>totally not an addiction
Why do potheads lie to themselves?
>>71707511
It's not guaranteed to be addictive though. Some people can handle their shit. Others become slaves to the green, or the bottle, or the whatever.
>>71707511
Someone post that pot smoker vs enlightened gamer picture.
>>71707511
It's not addictive, but it becomes a dumb habit.
>>71707566
That doesn't dispute the fact that people get addicted and totally deny that it's even possible.
>>71707623
you can get addicted to anything that feels good.
Video Games, masturbation, ect ect.
But it's different than getting addicted to cigarettes.
>>71707623
Yeah, people get addicted to all kinds of things and pretend that they're still in control.
We're apes with nuclear sticks and delusions of grandeur.
>>71707775
keep touting that
>>71707511
It's as addictive as chocolate. Physically. If some stoner is mentally a weak person, that doesn't make smoking weed an addiction, it just makes that person a weak person.
>>71707566
That's the case with literally every addictive substance
>>71707511
> tfw addicted to weed
Feels bad man.
>>71707511
Pot gives me such a lame/shitty high.. It also tastes and smells like utter shit. I'd much rather drink a few craft beers.
>>71707511
Not all of us do
it's not a real addiction that will give you withdrawals, and the only "withdrawals" these losers get is not knowing what to do with themselves or how to cope with stress without their fucking drugs.
>>71707964
>DABs
Wow, what a coincidence. You can't even escape the weed on 4chins.
>>71707511
Its mentally addictive, just like all pleasurable activities.
The whole meme is "pot isn't physically addictive".
>dang I just want something caffienated
>dang I just want a candy bar
>dang I just want a beer
>dang I just want a cigarette
pot_calling_the_kettle_black.jpg
>>71707964
>DAB
>sJW
>>71707511
I am a pothead. I've come to terms with the fact that I am addicted. I'm lazier because of it; and it is certainly having a negative impact on my memory. I'm all for legalization, and its benefits on man and industry. But there is a sector of population who cannot function regularly. I seem to be in that minority
>smoking the psychedlic jew
>>71708214
>psychedlic
>>71708179
candy bar and caffeine are false equivalence
>>71707611
>pot smoker vs enlightened gamer
Combine the two and you have the most annoying piece of shit on the planet. So fucking irritating playing with stoners.
I smoke devil's lettuce once a week, somethimes twice, however I always do it in the evenings after I get home from work, help my grandparents with their daily errands, finish a nice workout in the gym etc.
I see no harm in that desu but I undestand how dangerous devil's lettuce can be for unemployed and desperate NEETs
>>71708190
>>71708050
What's this DAB bullshit?
>>71708201
>its benefits on man
Such as? Or can you not remember?
>>71708285
>>71708301
THC concentrate
>>71708291
I will always find it hilarious when they rip over the mic but otherwise it can be tedious.
>>71708301
I had to look it up too.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dabbing
>>71708307
Are you seriously gonna sit there and pretend you haven't read articles or heard people speak of the medicinal uses of marijuana?
Or are you the type of person that denies it's true at all?
>>71707511
>Have a junkie "friend", who has owed me 500 dollars for over a year now and never has it on hand. But always has a marijuana weed smoke hanging from his lips.
My own fault for being nice I suppose.
>>71708285
sugar is highly addictive and has been a massive catalyst in ruining the health of western civilization
it's no better than nicotine and should be regulated as such
Look, there are people who get addicted to FOOD.
Let that sink in for a minute.
>>71707511
its very easy to kick the weed habit if you live a productive lifestyle alot easier than quitting cigs
>>71708380
It's all bullshit. I'm all for legalization though. To be quite frank, Mary Jane does jack shit for chronic pain.
>>71708301
It's when the sweet, divine essence of the bud gets extracted. It has a more waxy form and is "smoked" differently. Sends you directly to space.
10/10 would recommend fampai
>>71707885
He's talking about the difference between physical and mental withdrawal. I'm addicted to weed instead of all the pills I was prescribed by a psychiatrist. I'm also a fuckup/degenerate whose not in denial. How many alcoholics admit they are?
>>71708380
>>71708307
this. at this point it's pretty well researched and doctors are actually required to learn about the medical uses as a part of their continuing education.
or would you rather be a cuck to big pharma?
>>71707511
Is it the massive nigger influence that made Yanks accept these degenerates? Just wtf, I'll never understand.
>>71708201
>I'm lazier because of it; and it is certainly having a negative impact on my memory. I'm all for legalization, and its benefits on man and industry.
>Weed sure fucked me up! But I'm apparently an exceptional case, so legalizing weed is still what I seek from my government!
>>71707566
I think its more to do with the person than the substance. Some people feel they need an addiction in their lives
>>71708586
>Summarising his argument instead of attacking it
I'm on your side too
>>71708307
>>71708586
Live and let live
I gave up smoking weed after smoking it everyday for like 2-3 years. I had about 2 days of feeling not so good.
I also went through withdrawal from oxycontin and that was fucking INSANE.
You know if you smoke it everyday of course you will have some minor discomfort when you discontinue use but it's pretty much fucking nothing and if you have been using it for pain relief then its going to be a million times better than going through opiate withdrawal.
If you drink as much as you smoke you will have life threatning withdrawals. So all things considered weed is fucking NOTHING and we really don't need another thread about it. Fuck off.
Hahaha disgusting smokers
Thank god im only addicted to beer hahaha
>>71708352
>>71708370
>>71708494
Ah yeah I've heard of that shit, it's not that big in Australia really. Might give it a shot one time but I think enjoy the practice of smoking old school.
