>employee makes fifty $5 sandwiches in an hour
>is only entitled to $7.25 an hour
Can wageslaves make sense of this? This is fucking robbery.
>>71669017
Dude, I'm a socialist and even I know what you said is fucking retarded.
>>71669017
No one at subway gets paid minimum wage. Shut the fuck up.
>>71669017
>upkeep of facilities
>delivery drivers
>ingredients used to make dem sammiches
>wages of all other non-stock producing staff
>accountants, advertisement, security
good thing I've been sorting out my pol folder today
>>71669017
I agree. Employee should receive a minimum wage and get a cut for every sandwich he makes.
>>71669017
Go make and sell your own sandwiches nigger
>>71669017
>only entitled to
They're not entitled to anything.
Not that wage or that job.
If they wants more than the minimum, they need to go out of their way to ask and prove to their bosses that they should get more.
>>71669017
>what is overhead costs
people are retarded
>>71669017
Starting wage at subway is 9.00 an hour, so shut it. And if niggers weren't squandering all their funds, they could survive of 7.50 an hour.
>>71669017
Do the employees have any share in the success or failure of the business in the long run beyond having to find another job? If the business fails do the employees take on a share of any outstanding business loans? Do they pay for bread, toppings or condiments?
>>71669017
Start your own sandwich shop then.
>>71669017
>robbery
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know how much business owners have to fucking spend to keep a place open, faggot?
Fuck off
>>71669017
>Perform a task that requires no skill
>Get paid based on that skill
I see no problem here. Want money? Learn a trade or skill thats marketable
>>71669351
you forgot the merchant as well.
Pay by commission makes sense, and if I was running a company, that is how I'd pay people.
They didn't pay for the ingredients, pay for the tools to prepare them, pay for the electricity, pay the rent for the building, pay for employees, etc.
>>71669652
then get fired cuz intel decided they can get a poo in loo to do your job for half the price
>>71669017
Robbery? They agree to be paid that amount. No one is forcing them to work for that amount.
>>71669017
You're not entitled to any more than you will work for. If you will work for free, that's all you're entitled to you. It's up to you to decide what you're entitled to and what you will work for. If someone offers you less than you are entitled to, don't work for them. It's that simple.
>>71669471
>they should slave for more pennies
How nice.
>>71669859
great advice man
dont worry if you starve to death in the process either
>>71669017
>>employee makes fifty $5 sandwiches in an hour
Even the cheapest sandwich in commiefornia goes for around $7 or so once taxes are included.
>>71669017
Cos their labour is useless without ingredients and a factory and packaging and advertising and distribution and shit ugetme famurai
>>71669615
>>robbery
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know how much slave owners have would to fucking spend to keep a cotton field open, faggot?
Fuck off
>>71669819
Your failure to adapt and diversify your skill sets is the reason you will stay on welfare.
Stay mad and poor.
>>71669891
Well then they need to go and get a better paying unskilled job or become skilled.
Simple as that.
>>71670139
Technology surpassed the negroid
They just became redundant tools
>averaging 50 sandwiches an hour
That must be a really good subway if they're that busy. Only true sandwich artisans could keep up with that kind of traffic.
>>71670181
Check out this fucking kike
>>71669017
There are more costs associated with business?
How'd the meat get there? How'd the building get there? equipment? advertising so people would know it's there? etc
>>71670139
>slavery
>relevant
Choose one.
>>71669314
subway employee here, we all do at our franchise, after 4 months we get a 20c raise if we didn't fuck up, there's a girl who worked 8 months and is still on min wage
>fifty sandwiches an hour
>implying the shop even vends that many, all staff included
Single-location eateries with a legendary reputation will do that kind of business, but the employees in such a place usually make far more than the typical BigBrand frontliner. They also work harder and deliver a better product.
Sucks to be you if you don't have any places like this in your community.
>>71669017
>nigger fucks up half of all his hourly tasks
>is fucking lucky to be alive
>>71670193
Or they should get the money they deserve. Why does /pol/ protect thieves?
>>71669017
Oh my fucking fuck just open your own sandwich shop and sell your sandwiches for as much as you want you dumb fucking peasants, stop leeching off of employers and demanding more pay than what they offer. Lazy entitled fucks are easy to replace
>>71669017
>sign a contract to work for a company
>agree to $7.50 and hour when they sign
>company will take care of marketing, advertisement, managing, hiring new employees, stocking the store, providing the food, facility, machines, mantenience, and uniform
>worker puts the patty in a bun
>muh $15
T. Fast food worker
>>71670517
How much do subways pay to the merchant for franchising?
What's the problem, exactly? If you're making sandwiches, and you're not a high school or college student who just needs some money on the side, you shouldn't be making sandwiches at all.
>>71670700
Yeah, everyone can just open a business easy. Then no one would have to do that easy work and poor employers wouldn't be forced to part with their pocket change.
