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the fire rises. bad news for Merkel- polling has not recovered following activation of Turkey deal
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>>71712037
In a way rapefugees are a good thing. They will fuck up everything and redpill a lot of people. My only worry is that it'll be to late once that happens.
We are balancing between Islamic state of Germany and the 4th Reich; a middle way is no longer possible.
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Front National was on the rise too and they won fuckall. We'll have to wait and see
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>>71712037
Is afd like sd in sweden?
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This is pretty pathetic. There is no fire rising here at all... Come back when they have a majority or form a coalition with another right wing party.
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>>71712295
they are the biggest party in France, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>71712037
PVV is 25 to 28% nation wide, we dont evn have to zoom in to a specific region.

The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>71712220
I remember reading that immigrant births outnumber native births in Germany this year. It might be too late. You may be the next USA in a few decades.
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>>71712037
Thanks for making this thread.

Yeah, everything's going in the right direction, but in comparison to PVV or Front National results, this is laughable.
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>>71712490
Less right-wing, but nationalist and anti-immigration - so comparable.
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>>71712037
East Germans are backwards, racist hicks. What a surprise.
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>>71712220
this

merkel's plan is failing because they are being too blatant and obvious

the momment they wake up they will go full nazi and deport the rapists and merkel back to chad
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>>71713009
>its Germany
>AfD are striving against the full power of a hostile state and media pushing rapefugee agenda
>the falling trend of CDU is also positive

this is how I see things going, Seehofer of CSU forced out, and from that Merkel is forced out, probably in the fall after the election. a summer of rapefugee outrages will help. AfD just need to keep their noses clean, do the ground work and work towards 20%+ across all Germany
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>>71712490
The media portras both parties as right-wing populists. I don't know much about SD, but AfD is actually liberal-conservative or paläo-conservative

>>71713112
that is not true... yet. In a few years there will be cities where white Germans might become a minority. It is really unceratin since german census has not category for race or ethnicity. They just count people with migration history. So every person, who or whose parents or grandparents came to Germany after 1950 is considered to be that. So that involves a lot of ethnic Germans.
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>>71713091
It's a bit different in Germany though. The western part has been brainwashed by completely *cough* US *cough* owned media since WW2. Whereas in East Germany all media was state owned until just the last 25 years.

Now imagine if the eastern part of Germany starts favoring a completely different political path from the west?
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>>71713493
All of the Netherlands had been exposed to the same media as Germany, maybe evn more because as a smaller country we had less media of our own.

We have a tradition of very progressive liberal politics. Weed and prostitution are legal and first country to legalise gay-marriage.

There is no excuse
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>>71712037
Godspeed and gott mit uns.
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>>71713642
you didn't do holocaust. The holocaust propaganda is strong here, it goes like if you support AfD, Pegida, you're the equivalent of a Auschwitz camp guard.
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>>71712037
They'll show their incompetence in state parliaments, their single topic issue bullshit will die down (right now it's Islam and no one's really having any of their shit) and they'll crawl back whence they came from, those racist fucks.

>>71712220
>>redpill a lot of people
>>a middle way is no longer possible
The only redpill you have is the one up your arse. Nothign else is longer possible.

>>71713380
>>actually liberal-conservative or paläo-conservative
The fuck is paläo-conservative? They're shitty backwards racists, nothing else. Liberal-conservative my ass. They're reactionaries living off of dumb headlines they produce themselves.

>>71713493
>>not liking a programme because you're a dumb racist
OMG IT'S BRAINWASHING!

You people are dumb.
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>>71714198
First and foremost, you're considered to be some pseudo-concerned citizen, then dumb as fuck and then a dumb racist if you stick to your support of a shit party.
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>>71714327
sorry, I meant paleo-conservatism. Spelled it half in german half in english. My bad
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>>71714327
Implying being racist is generally a bad thing.
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>>71713380
> Nearly 25 percent of residents are foreign nationals. In addition, 40 percent residents, and 65 percent of those below the age of five, come from an immigrant background

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt#Demographics

those officially 65% are not Aussiedler...
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>>71714381
>First and foremost, you're considered to be some pseudo-concerned citizen, then dumb as fuck and then a dumb racist if you stick to your support of a shit party.

that too, but the junta's modus operandi still is: we are democrats and anti-Nazis, therefor anyone criticizing us for whatever reason is anti-democratic and Nazi.
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How comes that the comie side of Germany is the based one?
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>>71714599
Because it's also the Prussian side of Germany.
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>>71714327
And here comes the krautchan army.
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>>71714599
Because they know commie propaganda when they see it.
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>>71714327
>>71714381

Heja Ahmed, having fun enriching Heidi und Gretl?
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>>71713642
>All of the Netherlands had been exposed to the same media as Germany, maybe evn more
>the same
>even more
>What is the Holocaust?
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>>71712037

The question is, are East Germans more conservative because they hated the GDR, or because they miss it?
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>>71714198
PVV is still called nazi and literally hitler
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I also distinctly remember pretty much all polls underestimating the performance of the AfD in recent state elections, and overestimating the performance of the merkel coalition.