>>71707964
At least it's not beznos and opiates, senpai.
>>71707885
Why are you saying that?
Cigarettes are addictive because of nicotine which is addictive. I don't think there are any addictive substance in weed, although you can get addicted. But it will be the same addiction as sex addiction, video games addiction or whatever you want.
>>71708719
Dabs are like smoking for the first time every time.
>>71708719
It's good shit man, you'll like it.
Smoked for awhile
Quit. It sucked, but I quit.
Dipped for awhile.
Quit. Quitting sucked more than smoking.
Alcohol has never been a problem. I have no problem going out and getting hammered, or enjoying a couple beers. Literally could not make myself get drunk more than once a week, even as a college freshman.
Caffeine though. Damn, never should have started drinking fucking coffee. If I don't have any in the morning, by ~1pm get hit with a bitching headache. But by 1pm is also when the shakes (minor, but noticeable) and sweaty palms hit me from drinking morning coffee otherwise. It's a very subtle addiction, especially since it's such a common everyday activity and ritual, that smells and tastes good (I did not "enjoy" the act of smoking and chewing more than the effects--- with coffee, I enjoy the actual drinking of the coffee ya know?) but it is one that doesn't fucking let go easy.
I make my own though, so it doesn't cost much. Also have switched over to coldbrew. I'm hooked, anons should give it a try. Very nice, pleasant flavor, no chance of burning your beans (or someone else) other than burning them while grinding. Also, isn't too fucking hot to drink so you can enjoy it as you please, not let it get lukewarm like I'd always do with hot coffee.
I fill a 32oz French press w/ about 8tbsp of course ground beans, rest water. Stir, sit for ~12 hours (home from work about 6, make it when I get home, ready to go at 7 next morning) I then filter it into a clear pint glass, drink half, filter rest into pint glass dump that in my 20oz yeti mug g2g for the day
It's a lot of caffeine though so you may get some shakes and sweaty palms for a bit. Or just use less coffee...
>>71709412
*or someone else burning your beans
>>71708179
caffeine is addictive but doesn't cause euphoria
>>totally not an addiction
why do 4chan users lie to themselves?
It's a tool, nothing more, nothing less.
>>71708214
>jews wanting you to use psychedlics
>>71709412
So you let it "brew" with the grounds for 12 hours? I prefer dumping into a Thermos after 5 minutes of sitting. Only cuz I read a coffee expert blog that claims it's the right thing to do. Guess I might try your way.
>>71707612
No, it's addictive.
>>71708291
>playing league of legends
>some faggot with something weed related in his name
>put him in the dumpster
>as we take their nexus flash my mastery emote and say weed is an addictive degenerate substance that funds terrorists
>guranteed reports
>>71707511
Weed can be a psychological addiction but not physically. Easier to quit than cigs or booze.
>>71709744
Most definitely not addictive, anyone wo disagrees is either weak willed or does not have any idea what their talking about. I smoked pot almost everyday for a year then quit and had absolutely no withdrawal effects or desire to go back
>>71707511
You know your currency is green right? I think she meant she is broke
>>71708861
>>71709263
I've smoked dabs a few times. The first two times were through a pen of some sort that didn't really work but once I used an actual rig it was pretty good. Not first timer high but decently blazed. I do have a really high tolerance from extensive use though so that could be why I'm not so impressed.
>>71709744
There's no proof of it being addictive.
>>71707511
This. I had a roomate I eventually had to toss out because he would flip out and punch holes in the sheetrock every time he ran out of weed. He was also constantly late on his part of the rent, even having the nerve to smoke a bowl in front of me after making up excuses like "oh, uh, my car broke down and I needed parts and stuff..."
totally not an addict bruh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRqB4DcZClM
>>71708565
Nigger culture combined with all the boomers that did everything in the 60s then decided it was okay for their kids to fuckup, too.
>>71708719
Honestly it's a pain in the ass. And I bet oil is crazy expensive like everything else in your country. You'll also need the apparatus to smoke it. And the torch.
>>71709717
Yeah, cold tap water on grounds in French press for 12 hours. Also, about the 8tbsp measurement... Tbh my reference is filling up the 32oz press to where the black line is on the plastic housing. Maybe 3/4"
Anyways
Yeah, after 12 hours, plunge, then I filter it w/ ~3 coffee filters. Takes awhile since it's just gravity, not being forced through but whatever. Also, I suck at getting grind just right so it gets the too fine bits as well.
All started for me when I tried one of those stump town cold brew bottles. I have always had my coffee black, no cream sugar etc. had one of those and was like no way this just black coffee.. Well it is. Spent some time looking through different methods. This one seems to get similar results to Stumptown and I am satisfied.
>>71708402
Never fucking lend money to anyone unless you just want to give them a handout.
Rule of thumb is to never expect money back that you "lent. "
>>71709954
Pens are notoriously inconsistent. Same with different types of oil/shatter. It was never like the first time for me, but I'd say I've gotten higher than first time. Just used to it now. But I've been smoking for 23 years.
>>71710246
Nice. Thanks for the tips. I bought a digital food scale and weigh 53 grams of beans to 32 oz French press. Fill half with water. Stir for 30 seconds, rest for 30. Then pour the rest. Sit for 4 min. It's called "letting your coffee bloom". I just like the process.
