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>Japan is 99.9% non-white
>Latin american countries have higher % of white
>Japan is still better than any latin american countries

okay. my neo-nazi friends. can you explain this?

If you non-scientific racism theory is correct, isn't Japan be more shithole(I am not saying Japan is good) than latin america?
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>>71713986
Latin countries are always corrupt shit holes. Being Latino is to embody corruption.
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>>71713986
Hitler himself indulged in Japanese culture when he wore a kimono.
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>he fell for the X-country is redpilled meme
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A place where there is child porn animated being legal and called loli... its just a fucking shithole
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Japanese are honorary whites
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>>71714114
It's legal in Spain m9
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>>71714089
Whoa that is one brutally retarded image
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>>71714180
We do not praise it "colega"
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>>71713986
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
The problem isn't that anyone is inferior to whites. The problem is that hard evidence that suggests that Blacks truly are less intelligent. Than all peoples.
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>>71713986
Modern Japan sucks. It's known for just a few things: Pedophilia, extreme gun control, and population decline. Modern Japan doesn't represent traditional values. It represents rampant faggotry and anime faggots eat it up. They spread feminizing cartoons that normalize sexual deviancy just because it makes them feel good. Japan needs to disappear. Also, Asians are the niggers of the East.
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>>71714395
>Japan needs to disappear
>anime needs to disappear
you monster
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>>71714353
Whites are the fairest race. You cannot deny this. Jews and Chinks are more conniving.
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>>71713986
>honorary
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>>71714452
Only faggy Swissposter I've ever seen. They're usually based.
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>>71714180
Spain is a shithole too.
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>>71714395
>Pedophilia
We have very little crime cases involving pedophilia here
>extreme gun control
something wrong with that? I don't want edgy teenagers going on a shooting spree in schools every week like in your country.
>population decline
Every first world country has a declining population.
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>>71713986
>racially homogenous society with no multi cult

I wonder why it's not a complete shithole..
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>>71713986
>non-scientific racism

what are allele frequencies, desu senpai?
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>>71714592
Is pedophilla only the actual rape of children in your mind?
Not gonna touch the gun control comment.
Your last statement is just incorrect.
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>>71713986
name one relevant or useful thing that those contries have contributed to humanity.

sensei why haven't killed yourself yet?
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>>71714592
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pedophilia
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>>71714725
Why haven't you, faggot?
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>>71713986
I can't stand anime at all, but when I went to Japan for a holiday I thought it was absolutely beautiful. Would love to live there one day.
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>>71713986
Japan was a shithole before they were basically annexed by the US, dipshit. Before the nips had their culture Americanized, everyone was an illiterate rice farmer, and even the royalty couldn't invent armor better than Germanic barbarians.
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>>71713986
it isn't that no other race is even minimally capable of running a civilization, it's that whites are best at running the standing western civilizations, and that adding nonwhites fucks up white civilization. Asian civilization is still civilization. Nigger civilization is huts in the desert. the pollutants in western civilization are nigger based.
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>>71714763
Because I'm not a racemixing cultural marxist like op. Also, your fat ass would be the first to enter the furnace you hambeast.
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>>71713986
Whites and Asians are both masterrace. everything else is shit.
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>>71714395
atleast they don't have niggers
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Ask a white guy that just fucked a japanese chick anything.
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>>71714847
Baseless accusation. Just grasping at straws.
>Y-you're fat!
Anime faggot telling me I'd burn before him.
wew lad
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>>71713986

They say East Asians are smarter than whites but just not as creative
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>>71714395
>extreme gun control
Japan with its so low crime rate doesn't need any weapons.

>population decline
That will safe Japan. The country is highly overpopulated (as many other countries). With automation and robots taking over lots of jobs within the next decades, a population decline is the best what could happen.

>anime faggots
You can only see anime faggots in specific districts (Akiba, Nakano Broadway, ..). I know USA only knows Japan for its anime but it is not that represente actually.

>before they were basically annexed by the US
No, before they opened their borders to the west.

