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>Guns are for stopping tyranny When will this meme end?
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>Guns are for stopping tyranny

When will this meme end?

Weimar Germany had a communist, anti-fascist militia, well armed and over 100,000 men strong, made up in large parts of combat experienced WWI front fighters. Didn't stop the tyranny. For scale, Weimar Germany had a population of about 63,000,000. Compared with today's 300,000,000 Americans you'd need more than 500,000 members to reach a similar size.
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>>71659599

>Most young people avoid guns

What is most?
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>>71659599
>>Guns are for stopping tyranny
A Republic only works with an armed population.
The government should fear the people, otherwise it's back to serfdom
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>>71659685
>What is most?
more than 50% last I checked.

Dipshit.
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>>71659599
You realize the commies and anti fascist's were the Tyranny Leaf? Hitler and NatSoc rose as a direct cause because they tried their little communist revolution that killed a bunch of Germans.
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>>71659803
That worked out so well for Germany...oh wait
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>>71659828

That's it?
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>>71659599
It's a good thing "rights" are not subject to the whims of the mobbish majority.
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>>71659599
Fuck off leaf
>fewer hunters
Duh you dumb bitch most people live in cities nowadays and this trend is growning

>young people avoid guns
Dumb bitch I own two and am 19
Kids love to play with you guns
>women
So fucking what
>democrats
So pussies are afraid to own guns color me shocked
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>>71659853
Anti-fascist is literally anti tyranny by definition.
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>>71659599

Wut, are you forgetting the SA that actually had all the soldiers in it and won?
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>>71659599

Since you want to bring up the example of Wiemar Germany, the friekorps, which was an armed militia of WW1 veterans succeeded in stopping tyranny in the form of a communist coup headed by kikes. So yes, guns do stop tyranny.
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>>71659828
Provide a statistic and stop being an anti-gun faggot. The majority of gun owners, who own a gun, and didn't get it through illegal means, don't kill peope.
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>>71659929

Not to mention that image only tries to marginalize gun owners. None of them are mutually exclusive.
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>>71659957
Anti fascist and Fascism both use the same tactics to achieve different goals. Only the end is different.
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>>71659599
Horsey's shit never fails to trigger me
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>>71659599
>I AM SILLY
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Gun control laws have been disappearing at a rapid pace. The media focuses on dumb shit, but in reality, state governments have relaxed gun laws dramatically.
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>>71659599
Come and take it, faggot. Also, daily shit thread.
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>>71659599
>Weimar Germany had a communist, anti-fascist militia, well armed and over 100,000 men strong, made up in large parts of combat experienced WWI front fighters. Didn't stop the tyranny.

What tyranny ?
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>>71660199

>THE FAT WHITE MALE IMAGERY

Every single time. Fucking libshit faggots.
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>>71659857
yes it did
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>>71659599
>pic related all horsey comics in a nutshell
also
>using a horsey comic as a argument
and nice cherry picking retard
>what is Russian Revolution in 1917
>what is American Revolution in 1776
>what is any revolution in history
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>>71660199
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>>71659599
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>Horsey
Fucking dropped.
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>>71659599
>Democrats
>Black man
Where do all of the illegal guns go?
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>>71659599
You are going under the assumption that the German people felt they were living in Tyranny.
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>>71660013
Friekorps were a bunch of racist, anti-semitic war criminals. Many of their members later became nazis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps
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>>71659599
Faggot leafs...
this is why the maple-mean won't end.
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>>71659599

The Freikorps stopped the Communist Revolutionaries. Fire arms are the essence of democracy, as they insure the majority will cannot be ignored for too long.
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>record sales every single year
>GUN OWNERSHIP IS GOING DOWN!

No, it's just that when people are asked about their gun ownership, they are more secretive about it, now.
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>>71660717
Most people didn't support the nazis. They never had the majority of popular votes. There was significant resistance against them within Germany itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roter_Frontk%C3%A4mpferbund
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance

Even Hermann Goering said after the war:
>Naturally, the common people don't want war. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along in a fascist dictatorship. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.
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>>71659957
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>>71660807
>implying they did it for democracy
The people wanted to overthrow the corrupt and rotten German establishment for a better life for the people.