Because guess what, it's phone polling, people won't take the chance of being branded a nazi.
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Godspeed.
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>>71714583
>>the junta
OMG I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THEM THUS THEY'RE A JUNTA!!!11oneone

Have I mentioned you people are dumb racists?

>>71714599
>>71714639
They did jack shit to process history / 3rd Reich and Nazi topics and basically went from one dictatorship to another without enabling the people to transform into a democracy.

>>71714686
Fuck krautchan.
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>>71714823
this.

The only threat I see now, is that AfD will be expanding too much. Without very good personnel they are not going to make it long term
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>>71714799
They're conservative because they've seen what rampant leftism leads to, and they dislike the west because they got shafted hard in '90.

That would be my guess at least.
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>>71714935
Once people actually see their bullshit party program and not just the focus on their lame single topic party bullshit they'll lose support even in East Germany.
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>>71714799
see >>71714934

They're basically a population of uneducated, non-democratic 'I need a strong guy' people who never came into contact with anyone outside their villages.
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>>71714327
Daily reminder that racist genocidal traitors like this sack of shit need to be hanged as well.
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>>71715010
>>71715075
You need to go back.
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>>71714327
>>71714381
>>71714934
>>71715010
Sure is Achmed in here
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>>71714823

So wait, if someone that conducts a phonepoll calls you, and you tell them that you support AfD, will that get you in trouble?

Will that put you on a list or what?

>>71714799
East Germans are more conservative because they were under soviet occupation, therefore not under the influence of the American "way of life".

You can see the similarity between East Germans and Eastern Europeans (countries that were under soviet occupation or under soviet rule through communism).

Imagine living your entire life in a so called socialist utopia. Then the revolutions start up and you are suddenly reunited with your brother that has been thriving under an ill system that slowly corrupts everything.

Hell, i get why East Germans hate the americanized version of themselves. When they see them, they see the imperfect versions of themselves
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>>71715010
Well they don't have one yet, but im curious how it will be.

I hope it's gonna be anti-welfare, anti-genderism, anti-gun laws and anti-immigration. Would vote even harder for them
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>>71715147
It won't. Otherwise, people would stop responding to them at all.

It's more of a "not taking the risk" thing. Irrational fear, but that's still fear.
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>>71713009
You just had your airport get blown up, Belgium. How are your rightwing parties doing?
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>east germany gets independence
>reestablish itself of republic of sorbia

KRAUTS OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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It's fun how the Liberal anti-fa and anti-racist progressive German label all East Germans as 'uneducated ignorant morons' but then it's other who are 'bigoted and intolerant'.
It truly speaks about the cognitive dissonance of pro-unlimited and uncontrolled immigrationists.
After all, have you ever heard one of them making a serious and coherent argumentation about the supposed benefits of this immigration?
Nope, they can just whine about racism and nazism.
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>>71715378
Like hell they will, they'd be bankrupt by next afternoon.
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>>71715395
>After all, have you ever heard one of them making a serious and coherent argumentation about the supposed benefits of this immigration?
"They will pay for my retirement".

Like hell they will. But some people actually believe that.
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>>71713380
This is true. Im Italian, and i came to Germany because i was offered a work contract here in 2014 (biochemist).

I tried to refuse to fill out the paper about "migration background", because coming to Germany from Italy is not at all comparable to coming from ass Africa or whatever.. But the old crusty hag forced me to fill it out.

This really skews statistics. They can say because i work and earn money in a professional field that "migrants" are highly qualified professionals, which is clearly a lie.
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This is germany
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>>71715529
It's not like most of them have any idea about the candidates to begin with.

They just hear the names at some point.
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>>71714479
Im from Italy, and im counted here as a migrant. I speak German and im white, educated, and i can trace my ancestry 800 years unbroken in europe (Toscana).
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>>71714823
That's because AfD voters distrust the media and have a very high voter turnout. I, for one, am the only voter my age I know.
>>71714479
Most of those 65% are white. Mosr AfD voters are immigrants.
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>>71715529
>believing what the Lügenpresse says
>not being retarded

Pick one.
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>>71712037
The deal will happen inshallah.
I cant wait to rape some white woman
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>>71715281
well, a lot of muslims are dancing in the streets after the attacks and politicians are silenced for mentioning that fact.
The extreme right wing is rising, but much too slow.