You guys are just jealous because Japan doesn't give a shit about diversity like the US. You are basically the cancer of the world, making all the problems.
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>>71714924
At least I don't have a nigger for president.
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>>71714674
>Is pedophilla only the actual rape of children in your mind?
No, but as long as they don't commit any crimes and offenses then you can just totally ignore people with degenerate fetishes.
>Your last statement is just incorrect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate
Only shitholes are on the top of the list
>>71714773
>Before the nips had their culture Americanized, everyone was an illiterate rice farmer
Are cannucks this retarded?
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>>71713986
Japan is a homogenous society and Japanese have higher average intelligence.
This information is Pretty basic.
now fuck off jap shitposter
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>>71714964
this, based ally knows
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>>71714964

>That will safe Japan

How will that save it, idiot? Who'll keep the country running when it has more retired than working-age people?
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>>71715047
At least we will last longer than Europe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmhF2rtEdQ
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>>71714977
>italians
>white
>having a leg to stand on
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Love living in japan as a white piggu, but I know just by being here I am literally helping change what makes japan so great.
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>>71714964
>opened their borders to the west
Oh, you mean how we wrote their constitution after defeating them in war?
Japan is a vassal state of the US.
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>>71714978
Are Japan's this delusional?

There's a reason Japan started conquering shitty little islands to escape the mundanity of being an irrevelant rock where the warrior class is only good at killing poor people.

Name one Japanese work of art/movie/literature from the last twenty years that isn't derivative of western culture.
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>>71714977
Valid.
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>>71713986
a country is a product of the culture/people with in it. If you say White countries are better then Latinos because of the culture/people it has nothing to do with Japan at all. Trying to take that comparison and say "oh well Japan has less white people then Latino countries, your argument is busted" is strait up retard magic.
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>>71715195
Godzilla
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The thing is OP you assume I think whites are overall 'better' than Asians. We're not. We're better at many things, but they are also better than us at quite a lot of things.

Human beings have breeds, much like dogs, and subspecies. This should be obvious if you just look at a native Japanese girl side-by-side with a white girl, or indeed a black with a white or an abo with a semite. I'm sure you've seen the images.

Now, there are inferior breeds of dogs. This is quite objective. The border collie, for example. I'm sure you know where I'm going with this...

The bottom line is that race realism is a much more sound and reasonable belief over white supremacy. Keep in mind, race realism involves a certain degree of white supremacy which is just based on objective standards of achievement.
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>>71715157
kek you're probably half mexican yourself.

>his country will be ruled by a cuck like this in the future
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>>71715110

>it doesn't matter if we collapse in 15 years, Europe will collapse in 10!

Nice logic, you fat virgin weaboo faggot.
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>>71714978
Declining fertility rate is different than declining population, senpai. Our population still goes up every year. Yours doesn't.
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>>71715271
Typo, meant to write that the border collie is Superior, not Inferior.
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>>71715235
Lmao
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>>71714592
ANY amount of GUN CONTROL means your country is shit.

The only gun control any one needs is the second admmendment
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>>71715047
As I said: Automation, robots, .. if you still think that is not the future, then I can't help you. Less people means less ressources needed. Of course they might can't compete anymore with the global market, but that wasn't in Japan's favor anyway (with their long isolated history).

>>71715181
Learn history, anon. They modernized in the 19th century.
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>>71715235
Wouldn't exist without the invention of the atomic bomb by the mighty Americans. Literally a creation of US even within its own fiction.
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>>71715195
Karate or Kungfu movies?
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>>71715289
OP is probably a troll or that english teacher cuck who wants immigrants in japan because otherwise he'll be jobless within the next semester.
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The concept of Aryan supremacy is literally just a meme, an idealized human being. Ethnic Aryans aren't actually the top of the world's totem pole, more like 3rd. Asians are literally superior to whites.

>b-but I don't like their culture, they eat dogs and have no souls!

Completely irrelevant to the subject of racial statistics. If Hispanic posters can accept that whites are better than them then why can't you whites accept that Asians are superior to you? In the end it really doesn't matter, Jews still run the show at the end of the day.
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>>71714725
Name one thing Mexico has contributed to the world
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>>71714395
My friend is in Japan at the moment. He said he was on the tram when a muslim started praying to Allah, and that three japanese men got up and started beating him up ruthlessly.