>>71669017
Because that was the deal you made.
We should have created a system where we get a portion of profits direct from our labor; or created contracting legal systems that were easy and flexible to assist individuals with bargaining with businesses and ensure fair outcomes for both parties. Perhaps create data bases to share pay information between competing workers to compare rates and asses the best value for work etc.
BUT NO, we just need to be paid 1 fixed minimum income that is equal to everyone regardless of the job. This is why progressives, egalitarians, and liberals are retarded.
>>71670451
>Gives sound advice
M-m-muh Jooz
>>71669017
Furthermore, do the employees provide the ingredients? No. Do the employees decide what goes on the menu? No. Do the employees pay the bills to keep the store open? No. Do the employees balance budgets and finances to keep the shop profiting? No. Did the employees purchase the successful brand name? No. All they do is fuck up my sandwich and then bitch about how it's someone else's fault that they don't amount to shit.
>>71669987
No they don't retard. At Subway, a "5 dollar footlong" will cost you $5.50 at the most after taxes, and that's rounding up.
>>71670139
None, because they already own the land, they'd just have to pay for crops to plant
>>71670488
LOL you know we still have slaves, right?
We just call them "felons" now
>>71669314
I was paid minimum wage when I worked at Subway. But we also got a 6" or a footlong for free every shift and free drinks, so it wasn't too bad I guess.
>>71670936
That's the beauty of capitalism, it separates the rich from the poor, or more accurately, the smart from the fucking retarded.
>>71670830
Something like $2500 per store a month? Our owners have 8 stores. There's also a $15,000 fee for opening a store and corporate holds onto 12% of all proceeds or something.
>>71670996
In a long enough time period no ones job is safe from the Jews. STEM jobs all going to loo's is just an example of this.
You didn't make the whole sandwich you assembled it. You are being paid to hand it out, not create the parts
>>71669017
yea, It's called materials, overhead and profit
>>71669314
What does your neighbourhood look like?
>>71670685
>Or they should get the money they deserve
Again, there goes that word.
You're not entitled to anything.
If you want something, you have to work to get it.
>>71671109
This is retarded. Felons, are people who committed felonies and are now in prison. It's not slave labour, it's prison labour, and they get paid, 15 cents an hour ussually. If they didn't want to be exploited they shouldn't have committed crimes.
>>71671109
Don't commit felonies, then.
Chris Chan barged into a shop where he wasn't wanted then maced and employee for telling him to leave while he was vandalizing things. The felony crime he was charged with magically transformed into a misdemeanor when he was convicted. You have to be EVEN MORE RETARDED than cwc to become a convicted felon.
>staying on the right side of the law is too hard
Then fuck off back to Africa.
>Worker produces 7 dollars worth of goods and services an hour
>Minimum wage is increased to 15 usd
>Worker is no longer a worker.
>Beep boop
I've worked at Domino's when I was a teen and that shit was shitty. The pay fucking sucked, the boss was a cunt, and the owners would come in and constantly bitch about dumb shit "anon, you can't cuss, anon you can't dip your balls in the pizza sauce".
So you know what I did? I bitched and protested until I got $15 an hour.
Just kidding, I quit making pizzas for asshole customers and I went out and got a better job at a warehouse for $15 an hour. Manager was chill as fuck, they taught me to drive a forklift, and there was no pizzasauce to tempt my balls.
>>71669017
>employer has to pay for the building
>employer has to pay for the bread
>employer has to pay for the meat
>employer has to pay for the electricity >employer has to pay for the sewage and water
>employer has to pay for the advertising
>>71670700
hahahahahahahahahaha
>easy to replace
Wait until jobs come back to america, shekel-guy
>>71671228
Or we could just take it, since it does belong to us.
>>71669017
so why doesnt the worker buy the ingredients and sell his own burgers? then he gets to keep everything
>>71669017
The employee doesn't pay for the bread, retard. The only thing the employee provides is the calories and ten minutes of learning how to assemble sandwiches. The only reason we don't have a machine doing it is that people aren't comfortable watching their sandwiches being made by robots. The employee is frankly worth less than 7.50 an hour. He should be paid something more like 6.
The owner, who pays for the bread, the fixings, the building, the electricity, the toaster, and the employee, he is the one who has made a significant investment, and he is the one who reaps the benefits--which are not enormous, by the by. Togos at least has a very thin profit margin, they rely on volume to survive.
>what is basic economics
Because his labor is worth this much,and the most of the 5$ price of the sandwich are the ingredients used to make it.
>>71671137
If capitalism is so wonderful, why can't it survive without the state bailing it out every twenty years?
>>71671329
Are you implying that all the laws in the US are constitutional?