On the other hand, the damages and loss of life in the airport bombing is absolutely NOTHING compared to the damages Germany is going through right now... The German population is literally being replaced. It's not even a "conspiracy" anymore. It's a fact of life which the Germans have accepted. They will be bred out of existance.
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>>71715529
Dude of course it is bcs they only hear bad stuff about Trump and only fags still watch tv

I had to explain to my dad why Trump isn't racist for kicking out black protesters
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>>71715075
You're a good argument for eugenics
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>>71712037
Funny, Die Linke is much stronger in eastern germany but the greens are stronger in the west.
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>>71714479
Of the 10 largest foreign resident countries, 8 are european. You probably should've mentioned that.
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>>71715505
Diamine, non c'era lavoro in Toscana per un biochimico?
La situazione sta seriamente diventando 'na merda.
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>>71715715
It's the difference between people who want the economic left, and the social left.

In the east, the Linke is voted by people who remember the GDR and want its economy back, at least it provided them with a job. In the west, the greens are voted by "muh feels" faggots.
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>>71712037
selling out Böhmermann to the Roachking wasn't the best idea she had at this moment
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>>71715210
It's not irrational at all. In Germany the extreme right was and still is seen as a nono option for a majority of the population. Maybe, this might have something to do with historical experience and possibly with the fact that until now rightwing parties had "politicians" that were unbelievably redneck and behaving like idiots.

The AfD has some more intelligent people but their problem is that they are a young party with lots of radical rightwing factions.

They still have to find common ground for the party base and the party leadership. This will probably not work very well, because they have so many ridiculously backwards people to cope with.

I think they will falter under external pressure and internal strife. At least if the German economy does well in the future.

Sadly, the next big financial collapse is looming, so I think they might be able to cover their incompetence by harvesting what this collapse will leave in its wake.
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>>71715677
>I cant wait to rape some white woman
We know
You all do
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>>71715692
Are you implying that that's not the case with Belgium as well? Because I find it a bit odd that you're talking down on Germany.
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>>71714934
>OMG I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THEM THUS THEY'RE A JUNTA!!!11oneone
>Have I mentioned you people are dumb racists?

what? People vs junta, what do you not understand? Also, I never vote.
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>>71715703
when will they learn?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=823_1439380858
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>>71715870
>Also, I never vote.
How about you start fucking doing it?

Not voting is the equivalent of "okay, just carry on, this is fine".
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>>71715843
>until now rightwing parties had "politicians" that were unbelievably redneck
Lol, racist much?
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>>71715792
Not really true, only BW has a sizeable portion of Green voters and that is only because of Krerschmann. This dude doesn't do much wrong, doesn't really criticize anyone and actually deports some immigrants.
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>>71715923
>Not voting is the equivalent of "okay, just carry on, this is fine".
L2logic, commie.

>Logic
>Commie
My bad.
Now gb2kc.
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>>71715613
>Most of those 65% are white. Mosr AfD voters are immigrants.

you apparently never have been to FFM. And yes, Turks vote AfD here, commie Kurds not.
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>>71712037
So, when will that 20% of votes "go missing" during counting?
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>>71715859
Where should I visit first?
Germany is good but my syrian friend tell me Sweden is a lot more...culturally compatible
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>>71714934
>y-you're racists
>on /pol/

Mei Hawara, denk do a bissl mit bevorst deine Fingerl bewegst.
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>>71713112
it IS too late.
The fact that in 2020 young native german men will be a minority is irreversible.
And now add the fact that the birth rates in those non native communities is 4-5times higher.
Enjoy the last 2 german generations.
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>>71715966
Look, you have ONE instrument of directly influencing politics, and you choose not to use it?

Get the fuck out.
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>>71715923
>How about you start fucking doing it?

no, why would I?

>Not voting is the equivalent of "okay, just carry on, this is fine".

not or a logician, parliamentarism as such is root o problems, only democratic votes (referendums) would change something.
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>>71715977
why not a sex-tour through half Europe?
start in Italy, dont forget UK and France and finish in Sweden
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>>71715843
Berno, pls stop trolling. /pol/acks all hate muslims, even if they have different views on economy.
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>>71715977
Go to some big city in North-Rhine Westfalia. Most of your family is already here and a kebab shop every 100 metres, you will feel right at home.
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>>71715593
they probably dont know any more about their own politicians if they just eat up what the media is yelling at them
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>>71716064
>no, why would I?
Because so long as you don't make your voice heared at all, it will be completely ignored.