I'm moving to japan dude.
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>>71715443
drugs
rape
unemployment
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>>71715427
>Asians are literally superior to whites.
A colony of ants, no matter how grand, will never be kings of more than a hill of dirt. If you look for the grandest colony, you will find it among those dyed yellow. But if you want the species to at least have the chance to outlive this blue marble, then the only reasonable hope is the white race.
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>>71713986
What you said supports the claim that races are by nature different. Neo nazis are idiots though, and 90% of them would be purged by actual Nazis for being drug abusing uncivilized degenerates.
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>>71715427
Whites are the fairest race. Asians are little better than niggers. See this post: >>71714395
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>>71713986
>What is the exception that proves the rule?
>Implying Japanese isn't honorary whites

Admittedly, we had to make a few crispy nips before you guys fell in line, but it all worked out in the end.
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>>71715401
That has nothing to do with western culture though so shut your mouth you cuckleaf
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>>71715457
that is a lie. japanese will not ever do anything to anyone in public like that, they just look the other way.
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>>71715392

>Less people means less ressources needed

Whereas the machines replacing the population work on rainbow unicorns and happy thoughts. No resources required there, no sir, no manufacture, no maintenance, just build 'em once and they'll keep on chugging forever.
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>>71714114
Animated. It's actually cartoons. Wtf do pedo cartoons have to do with anything?
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>>71713986
Japan is a social experiment controlled by US. Classic example what can be accomplished with only 3 generations of whitewashing. And radiation of course.
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>>71713986
Japanese are white.

White skin = White.

I don't remember the meeting where being white was dependent on the shape of your eyes.
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>>71715604
Automation replaces more people than you need to maintain it
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>>71715552
Is making feminizing cartoons that frequently feature pedophila and other forms of sexual deviancy your idea of falling in line? Just another form of degeneracy, brother. Imperial Japan was better. Burn, faggot.
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The non whites had been evolving under the hot sun and comfy conditions that's why they aren't used to thinking by brain and have dark color of skin.
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>>71714773
>everyone was an illiterate rice farmer,
KEK, approximately 80% of Japanese people were said to be literate during the Edo period (before industrialization). And that was even before leaf country became independent.
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>>71713986

>okay. my neo-nazi friends. can you explain this?

This can easily be explained by the fact that while Japan is 99% non-white, it is also 99.9% non-nigger.

Are you referring to the retarded skinheads or people who actually came to have nazi values after putting actual thought into it?

Because I'm pretty sure the skinheads are a fucking parody and really only spew their uneducated shit around while in a brainless state of constant confusion.

Those of us that are capable of thinking at a level equal or higher that that of a potato on the other hand, pretty much acknowledge that the nips of not other Asians as well, are in fact worth keeping alive.
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Japanese are OK. Jews are also exception, they're excellent in math.
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>>71715646
>Being this autistic.
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>>71715745
>Jews are also exception

Didn't you guys make that mistake once already?
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>>71715658

When you rely solely on it to replace your declining/aging population? No.

So far, we've only seen that work in factories. Applying it to society at large would prove a disaster, as Japan will probably find out soon.
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>>71715849
Don't you like Google?
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>>71715856
What are you retarded? No matter at what scale you automate, you will still be losing number of workers needed. Learn to math serb
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>>71715755
he right do
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>>71715674
Maximum edge and lying.

Congrats
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>>71715856
>would prove a disaster
People like you demonized the Television when they got popular. They also demonized books when people started reading them.
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>>71715674
>Japan creates perfect women at prime breeding age free of 3d degeneracy

The world is a lost cause senpai, you're going to need something to keep you sane until it happens, and something to comfort you when It's over/
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>>71713986
proxy nippon-chan
simple answer for you.
no niggers, no shitskins
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>>71715959
No.
Don't you hate liberals?
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>>71716150
We do actually have black Japanese people here, though unlike the ones found in Europe and the U.S, they are quite based
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because shit color skin vs white people
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>Singapore is 98% non-white
>Singapore is 14% Muslim
>Singapore is an economically thriving first world city state with ZERO Islamic terrorist attacks

Explain this /pol/
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>>71716231
prove it
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>>71716239
Islam itself explains it.
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>>71716231
But isn't it outrageous for japanese to see their women with a black?
What would be worse, a nip girl with a black gaijin or white gaijin?
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>>71716094
>Asains are white people.
No he isn't.
When people say white they mostly mean white Europeans. Like always.
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>>71716102
Didn't lie.
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>>71716239
>Singapore is 14% Muslim
>Singapore is an economically thriving first world city state with ZERO Islamic terrorist attacks
Indonesian immigrant spotted
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>>71716239
>start shit with whites
>get coddled

>start shit with anyone else
>get genocided


Explained.
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>>71716113

>means of getting information are the same as completely replacing entire industries' worth of labor with machines

Christ....