Freikorps were German terrorists who wanted to scapegoat Jews/communists for making them lose the war and took out their anger by murdering people. They are scum.
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>>71661002
So what that tells me is, all those blokes you said that had the guns..all those vets...They were on Hitlers side. so YAY GUNS WIN AGAIN!!! Vs not having guns you see.
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>Guns are for stopping tyranny
But they are, among other things. Good luck trying to stop some foreign tyrant from taking over without guns.
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>>71661282
The Freikorps established after the Communists tried to overthrow the weak government and create a german communist state in 1919.
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>>71659803
>government has access to unmanned drones, fucking photon canons, tanks, and an advanced Air Force
>muh automatic pebble shooter will prevent tyranny
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>>71661669
>angry at their sudden, apparently inexplicable defeat, joined up in an effort to put down communist uprisings, such as the Spartacist uprising, or exact some form of revenge.

They were also anti-semitic and wanted to blame jews for losing the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth
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>>71659599

Actually it did. The bolsheviks after WWI tried to fuck with Germany and they killed them all off with ease.
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And most gun-owners are law-abiding.

So most gun owners will give up their guns for lawful reasons.

Hah.
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>>71662106
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth

Which has nothing to do with their fight against armed communist forces.
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>you should not own a gun because it's not popular to do so

Fucking sheep
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>71659599
Ah hah hah. It fucking won't.
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>>71659599
shut the fuck up canada. yo0u keep up this faggotry we will invaded and burn your shit to the ground

if you dont think we would ask mexico what happens when they refuse basic demands made by the US government.
murica turned some of their kids into ash and forced their government to blame the cartels
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>>71659599
Weimar militias voluntarily disarmed for Hitler, you absolute retard. We never will.
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>>71661717
We can outnumber the entire military 15 to 1 if just 5% of the population rises up. If you throw in the number of soldiers that will defect (easily 1/3), it is an easy win for the people.
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>>71662806
You're totally right, that's why we're still under British rule.
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>>71660735
What do their views have to do with the fact that they were successful?
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>>71661717
>What is Vietnam?
>What is Chechen Wars?
>What is Iraqi Freedom?
ffs you don't need state of the art technology to beat someone when you would outnumber them like 15 to 1
Also home turf advantage... as in soldiers would be deployed to parts of the country they never lived in fyi
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>>71659599
Germany never experienced tyranny back then. What are you talking about
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>>71663601
The Russians won the Chechen wars though, purely because they treated the terrorists as an enemy army and bombed the ever loving fuck out of them
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>>71660717
I didn't ask for these feels Anon
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>>71659599
>Canada
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>>71662806
Wut....
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>>71663692
Which is the complete opposite of the scenario that Leaf is thinking about. Now imagine that same russian army trying to fight the russian population...
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>>71663692
>won the Chechen wars though
Not the first one.
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>>71659599
>Canadian flag
Hard to take you seriously with your 10 round mag limit
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>>71661717
>government has access to state of the art equipment.
>tanks and APCS
>Planes, helicopters, gun ships, missiles.
>little Vietnamese man with a AK47 thinks he can stop them
Oh...wait.....
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>>71659599
Exactly why do you care?
Gun nuts aren't the ones who kill people.
The ones who kill people are either spics, or niggers.
They source their guns illegally, through the cartels.

The "mass shootings" are a symptom of a serious psychological problem gripping society and blaming them on guns just shows you don't give a fuck about people who are suffering.

Also, pic related.
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>>71663692
>kill more civilians than the terrorists
>victory
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>>71664114
>civilian
>muslim
U wot m8
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>>71663218
That was the joke, anon.
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>>71664114
>Terrorist supporting muslims
>Civilian
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>>71659599
>you'd need more than 500,000 members
there are approximately 3 million militia-ready men in the united states, right now, today, and there are 10 million sympathetic who can be ready in approximately one week.
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>>71659599

>didn't stop the tyranny

You never know until you try you fucking cuck.
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>>71664291
there are also 2,254 ATF field agents, as of last count.

and the FBI is capable of mustering only 110 HRT agents in a day's notice.

would you like to know more?
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>>71659599
Yes it's delusional, but so is the idea of banning guns in America.