Not voting means leaving the vote to those who pick Merkel.
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>>71715843
Who cares about the economy nigger?
WTF is wrong with you mate, did Mutti brainwash you too?
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Yes, that's what i'm implying. Somehow i should not have this opinion because the same problems are occuring in my own country? You want to silence people for that?
Are you a 16 year-old liberal or something?
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>>71716122
>Because so long as you don't make your voice heared at all, it will be completely ignored.

yeah sure, ticking boxes on a scrap of paper is my voice. I didn't say you shouldn't do it anyway.

>Not voting means leaving the vote to those who pick Merkel.

no, not voting means they can lick my ass.
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>>71716028
>The fact that in 2020 young native german men will be a minority is irreversible.

Most guns hold more than 1 bullet nowadays. That argument makes no sense outside of defeatist shilling.
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>>71715935
>>71716084

`You seem offendend. Do you not want to adress my arguments or are not able to?
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>>71716235
>>71715868
woops. forgot the reference.
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>>71716028
You didn't think this through. The people who came here in 2015/16 were 80% men and men can't really breed without a counterpart and I don't think a German woman would want to bear their children.
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>>71716277
>no, not voting means they can lick my ass.
That may be the message you're trying to convey. But it's not the message you arrived. The message that arrives is "Was too lazy to get to the polling station, hence is clearly fine enough with the situation."
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>>71716291
You're a big guy but not for me :^}
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>>71716095
No thanks...I would like to stay away from them.>>71716080
Good idea.Btw how do I get to Poland.They are very welcoming right?
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>>71716277
> not voting AFD just to see every politician and all media panic

they can't do shit anyway - see swedens SD
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>>71716362
>That may be the message you're trying to convey. But it's not the message you arrived. The message that arrives is "Was too lazy to get to the polling station, hence is clearly fine enough with the situation."

not really since voting doesn't change anything. Once again I never tried to convince you not to go vote.
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>>71716283
The only guns I`ve ever saw were the ones in police holsters. Guess where the state will point these when the ebil raycis natives start attacking their precious migrant project?
The only weapons in Europe belong to the global corporations and they don`t give two shits about natives.
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>>71716477
>not really since voting doesn't change anything.
If you ever wonder why, it's because people like you stay at home, and your opponents don't.
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>>71716324
That's sort of true though some bitches get brainwashed into having 5 kids and wearing hijab.

Also some niggers drink themself to death or stab each other.
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>>71716528
>The only guns I`ve ever saw were the ones in police holsters.
You, maybe. I've seen more than just those.
>Guess where the state will point these when the ebil raycis natives start attacking their precious migrant project?
Nowhere. A police force isn't enough to rule a nation. Especially not one that's plenty busy just trying to contain said migrant project.
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>>71716430
>they can't do shit anyway - see swedens SD

I am well aware, that's why I don't understand that enthusiasm about voting. Either they will follow the official junta line, or they will be crushed.
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>>71716235
>>71716297
When your opinion is demeaning a country that does better than yours then your opinion is hypocritical and that should be pointed out.

>>71716528
>The only guns I`ve ever saw were the ones in police holsters.
>30 per capita private gun ownership in Germany
>conflates Germany with Europe as if Europe is a single entity

You're some city cuck, aren't you?
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>>71712037
The west is already lost, East Germany is our only hope now. Saxony has by far the highest birth rates and one of the lowest muslim rates. Best education too.
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>>71716324
and most fo the are young men. Germans get outbred for a long time now. Just add the newly arrived number.
And besides that many of them will get their family send to germany while another huge number will simply reproduce with native women since their sexual drive is much higher.
Whilst german men have many things concerning them migrants have only two. ficki ficki and money money.

Maybe something will change but it will never be drastic enough to stop the outbreeding.
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>>71716324
>would want to
>implying consent
hahahahaha
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>>71716529
>If you ever wonder why, it's because people like you stay at home, and your opponents don't.

once again, voting actually does not change anything. What is so difficult to understand there?
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>>71716682
>a country that does better than yours
HOW? In what way would Germany be doing better in this rapefugee crisis. I look forward to your explanation.
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Frauke Reich when?
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>>71715075
>>71714934
can we all report this fag
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>>71716831
>once again, voting actually does not change anything.
When the greens entered the landscape, voting did change a whole fucking lot. It brought the whole environmentalism bullshit into mainstream and made all other parties adopt it.