>>71710249
This desu
Don't lend money because you expect it back. Lend money because you want to help someone
>inb4 teach someone to fish
Giving someone a bump of cash for something who you know and trust who maybe had some shit happen won't hurt anyone
But for people who are always shit with money don't bother
>>71710401
Are you using course ground or like espresso ground? 4 min with my grounds I make a few times a week from whole beans and the water would barely be taking not even a brown tint to it
By 12 hours it's a beautiful golden brown color like you "expect" coffee to look
>>71710520
I use a grinder for each batch. Course to medium grind, but I eyeball it. It needs to be a little chunky, but not too much. I buy expensive local roast and it comes out pretty black. Especially with the rigorous 30 second stir.
>>71707612
>>71709744
>>71709874
>>71709965
It's NOT addictive but if you smoke it regularly as a joint rolled with tobacco then you may become addicted to the tobacco and conflate your addiction with tobacco to also include 420.
>>71708437
Sugar is literally poison
>>71709978
>even having the nerve to smoke a bowl in front of me after making up excuses like "oh, uh, my car broke down and I needed parts and stuff..."
You sound like a massive downer mate
>>71707964
>DAB
>sjw
>>71707511
Physical addiction with weed is a thing, albeit mild, and you have to smoke it heavily. I used to smoke top quality medical grade every day for about a year, but I'm taking a break. Two weeks in, and the symptoms are finally gone, but I went through hell with anxiety and sweating. Also, weed dampens the dreaming mechanism, so after a few days of quitting dreams hit you like a train when they come back. Lots of nightmares.
>>71708782
This. You guys don't know jack shit about addiction and withdrawal symptoms until you try to come off benzos. Literal hell.
Daily reminder that if you are a weak minded faggot you can get addicted to a soda drink.
>>71707964
The fucking id
>>71707511
I've smoked for what years on a regular basis and I just quit a month ago. Nice bait faggot. Are you Muslim or some shit? Grow up.
>>71711659
I've smoked for 2 years*
>>71711425
I don't suck dicks for a can of Pepsi
there is no such thing as weed withdrawal. Dont let plebs fool you. You dont know what withdrawal is unless youve done heroin, also benzos but not as bad at all
>>71711875
There are withdrawals, they're just bitch nothing compared to chemical drugs. At the most you wont be able to sleep or eat properly for a few days and you get better with each day. Don't get me wrong, they suck. I've smoked 10 plus years of mixing/spinning it with cigarettes.
But if you can't beat weed withdraw you don't have the right to call yourself a man.
>>71712375
Alcohol is harder to beat then weed, and chemical drug withdrawals can fucking kill you. Weed compared to all that is meh, sandbox childs play.
![CgoPJaYUoAA_Sbp[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4yHMJlp.jpg "CgoPJaYUoAA_Sbp[1].jpg")
>>71708301
justniggathings
>>71710855
No it is addictive.
>crave it
>mental withdrawals
>some physical withdrawals
So its a fucking addiction
Marijuana can be addictive.
People cannot form a chemical dependence on marijuana.
/thread
>>71707865
>delusions of grandeur
we are objectively the most grand life that we know of
>>71707511
They are f a g g o t k i k e s.
>>71707623
People get addicted to cheeseburgers silly bitch.
>>71707511
My best comparison is withdrawals from weed Compared to withdrawals from opiates,heroin,benzos, adderall. My point simplify is one withdrawal is hell the othe other ,weed is nothing. Grow a set. Mind over matter.
>>71711198
This. Not to be played with totally sucks. Congrats on survivors, hard road to walk, or crawl.
>>71713036
You fucking arse monkey, there are NO clinical trials saying it is addictive BUT tobacco certainly is and if you mix maryjane with tobacco and partake regularly, you will develop addictive traits consistent with what happens to tobacco addicts.
Weed creates psychological addiction, you can't deny that. If you are too weak to handle that, you should kill yourself anyway.
>>71707511
I don't get why people like pot.
A moderate amount really doesn't make me feel much different. But if I smoke a bit more, I end up regretting it.
>>71715105
Well that is your case, for most people smoking it brings enjoyment. It's a mild psychedelic so the effect will vary from person to person greatly.
I personally enjoy it in very serious moderation (once a month maybe less), and mostly for the music enhancing and food experience, also the creative spark it gives me when combined with said music.
>>71707885
>heh, maybe one day you'll be as supreme as me
Just keep drinking your own cum and don't stop calling it champagne.
>>71708285
Top opinion mate! Bet you thought long and hard about that one! Rippah
>>71715612
You fuckers really have the best banter, damn
>>71711857
3 days in Sahara desert and you would trust me.
Mary J has no addictive substances unless you smoke shitloads of it often with tobacco. Then you can get tobacco addiction, typical cigg muncher.
>>71707511
lol, if you smoke 10 times a day everyday for years yeah you're not gonna feel right if you quit.
you're not going to fucking die though.
you might not sleep or be able to eat alot for a while thats it
>>71716129
This
I smoked about 10-20 bongs a day for 2-3 years. Prioritizing buying weed before food, which usually left me with little to no food. The addiction is just mental, but the effects of addiction are real.
>>71710986
The point is he'd probably have rent money if he didn't buy a bag of weed. Either way I kicked his nigger ass out.
>>71716363
>bongs
Bullshit, nigger
>>71715105
If a moderate amount doesn't make you feel much different, you aren't doing it right
Fucking weed faggots man. I used to rat on every fucking person I saw or heard had weed. Everyone of my friends, and acquaintances was under my weed watch. If you had weed then the teacher or their parents would know. I can't even begin to recall the countless tears and assblasting I caused for ratting on everybody with drugs. I almost got my ass beat by some niggers for telling but they got fucking dogs called on them to sniff em out. Good shit. You deserve getting molested by god tier cops if you blaze it you dumb niggers.