Ok so when they don't have any sandwiches to make they should get paid nothing then
>>71669017
I understand entirely where you're coming from. I used to have a mcjob back in college. I moved out of that job to something better, while most people who worked with me, stayed and still work there to this day. I understand why they want 15$ an hour because there are no better paying jobs and they've been there so long it's become their career. I dont think raising the minimum wage will do anything substantial. All it will do is upscale the poverty level. Businesses will begin to cut staff and raise prices to accommodate. Look at Seattle the 15$ an hour wage has killed most small businesses. The only people who survive are big corporations and mom and pop shops. Mandatroy wage hikes always have the adverse effect they harm small and medium business and help large business to dominate an area. I'm not saying that Walmart is guiltless, they will pay people as little as possible and for as long as they can get away with. We need alternatives to Mcjobs. We need to bring back jobs to America that pay well like manufacturing and other industry. That's why I'm voting trump. If hillary gets into office it will be the status quo, but god forbid if bernie does he will kill the american economy.
>>71671510
It can, bailouts are just more convenient than market corrections.
>>71671187
Correction,IT jobs which everyone likes to do because easy as fuck comfy office job go to poo in loo. Heavy machinery fields are poo clear,since teaching a poo to code is easier than teaching a poo the way metals bent and deform in different conditions.
>>71671411
Why don't the employers make the burgers themselves? Then they get to keep everything. You know, since life is so hard for them, parting with some money is a pain.
>>71670325
I think it goes a bit beyond the technology aspect of slavery too
>Thoughts on George Washington over Slavery: He didn't automatically react to it as a great good or a great evil but he studied it. What he latched onto initially was not a kind of a solely moral issue but was based on the fundamental principle on the right to work freely and the right to enjoy the fruits of your labor freely and the right to invest and prosper freely. And Washington believed that industry and morality were two sides of the same coin. A moral man would be industrious, the industrious man is therefore a moral man. If you prevent a man from being industrious on his own account, you corrupt him morally and you corrupt yourself morally and it corrupts the nation, it enervates the nation. He began to see what this would do over the long term to his own estate, not just looking at the short term, free labor, but looking what would happen in the long term. Enslaved people will do the minimum possible. Naturally, they don't want to be enslaved. They want to be free. So they're going to do the very minimum that you tell them to do. They're not going to innovate, they're not going to experiment, they're not going to work hard because they want to. They're only going to do what they're told and how are you going to grow over the long term that way? That is where he really saw the evil in slavery.
>What held him back from freeing his slaves earlier? I think it was because he was a law and order guy who feared social disruption and dislocation and he was simply afraid of what would happen. But you have to give him credit that he did eventually did by the terms of his will say that his slaves would be freed upon Martha's death. Of course, Martha didn't like that so she freed them herself earlier.
>>71671183
>Something like $2500 per store a month?
>There's also a $15,000 fee for opening a store
>and corporate holds onto 12% of all proceeds or something.
>>71669017
It is called surplus value and it IS robbery.
>>71671389
bait.
>>71669017
>entitled
Use of this word reveals a lot about your perspective. Don't like the pay? Don't take the job.
>>71671329
LOL you probably loved the patriot act too
>>71671411
>why doesn't
The government curb stomps entry-level entrepreneurs.
Democrats keep saying every single election, "we'll pass laws that stop corporate exploitation of the working class!" Then they pass laws which corporations use to flog the working class and destroy anyone who tries to ascend beyond it. The wording of these laws is provided by the same corporations the Democrats promised to stop, and then enforced by courts and their rent-a-cops ruled by judges from the elite class.
>>71671639
>the way metals bent and deform in different conditions.
Meanwhile most of the steel in the world is now built in China and India
>>71670139
>Seed
>Water and fertilizer
>Equipment and maintenance
>Housing
>Food
>Clothing
>Transportation for goods
>Security
You don't even have a clue.
>>71671621
>We need alternatives to Mcjobs
its called 2 year degree, apprenticeship, blue collar work, etc.
Right now they pay you pretty well to be a truck driver. People just don't want to do those kind of jobs.
Automation is also squeezing the entire sector of jobs, as anyone can see that production increased as well as profits while workers needed went down.
The economy will never be 'the same' and it never was. Literally there are no jobs for you or most of america anymore because they are simply too dumb or lazy to participate.
Thats the future.
>>71671747
what happens when they have too many people who want burgers and cant make them fast enough?
>>71671943
communists should be shot tbqh
>>71671621
>I'm not saying that Walmart is guiltless, they will pay people as little as possible and for as long as they can get away with.
Walmart starts at $10 an hour, with raises every year or so. They have two fifteen-minute breaks and an hour-long lunch.
That's a lot better than a metric fuck ton of jobs.
Why do people keep up with the 'Walmart is exploiting workers!!!' charade when they changed their tactics years ago?
Walmart's pay isn't the best but if you really care you'll go protest people who are forcing their employees to work 7.25 for 9-10 hours straight with no breaks. You are a lot better off working at Walmart than many, many other entry-level jobs.