You're a defeatist, that is all. And you're following a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It's minimum effort every couple years and you still can't be assed to do at least that much.
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>>71716842
>HOW?
Well, for one they didn't get their airport blown up.
Then there's also the fact that your demographics are worse.
And since you didn't answer my question how your rightwing parties are doing (with numbers, so that we could compare properly), my guess would be that there's not even a resistance to your situation.
You're also the epicenter of the cancer that is the EU.

Really, you could've figured this out on your own.
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>>71716415
True. I keep forgetting you turks send your filth to germany because even you don't want them in your own country. If only we had """"allies"""" stupid enough to take our human garbage.
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>>71716528
>The only guns I`ve ever saw were the ones in police holsters.
Then get your ass to a shooting range. Go fire a gun if you are there, it's fun.
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>>71716925
>When the greens entered the landscape, voting did change a whole fucking lot. It brought the whole environmentalism bullshit into mainstream and made all other parties adopt it.

they now get fundings from the defense industry, and campaign for a military containment of Russia. Not that any of those dreadlock guys ever would join the army...
https://www.neues-deutschland.de/artikel/957304.gruene-wegen-spenden-der-ruestungsindustrie-in-erklaerungsnot.html

>You're a defeatist, that is all. And you're following a self-fulfilling prophecy.

care to elaborate? I did not promote any prophecy.

>It's minimum effort every couple years and you still can't be assed to do at least that much.

I do it on purpose, not because I am too lazy.
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>>71717126
So you're responsible for people like KGE sitting in the Bundestag.
>hurr durr elections change nothing
with every few hundred votes for AfD a socialist will lose his seat. It's better than nothing, protesting in the streets is more effective though.
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>>71716682
Yes I live in a city and I`ve seen what the police force does to the native concerned population. When they dare to protest in the streets they get their heads bashed in.
For me Germany represents the whole fucked up EU. We push the agendas while west europe just nods. The east is angry but too much in need of the west european money. Countries like austria can vote for anti european politicians as much as they want at the end they will follow the german lead.
I don`t even wanna argue with you if you believe in the upcoming racewar the natives win good for you. I hope we will but I just doubt it will happen. There isn`t enough man power and enough weapons to fight the whole west european military complex
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>>71717272
> upcoming race war

Can you explain? That is tossed around often.
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>>71717272
>Yes I live in a city
Everytime.
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>>71715792
Thing is though, the SED was far more conservative socially than some of the modern parties. Would Ulbricht or Honecker let in a million migrants? Nope.
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>>71717261
>So you're responsible for people like KGE sitting in the Bundestag.

no, those having voted for her are responsible.

>with every few hundred votes for AfD a socialist will lose his seat. It's better than nothing, protesting in the streets is more effective though.

look, I live in a very small community. The farmers vote CDU, their daughters and sons are lawyers and architects and vote green. One time there was a vote for Die Linke and they were going through the list in search who could have been that. They suspected a certain leftist professor (my uncle), but it turned out it was the 18 y o foster son of someone. I never was under suspicion, and one AfD vote would change 0.
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>>71717573
In other words, you don't know how the election system works.
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>>71717563
>Thing is though, the SED was far more conservative socially than some of the modern parties. Would Ulbricht or Honecker let in a million migrants? Nope.

their Stasi however massively promoted multiculturalism for the West, well knowing heterogenous populations are unstable and make democratic cohesion impossible.
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>>71717707
>In other words, you don't know how the election system works.

I know 2 things: a) voting AfD changes nothing b) I would get on the list if I did.
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>>71717714
So basically Merkel was a sleeper agent, only forgot the state she worked for no longer exists.
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>>71717820
>So basically Merkel was a sleeper agent, only forgot the state she worked for no longer exists.

she ironically has been called Honecker's revenge indeed. But then the problems stem from the German bourgeois and intellectual class, the CDU was promoting multiculture before her being party member http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-13499571.html
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>>71717067
>Airport blown up
How does that even compare to the massive daily rapes in Germany? How does that compare to the fact that the majority of Germans are pro-refugees? I rather have a few terrorist attacks with tens of deaths than having my race bred out of existance in 2 generations, to be honest.
>how your rightwing parties are doing
Our right wing parties currently have 46% of the votes, with 16% of that being for an extreme right wing party. You could have just looked it up if you didn't believe my point.
>your demographics are worse
>2% of total population immigrated in a single year
Okay. Two years ago you would have had a very valid point though.
>>71717067
>epicenter of the cancer that is the EU
So a WHOLE COUNTRY is the "epicenter" of something bad? So that whole country must therefor be horrible, right? The EU happens to have a few buildings set up in Brussels, because it's convenient as fuck. It's the perfect location for them. So now Belgium by itself is somehow responsible for this monster? Fun fact: Germany is actually THE big voice in the EU pulling on the left side of the rope. Belgium is the tinyest player in this whole story.