Thankfully for Americans their attitudes towards tyranny and government oppression is very different from their rhetoric, so they will never found out how totally outmatched they would be by a modern military.
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Be silent hat.
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>>71662806

COME ON IT'S 1776 PEOPLE, WHY WOULD YOU NEED A MUSKET? DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK YOU STAND A CHANCE AGAINST THE BRITISH EMPIRE?
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>>71661717
see
>>71660472


Stop being a fucking moron. The government isn't going to hellfire its own infrastructure and risk turning even more people against them. What part of this is so hard to understand?

The majority of the military might we have would be completely useless against homegrown insurrection.
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>>71664077

>Gun nuts aren't the one ones who kill people

BUT SINCE CRIMINALS DON'T LISTEN TO MY GREAT IDEAS THESE LAW ABIDING SHEEPLE GUN NUTS HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM BECAUSE IT'S THE LAW
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>>71662945
Last time I checked, /k/ said it's close to 98%.
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>>71664445
[Desire to know more intensifies]
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http://americangunfacts.com/
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>>71663316
Well if their views aren't necessarily agreeable to the leaf then that means he can ignore that argument and still be right :^)
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>>71664840
morris dees had an informant in elohim city.

he failed to provide law enforcement with valuable information that might have prevented the oklahoma city bombing.
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>>71659599
>mfw raised in south
>mfw taught how to hunt and live off land
>mfw 20 years old
>mfw woman
>mfw moderate
>mfw Horsey is a faggot that calls himself Horsey and makes fun of Republicans to feel better about his teeny lib weeny
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Bernie supporter, young person, and gun owner here. When I go to the range, I see mostly young folks like myself. Of the women I see, most are younger.
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>>71664702
I also love how they just assume every soldier will be more than happy to fire on the civilian populace, I wouldn't be surprised if entire companies turned against the government if it went tyrannical and fought for the people.
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>>71664520
>so they will never found out how totally outmatched they would be by a modern military.
Yeah, because half of the military would defect on the first day.
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>>71659599
Surely it would be better to teach young people about guns and give them experience with guns so they know how to use and maintain them safely
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>>71659599

Anti-gun fags REFUTE THIS
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>>71659857
They didn't have guns tho
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>>71659599
>leafs thinking they have freedom
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>>71665285

I would replace gun control with gun confiscation. Gun control isn't necessarily giving all the power to the elite.

I hate gun control in all forms. I am just saying...
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>>71659857
hitler was against gun ownership retard
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>>71664520
>so they will never found out how totally outmatched they would be by a modern military.


Which part? The majority of the modern military that would defect? The part that would walk off base with as much hardware as they could? The part that would use it as an opportunity to shoot the fucks that made the military the shitshow it is now?

Come on and elucidate, since you're apparently well versed on the inner workings of the US military.
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>>71660290

Nice graph.
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So sick of these leaf faggots shilling for human rights abuse. That's what disarmament is, leaf.
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Its funny how everytime libtards talk about Gun control their examples are iether the artificial " angry white men " in that stupid cartoon or gang shootings while they totally seem to forget that its a Nigger/Spic thing.

German " muh evil Guns " Leftist are always demolished when you show the Switzerland and the guns laws there while the Country isnt filled with illegal gun crimes.
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>>71665057
dits blease :-DDD
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>>71665544
that's the biggest thing I don't get
gun grabbers make fun of gun nuts saying that there's no way they'd beat the military while unironically thinking the military is an unthinking machine and that all the individual soldiers aren't the type to be gun nuts even though that's literally their job
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>>71659599
Shut the fucking'fuck up faggot! you're making us all look like fucking morons!
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>>71661282

So you don't care about democracy. You care more about your ideals, and want to force those on the majority.