Do you think Walmart work is that hard? How many lanes do you see open? How many nigress cashiers do you see standing around, fucking idle, gossipping and chatting with other nigresses while 30 people line up for the singular open lane? $10 an hour for that. 30 minutes paid break. An hour long break in the middle of their shift.
If you think you're capable of making more money on your own then why don't you do just that? No one is forcing you to make sandwiches for Subway, they don't have the patent on throwing meat, vegetables, and bread together.
Because out in the world, there are plenty of less retarded entitled shits out there who will gladly earn 7.25 an hour just to stand around and put together sandwiches. Such is the nature of a free market.
Are you really going to blame your fellow man for not being as lazy and bitchy as you are?
>>71671597
What I would do is pay people a dollar above minimum wage plus X% of whatever they serve to guests. If you're a bartender and you're busting ass constantly then you should make as much money as a skilled tradesman. If you're sitting on your ass and playing with your phone then you get paid a dollar above minimum wage.
t. aspiring restaurateur from a several-generation family of restaurateurs
>>71671983
Yeah,and the quality is fucking shit. I work with those cunts,I swear to god the only way to get any good deliveries is to expect every single metal sheet.
And moreover,they only produce the raw materials,actual things are created elsewhere,as far as heavy industry is concerned. All this is is the cheap materials aspect of the country.
All the angry wagecucks ITT
>>71672100
>what happens when they have too many people who want burgers and cant make them fast enough?
Work harder or work smarter. It was their decision to start a business.
>>71669017
>bernie gets in
>yay $15 a hour
>wait o shit, 50% tax
>make 7.50 an hour
bern fags will defend this
>>71672231
Jews don't care about quality
>>71671354
Lines get blurred when you truly have nothing to begin with. What if the Big Business that controls America made it a felony to be a dill-hole? Then you'd be the felon and you'd probably change your tune real quick
>>71669017
Here you go, OP faggot:
Profit margin on many items in fast food chains is single digit. You sell a $5 sandwich, there may be 20-40 cents max made after costs are paid.
Employee makes 50 sandwiches per hour @ 30 cents profit per sandwich = $15 profit on $250 in sales.
Now, if only fucktard gibsmedats like yourself understood how ANY business runs, maybe you wouldn't continually put your faggy foot in your mouth so damned much.
There was a case a few years ago where McDonalds corporate had actually forced their franchisees to adhere to a special offer that was actually COSTING them money on every sale as the higher ups didn't factor things correctly and required their restaurants to adhere to that cost for a number of weeks regardless of the fact they lost money on every order where someone took advantage of the discounted price.
Fuck me if you can't understand that nobody buys the materials for a sandwich for 10 cents and makes $4.90 on it. You have a thousand costs eating up whatever profit there IS to be made due to rent, employees, taxes, and a shitload of other things, but when you've never been responsible for shit, you wouldn't know this.
My suggestion, go out and get a fucking job, work your way into a position where you actually SEE the costs of operation, and you won't be a fucking retard any longer.
>>71669017
sure. there's 100 people lining up to do it for cheaper.
op btfo.
>>71672214
>If you're a bartender and you're busting ass constantly then you should make as much money as a skilled tradesman.
They do, in tips.
>>71672364
But jet drives,and metalworking machines do. No quality steel - no air transportation.
>>71671075
Forget about paco. Hes still.mad about the wall
>>71672299
work smarter like hiring someone to help maybe?
I actually own a deli, and our labor costs are about 27% of sales, meaning for those 50 sandwiches I'm paying out $68, not $7.50. One employee making one sandwich a minute would mean we are very busy--you can't ignore those hours were they are making 10 sandwiches an hour, or those five hours in the morning we are prepping before we even start selling. Then you have to factor in the biggest cost, food itself (37% of sales). Next add in rent , utilities, repairs and maintenance, advertising costs, credit card processing fees, payroll processing and accounting, taxes, fees, depreciation, and a thousand other expenses. All said and done I might net 5% ($12.50) on those $250 in sales. Also even though minimum wage is $8.10 where I live, all my employees make at least $10.25 per hour.
>>71672380
>staying on the right side of the law is too hard
The post you cited already addresses this.
>>71671747
this is autism. They make more money by hiring employees than doing it all themselves.
Yes, good goy. Vote for Bernie the Comrade. Don't work for anything and become a bunny in a cage of government controlled welfare.
>>71672242
The anger comes from you being so fucking ignorant of reality and simultaneously smug about your ignorance.
If you weren't such a fucking dipshit and understood basic business principle instead of swallowing failed socialist memes and regurgitating them as if they were fact, maybe it wouldn't be akin to our trying to explain trigonometry to an autistic toddler.
>>71672299
hahahahah
how can one person make enough sandwiches to make a profit?
>>71672422
>They do, in tips.
Yeah, if you have a nice pair of tits and ass.
>>71672524
But then he's accountable to that person and giving what that person is due is bad, right?
