hide" their disgusting habits and its only when you commit to a longterm relationship/marry them when the TRUE them comes out
Even YOU have heard the multiple horror stories of
>oh my god! She was so nice and caring but the minute i pit a ring on her she became a TOTAL BITCH, she keeps threatening divorce!
Women are chameleons and your lack of awareness of this will be your own downfall
I was thinking about marrying this girl, we planned to do it in a few years from now, but suddenly few things happened thats made me hate her, now I want to break up and it scares me how I was getting married to this girl for the rest of my life, when I can't even stand a little bit of conflict.
Moral of the story: when the feelings end, the reality will hit you, do not make any decision in a hurry and think rationally, are you up for taking responsibility and sacrifice yourself for your wife and kids?
>>71741318
At church™
What is up with all these don't marry threads these days? It's fucking annoying, go spread your propaganda somewhere else, nikker.
>>71739932
>>71739932
>Be me.
>Be in long term relationship.
>Still get good meals cooked for me when gf hasn't worked that day (is a chef, last thing she wants to do after cooking for 10 hours is to come home and cook more)
>She cleans the house
>Good sex at least 4/7 days a week.
>Politically based woman who hates niggers and jews, likes to shoot
I'm honestly happy with the whole arrangement and plan on locking her down this year. Maybe try dating women who don't keep social media profiles or use tinder.
>>71741063
My girlfriend also doesn't let me fuck her. She allows me to masturbate to her if I've bought her something nice though.
>>71742976
Nikker, you're full on swede.
>>71742967
>try finding a girl who doesnt use social media
So go look for a girl from mongolia or the Appalachian mountains, got it
>>71743239
We're both from Upstate NY, it's not like she's a yokel or anything, just hates that human interaction has been shunted into the perversion of actual socialization that takes place these days
>>71743239
That's one of my problems. I pretty much demand that my next girlfriend has no social media stuff, or is very very very lowkey about it.
Impossible, nikker.
>>71743439
Again thats like finding a needle in a haystack
>>71741318
We're not unicorns. You can have one conversation with a SJW feminist and know that she's an SJW feminist. It's something they're proud of and not going to hide.
The benefit is getting to raise children whom you can make into good people and who will take care of you into your old age
>>71739932
>DNA tests are illegal unless requested by the mother.
Where the fuck did you read that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_paternity_testing#Legal_issues
>>71739932
>In today's world, it seems like long term relationships and marriage are a raw deal for men. Lets do a simple risk/reward analysis...
OP, what are the Assumptions, Economic & Corporate Trends, Trends in Control by all levels of US Govt and Foreign Government Bodies/Entities??
- US Govt, Treasury, Economic Stability Fund, Federal Reserve, all Bankers, all in the 1% "Plan on Inflation each year", have a purpose to inflate the costs of their own organizations by increasing their own Compensation at a minimum
- Govt Certifications, Fees, License Fees, Inspection Fees, Property Taxes, Property Assessments all Trend up/Increase
- Usury Fees trend up, Interest and Fees on Credit, Home Loans, Credit Cards
- US Money extracted from the local, state, or national economy is extracted offshore to Transnationals and in Balance of Trade Deficit (This is money that should be reinvesting or circulate in your economy and stimulate investment and lead to new jobs and higher wages)
What did I leave out? GDP is shrinking and over the last 10 years is lower than in the Great Depression.
Lawyers Fees are going up. Court Fees are going up. Civil Suits are longer and more costly and likely the wealthy party will win.
The US Bar Association is run by lawyers who run the judges in the courts... they keep the laws complicated and they enable long trials, long court suits, and maximum profits for lawyers.
Education, Health Care, Drug Prices, Housing, Legal Fees, Lobbying in Government, Foreign Lobbying, Foreign bodies like Transnationals... this is all proof of inflation and gaming in the old English Lord Style.
Welcome to the English Empire.
>>71745341
What can we do?
>>71739932
There is a deeper story about the Economy and how it is not as free.
>>71745341
Here I am aluding to a "Captured" country which has lost it's Constiutional Freedom/Liberty through many devices, a multipronged attack on US Labor, US Labor Rights, US Citizens, US Voters, and a take over of Journalism through programs of Federal propaganda which rely on a huge central govt and support a huge national military.
Only through study of history, business, finance, banking, lobbying, and propaganda can these issues be illuminated.
Today much of the economy depends on govt spending, financialization of all assets like mortgages and using derivatives to "offset" the loss of Factory Jobs/Manufacturing in the USA.