I see no reason to argue with you.
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>>71660290
This.
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>>71659599
>jews trying to rewrite history so their coup attempt isn't seen as the catalyst for Jewish hatred it was
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>/pol/ still believes in the If everyone had a gun, mass shootings will no longer happen meme.
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>>71665889
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
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>>71666167
>mass shootings are a gun problem
Kill yourself you dumb cunt.
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>>71664291
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>>71659599

>Weimar Germany had a communist, anti-fascist militia, well armed and over 100,000 men strong, made up in large parts of combat experienced WWI front fighters.

So much bullshit in one sentence is actually pretty amazing to see. Great bait tbqh
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>>71659599
>Canadian ass hurt and inferiority complex

Never seen this before.
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>>71666219
This is true. Australia had 30 people murdered in a toenail clipper attack last year
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>>71667334
Its a mental health problem. Not a gun problem. Don't be stupid.
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>>71667334
>implying you don't have tribes of mass murdering cannibal abbos.
A cop from the northern territory told his story.
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>>71666494

damn that is scary
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>>71659599

Communists tend to be shit at anything they do. They also weren't fighting for their country, they were fighting for their shitty ideology. The Friekorps were fighting for their country and they stopped them.
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>>71667968
Just one thing: Its written " Freikorps " not " Friekorps "....
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>>71659599
The entire US military was unable to stabilize Iraq over a one decade period. I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
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>>71667795
N.C. Is the same way...but it takes 7 years, different states have different laws.
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>>71664565
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>>71665409
>Gun control isn't necessarily giving all the power to the elite.
Yes it is. It objectively is, unless you also disarm the military and the police.
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>>71668363
Hey leaf
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>>71668269

My apologies, Krautbro.
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SHALL
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>>71669245
You are welcome and get some nice american Titties.
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>>71659599
Tranny is just a Y away from tyranny.
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>>71669345
NOT
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>>71669643
And my ID is just a 'S' away from Gypsy

>>71670045
BE
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>>71669345
NOT
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>>71666007
The states with firearm freedom acts are like 10% of the population though
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>>71659599
>muh Weimar commie rebels!
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>>71659599
All I hear from people in the states is, "I'm looking for a gun what should be my first choice." Maybe the fact that guns have become harder to track, and people are more reluctant to inform others about their firearms ownership is the reason that there appears to be less owners. But there I go talking crazy again.
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>gun control fags
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>>71664520

modern militaries are made of glass.

if their logistics, command and control, and technical staff cease to operate at full effectiveness, from a safe home territory... the combat capabilities of a modern military drop to below the level of a bunch of angry rednecks.
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>>71664445
>and the FBI is capable of mustering only 110 HRT agents in a day's notice

fucking tranny faggots are slow as shit
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>>71671848
Burn their fuel, eat their food, steal their xbox live accounts
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>>71672238

i was thinking more along the lines of take down the power grids in all major metropolitan areas at once, blow bridges and rail ways, and then just wait.

>>71672037

HRT is tier fucking one, bruh. but 110 of them aint worth shit on a shingle.
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>>71659599
Oh it's this leaf again. How are you man ?
Ready to flee like you did on the Obama thread last night ?
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>>71672988
You forgot to give them a reason to enter the black box. Then again blowing infrastructure and lying in ambush for repair crews and emergency services is bait enough to force their involvement
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>>71665487
No he wasn't

He actually made it easier for Germans to own guns
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>>71673913
>>the black box

huh?

repair crews and emergency servicemen wouldn't be doing shit except protecting their families from rioters and looters, just like whatever resources any form of government has left would be.

i don't think people understand that it takes about 6000 people to fly a single fighter or drone.
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>>71665179
>companies
Try entire divisions. Many generals already have issues with the people they have to take orders from.
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>>71674295
I mean, in numbers I can imagine the equivalent of total divisions defecting, and hell I believe entire battalions would defect too, but getting up to division I think you can find a handful of men who would stay loyal to the government because they're only there to suck from the teat of the taxpayers.
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>>71674144
>it takes about 6000 people to fly a single fighter or drone.
Fucking [Citation Needed]
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>>71665797
>gang shootings

The FBI released “Crime in the U.S., 2014,” a report that includes (among other stats) all incidents of gun violence known to law enforcement (except in Florida and Alabama, states that chose not to share that particular information). On “Expanded Homicide Data Table 11, Murder Circumstances by Weapon Type”, we see that the most common known circumstance for gun homicide is “arguments.” The number of people shot to death in arguments not during the commission of a felony (1,759) dwarfs the number shot to death in gang violence (667) and the number shot to death in drug trafficking (298)— combined. These are arguments over things like radio-controlled-car races, candy, inheritance of a tractor and road rage.