>>71672695
You think about it.
>>71672557
Also if you raise the minimum wage from $12 (my average wage for sandwich makers) to $15 an hour, then my cost on those 50 sandwiches goes to $84.25, and I go from making $12.50, to losing $4.38.
Good goy. Become mindless. Become piggy as we the government decide what we do with you.
>>71672412
>crack that whip harder massa
>>71672784
Only female bartenders get tips in Sweden? Shit country indeed.
>>71672420
That's it, don't let the goys rise. Don't wanna end up on the rope now, Sheckelstein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8b-yvlSNG4
>>71671357
I would eat at McDonalds just to experience using one of these machines.
If commiewage grunts crybaby about me using the machine then I will write a letter to corporate about their poor attitude.
>>71669837
>No one is forcing them to work for that amount.
Except fear of homelessness and starvation
>>71671411
lol this is a nutshell.
There is literally nothing stopping anyone from opening their own sandwich shop. The scenario OP described doesn't take into account that the franchise owner has done all the legwork and could have his life savings invested into the store and now some unskilled laborer he hired to make fucking sandwiches basically wants a profit sharing arrangement. LOL.
I honestly can't stand poor people because they don't understand how things work and don't bother to care.
>>71672868
>You think about it.
by hiring employees
>>71672678
Tough week wagecuck?
Don't worry if you keep licking the boot and making shekels you will be happy
>>71672952
When did i say that? Learn to read slav. If you have a nice rack and a tight ass drunk guys will give you more money then if you are a fat neckbeard.
>>71673001
implying jews invented business
>>71669017
Oh poorfag...get your shit together and get a better job.
>>71672918
>Get blown the fuck out
>"H-huu huu bootl-licker"
Leftists are such trash. Thank God we smashed your teeth out in New York. The government is never going to steal my money and give it to you, cuck.
>>71672606
Guess it's not so bad to part with a little money after all, huh? They're just greedy and you unwittingly admit it.
>>71673166
>But then he's accountable to that person and giving what that person is due is bad, right?
>>71669017
jesus fuck not even liberals are this fucking retarded
adding to this >>71669351
>selling MAX 50 sandwiches an hour, as registers are limited (if they open a second register it might go up to a hundred per hour)
>only at peak hours such as lunch and dinner (almost no one goes to breakfast subway)
>open 24/7
>with 10 people working at peak hours and as low as 2 during night hours
4 peak hours 100 sandwiches/hr 10 people
4 peak hours 50 sandwiches/hr 8 people
8 hours low activity 20 sand 4 people
8 night minimal activity 4 sand 2 people
total sales 5544. total hours 120 hours
for every 5 dollar foot long about 4 dollars goes to overhead costs. Assuming the same scale, 1109 becomes profit. about 9.24 per hour. 2 dollars per hour goes to the company, seems fucking fair to me nigger
also this was based on my old college campus, which the subway was in the middle of the campus and all the other foodplaces were half a mile away.Go to any regular subways and don't be surprised that they have only two people running it all day and they end up selling less than a 100 sandwiches a day.
>>71673202
>Bartenders get money mostly for their looks
Look who's never been to an actual bar.
>>71669017
>$7.25
Don't forget the payroll tax the employer has to pay for the luxury having an employee to begin with.
>>71673252
MUH MONEY
fucking kike lmao
>>71673145
You have to work to survive. Welcome to the reality that every one of your ancestors down to the first single-celled organisms had to deal with.
>>71673411
Poor things.
>>71673148
>There is literally nothing stopping anyone from opening their own sandwich shop.
There is though, its called government and regulation. The ironic thing is that Bernfags want more of it
What they don't realize is that they are useful idiots and that big corporation loves laws and bureaucracy that makes it harder to start a company and sell your own shit because that kills the competition.
>>71673145
Not true, because if that were the case, there'd be a quarter million Milwaukee niggers who have NEVER worked a day in their lives who would be homeless and starving instead of living free and getting fat as fuck. You're inferring that people only have one job to choose from and that this magical only job must then lift the standards to meet the expectations of the lazy fuck who isn't capable of looking for work anywhere else so that said lazy fuck can live the way they'd LIKE instead of the way they SHOULD.
YOUR problem is that you think business exists for the employee instead of that business exists for the customer. Once you can get your head out of your ass regarding this issue, you will hopefully start to see the light.
>>71669432
This.
People don't understand the purpose of capitalism
>>71673320
what do you mean his due? if you are making a sandwich you deserve at most a dollar an hour because you're fucking retarded.
>>71673463
If you have to do it, it's not a choice.
>>71673386
>Look who's never been to an actual bar.
Sorry, i can't see you through the internet.
>>71671621
American taxes are crazy low and $15 isnt much. Where does all the money go? How can business owner not reach profitabillity if salaries go above your current min salary, $7,5
>>71673603
That's your opinion and it is a shit one. You deserve the cum on your burgers.