>>71707511
It's like millennial plebs blowing their cash on vidya.
It's not addiction, but it's degenerate to be sure. It's reliance. It's dependency.
>>71707511
I smoked for a few years daily.
Getting off it is super easy ... what happens is that you start dreaming again and you sweat at night for like a week or two but thats about it.
Getting off cigarettes/nicotine is way worse for example. I'd even go so far to say that the 2-3 days you get a headache from not taking in coffeine is worse than that.
Overall its just a psychocological addiction just like people can become addicted to video games or shitposting on 4chan like you OP.
Some are more prone to it than others and has nothing to do with the drug but all with the person itself.
>What is personal responsibility?
>>71717525
Cops only go after poor people for this shit. Why do you have so many poor friends? Why are you hanging out with niggers? Are you a poor or a nigger?
>>71708402
>My own fault for being nice I suppose.
The bane of my existence.
>>71713134
>Misses the entire character and just uses "Quirky mannerisms"
This is why your memes suck, reddit.
It causes psychosis and schizophrenia. I now hear voices in my head.
>>71709515
Yes it does.
But you have been dosed regularly since birth so you don't notice it.
>>71709744
Your included image is meaningless external the source your pulled it from, just FYI.
>>71707511
Conservafags have a natural bias, sick of the ignorance that gets circlejerked around this subject, the ignorance that compounds the polarities between people. Always attack potheads fot. its like attacking religion to disprove god. dont trust anyone or anything that thinks they can alltogether ban a state of mind. sounds orwellian to the core. This is the collective cognitive dissonance of pol manifest once again.
muh muh muh must be weed induced psychosis lol too high for this bullshit.
>>71707964
Not so sure about that.. I have been without weed for 3 months now and I was happier when I was smoking that shit. I really have no reason not to smoked it so i'm getting back to it next week.
>>71707775
>shitposting
>>71711857
>I don't duck dick for pepsi
Maybe you would if you liked sucking dick.
Enjoying sucking dick is a thing. I'm with a girl now who literally wets her pants from a good throat fuck. If she makes a cup of coffee before heading back to her apartment, does that mean I'm manipulating her caffine addiction for sex?
No. I'm manipulating her addiction to pole smoking.
>>71713036
define addiction??? I like sex, so i have it a lot. i smoke weed cause i like weed. im pretty sure an addiction is when those things impose on other more essential things in life. and also lets just say the structure of society isnt shaped around a stoners routine or a stoners speed. not a problem if youre aware how much something is affecting you... change the dosage or dont smoke before work...you may as well fall for the rhetoric spouted from reefer madness... Dont suppose you care to change your view on it. Thus the cycle continues. just sick of the condescending bullshit, people drink and smoke tobacco legally. Most stoners would like there habit to be treated the same as those aforementioned drugs. into suppressing states of mind are we? the only shit that gets us out of the issues where in is by expanding consciousness...drugs are the cheatcode.
>>71708301
You heat up concentrated wax with a butane torch in a special carb hooked to a bong. Then you use a little stick or something like a dental tool to swirl it around the carb while you inhale.
It literally slaps you high. I don't care for them honestly. I like playing the slow game rather than going from 0 to 100 in an instant.
>>71707511
Totally addictive. I used to spend $600 a month on pot. Some people just don't have the will to use it sparingly, just as some drinkers turn into alcoholics.
I used to think it enhanced my life, but realized it had become my life. I quit out of sheer disgust.
Feels good to not be perpetually broke, tired and agitated.
>>71707775
>you can get addicted to anything that feels good.
>Video Games, masturbation, ect ect.
This. Imagine how the average millenial would act if you ban them from facebook and vidya.
>>71707612
Disagree. Have several stoners in my circle of friends. It's not addictive as in you don't suffer bad withdrawals, but they will seriously go on and on about "fiending" for weed if they haven't smoked in a day or so. Yes it's pathetic but I would still call that addictive behavior
>>71720415
you know you have won when you can still indulge from time to time ( aka rarely, as in few times per year, not once every 2 days )
I used to smoke a lot too, like everyday several joints for maybe 5 or 6 years
When I didnt have any I would be really upset, and only think about it.
Now I just dont give a fuck, sometimes I want to smoke but 5 minutes after I forget about it.
Sometimes I do smoke but the next day I dont want it anymore.
Somehow I think weed is great because its probably the only drug that is that easy to handle if you're not stupid. Cigarettes can be far worse for example, or even soda.
I have people in my family who have been smoking for a long time, they smoke a lot and even if they have jobs and a social life they're just the worst if they suddenly dont have any for a few days, literally impossible to live with.
Its sad.
>>71707511
I haven't had weed in 6 years, and I'm in pain and I want some, you'll probably call me an addict.
>>71707511
>Jessica
>red hair
>emoticons
Is she otherkin?
>>71719184
Yeah, if you think Rick would ever support a big-government socialist or say something like "we need everyone's support," you misunderstood the character.
>>71707623
>>71709744
>>71720852
Psychological addiction is different than physical addiction. You can get psychologically addicted to ANYTHING you enjoy. Videogames, porn, sex, even shitposting on 4chan. If you quit those things after doing them regularly for a long time, you'll WANT to do them again. It won't cause physical withdrawal symptoms, but you'll CRAVE it.
Physical withdrawal is like, uncontrollable shakes, headaches, pain, nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, insomnia, etc.
People commit violent crimes to quell physical withdrawal from physical addictions.