>>71716008

>No matter at what scale you automate, you will still be losing number of workers needed

Prove it, you fucking faggot. Give me one example when mass-scale automation happened and it completely eliminated the need for a balanced population. What's that? You can't? You're just shitposting? Thought so, nigger.
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>>71716410
Yes you did and you know it.

I know we're on an anonymous imageboard but I'd like you to examine yourself every now and then. It's the only way to grow as a person.
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>>71714534
Indeed.
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>>71714089
I was expected some really in depth retort but it turned out to be the dumbest thing I've read all week. Dd the guy who make this image actually think that made any fucking sense or did he make it to feel the bern?
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>>71716462
Please don't hate on animus
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>>71716490
Tell me exactly what I said that was incorrect. Don't just tell me to examine myself, retard. I've re-read my post and everything in there is functionally correct.
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>>71716455
You are pretty naive, if you think this won't be the future. It is happening for around 100 years already and you still think automation is wrong?

>>71716377
>When people say white they mostly mean white Europeans. Like always.
And the >60% Americans, kek.
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>>71716462
If you remove one molecule of water from the open spigot of degeneracy, would it make a difference?
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>>71714089
>every american has the right to the best quality healthcare
does that include illegal immigrants and refugees?
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I lived in Japan when I was little, pretty fun stuff. Went to a bathhouse a few times and I didn't get raped because the country was raycis and not culturally enriched.
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>>71716455
Clearly my preconceptions of serbs were horribly wrong. I thought you subhuman non-whites at least learned basic math over there. How did you even get your hands on and figure out how to work a computer?
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>a homogeneous country with high quality people does better than heterogeneous countries with lower quality people

You're on the wrong end of the bell curve, aren't you, retard-kun?
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>>71716590
"frequently" was a lie and you're in general magnifying small aspects of a society to make an argument about its entirety.

You know this is dishonest and while it might win you the argument right now it will only lead to unclean thinking and sloppy arguments in the future.
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>>71716607

>It is happening for around 100 years already and you still think automation is wrong?

Population decline to the point of having to automatize entirely has been happening for a 100 years already? You must've been living on a different planet than the rest of us.

>>71716671

>ad homs instead of providing factual arguments

Thought to. Why don't you go back to popping your Xanax and leave thinking to people who are actually capable of it, you fat fucking shitskin?
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Japan. Very isolated. Everything must be presented as non-threatening to them, they hate when other races appear smarter, superior to them. No sense of emergence. Are they really smart or just good at memorization? Known facts doesn't necessarily mean they are intelligent or can create. Culture seems to border with depression and self-deprivation, as most other Asian countries.
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>>71716846
>serbs
>capable of ANYTHING
You sad little man, i pity you
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>>71716920

Lmao.
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>>71717043
>serbs
>capable of ANYTHING
Why did we give you a country in the first place? Should have drawn the lines better
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>>71717078

Lmao.
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>>71713986

Japanese are a better race than whites. The hierarchy of races goes like this

Best race: Japanese, Korean and Chinese outside of China
Good race: northern European whites
Slightly suspect race: Southern Europeans, Southeast Asians
Doomed to third world races: mestizos, Indians of India, Arabs
Wild animals: chimpanzees, gorillas
Even less than that: niggers
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>>71715392
>Japan modernized in the 19th century
Biggest mistake desu
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>>71713986
Weaboos are fucking cancer. We get it, you hate being white.

Maybe too many white girls rejected you?
Maybe because their pop culture is more suited to your autistic tastes?
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>>71715596
One thing that overrides a japanese man's apathy is their hate for muslims.

No, my friend is not a liar, he's a legit good kid who's in Japan studying.
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>>71717166
>Chinese outside of China
You are a fucking idiot. THEY ARE KNOWN SJWs.
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>>71717118
LMAO

Good thing the big strong white countried were there to save you
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>>71717295

So are white people in universities. SJWism is an unfortunate side effect of intelligence misapplied to trivial matters by sheltered young people.
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>>71717390

Yes, thanks yank, freeing us from a white future.. thanks
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>>71715195
>Name one English-Canadian work of art/movie/literature from the last twenty years that isn't derivative of American culture.