Why does /pol/ get triggered when someone points out the flaws of Capitalism?
>>71673180
I work for myself, faggot, haven't lifted a finger under anyone else's business in 20 years.
Rather, it's the annoying fantasyland socialistfags like yourself that make my days hard, because I have to keep firing people like you when you're too retarded to understand my purpose is to take care of my customers while providing you with a base workable income that YOU agreed to in the fucking first place, right before you decide that it's not enough and you feel you deserve more while doing a shitty job.
I'm looking forward to selling in the next year or two so I don't have to deal with faggots who think like you, you're a fucking cancer to society because you're lazy, ignorant and entitled and far too smug about all those factors.
>>71672302
He would most likely tax the rich more and keep current tax levels for poorfags.
>>71669017
>>employee makes fifty $5 sandwiches in an hour
>>is only entitled to $7.25 an hour
Time vs. money. It doesn't take that fucking long to make a sandwich. Doesn't matter how many you make.
>>71673772
>people will have to work hard, possibly multiple jobs just to survive if they can only work unskilled jobs
Failing to see a flaw here.
>>71673772
/pol/ is full of blue-pilled faggots at the end of the day. It's really pathetic seeing them spout platitudes they're trained to spout.
>>71669314
I worked at subway for 3 years while going to school. Started at min wage but by the time I quit I was making $13/hour. I was the shift supervisor/PiC when I left.
>>71669017
Why even work for someone else. If business is so easy, why don't more people open their own stores?
>Accept a job where you get paid 7.25 an hour.
>get paid 7.25 an hour
>WOOOOOOOOOOW
>>71673536
There are independently owned sandwich shops all over north america. You need a business license, a commercial lease, and a few health & safety certifications.
You are incorrect in saying that the government regulation exists to somehow screw the common man. I could open up a sandwich shop tomorrow and nobody would try to impede me.
I operate my own business and it took me only a few phone calls to register and get set up as a masonry contractor, literally the only hassle is tax season but it's not that bad.
The only roadblock most people have is the inability to save up startup capitol, because it costs money to operate your own business and you'll need to buy materials, tools, insurance, etc.
>>71669017
he don't pay any of the ingredients, literally anyone can put some ingredients together
>>71669017
Because part of the cost comes from the workers who grew the ingredients,
then those who put them into their form for cooking,
then those who transport it to the sandwich maker at some chain.
The Sandwich Maker themselves are only contributing minimal effort into producing the sandwich, they get paid what they actually do: put the pieces in order and maybe cook them for a couple minutes.
Nice b8 though, unless you're a genuine retard.
My money is on b8
>>71673635
>american taxes are crazy low
>government takes a third of what you make at entry level then skyrockets from there
Earn your own fucking keep instead of expecting "the rich" aka lower-level shopbuilders to fund your luxuries out of their own investment resources. Socialism is like baking tomorrow's seeds into bread today out of a distaste for farming.
>>71669017
That's actually about right. Employees wages tend to account for between 2-5% of total company revenue.
Learn how companies work. Also, learn how to play the game of life. I bet you won't have these odd opinions anymore.
>>71671357
Honestly this is probably the best. If they want $15/hrs then most the jobs going to be cut. They'll probably only have maybe 2-3 people in the kitchen making the stuff. Rest be replaced by a robot that can do the job of cashier faster.
>>71674178
Yeah its not that bad, i am just saying that you can't just open a window, hang out a sign, sell som sandwiches and then pocket all the money.
>>71671389
Why does it belong to you?
Where do you get the bread from? Did you make it?
How about the wheat for the bread? Did you grow it?
And if you want to make 5 dollars a sandwich, you'll have to take the approximate amount it cost you to get each ingredient and throw $5 on top of that.
So let's say at $5 * 50 sandwiches an hour, you want to make $250 an hour.
Then lets see how much it costs you to keep your shop open for an hour, how much it costs to get the ingredients for one sandwich and hash this out.
Come on OP, do the math, we believe in you
>>71669017
>>71674178
Also this.
People are lazy as fuck. As an entrepreneur (I own a development company), 99% of people need a whip master telling them when to work. They don't have what it takes to buckle down on their own and get shit down without having to be accountable to anyone else except themselves.
Incorporating, setting up structure, and getting set up takes a week at the most for most kinds of businesses unless you've got a really big up front capital outlay and need to staff up (can take months).
>>71674178
>You need a business license, a commercial lease, and a few health & safety certifications.
tell me how much these cost and how long it takes you to get them where you live
>>71669017
>He believes that labor has value independent of what someone is willing to pay for it.
>>71673772
>Why does /pol/ get triggered when someone points out the flaws of Capitalism?
Because capitalism has no flaws.
If you're worried about money maybe you shoukdnt be making sandwiches for a living
These threads are really easy to pick out the people who have never worked in a position above entry level.