Also, go read a book on philosophy. Hypocracy is not a harmful property for one to have unless that person is not realising the same thing applies to him. I'm giving you a rational explanation as to why Belgium is currently way better off than Germany in terms of the rapefugee crisis. Our borders are practically closed right now. Meanwhile, the MAJORITY of German people shant to get more of them. Literally. I'm not denying the rapefugee crisis is not damaging us. But i am making a point that Germany is currently KEKED beyond repair and that the rise of the right wing is pretty pathetic, considering the massive social problems Germany is currently facing.

Have fun denying all of this. Enjoy your natsoc fantasy world you live in. Reality is different.
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>>71712037
Isn't East Germany like 80% male or something?
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>>71714327
>their single topic issue
I see you don't know what you're talking about. Your aggressiveness doesn't help your argument, either.
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>>71717476
glad you read my full post and not just the first words.
typical schluchtenscheißer.

>>71717468
The welfare state will run dry at one point. When this happens the sharia no go migrant ghettos will rise up and start looting and blaming the natives for everything. They gonna attack them. They`d rather fight them than integrate. They already hate western society and this hate is boiling.
I actually meant a civil war but at least one side won`t be diverse it will be mainly providers(mostly natives) against takers (mostly migrants, probably only migrants since germans won`t be accepted in their force).
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>>71715150
Of course they do and it's reactionary garbage that would have flown a hundred or two years ago but won't fly today.

>>71715613
Most AfD voters are also fucking old and retarded.

>>71715843
Höcke's not an idiot? Petry's not an idiot? Fucking Gauweiler's not an idiot? What have you been smoking?
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>>71718549
The cucking is strong in this one!
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>>71717762
>a) voting AfD changes nothing
See: Not knowing how the election system works
>b) I would get on the list if I did.
If your region violates the secrecy of the vote, that's a whole different problem, and would probably invalidate the whole election in the area.

If it's just cuckservatives and greens, that would be a good thing.
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>>71718130
>I rather have a few terrorist attacks with tens of deaths than having my race bred out of existance in 2 generations, to be honest.
The problem is, you get both.
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>>71718317
Oh I'm sorry, I must have missed their important topics apart from

>>Euro currency brain farts
>>now refugee brain farts

They have a program, they just don't go showing it off because they probably know themselves it's garbage. They're a populist party with a single issue they're against, thus they have non-solutions.

Now that the refugee problem's not much of a topic in the media, they're trying some weird anti-Islam shit they'll fail with.
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>>71718543
>The welfare state will run dry at one point.

What makes you so sure about that? They will simply balloon the debts in order to keep paying welfare.

>When this happens the sharia no go migrant ghettos will rise up and start looting and blaming the natives for everything.

and will be quelled by the junta militias.

>They gonna attack them. They`d rather fight them than integrate. They already hate western society and this hate is boiling.

yes, and that's a good thing, ironically the leftist establishment still see them as allies in their fight against the reactionary Western imperialism.

>I actually meant a civil war but at least one side won`t be diverse it will be mainly providers(mostly natives) against takers (mostly migrants, probably only migrants since germans won`t be accepted in their force).

a wet dream, I am not so confident about Germcucks rising up against feudalism, it rather will be the Muslims.
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>>71718868
>See: Not knowing how the election system works

I do know, what has changed, since AfD got votes here? A SPD-Green-FDP coalition. At no point the AfD voters have been respected as democratic participants, they are bashed and defamed on a daily basis.

>If your region violates the secrecy of the vote, that's a whole different problem, and would probably invalidate the whole election in the area.

The elections are invalid anyway, as misinormation, defamation and coercion have been exercised against those wanting ru run a AfD info booth.

>If it's just cuckservatives and greens, that would be a good thing.

which always can count on their officials in courts
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>>71719002
This guy is a fucking shill, i swear to god he repeats the typical media bullshit here in Germany
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>>71716291
What arguments?
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>>71714799

They fear the socio-economic effects of globalism. Although the GDR was insane with all the Stasi shit going on, at least it protected them from the globalism running rampant outside its borders.