I can't.

Japan, like China, has a rich and unique history and culture, both high and low. Anglo-Canadian culture is just US culture, except our high culture is 200% more liberal and condensed.
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>>71717166
Where do Abos rank on this list?
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>>71716231
Ding Ding! Cuck detected!

lol you mean scum niggers that sell jeans or solicit your for prostitutes in Tokyo? The only time I've had trouble here is with blacks.

Fuck off back to your eikaiwa faggot, work doesn't end until 9.
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>>71714964
That picture is just factually wrong. Just take a look at Yemen nowadays.
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>>71717166

Where does G-d's chosen people land?
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>He thinks Asians are inferior to whites

Only niggers are good friend
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>>71717078
Implying that burgers can geography
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>>71714089

R-Rand Paul really said that?

That's super retarded even for an amerifat
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>>71715693
If they weren't illiterate, then why weren't they using English?
Checkmate.
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>>71713986
Because socialism and corruption.
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Just me or all the Japanese posters on /pol/ are unnecessarily rude?
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>>71720208
I'm a bigger fan of the Russians as well
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>>71713986
Adolf Hitler was actually Japanese, OP.

Checkmate.
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>>71713986

Your conclusions are retarded and I think you are a bit confused. Why didn't you write it like this?

>Japan is 99.9% Japanese
>Latin American countries have small percentages of whites
>Therefore Latin American countries should be better off than Japan (according to neo-nazis)

Either way, you would still be mistaken. Which neo-nazis claimed this?

All racists I have encountered concur that whites and east asians are the two superior races on earth.
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>>71713986
I am a nationalist and I think that a strong country working for the same values and goals within same cultural ideology will become a strong and thriving country.

I don't think whites are superior compared to the Japanese who have invented 100s of technologies that allow one to masturbate to 2d waifu's at home and enable the miracle of dying alone without any offspring.
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>>71714917
did she cry as your gargantuan white penis filled her with Aryan seed?
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>>71720789
He wuz black yo
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>>71713986
Japan is strong while most other Asian countries are weak. You're one of the few people who are willing to get your hands dirty to get ahead. My grandfather would be mad to hear me say this because his father died fighting your country, but Japan is an all around winner who cucks the rest of Asian. Be proud not ashamed my friend.
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>>71715604
I think he is saying that more jobs are replaced by automation so the population is shrinking to match the employment need, ideally the pay for laborers will rise to match the specialization needed and the system will continue but will be more sensitive to sicknesses, accidents and early deaths or refusal to enter the work force / accept what work is available.

I think a good comparison is a 3 question school test against a 100 question school test. Getting one question wrong is detrimental to the grade or inconsequential.

Does that all follow? I believe the short coming lies in the assumption of 100% labor force participation, which short of moving to an economic system that adheres and forces it, is ultimately not likely to happen.

But what do I know, I'm just an Ameristar in the sticks raising chickens.
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>>71713986

Because Japs are the kings of East Asia and East Asia is second only to Europe in terms of human advancement.

Japan also has a long history of being able to defend itself and remain uncucked.

Now, if Japan was 50% Africa...how do you think it would be faring? What about if we added some communism to the mix?
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>>71713986

Are you serious?

Japan is a homogenous asian country. It's proof that not letting in shitskins will lead to a good stable society that works for the benefit of the people.

I wish the west were more like Japan.

Also Asians are a noble and good race of people, even Hitler liked them and allied with them in the war and called then honorary aryan. Of course you don't want Chinese coming to your country and buying everything up, but you wouldn't want anyone doing that.

Most white people who are racist, hate blacks, jews and arabs. Asians are fine, even a model of success really. Japan should be emulated.

Asians are like the little brother of white people. They aren't us, but they are the only other race that managed to self civilize with no outside help, they were just a little bit behind us (and in some ways ahead of us). They were the only people we weren't able to conquer and colonize. And Japan is literally the only non European power that was ever able to rival and threaten us in any significant manner. They are a highly respectable people.
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>>71713986

>Japan on the side of the Nazis in WW2

Gee, I wonder why neo-nazis don't hate you

And no "intellectual" racist has ever claimed that East Asians are inferior humans, your IQ is shown to be higher than average even for white people. It's not literally about the skin colour, it's about certain races being dumber than others and thus more prone to crime.

