Not a day goes by without news about more potent forms of degeneracy...
>>71733435
>Lies.
>Slander.
>Protect the kids.
>>71733435
> generate massive hype over something almost no one has heard of
> the only way to solve this problem will be more government control
I just spoiled 75% of """""news""""" for you.
>>71733435
>the drug war has failed for the past 60 years
>so let's keep doing it111!!!!!!
Dear fucking god people are retarded.
>this is worst ___ since ___ years
FUCK OOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF
>>71734662
This
1-(4-Nitrophenylethyl)piperidylidene-2-(4-chlorophenyl)sulfonamide (W-18) is a highly potent μ-opioid agonist with a distinctive chemical structure which is not closely related to older established families of opioid drugs. It was invented at the University of Alberta[1] by the chemists Edward Knaus, Brent Warran and Theodore Ondrus in 1981.[2]
There have been two incidents ever where this has been found.
Alberta Law Enforcement Response Teams (ALERT) seized four kilograms of an unrecognized powder in a drug bust in Edmonton in December 2015.[3] Investigators sent it to be tested, and received confirmation in April 2016 that it was W-18. It was also detected by Health Canada in at least three of 110 fentanyl tablets seized from a Calgary home in August 2015.[4]
>>71733435
>potent
won't they just cut it with something until it is less potent? it's just a slightly different opioid?
>>71733435
>make the safe harmless alternative illegal and throw people in jail for possessing it
>be surprised when people use deadly shit that's legal
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>71734937
>Any opiate
>Safe or harmless
wait
it's legal and they still seized it?
>>71735258
>pot
>opiate
>>71733435
hope you idiots actually die from W-18 tbqh. morons doing drugs.
>>>/weedcentral/
>>71735352
It probably has to be prescribed or something.
>>71733435
I thought all forms of opioids were illegal because they're highly addictive?
I dunno, maybe it's a good thing I don't know shit about drugs. Shows I'm not some degenerate druggy I guess. I'll stick with being a degenerate alcoholic, thank you very much.
>To put in perspective, this is enough to kill every man, woman and child in Alberta about 45 times over
There are 4.2 million people in Alberta.
4,000 / (4,200,000*45) = 0.00002
0.00002 grams of this shit can kill a person? Sounds like bullshit
>>71736579
Even posting an image of the drug is enough to trigger addiction, it's that dangerous anon
>>71736579
Kilograms you dumb jew
>>71736745
4 kilograms are 4,000 grams you uneducated Amerifat.
wew, another Evil Killer Drug that is Worse than Anything Ever Before and will Destroy Everything
thank god we have the media to warn us!
>>71736847
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>lethal dose of .0000211 grams
That would make it orders of magnitude more deadly than any other substance on the planet. Seems reasonable
>>71736579
Assuming that was true it would make this stuff around 50 times more lethal than VX nerve gas. I suspect someone was talking right out of his ass.
>>71736579
2 micrograms of fentanyl is a huge dose under time-release transdermal administration, so this doesn't really surprise me.
>>71737129
So you're saying we need 200 kg of VX to exterminate the Albertans?
>>71733435
Imagine if drugs weren't illegal, but rather state-distributed at competing prices.
But here I am, bringing ridiculous ultra-solutions to issues we've had for decades without anyone having the balls to do anything about it. Silly me.
>>71737188
Something like that.
>>71736579
phentanyl sold in medical doses of 0.00005 grams here in russia.
There are in fact more potent opioids in existence. So totaly plausible.
>>71733435
>keep making the safer drugs illegal
>surprised when more dangerous ones have to be developed to fill a void
You will never stop humans from doing drugs.
Fuck, even the plebs drink alcohol.
>>71735352
Why are you surprised?
>>71735931
No.
It serves no purpose other than getting people high, but it hasn't been part of the 'system' yet, so it's technically not illegal.
It got seized because it was found during a drug-bust - same would have happened if it had been powdered sugar.
>>71733435
North America is so cucked. Looking at you Mexico.
>>71737300
look at portugal you druggie faggot
>>71736847
Wew, savage...!
they are a statistical anomaly. That doesn't exist if you go outside your house. 8 billion people, something weird is bound to happen. statistically.
>>71737502
I don't give a fuck about third world countries. Sorry, Rio de Janeiro, but your nation is a worse shithole than the US. Don't talk to me.. don't do anything, just shoo. Begone. Go away.
>>71737686
oh sorry I thought this was a random violence thread. didn't read lol.
>>71737300
>state-distributed
What if the government fucked off for once and let the market handle things?