Now with the migrant crisis going on they want to bring back the protectionist and isolationist days of the GDR but without the communist shit.
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>>71719424
Aw, poor you, not being tough enough to be an open racist in a world where you're being considered what you are: a piece of shit.
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>>71720173
>Aw, poor you, not being tough enough to be an open racist in a world where you're being considered what you are: a piece of shit.

lol, I get along with Turks way better than you Merkel loving pieces of FRG excrements.
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>>71720377
Aaw, you get a long with Turks. How many know you're a dumb racist and agree with you?
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>>71717573
>AfD vote would change 0
it would change +1. the AfD could already be in the Bundestag if a few more hundred people voted instead of sitting at home and complaining about how jews run the world. that means they could have dragged Merkel to the Verfassungsgericht last summer.
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>>71720547
>Aaw, you get a long with Turks. How many know you're a dumb racist and agree with you?

all of them. I am the only one from the campus they cross the street to shake hands with. They exploit you FRG scum for their beneits, but they don't love you.
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>>71719553
So you can't. Thank you, I already thought so.
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Heh, didn't they say that Islam is not compatible with our society just the other day?
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>>71720604
no its rather that said court would ban the AfD, or at least render void any of their decisions and proposals in parliament.
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>>71714799
they are just less degenerate. they know the connection between work and wealth, people in the west don't, they're rich because their parents are rich and failing at life (studying drama and failing after 6 years) has absolutely no repercussions because daddy can pay their bills anyway. They actually believe we are rich enough to feed the entire world.
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>>71720624
How's your wife's son, Friedrich?
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>>71718549
They are not idiots by the standard of former "toplevel" rightwing politicians.

Petry is actually quite clever but has no real political experience (or policy). Höcke was demoted and can play in his Eastern German sandpit. Gauweiler is an idiot. I give you that.
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>>71720697
yeah like they banned the AfD the last three times Die Linke tried to get them banned, oh wait. Meanwhile several former constitutional judges guaranteed that a lawsuit against Merkel would be successful.
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>>71712037
>AfD 20%
So it's nothing. Great.
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>>71720624
Aw look, Turks can be racist, too! What a surprise you'd get along with other racist retards.
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>CHRISTIAN democrats
>Not following his holiness, holy Deus Vult the First, and allow mudslim rapists to take over your country.

Kek
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>>71720910
did you go to school in Bremen, Sören?
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>>71720783
>How's your wife's son, Friedrich?

funny question. The point is I certainly won't lift one single finger to defend the current regime, it is not the Turks that are to be blamed for the fact Germans (i.e. Western men) are total cucks, Turks keep themselves fit, they train, they spit on the junta militias and they say those who are too weak to defend themselves have it coming. And by the way the Turks hate the crazy durka durka and openly say it, it is 99% of German women in my uni supporting mass immgration, and 60% about of German (white) men. Neither the Turk's fault...
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>>71712220
What if she planed it all along?
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>>71718549
>Most AfD voters are also fucking old and retarded.

>most of them are workers or unemployed
>most of them are male
>most of them are around 30 years
>most of them vote for them because all other parties have disappoint them over the years

>http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/afd-waehler-jung-maennlich-und-enttaeuscht-14123702.html#/elections

>the sources is even the fucking faz.

its the exact opposite you colossal faggot
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>>71720803
>yeah like they banned the AfD the last three times Die Linke tried to get them banned, oh wait. Meanwhile several former constitutional judges guaranteed that a lawsuit against Merkel would be successful.

the banning comes in case AfD could be a real challenge to the ruling caste. Also I said it will be rather their policies which will be sabotaged, everything they propose is against some arbitrary human rights or EU law. They will be grinded down in the mills of the system.

> Meanwhile several former constitutional judges guaranteed that a lawsuit against Merkel would be successful.

funny idea, I just don't give a fuck what these 3rd league Roland Freislers say. I believe it when I see it.
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>>71720910
>Aw look, Turks can be racist, too! What a surprise you'd get along with other racist retards.

I have day off so enough time for you posters with special needs. Quote me where I said anything about race - and it is you hiding behind your computer, just come out and call a Turk a retard on the street.
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>>71715890
Bury them in the same hole
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>>71721180
retard
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>>71721458
>retard

now that that argument killed me
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>>71712220
nah bro I think the midleground is possible they will integrate and wash out our culture even more.
it is like a slow erosion nobody really notices it unless they look close, but it is still there
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>>71721101
The thing about Merkel that people don't seem to understand is that she just does whatever is popular in order to stay in power. She is merely a reflection of the public, which is why the whole "remove Merkel" shit is nonsense because her replacement would probably be even more insane (the two biggest parties after hers are quite literally marxist caricatures like /pol/ wouldn't dream).