$1 Billion dollars in spending on a Presidential Campaign in the USA adds to the US GDP, but adds no values and actually dumbs people down.
>>71741318
Utah. Mormons are traditional as fuck. They believe in some wacky shit though.
>>71746035
Do you have some website or folder with all of your research?
i think I've seen you posting before, and I'd love to go through your analysis.
>>71745581
Enjoy the decline. There is no solution. Have you ever tried to tell people the problem here? Their minds short circuit and refuse to process the thought. They just call you a hateful bigot and then, ironically, hate you with the passion of a thousand suns.
>>71745581
Well, when I look at who is vocal in National Discussions...
When I look at the Squeaky Wheel in the Economy and Politics...
It is not the Chinese, Japanese, nor the Whites.
It is not those that understand conservative Budgets, Conservative World Reserve Currency Stewardship?
The death of all empires is in corruption from within. Therefore the education about corruption is vital. A free Press is vital. Break up of Anti-Trust Media is vital. A new age of enlightenment is vital.
Blogging is vital.
The False Meme that we should Laugh at Protestors and Activists must be killed.
The False Meme that National Boundaries, Limits on VISAs, Limits on Student VISA, Limits on Worker VISAs, that we need STEM VISAs at all, and that we should let in people from places without police records, biometrics, education records, church records, or reliable police forces IS ASININE.
The idea that Middle East people migrated to Europe and Integrated is Asinine.
The idea that Middle East people have the same values as Europeans or Americans is Asinine.
The idea that uneducated people should be allowed to enter Europe, Scandinavia, or USA/Canada is Asinine.
The Idea that Chelsea Clinton has guns protecting her, but you don't get like gun rights is Asinine.
- Write about Govt, Transnationals, Global Organizations "Changing the Rules for business, Property, Public Property, Nationalism, National Wealth, National Property, and National Rights"
>>71746257
Sorry I don't think I do.
I think reading Zerohedge.com with the comments is very valuable... but it takes my whole day when I do it. Commenters are very critical and this is very great instruction.
I've had some personal contacts that have helped guide me. My life and experience supports much of what I see in Zerohedge, but there is no quick way to eliminate the crap.
- Recently I tried to capture a list of Watchdogs, including government watchdogs like CBO, GAO, IG Offices, Auditing Offices, but I never got far
Someone posted this:
http://www.taxjustice.net/
https://www.citizen.org
www.ctj.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_consumer_organizations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_watchdog
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/census-immigrant-population-over-15-in-record-16-states-over-25-in-6/article/2586955
http://cis.org/Camarota/Map-Number-Immigrants-Minor-Children
Immigration by the Numbers -- Off the Charts
www.numbersusa.org
http://WWW.USAWatchdog.com
http://www.chapwoodindex.com/
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowstats.com
http://www.zerohedge.com
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/web/presidentialtaxreturns
http://www.Opensecrets.com
http://www.truthinaccounting.org/
http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/
http://www.globalslaveryindex.org/findings/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Slavery_Index
http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/rental-households-number-of-renters-homeownership-rate-middle-class/
http://www.activistpost.com/
Best evidence Videos:
The Veneer of Justice in a Kingdom of Crime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHgbRYgpGGs
>>71746405
>Have you ever tried to tell people the problem here? Their minds short circuit and refuse to process the thought.
That is often accurate. I have no logical answer. There maybe an answer through trust and discussion, through interrogative questions like..."Let me tell you what I an thinking fully & 100% and then if you want to hate me or short change me it is all on you!
- you can inject spiritual type techniques or probes or questions... I think also if you admit a weakness or show humility... sometimes this can shift the whole thing (I include metaphysical or philosophical type questions as philosophy here that can or will shift paradigm)
Get married to a healthy person who shares your values while you can. Unless you want to be a middle-aged suicide
>>71740084
>>71742025
Best Post.
>>71742643
Holy Shit Bro. My life Fear. I didn't think this was Canada too!!!
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Trend is Globalism, UK Style, where US Industry & Jobs are destroyed by the top 1% and the get what they want off shore and don't care that wives Rape our young men in Divorce.
- So destroy Jobs for profit offshore
- Corrupt politicians
- Destroy families with Law
>>71741209
>not all of us aren't fucking burnouts.
You forgot to add "yet" at the end of that sentence, anon
As someone who has been married just over a year, the biggest tips I can give anyone is not to rush into marriage, live with each other before you're married (no matter what anyone else says), Communicate EVERYTHING and if you're even remotely religious, try to find a girl who is.