People complain on the internet about something "sucking" when a psychological addiction is taken from them. It's a huge difference.
>>71708274
It's the mildest psychedelic, but it is one. It's the closest classification we have for the drug, it's certainly not a depressant or a stimulant, or a disassociative.
It increases heartrate (like a lot of psychedelics) and can cause closed eye visuals.
>muh addiction
>muh physical withdrawals
>muh brain chemistry
Any reward-producing action can become a compulsion. We've known this for thousands of years.
This is a problem for philosophy, not science.
"And that might be appliedto him which is recorded of Socrates, that he was able both to abstainfrom, and to enjoy, those things which many are too weak to abstain from,and cannot enjoy without excess. But to be strong enough both to bear theone and to be sober in the other is the mark of a man who has a perfectand invincible soul, such as he showed in the illness ofMaximus." - Marcus Aurelius
>>71722079
>Videogames, porn, sex
They're considered legitimate addictions by psychologists.
>>71707511
It's not.
That bitch is just out for attention and free weed.
I know this because I am Dutch.
>>71722240
Yes, PSYCHOLOGICAL ADDICTIONS
Nobody mugs someone over a video game addiction, but you will over a heroin addiction or meth addiction if you're really hurting over it.
I've never touched drugs or alcohol but I'm addicted to soft drink. I'm worse than all you faggots.
>>71722538
Caffeine's a relatively easy physical addiction to break I mean probably the weakest of all physical addictions, and if it's soft drinks that you're hooked on rather than coffee or tea absolutely consider quitting. Soda is as bad for your teeth as smoking crystal meth. You will start losing teeth in your 30's if you don't. No amount of brushing can make up for the fact that you are bathing your teeth in phosphoric acid with every sip.
Once in awhile like at a movie theater or getting fast food while traveling on the road is okay, but a daily habit? It's fucking awful.
>>71707566
Its addictive to about 15%. I've read a few books and loads of journals about it. General consensus is that it is relative harmless (aside from the smoke) in less potent forms. It does cause laziness for sure though which I think us worse than an actual physical ailment.
>>71722965
No.. because the worst thing people will do for weed is steal out of the front seat of an unlocked car.
People rob at knife and gunpoint to get money when they're dopesick.
reprobates, why even ponder
>>71707511
DUDE
>>71722079
This
>>71707566
It has no chemical addiction but you can still get attached to the feeling of being high.
I know plenty of degenerates that smoke it literally every day and claim they're not addicted.
ITT: weed junkies in denial about weed being addictive.
\//\
>>71723502
ah, the posterboy of cannabis abuse
fucking disgusting stupid juggalo, fuck him, I hope chokes on a dab
>>71707511
>Why do potheads lie to themselves?
Because Cannabis fucks with the Ego. Potheads show a change in personality after a time and often in the negative direction.
That's what you get when you take a medicine everydayalthough you're not sick.
Its addictive. Don't listen to potheads saying that its not, however, many can actually smoke occasionally.
You can get addicted to anything.
>>71724017
vape nashiun
>>71707511
When you are a low life piece of shit, anything could turn into an addiction.
>>71707511
Her name is Jessica Breeden, from Houston Texas.
Her Facebook URL ends in Jessyburns36
>>71707511
>Why do potheads lie to themselves?
Because they are to stoned to give a shit about the truth.
>>71708859
Aww France defending degeneracy why am I not surprised.
>>71711198
I have. No plans of doing that again.
>>71707964
piss m8
>>71716065
>if you something under conditions where you would literally die if you didn't you are addicted to that thing
what a retarded post
>>71707511
Because their dumb. Any addict would defend it like that. If its not addicting stop smoking it until its legal. Pretty simple stuff.
>>71707885
are you 12? serious question.
>>71707511
First, keeping mind that there is behavioral and chemical addictions. Cigarettes are a good example of chemical, fingernail biting is behavioral. No chemical dependency but people will do it every day for decades anyway.
Pot is the same way.
Second, stating that they are not addicted is a coping mechanism. I have lost track as to how many people I've seen in a smoking area saying "I'm not addicted, I've just had a long week." Well it's your third time lighting up today and it's 11 a.m.
You're addicted.
Just look at it like AA does, because it's actually a decent rule of thumb: if you prioritize other things under smoking pot (I.e. You miss a deadline, you're late for something, you forgot to get errands done) then you may be addicted, severity being variable.
5 year, 23 yo daily smoker
>>71707511
>become ill
>smoke some weed to feel better
>able to eat and sleep and heal up
sounds pretty good to me
>>71707511
Why the hell would you smoke if you're sick?
>>71719418
>le causation meme
It doesn't cause any of that. There is some scientific evidence that it can trigger dormant mental problems in some people but those issues must already be present, cannabis use only causes them to emerge. It's thought that other stimulants can do the same (alcoholic psychosis exists, for example), even traumatic experiences can trigger episodes.
You were already on the path to psychosis and schizophrenia, your cannabis use just caused the symptoms to present themselves earlier. Keep in mind most psychotic symptoms first emerge in your twenties. This age group might correlate with excessive cannabis consumption, but that doesn't imply causation.
>>71707964
Dude it's written in the book of Chan's that you will forevert smoke the pot. Don't feel bad about it. Kek has chosen you as the prophet of dabs. What are your ten pot commandments?
>>71709978
Stoner roommates are the fucking worst pieces of shit.
I smoke weed everyday for 10+ years and I'm not addicted
>>71730490
This. It just makes you feel worse. I think most stoners are just weak-minded degenerates who think "weed is good, therefore weed will solve all my problems."