You are being paid for you labor. The customer is paying for all the labor from the farm to the store that you work at so they can have a sandwich. It's pretty simple.
>>71673772
We get triggered at the ignorance of how things actually work. The false presumption. Does capitalism have flaws? Sure. But it is quite objectively and quantifiably the best socio-economic system humans have come up with to date.
>>71669017
If this is the case, then go get a business license and make 50 five dollar sandwiches an hour and BOOM, profit.
fuggin fgt.
>responding to a shitty troll
You fucking tards deserve to work at subway for min wage
>>71669017
>employee makes fifty $5 sandwiches in an hour
>is only entitled to $7.25 an hour
Ha, this is the same experiment my class did in high school when learning about Communism
>need to fold paper
>slow speed at first, folds are good
>every few minutes required to make more
>eventually going fast making dozens of folds, but they're all shitty
>people who make a lot are equal to those who make a few
I think people underestimate the difficulty of some fast food establishments. It all depends on location. I feel really bad for some employees only making minimum wage and the location is right off a busy highway/interstate. I'll guarantee they don't get any breaks and are probably busting major ass on the food line making sandwiches at light speed.
Now if you are in some shitty area and only get 5-10 customers an hour, then yeah that shit is piss easy.
>>71672868
>But then he's accountable to that person and giving what that person is due is bad, right?
NOPE
Thus, OP proved he was a fucking faggot once again.
The store owner only owes that person what they value their work as. So if I think about hiring someone, I'll only hire them so long as I make more money hiring them than I lose paying them. So, in this country, because unskilled labor is so abundant, all those workers are constantly trying to convince the store-owner to hire THEM over the other guys, the best case they can make for themselves is that they are a cheaper hire. However, due to minimum wage, there is only so little a person can push their labor-worth to. Hence, the store owner pays someone $7.25 an hour because that person would not have access to any tools or credentials to make a sandwich at all, meaning they would get no money for it. They are paid as much as the owner is willing to pay for them.
This isn't hard, just think about how much you'd be willing to pay for someone to do something. Imagine if the difference in cost between you making a sandwich yourself and them making it for you was $7 (2 for the business profit, 5 for the maker). For every sandwich, you'd just make it yourself.
>>71669017
Get a job that isn't suited for a teenager.
>>71674638
Very true. I have a lot of friends still working construction who hate their jobs and when I suggest opening their own outfit all I hear is "yeah but it's a hassle, man."
>>71674651
Where I live the license is dirt cheap, less than $100 to apply and it can take a MAXIMUM of two weeks to be approved although it took like 24hrs for me.
Then depending on your business you may need some certifications for health or safety, I didn't need any so I don't know the exact price but it's pretty cheap.
Then you will need commercial insurance which is also reasonable, I just bundled it with my home and car insurance.
All in all you can get started for a few hundred bucks, not counting materials or a commercial lease which may or may not be optional. I don't need an office I just needed a big truck and enough money to float materials for a month or two.
It's pretty easy bro and you can do all this stuff at your own pace.
>>71671228
money is not a natural trade off for work, it's a man made concept and is very subjective
there is nobody on earth who works hard enough to earn 1000s a day if there are also kids who work 12 hours a day and get <100 a year
that's why saying "you aren't entitled to any money unless you work" is retarded, there is no scale of work and money
>>71674964
>crybabying about a shitpost getting replies
Post a real thread if you've got one, shut your whore mouth if you don't.
>>71674178 >>71674511 >>71674638 >>71674651
Explain how all the Mexicans that sell food on sidewalks?
LA has a law that is supposed to keep people from doing that, but no one is every charged.
Or all the food trucks? Do they ever get questioned or have to have a health rating?
>>71674964
Even if it is shitty, it's gives you a chance to destroy people IRL, because you know Libtards will use this same excuse
>>71675317
>there is nobody on earth who works hard enough to earn 1000s a day
Some people legitimately work thousands of times harder than certain other people.
Minimums and maximums are both war against the producers of prosperity. Producers entering the market will be nuked on both sides while the cronyist elite will loophole their way out of obeying laws.
>>71674173
>don't accept a job
>starve to death
>WOOOOOOOW
some people have to work low skilled jobs, it's just common decency to ensure they can purchase basic food, utilities and shelter.
>>71675541
I don't know about CA law but I would assume they are illegally operating an unlicensed small business that flies under the radar due to lack of manpower and likely high costs of enforcement for essentially small potatoes.
Hell, lots of fly by night contractors operate in my province but I prefer to not risk getting ASSFUCKED by Revenue Canada one day, because they will get you eventually.
>>71675724
Western proles have smartphones, spinning rims, and gourmet meals cooked by expensive chefs.
Don't earn your way into a bottom-tier job if you don't want a bottom-tier living. Anglo countries' "poor" people live better than the rich of a few hundred years ago.