Merkel WILL become the next Hitler if the German people wake up. She doesn't give two fucks about flip-flopping. Hell, the whole "mutti merkel" image was probably kicked off by her telling some brown girl she can't come into the country, to which the girl started crying on national television which made the libcucks criticize her. Just so you understand. I'm not sure the German people can still wake up in time, however. There's a lot of disdain for refugees brewing in some groups of people, but there's also diehard leftist where there's nothing left to redpill because they truly believe that whites should die.

AfD rising is nice and all but remember that east Germany is very right-wing in the first place.
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>>71721649
> Merkel will become Hitler

That is the single most retarded thing I have read in a long time. Bravo.
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>>71721843
>13 yeras ago

well seems the reptilians replaced the real merkel somewhere down the line.
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>>71719424
What if a bunch of other people in your town are secretly saying the same things to themselves?

Someone has to grow a spine. Otherwise, wait until they send 5,000 refugees to your quaint little town. I hope that when that happens, the shit begins to hit the fan, and people begin to wake up, at last then you will deign to finally vote.
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>>71712037
>AfD
it's like germans want to turn Germany into a second Hungary
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>>71720624
They are laughing at you. You just don't know it yet.
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>>71721973
>What if a bunch of other people in your town are secretly saying the same things to themselves?

well?

>Someone has to grow a spine. Otherwise, wait until they send 5,000 refugees to your quaint little town. I hope that when that happens, the shit begins to hit the fan, and people begin to wake up, at last then you will deign to finally vote.

I live in a gated community so to speak, but those in the the centre have their schools and gym occupied since those are crammed with wogs. Also the military depot in the nearby forest. The only thing that has changed for me is hearing the columns of police cars driving there in the middle of the night then there's yet another enrichment going on.
And no, there is no connection between "waking up" and voting, if voting would change anything they wouldn't let us do it. It is dupery. (you should vote for Trump though)
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>>71715529
Is this a poll of "Who has perpetuated Middle East instability?"
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>>71722052
>They are laughing at you. You just don't know it yet.

why? I told them if they start the big fuckfest they should start with the German university leftists, they totally loathe weaklings and have no respect for those not defending themselves.
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>>71720798
They're idiots by common sense and decency.
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>>71722372
@ German AfD fans:

Kein Landtags-Vizepräsident für AfD

Stuttgart (dpa/lsw) – Die Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) bekommt endgültig keinen Stellvertreterposten des künftigen Landtagspräsidenten. Das sei die Folge einer Vereinbarung, auf die sich die anderen vier Fraktionen verständigt hätten, bestätigte ein Sprecher der Grünen-Fraktion einen Bericht der «Stuttgarter Zeitung» (Freitag). Danach wird das Präsidium verschlankt; es soll im nächsten Parlament nur noch einen statt zwei Stellvertreter des Präsidenten geben. Während die CDU dem Bericht zufolge eher den Spareffekt in den Vordergrund stellen möchte, geht es etwa den Grünen eher darum, die AfD nicht aufzuwerten.

http://www.welt.de/regionales/baden-wuerttemberg/article154626643/Kein-Landtags-Vizepraesident-fuer-AfD.html

hahaha
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>>71721843
Immigrants =/= refugees but whatever
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>>71722372
Well, I agree with that. With Petry I am actually not sure what she wants and believes.

I don't like AfD, I just don't want to make the mistake of underestimating them.
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>>71714934

this guy:

>loves that his women get raped
>loves that his culture degenrates
>has no problem in having interracial children
>wants that the EU becomes a single country with English as a mandatory 1st language
>thinks that western countries should take a shit load of africans and arabs because "muhh so rich"
>is tolerant towards the RELIGION OF PEACE because NOT EVERY Muslim is bad
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>>71715529

n24 poll which collects the votes of tv watchers (unemployed people) at 10 am
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>>71723116
>>nah
>>nah
>>why would I
>>nah, but mandatory <<commong language> is a good thing
>>nah
>>nah

But whatever
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>>71722733

just amplifies the opinion that the mainstream is biased against the AFD and by this more supporters will come to them.
Has been the case since they were founded.
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>>71723284
>just amplifies the opinion that the mainstream is biased against the AFD and by this more supporters will come to them.
>Has been the case since they were founded.

this is yet to be seen.
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>>71723116
He is clearly cucked by the media or maybe he is the media trying to fuck with us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hueHtOM5dTY
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>>71714686
krautchan is pretty right-wing tho, not like this shill
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