>>71731225
Weed works very well for headaches and nausea, you're willfully ignorant if you don't know that.
>>71709263
>dab hits
>ever fun
https://youtu.be/YC1RrgPnzRU?t=208
great way to give yourself a lobotomy
>>71731335
It never has for me. I'm no stranger to it when I'm feeling well and I have nothing more productive to do, but when I'm sick I find it's best to leave well alone. It turns a mild headache into a full-blown migraine every damn time.
>>71707511
It's not an addiction though. It can be habitual sure but the side effects of quitting marijuana are like 3 days of missing it then your brain starts to return to normal.
Take from someone that's been 'hooked' on cocain, nicotene and ganja. Nicotene is hardest to quit because it's easy to get and socially acceptable to take in public.
>>71707566
it is, im a daily user.
if you ever had an addiction problem you'd be able to spot addiction in mj A MILE FUCKING AWAY.
>>71731571
The key is to only take a single hit. The pain killing sets in at a lower threshold than actually getting high. Get high when you're sick and yeah chances are it will make things worse. Take a hit or two and you'll be golden. I woke up with a shitty dehydration headache today and cured it instantly with a hit, then started drinking water.
>>71708402
Stomp that faggot out. 500$? I would fucking kill the fucker.
>>71731728
I can get the same result from a couple paracetamol, and it's significantly cheaper. Thanks but no thanks.
>pothead acquaintance keeps trying to tell me weed cures cancer
>>71732091
>mfw I overheard a guy in tesco saying exactly that, and that it's illegal because of big pharma making money from cancer treatments
>>71732091
>implying pot doesn't cure cancer
>implying that government wants you to know this
http://www.google.com/patents/US6630507
4/20 smoke weed everyday
She's not addicted, she's just spoiled. Addiction means like you are weakened by not having it. This woman is just bitching that her daily routine is slightly altered but she is probably fine.
Potheads do tend to get sicker because they share pipes and joints and whatnot, sometimes even cigarettes. Which is absolutely a good reason not to smoke pot.
>>71732003
Paracetamol is a shitty painkiller, and hell on your liver too. If money is an issue, try vaping.
>>71709412
Same for me with coffee addiction. I think it started when I forgot to ask for a creamer (cream is for faggots btw) and started drinking black coffee ever since. Being stationed in Okinawa made it worse because the nips have vending machines full of canned coffee, hot and cold with many different styles, and I'd drink that all the. Now I can't go 20 mins in the morning without having my first coffee. I usually drink 3-5 cups per day throughout the day now.
>>71708179
>Don't drink caffeine
>Don't smoke
>Don't drink beer
>Don't even eat much candy
Quit trying to rationalize your degeneracy by assuming that everyone else is as fucked up as you are.
>>71731114
You always had the freedom not to smoke, you just didn't ever stop, but you weren't addicted you just like it a lot.
>>71707511
It's possible to become addicted to anything that makes you feel good (sex, alcohol, weed, etc) that does not mean the "addictive" thing is inherently bad, it means the person addicted to it is weak willed.
>>71707566
False.
If it is a recreational activity that isn't required to sustain your existence, and you continue to do it more than once, it's addiction.
>>71707511
Its not addictive I smoked for 4 years strait then simply stopped cold turkey 3 months ago. No cravings, no side effects, nothing. Stop trying to scare idiots.
>>71714781
>>71720319
I smoked weed for 9bmonths and when i quit cold turkey, i had mental and physical withdrawal.
That is what an addiction is, when your body is used to something so much that you need it, because without you have adverse reactions (cravings and withdrawal).
Im an old fag mind you, and in my younger days i was also addicted to heroin, and the addiction, the need is similar to that of werd, just on a highly different scale.
Im not saying weed should be illegal, but it shouldnt be treated as a harmless plant with no adverse reactions and people need to know the eventual repercussions of cobtinued use; the same way there is for alcohol and tobacco, and any hardcore drug.
>>71733005
>strait
Stay in school.
>>71732973
That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard
I like to play my guitar every now and then, am I addicted to guitars? Dumbass
>mfw smoke all day in college
>graduate with accounting degree and stop smoking
>get new job
>smoke every day after work
How mad /pol/?
>>71726557
Why? why do you want to be a slave to meaningless jewish laws?
>>71733005
stop lying your high right now faggot
>>71733048
I was a heavy smoker for over a year and just got bored and quit. No withdrawals no cravings, nothing.
I also quit drinking alcohol after consuming a big amount and I had cravings, anxiety and a bunch of weird physical sensations.
I don't really care about smoking weed anymore and I could care less either way if it were made legal or stayed illegal, but imo it really isn't that harmful and it should just be legal.
>>71733048
>That is what an addiction is, when your body is used to something so much that you need it, because without you have adverse reactions (cravings and withdrawal).
No, it's habitual use that leads to 'cravings'.
An addiction is where, when deprived of certain chemicals your body literally shuts down and under certain circumstances you die. You say you used to do Heroin so you should realize the difference between physical and mental addiction and the difference between cravings and withdrawal.
I do agree with you on principal though, these people who are all "Weed is 100% harmless natural curative for all the worlds ills" are retarded.
We really need a better term for 'habitual usage' instead of just turning 'addiction' into a retarded blanket term.
>>71733202
You only have a guitar problem when you start injecting them like I do.