>I lived with my wife 2 years before we got married. It was one of the best things we ever did. It's kind of like a test run before the actual thing, and it irons out any issues you have before you commit to marriage.
If there is anything you both can't solve in a year or two, its probably not going to last.
>Don't rush into it, really find out what is you guys like about each other. I've seen a lot of people get married after dating for a short amount of time because they are "absolutely in love with each other". Thier marriage usually crumbles shortley there after. I think the biggest reason this happens is because they aren't really in love with each other, they just LUST for each other. LUST =/= LOVE. sex will fade over time, it just happens. You bang each other non stop for years, things eventually slow down. Expect that and dont resent each other for it. try to finds new things to keep it interesting. Variety is truly the spice of life. Just don't expect to have sex everyday of the week.
>COMMUNICATE! this was a big one for me because I come from a family that is very reserved. this started to affect our relationship early on because i would get bothered by things and would ball them up internally and wouldn't tell her. eventually things would come to a head and I would explode and we'd get in these nasty fights and she woudn't know where they were coming from. my wife is quite the opposite, she tells me everything, and at first, i would find myself getting offended very often because i felt she was attacking me. after a couple years, I really started to open up more, and would tell her everything. it's not always roses, but problems get resolved fast and we....
>>71750466
>Never go to bed angry.
>marry a religious girl. I know many here might be atheist, but the best relationships i've ever had were to girls who were religious. there is a sense of community as well as a strong sense of commitment. something i think is lost in a lot of non religious couples. my wife an I attend church every sunday. when we first started dating, i was a former catholic who really never went to church. while i still question everything, i find that hour of meditation vital to not only my wife and my realtionship, but also for my well being. going to church gives me a sense of purpose and calm, and makes me feel like i am a part of something truly larger than myself.
while I won't proclaim to have a perfect marriage, but no such thing exist, i have learned so much over the years. we are constantly growing and learning together. we just bought our first house, and are planning on having children soon. i know I dont have all the answers and I know there will be tough times, as well a good times ahead. If one thing seems true, its that i know that we can learn and adapt. which is vital to succeed in anything in
this world.
>>71750957
if anyone wants to ask honest questions, I will give honest answers
>>71751104
OP is gone.
Are you OP?
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Traditional vs Poly-Amourous, Poly-Sexual
Hints, you like real woman that is open sexually and is not embarrassed about her naked body... but she may do about face when married with kids to make you the model and her be the model of traditional marriage.
Or could be open sexually girl friend would have affairs with other guys while married?
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How to train your husband, and your wife to be faithful, to take it serious as a commitment?
>>71739932
Love is real. And just because you were stupid enough to make this thread, you'll probably never find out about it.
>>71752102
Maybe I'll check back in a hour.
BTW... the magic woman provides new problems as you believe she has special trust or special spiritual beliefs that would keep the relationship together.
>>71751104
What are some redflags?
What are some "green" flags?
What religious denomination are you?
Also what age would you recommend getting married at?
>>71739932
Marriage is probably a loser, but long-term dating is great. Have sex every day, keep your finances separate, and get all the benefits of marriage / a girlfriend with none of the serious downsides.
>>71750957
I'm legit jelly.
>>71753022
>What are some redflags?
Some that come to my mind are a lack of empathy, selfishness and secrecy. I had a gf that would spend 20 minutes trying to get a perfect picture rather that trying to enjoy the moment. I would honestly ruin our dates. she also had no problem telling me how she was feeling, but never cared or didn't have time to listen to me about my thoughts or feelings and would get frustrated at me when I tried bringing them up. I've found that you can learn A LOT about how women are going to act by watching thier parents. They aren't exactly like them, but their traits do show up. secretive is also a big one. the one girl who never wanted me to hold her phone or was extra careful about signing off her facebook ended up cheating on me.
>What are some "green" flags?
EMPATHY was a big one for me. My wife is one of only a couple of girls I dated that is genuinly interested in hearing about my day and wants to know how im feeling. I can honestly tell her anything. another green flag is seeing how she treats her freinds and family, as well as how she treats and talks about yours. also, being religious. Every religious girl Ive dated has been pretty good and lasts.
another thing to note is how she drinks and how she acts when she's drunk.
>What religious denomination are you?
Roman Catholic
>Also what age would you recommend getting married at?
I couldn't say, a lot of my family married young, my parents married when they were older. the only thing I will say is try your hardest to get the thornes out of your butt when you're younger. I married young and found a fantastic partner, I sometimes wish I had found her a little later in life though.
>>71739932
you simply find somebody you can trust really well and easily, so you don't have reason to fear for any of that.