>>71674975
Or big cities. Though those places have enough workers or are overstaffed.
A McDonalds near me off the highway takes forever, even with no other customers and five or six in the kitchen. Unless food at McDonalds is just slow to make.
>>71675922
For how strict California is with their food laws and laws in general, you think they would crack down on those people.
Hell, San Francisco is one of the most uptight cities in the US, yet bums are free to harass, roam, and shit where ever they like.
>>71669017
No one makes 50 sandwiches in an hour stop over exaggerating
>>71676290
>attempting to correct radleft's bullshit analogies
administering medicine to the dead.
>>71675677
no they don't, nobody works 1000 times more than anybody else that's a ridiculous statement only a 15 year old who's never had a job would consider saying
the vast majority of middle and upper chain workers do not work as hard as most service/lower chain workers, they sometimes work hard to get to that position, but the money they get does not reflect the work output or usefulness of the people involved to any sort of degree
>>71676059
This, if you meant it the way I read it.
Being monetarily rich today doesn't mean much. I know some pretty wealthy people. Money isn't important to them. Time is. They're willing to spend money on people willing to trade their time for said money so they have the time to live how they want. Possessions are tools, not goals. Relationships are less social and more about leveraging time.
Ever been to a really rich person's superbowl party? Nobody is watching the game unless something amazing happens. Everyone is networking, doing deals, and reciprocating relationships by leveraging each others time and expertise. The hosts, who throw a ton of money into these parties, make a huge return on new relationships, bigger and better deals, and ultimately more time to life with their family and actually do what they want to do.
>>71669017
If the wageslave is being robbed then why doesn't the wageslave start his own sandwich making business and pocket all of the profit instead of complaining that he has a shitty job?
>>71669017
Fixed cost and variable cost
>>71670931
Bait
never worked a shitty minimum wage job in my life. fuck that. I sold dope. made better money and the fringe benefits were bitchin
>>71669017
>>employee makes fifty $5 sandwiches in an hour
>> fifty sandwiches an hour
Why should his employer pay to support his meth habit?
>>71673368
Seems so unprofitable. Why would the happy merchants do this?
>>71676669
Because starting a restaurant probably costs atleast 100k and he doesnt have that much money, nor will a bank every give him that kind of a loan
>>71669017
>the food doesn't cost money
>the building is free and maintained for free
>no insurance
>>71676072
Nah Mcdonalds is designed to be fast, its just people that work there are generally retarded or just don't give a fuck.
>Buns slide into heater pop out onto the line with the paper
>Trigger Canisters with the condiments needed for the sandwiches
>Throw the correct veggies on it with a slice of cheese
>grab a meat pattie out of the heater trays
>Wrap it up and throw it forward
Takes less than 30 seconds if you aren't a dumbass.
>>71672557
A business owner making 2 more dollars per hour than a worker? Bs.
>>71669017
Did the employee buy the ingredients for the sandwiches? No?
That's why dumbshit
>>71676867
Because those numbers are fucked. Those numbers give 5 employee-minutes per sandwich - it's way less in reality in peak periods.
>>71669017
>if employee quits company has no problem finding someone else willing to do the same job for the same pay
Apparently that's what the labor is worth.
>>71669017
If someone can do your job for less than you're paid to do it, you're not 'entitled' to anything.
>>71669017
>Can wageslaves make sense of this?
Yes it's called an unskilled job and it was never meant to pay a "living wage" whatever that means.
>>71676059
advances in technology are irrelevant, what people did years ago is irrelevant
if people are spending their wages on luxuries then complaining about not having money for food, that's wrong, but if you think you can live on minimum wage you're a sheltered little faggot, hundreds of thousands of people have to work as low skilled, minimum wage paid workers, it's just common decency to see they're comfortably surviving.
>>71676944
>Because starting a restaurant probably costs atleast 100k
Oh spare me. It does NOT cost 100k to open a sandwich vendor.
>>71677774
Addendum: I live in Europe where we get taxed and regulated to death, and even I could open a sandwich vendor for under 100k.
>>71673412
Yeah. MY money. Not yours.
>>71676944
The dumbfucks probably have just as much in student debt and a Liberal Arts degree
>>71672013
>>Seed
>Water and fertilizer
>Equipment and maintenance
>Housing
>Food
>Clothing
>Transportation for goods
>Security
Here's a thought for you. Let's add on a "Living Wage" to the end of your list.
Socialism! Communist scum, hurrrrr
pic related, you
>>71670614
This.
>OP
>no skills
>sandwich artist
>faggot
>crybaby
>>71674611
Good job at making your block of text so unappealing that i read every panel except for the one that contained the point you wanted to convey.
>>71676615
>no they don't, nobody works 1000 times more than anybody else
compare a waiter to a entrepreneur
one takes plates out
the other has to work to get their businessmen running
>>71678677
literal 15 year old detected