>>71732507
>eating candy at all
fucking manchild
>>71733253
not mad at all, I hope you got yourself a nice storz and bickel vape with your new job, anon. :)
>>71733005
This
>>71733508
Ive got an extreme q i have been using for a few years, its my favorite purchase
>>71733253
i guess im sorry for you?
seeing as your brain was likely still developing in college you will never be as smart as you could have been
anything you like and use every day can become addictive
the truth is no accountant lies about being an accountant on a taiwanese fingerpainting board in order to try to argue that weed isn't addictive
people enjoy weed, people convince theirselves that there are no negative effects to smoking weed
people smoke weed every day
people with addictive personalities become dependent, works as simple as that
>all these straight edge micro dicks ITT that think they are superior because they dont have fun
>>71722185
It has both depressant and stimulant properties. It's strange to be sure.
>be addicted to weed
>have to quit, interfering with education, mental health and economy
>now one week without, going strong
>gf keeps offering it to me despite telling her countless times not to.
ffs why can she not get it into her thick skull.
>>71708691
Hahaha.
Do you feel bad brushing your remaining tooth in the morning?
>>71707511
people can get addicted to anything retard
>>71732973
Untrue, it doesn't become an addiction until you can't afford it. Until then it's a habit.
>>71733613
>extreme Q
Eh, it's not the best vaporizer there is, but it's better than combusting your bud. You should stray on the side of caution when using the extreme Q, some horrible QC issues with many of the people that have bought it. I have a Mighty, portable vape from storz and bickel, and a vapexhale as my stationary.
I haven't used combustible or traditional bongs for about 2 years now.
vapelyfe
No one is mentioning the THC found in pot
THC is addictive, not the pot, but the THC that's in the pot.
I have been more or less a daily smoker for over 5 years. I absolutely think marijuana addiction is very real. If I have weed, I will smoke it, not overboard or anything, just a hit or two. However, when I run out I'm not in some crazed panic to get more (I do know people like this) and usually wait a month or two before I get more.
For reference I am in grad school and I work a full time office job.
>>71733845
Weed is stupid. I quit years ago after being a super stoner. Life has been great without it.
Also your gf sucks. My roomates all smoke cigs and weed but they know better than to offer it because it's rude as hell to someone recovering.
Also GFs who smoke pot are usually turbo sluts you should leave her.
>>71733845
Shes selfish
She'd rather have someone to smoke with than see you become successful
>>71707511
Weed is degenerate as hell.
It is addictive and anyone that says otherwise is a stoner. I quit smoking it mainly because everyone else that does it an insufferable dude weed lmao faggot.
Ask yourselves this weedfags, If you had to hurry home to abuse another substance like alcohol or cocaine would it be a problem? If you used another substance as much as weed would you qualify as being addicted to it? If you had to drink a 40oz on your lunch break would you consider that a problem?
Then why don't you consider your weed habit a problem.
Needing any substance to this extent to have a meaningful life is bad.
>>71734000
Trips of truth for the retards that don't realize this. That our receptors in our brains weren't designed for THC that is is just the right shape for this receptor that accepts a different natural brain chemical in charge of forgetting extraneous information. Fuckin stoners are retarded
>mfw my brother just turned down a job that paid $18 an hour starting, plus benefits and a retirement plan that would have allowed him to retire in his 40's because they do random drug tests and he refuses to quit smoking weed
Literally threw his life away.
>>71734262
Weed and being poor is a way of life and culture for stoners.
>>71722965
> addictive to 15%
Wtf? Hahhaaahahahaha, no.
Pls stahp
>>71734213
I smoke weed about every other weekend on average, I never feel the need to "rush home and smoke it", but it's a nice way to relax on the weekend sometimes.
No one would ever know I smoke weed unless i told them, which I never do, because as soon as you tell someone you smoke week people assume you're "dude weed lmao".
Not everyone who smokes weed is a hippie stoner faggot.
>>71734055
Good to hear your life improved, need all the motivation I can get.
I am beginning to realise she is dragging me down, time for me to grow up. I am almost done with my MSc but weed has made it such a struggle.
Eh I'd say it is someone addictive, but not in a very harmful way. I smoke pretty much every day and have done so since I was around 18. Now I'm 25, have a college degree, a comfy job, and a nice car. Weed never held me back, and I have managed to quit a few times for several months at a time. But I always come back. There is no physical addiction, I've never had withdrawals or mood swings when I've quit before, though I have noticed my dreams get more vivid and strange for a few days after quitting. In the end I just start smoking again because I enjoy it and there's really no draw backs to smoking a bowl when I get off of work. I also smoke cigarettes and that is a real addiction. I actually want to stop smoking those this year but man that's a lot tougher than quitting weed. I almost never consume alcohol though, which is good because alcoholism and surprise run in my family.
>>71707511
>got sick 5 days ago
>sleeping more than 20 hours a day
>4 days eating literally nothing, just drinking water and because I was forced too
>sitting or standing for more than 1 hour makes me dizzy
>want to play my PS2, watch JoJo and The 100 but I can't
We all have our addictions.
>>71734213
are you still in highschool by any chance? most adults that smoke act perfectly normal
>>71734663
>I was forced to*
>>71734646
Alcoholism and sirosis*
>>71707511
I quit for 6 months due to military service. I smoked like once or twice a week on the weekends. People who get addicted to it, those who really need it, are just weak.
>>71722185
I don't know about psychedelic qualities of weed. For me it's like a less severe form of intoxication by hard liquor that lasts longer. It's identical to getting drunk on vodka while retaining better control of the body. I don't even like being drunk, I prefer the buzz from wine or beer, so I don't like smoking weed. It had no psychedelic effect on me, and I tried the "psychedelic" varieties.