Of course, the irony is that Jews are the smartest race but are hated anyway, but that's another story.
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>>71723851
>the irony is that Jews are the smartest race but are hated anyway, but that's another story.

This isn't entirely true. While Jews do have quite a few really smart, they also got a lot of retarded poor Jews. Their average isn't too good really, just a decent amount of high end people make them look good as a whole because they entire culture is built around promoting their own and building themselves up.

They also inbreed a lot so they have a lot of mental health issues. Massively higher cases of mental instability than any other race.
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>>71724202

Ashkenazi Jews(which make up most of them, and almost all the ones that live in the west) show a markedly higher average IQ than every other group on every test. Even if you have an irrational hate of Jews you can't ignore facts.
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>>71724516

I don't have an irrational hate of Jews.

I used to think the same as you but it turns out Jews lie a lot (surprise surprise) and make themselves out to be smarter than they are.

Jews have only recently come to gain a lot of power, due to their top percentage conspiring together and being extremely nepotistic. If they were the smartest overall they would never have had to infiltrate us, they'd have had their own dominant culture.
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>>71720208
>implying that's not literally what all countries with public healthcare actually do
My brother is currently working his forced two years of service for the government. Same thing happens with my Brazilian cousin, or my British friend, or the brother of my swedish girlfriend.
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>>71713986
You are honorary Aryans for a reason.
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>>71724860

You seem to be too retarded to know that Jews were persecuted for 2000 years, were always a minority, and were not allowed to form their own country until after WW2, which means they could never form their own culture away from others.

No surprise coming from a neonazi.
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>>71725189
>No surprise coming from a neonazi.

I'm libertarian you dumb Norwegian faggot. Neonazi's are dumb faggots, fuck you for even thinking I am one.

>Jews were persecuted for 2000 years

This is a shit tier argument and does not effect their mental abilities at all. You rely on the disproven Tabula Rasa idea that education and upbringing shapes a person completely. When in reality it is but a part. A Priori states that genetics have a major factor.

This is why niggers brought up in rich white households generally are still dumb low IQ niggers.

>were not allowed to form their own country until after WW2

They had a nation thousands of years ago you idiot, and they fucked that up. If they are truly the most intelligent race on earth they would have innovated a way to stay on top.
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>>71714964
>American hate
You deserve to get raped by Muslims
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>>71725189
They deserve everything they've gotten and more.
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The white race is inferior.
Asians are the superior race,
White people are no better than jamal.
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>>71713986
It's the culture. Japs have always been hard-workers, regardless of circumstances. Not to mention that Japan actually suffered seventy years ago.

Latin Americans are all about what futbol game they'll see on the weekend.

And Hitler always said East Asians were as good as the Aryans. He admired them.
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>>71713986
1. Ainu
2. IQ tests
3. Culture
4. Island isolation
5. Futurism
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>>71715272
>implying

Trump will fix everything up just fine you pastanigger
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>>71724946
agreed. People saying that picture is retarded are retarded.
Nothing's free, commie universal healthcare faggots
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>>71726952
>no better than jamal
you're image says otherwise you stupid beaner. Don't you have strawberries to pick?
BUILD WALL
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Japanese girls are so cute it hurts ;_;
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>>71728392
Then fuck them, you fucking autist. I am a motherfucking Latino brown person and even I could get tail in Japan, and those bitches love white guys. None of that weebo fantasy where all girls crave your cock, but they need little proding to get them to fuck you as long as you aren't a complete sperg or hamplanet.
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>>71715427
>Asians are literally superior to whites.
Wrong Asians may be smart, but they lack creativity and ingenuity. For example give an Asian kid a math test he'll ace it no problem. Give him a creative writing assignment and he's fucked.
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>>71713986
get back to your rapebase in Okinawa, invader scum
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>>71713986
chinks are honorary Aryans
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Nips have anime, we don't.
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>>71713986
No, because Japs learned form the west, and are a good, strong, hard working people, to a fault.

God fucking damn, you on the other hand, are one dumb nigger who doesn't understand nuance.
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