>>71736579
>0.00002 grams of this shit can kill a person? Sounds like bullshit
Fent is usually given out in mircograms, it is quite strong, usually given in time-released patches or lolipops for terminal cancer
I don't get what they're saying here, are they claiming there's a a new form of it on the streets in powdered form? This all sounds like bullshit hysteria.
t. med school fag
>>71733435
>drug that kills the user
It's perfect, why would we want to stop this?
>2016
>any drugs still illegal
Are you aware of the current year?
>>71733435
4 kilos of uncut opiate.
Enough to kill all 91 people in Alberta.
No shit.
>>71737824
analog to fentanyl, 100x more potent. Just like acetyl-fentanyl is an analog of fentanyl
a drug that kills it's users out right won't last long.
>>71737186
>>71737464
>>71737824
So what's up with the fentanyl pill in the OP? Shouldn't that be enough to kill thousands of people?
>>71736579
Why is that suprising?
Thats a huge dose as far as most poisons are concerned
>>71734937
>safe harmless alternative
Anon I...
>>71735486
weed isn't an alternative to opiates
opiates are for pain, weed is for 'pain' (liking weed)
>>71738137
The entire pills is mostly fillers and maybe 0.0001% is the drug
>>71737186
>>71737464
>fentanyl lethal in small dosages
>find target
>make them fall down and get a cut
>offer a sealed band-aid with fentanyl on the gauze
>victim puts it on
>they die later
>>71737809
When the state monopolises the distribution of something, there's more control.
The whole point with this is to take a market away from organised crime and ruin the crime lords whose presence currently leads to niggers chimping out with fully automatic weaponry in the streets.
Do you understand why the problem currently is private investors redistributing the drugs available?
I really don't understand why so many on this board want to keep drugs illegal. Cull the population of people who are dumb enough to get hooked on them, shoot and kill the ones who steal for the money to continue to do them.
>>71738287
I think there is already probably stuff that does that.
>>71738137
>So what's up with the fentanyl pill in the OP? Shouldn't that be enough to kill thousands of people?
Fent not as strong when taken orally, think it loses a lot in first pass through liver.
It's dangerous taken IV or absorbed through skin. Thi is going to make it to the US one way or another, esp in NYS now that they've made it almost impossible to get opiate scripts with the new pharmacy control system.
>>71738460
True. Even more reason not to accept things from people in public (if they want you dead for some reason).
>>71738444
Or distribute it through government for extra income.
I don't understand why nations don't simply set up opium-shelters where a user can get high at a tenth of the price, without having to fear being busted by cops or shot by some nigger whose pusher bailed on him.
Honestly... this is the ultimate solution.
If people are stupid enough to do drugs, and stupid enough to raise their kids into pieces of shit that do drugs, then they deserve to die and we should let nature take it's course.
>>71734841
Hahaha they invented the shit then blame it on the people selling it on the black market
Ez
>>71735493
/alcohol nation/
>>71733435
>Drug that kills the drug addicts
I fail to see the problem. We need a lot more of this.
>>71738137
He asks to spike palestinian water supply with it.
>>71738632
>If people are stupid enough to do drugs, and stupid enough to raise their kids into pieces of shit that do drugs, then they deserve to die and we should let nature take it's course.
not that simple, really. Have known literal brain surgeons who get hooked on oxy and then get a tolerance and work their way up.
Research shows it's genetic-- example, the same people doing meth aren't the types doing opiates. It's probably a neuro shortage of opiods or some sort of sensitivity to them.
Opiates/opiods aren't like coke or whatever..once you get a habit, you try to stop and you go into a Dt hell you can't imagine.
Problem only going to get worse in the US.
>>71738629
State makes more money importing it and selling it wholesale to black market distributors. And there's no reason for the state to maintain control of distribution under legalization, the same thing can be done with private companies that don't have all the other powers of government.
>>71739153
What's wrong with that?
Legal opiate? Never heard of it. I'm interested. Is it a RC? I'm guessing people shoot it? Is it deadly because of potency or what?
>>71739689
I don't trust the private sector to run any legitimate business and also maintain a sense of responsibility towards the general population.
Humans are greedy. We cannot trust humans to work for the benefit of mankind.
>>71733435
First answer, best answer.
Aye thanks you dickheads up north. Got nothing better to do than jerk off to maple syrup and synthesize drugs?