>>71734262
>$18/hour
>threw his life away
Your brother is stupid but that is nowhere near as high a wage as you are making it out to be
>>71734698
topkek. most "adults" that smoke weed are losers though.
Sure there are cherrypicked examples of successful stoners but the rule is that they are all kitchen working pleb tier losers.
Weed makes the majority of people that smoke it ok with being lazy, which is not a good thing at all.
>>71734213
The 40oz on the lunch break seems like an extreme example desu. I would never smoke a blunt on my break.
I'll smoke a little bit at the end of the day after all my shit is done, and maybe that would be the equivalent of having a beer or something. Is it necessarily healthy? No, but I don't think it's exceptionally terrible.
Obviously I'm probably in the minority and there are tons of DUDE WEED people who propagate every negative stereotype. But I also believe there are a surprising number of people like myself who use it to unwind after a day of productivity.
>>71734765
The psychedelic component to bud is potentiated if you've ever done a hallucinogenic drug in your life, this is from anecdotal experience with friends of mine who haven't tried dropping/mushrooms/salvia and those who have. That's not to say that there isn't already a good variety of cannabis strains from the sativa family that can mimic the headspace you would get from an acid trip. I find that if you alter the delivery (edibles, for instance will allow for the THC to be stored longer, producing a more intense high for a longer duration to dabbing which is a short duration - intense high) will also play in effect to whether you'll trip off your bud.
tl;dr smoke/eat sativa dominant strains
>>71735232
I think I'm pretty successful - graduated university, married, $95,000/yr, and only 25, but then again I think that successful people are outliers in life that have nothing to do with pot. Genetics have to do a lot with susceptibility and addiction.
>>71707612
>>71720852
I found weed harder to quit than cigarettes. There was actual, physical pain involved with quitting.
>>71735721
Hmm that's interesting. I remember the first time I took a big break I was very anxious about not sleeping and eating well, etc. I think I hyped it up in my head and made it worse than it needed to be.
Now when I run out I don't get any sort of withdrawal symptoms at all. I donno.
Quitting coffee cold turkey was FAR worse than any experience I had with weed.
>>71707566
Some people don't get addicted to Tobacco, yet we still say it is addictive.
It's been shown now that cannabis addiction can leadto actual physical withdrawals when you stop.
The game is over stoner scum.
>>71707775
The measure of addiction is how much it interferes with the life you want to live. I knew a guy who was addicted to exercise. He neglected his family and career in favor of fitness. He recognized that it was causing problems in his life, but couldn't cut back.
>>71735256
>But I also believe there are a surprising number of people like myself who use it to unwind after a day of productivity.
I would say we are the silent majority. You never hear about these types of people because they are the ones ashamed to be associated with the dude weed lmao crowd. But since the stoners are the only ones open about smoking weed they are the only ones people hear about and so everyone assumes that anyone who smokes weed is like that.
>>71731744
fuck off edgelord. you're pedantic even for forchans
>>71735448
I tried different strains in Amsterdam on vacation. I had no hallucinogenic effects from any weed I tried. It's literally being shitfaced while able to control your body. I don't like being shitfaced, so I'm not crazy about the weed. It's more potent than alcohol in terms of there was no buzz (maybe because I wasn't experienced smoker). Take one puff and you are shitfaced. I guess people who would otherwise be drunks chose weed now, and I can see it as a better alternative, but there were no hallucinations nor altered reality from any strain I tried. Just different forms of being drunk. Some were mild actually, but I was still feeling drunk.
>>71719094
you're a nice guy
>>71710249
Yep. I've killed a few relationships that way. Lend money to family and friends only if you could still be family or friends if they did not pay you back. Better to just avoid it entirely, but if you have to....
>>71734766
>Starting
You missed that part. I know someone else who works there and got the job at the same age as my brother is now and currently makes $52 an hour at 28. The company also matches everything he puts into his retirement plan.
>>71707888
being stoned doesnt make you weak person, you are weak person even before you get stoned on everyday basis. in other words before you get your first hit, you are already a cunt.
>>71707964
I was super addicted
I'm on my 4th day clean and let me tell you it becomes so much easier to stop once you can get through a day without smoking
>>71708201
you are not a minority, you are a fuckup just like majority.
>>71707511
Is it sick because it's out of "green"?
>>71736429
Did you ever try edibles? Also, I find it incredibly difficult to imagine that you were in Amsterdam, had tried multiple strains and weren't able to feel anything apart from the physical effects of being stoned ("different forms of being drunk"), which sounds to me that all you tried were mild hybrids, that were likely to be indica-dominant, or just plain indica strains. If you live in a legal state, care to see whether you can feel the effects of psychedelics, or whatever, get a strain native to africa, which are sativa-dominant - like durban. With a CBD level of .02, I doubt that you'll feel any of the "drunk" effects you ordinarily feel from bud.
I actually use this instead of coffee, it's that unlike most bud.
>>71708301
Drugs Are Bad
>>71737131
Fuck, no way I'm trying edibles. I need the next day to have the weed come out of the system, and edibles are supposedly longer lasting. I puked from smoking a hash joint in one sitting. I was throwing up all night. I'm not trying edibles. I need a puff to feel high. Maybe next time I'm where the weed is legal I will start with sativa strain. But I'm pretty sure I tried sativa. Again, I remember Amsterdam in bits and pieces.
>>71709412
>cold brew
>that feel when so addicted to coffee you have to drink it cold so you can get enough of it in a timely manner
Pic related
>>71707964
>id
>>71708274
Its most definitely a psychedelic. Granted its a lot easier to tell once you've tripped