Tfw opiate user and am interested to try this shit due to said potency
>>71741565
*jerk off WITH maple syrup
Ftfy
>>71733435
I sold heroin since I was 16. 20 now and let me tell you, the government flooded the streets with pharmaceutical grade heroin RIGHT after the Jews stopped making original OxyContin
Here is what went down
>hooked nosed shakler brothers create Purdue pharma
>market the drug as "non Abusable" and "tamper proof"
>some geriatric society government fucking think tank/whatever the fuck decides to encourage docs to push opiates for minor pain
>opiate epidemic in America
>Americans are so fat and opiated that Super Bowl commercials advertise special drugs to help opiate addicted Americans take shits
>Afghanistan war
>heroin is being stocked up in some military base
>Jews OxyContin patent comes up so the Jews frantically create a new "non Abusable" formula and try to get lawmakers to ban generic OxyContin
>price of OxyContin skyrockets and I cash out by hoarding the pills and selling them for 90 a pop
>2 months later and BOOOOM heroin EVERYWHERE to satisfy north Americas drug lust. Now niggers have even more automatic weapons and the Masonic police get more shekels to combat the crime
Moral of the story is that Jews are literally behind everything
>>71733435
>drug isn't illegal
>sieze it anyway
Fucking cops
>>71742225
I'm scum myself but that's not the point here
>>71734662
LOOK HERE YOU FUCKING IDIOT
TELL ME WHAT THE MULTIPLE QUOTATION MARKS MEAN OR ELSE
IVE FUCKING ASKED YOU CUNT 9 TIMES NOW
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS MEME ABOUT? WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
DID YOU FIND IT ON REDDIT?
FUCKING TELL ME HOW YOU CAME UP WITH IT CUNT
>>71736579
it 10000 times stronger then morphine
lethal dose of morphine is 200mg (0,2g). 0,2/10000= 0,00002.
So yeah, the math checks out.
>>71742340
Its repeated and exaggerated air quotes.
>>71741924
and when you die, nothing of value will be lost.
>>71741924
yep sounds like a challenge. although I haven't done any opiates in a couple years.
Idea: Don't take drugs
>>71742421
Thank you, leaf
>>71742406
>lethal dose of morphine is 200mg
Varies tremendously, that's the "lethal dose" for an opiate naive person.
People can build up tolerances you wouldn't fucking believe.
wonder if this is what killed prince?
>>71737186
2mcg is nothing.
I used to have 40mcg/hr patches. Or was that buprenorphine?
>>71742225
Florida is becoming completely flooded with H. Oxy and D's are too expensive, about $40 a pill. H is cheaper but I don't want to deal with nigs.
>>71742652
This.
I was once prescriped 40mg Oxy a day and took 350 for shits and giggles and was fine. People take everything at face value when it comes to drugs but it varies far too much.
>>71736847
Kick his ass, Seabasstein.
>>71733435
Alcohol is incredibly addictive and damaging.
Where's the outrage there?
>>71734662
Reminds me of the toilet fume huffing report.
Anyways, legalize all drugs. Its not within the proper purview of the government to deprive citizens of liberty for exercising their essential liberties.
>>71743156
^ this... legalize
Weekend warrior here can't wait to clock out and do a rail of crystal
>>71735486
Opiates act on opioid neurotransmitters.
That's the commonality drawing together opium, heroin, morphine and the drug in the OP.
Marijuana works on a whole different set of neurotransmitters.
There's a reason why one set of drugs is highly addictive and lethal and the other is almost impossible to od on or become addicted to.
>>71743050
just detox bro. I'm on day 3 and I'm chillin in my gmas luxury condo and taking advantage of the unlimited hot water showers to keep me warm. I also got a shitload of Valiums. Detoxing is easy if ur only coming off heroin/oxy, it's methadone that's a problem
>>71742214
tried anal with honey once , not a good idea
So how sketchy is order research chemicals? Are most websites legit? Like, just order straight off a site google gives me? If it does get siezed what are the legal repercussions?
>>71743741
Oh, I'm not bad on opiates. I do them every couple weeks or month. I just helped a friend get an oxy and didn't think twice about getting one myself. I'm not really dependent on them, it's more of a habit. What does have me fucked up are benzos. I've been prescribed xanax for 10 years. I'd walk to the other end of the earth for one right now. I'd rather deal with this than GAD though. Thanks for the concern. Be careful with that done, especially with that valium, I've lost family to that shit.
>>71737809
>"But ohh no the big pharma cartels are going to fuck the populations over we need to increase gov control"
>"Politicians proceeds to use the new power to protect the ones that paid for their campaigns and more (i.e. the big pharma)
>"Thank you gubermint you're my greatest ally!"
Seriously the idea of a government stopping companies from doing evil shit is a good dream, but that's it just a dream.
NO DRUGS
NO CIGARETTES
NO ALCOHOL
>>71743741
>it's methadone that's a problem
yeah, tell me about it. Have a Dr. here have known since I was a kid who writes it as a script for me so don't need to go be with niggers, but terrified of him dying or retiring.
>>71744128
The research chemical websites are legit.
BUT
My now ex-roommate. Was a peachy motherfucker the first two years we lived together. Once he started ordering benzo's and opiates off the research chemical sites it was like... He knew he was heading towards a cliff but just punched the gas.
Poor fag lives at his moms home now and is generally kinda fucked in his head. No self control. If your weak will'd (if your doing drugs you are) than id highly recommend against using them.
>>71743966
Coconut oil. Amazing how long it lasts before needing to reapply.
>>71744732
i really hope your not trolling . ill try it
>>71744513
Do you think he's weak willed because benzos make you do stupid stuff or do you think he's legit fried? Recently some benzos have been shown to exponentially increase the risk of alzheimer's and other things. I could also see it loosening contingencies with someone with a latent problem, especially schizophrenia. I could easily see these RC fucking your brain up up, we don't know enough about them. I'm more worried about my mental health than anything, you know what they about curiosity though.
>>71733435
are you people retarded? Fentanyl is one of the most important painkillers in hospitals and has to be prescribed - do americans even use this wonderdrug?
>>71744928
I can't type. I'm done.
Edmonton was a mistake
>>71744928
Weak Will'd because of the Benzo's he was like a pathetic husk of his original self. Started self diagnosing himself with random thing A or Random thing B. His up's and his downs could NEVER be explained by his drug use (Sarcasm)
Was pretty crazy to watch it all devolve.
>Hakique Virani
Wew
>>71744904
Not trolling, it's pretty nice for jerking off too. Don't do vaginal with it though, there's two kinds and I forget which one causes real bad yeast infections.
>>71742340
I fucking hate it too kangaroobro.
>>71744732
That shit is amazing treatment for acne, a very good oil to cook stuff as well.
>>71737464
Is krokodil still going around there?
>>71744128
Really eh? So weird how different people prefer different drugs. I don't even enjoy benzos but I've robbed people for dope. Most benzo addicts seem more far gone then the opiate addicts. I know a people who are permanently retarded from too much Xanax
>>71745012
They are cracking down hard on painkillers now. My grandfather was in a lot of pain when dying of cancer and my family had to fight to get him fentanyl patches.
>>71744128
Kek, I don't get the whole benzo thing. I've been prescribed xanax for ten years too and i have tons of that shit laying around because i get the scripts refilled but hardly ever use it. Prescribed it for situational panic attacks so i don't need it all the time. All it ever does for me is make me tired. I mean it works great for anxiety and prevents me from having panic attacks but it's recreational value is nothing for me. Just makes me tired. On the other hand pain pills, forget it, I'd walk to the other side of the planet for one of those. I get them from my weed dealer but limit myself to 10 every month or two and use them sparingly.
>>71746202
The deal with the xanax is probably my anxiety. I've had general anxiety my whole life, first time I took a xan it pretty much made me feel like I felt I was suppose to, I do enjoy the high a lot but I wouldn't say I take it recreationally.
>>71746613
Yeah, I don't get panic attacks anymore, just a steady long feeling of anxiety out of nowhere. Makes me pretty avoidant.
>>71746059
I imagine that it is considering that I know a councilor at a women's shelter in Toronto, she says that bitches be rotting from the inside out. It's gotta be coming from somewhere.
I wish I had been able to experiment with more drugs. In 3 weeks I'll be an officer and head off to flight school, so no more opportunities. I really, really enjoy exploring the mind. The first time I did DXM and the first time I did NBOMe (thought it was LSD at the time) blew my fucking mind. I've only smoked weed twice, DXM twice, NBOMe once, and morning glory seeds once.
I just wish I had a chance to experiment more. I'm just a really curious individual. To me, the mind is everything. I'll remember my NBOMe trip for the rest of my life.
But at the same time, I'm not willing to risk my future, now that I've achieved my dreams of being a pilot.
>>71747408
I made the right choice. I'm 20 yr old high school dropout who's done everything under the sun. You didn't miss out on anything
>>71747696
You made the right choice*
so the government has just released this new drug among their slinger informants to make more drug busts down the line yes?
>>71747696
I don't have any desire to try heroin or meth, but I would have liked to try coke, lsd, and shrooms.
>>71747967
LSD is fun, shrooms are not my thing, and coke is fucking dangerous imo.
I mean, I did coke at every party over a couple of months, and after a while you can't have fun partying without it(which was the sign to me that it was time to stop using it).
>>71742406
that's an "estimated LD50".
There have been no studies done on the lethality of opiates in humans, because it would be unethical to take 200 humans and start pumping 100 of them full of opiates and the other 100 with saline and record at what dosage they die.
This number is a guesstimate based upon primate death rates scaled up to human weight.