So it's actually the arguments with a gun nearby, stupid!
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>>71659599
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>>71670786
Actually, I was talking about these guys:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roter_Frontk%C3%A4mpferbund
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>>71675235

if you can prove you even understand what you're asking, i'll spell it out for you.

>>hurr no it doesn't, most planes are flown by either one or two pilots, it doesn't take 6000 people, what are you fucking dumb

an F-14 requires between 10 and 40 hours of maintenance for every hour of flight.
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>>71675779
kek
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>>71668363
>The entire US military was unable to stabilize Iraq over a one decade period

And that's with the entire western world turning a blind eye to us dropping MOABs left and right.

Imagine if half the countries that sell us war supplies, and half the US companies that make war supplies were like "WHOA WTF PENTAGON?!" and refused to sell anything to the government. It would be extremely hard to keep any legitimacy in geopolitics. "yea we JDAM'd that preschool because uh.....white guys like guns too much"

Also, for the US gov to stand any chance against rebels, they'll need to pull out troops from EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY WE'RE IN. Which means giving up control over large swathes of the globe, while also bailing on all the Euro/Asia countries we're currently protecting. I'm sure Europe will be thrilled when Putin invades and the official WH response is "we had to stop the small-dicked rednecks from owning scary black rifles"
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>>71675901
And no, it doesn't require anywhere close to 60 people let alone 6000 to fly a fucking drone. Your hyperbole is shit and you seem to be doubling down on your stupidity.

Why did you feel the need to exaggerate the number to such an extreme extent? Did you think you wouldn't be able to get your point across without doing so?
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>>71676642

ok, you're an idiot. so lets run through a scenario.

imagine that a pristine, and fueled up F14 is sitting on the runway. you know how to fly it. you get in, take off, blow up some christians, and come back to land. now what? how do you do it again?
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>>71659599
>Most young people avoid guns
>all of my friends fall roughly within the purview of fiscally conservative, socially soft-liberal
>all of us love guns and own at least one/are shopping for one
>my firearm when
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>>71676642
And when the drones break down, as they inevitably will, who fixes them?
Who builds the parts?
Who makes the tools?
Who gets the resources needed to make any of the above?
The resources aren't in one neat pile, they need to be mined/cultivated from various corners of the globe.
Who transports all this shit?

I could go on and on but the point should be pretty clear. It takes a large team of people to effectively use a drone/jet. If any of these start to lag behind or stop, the drones never fly in the first place.
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>>71659599

Roter Frontkämpferbund were little more than a gang of paid street thugs who attacked opposition in the streets. They were basically the SA who wore different uniforms. In fact, disaffected RFB paramilitaries would often join up with the SA or vice versa.

They possessed neither the principal, organization, or the ideological devotion to combatting tyranny to resist the Nazi takeover of Germany.

Frankly, the only forces in Germany that could have ever hoped to combat the Nazis effectively were the Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold and the regular German police, both of whom were simply too small to put up much of a fight.
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>>71661002

Fake quotes are always fake but real Jew is always you.
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>>71677273
Hell even a lot of my liberal friends that talk about muh 15 an hour still don't believe in gun legislation.

Perks of living out west, I guess. Our fathers actually take us hunting, shooting, and camping when we're kids so we aren't deathly afraid of guns.
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>>71659599
Also

>Texan Revolution
>2,000 Texian rebels, badly underarmed, composed of a multitude of ethnic groups among whom friction is commonplace
>6-8,000 professional Mexican Army troops
>Texans throw the Mexicans out at the loss of less than 700 (mostly dead from the Alamo or 400 prisoners murdered at Goliad, their bodies piled high and burnt Treblinka-style)
>Mexicans suffer over 2,000 dead and their defeat causes the fall of Santa Anna's government

Never say Never OP
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>>71679400
They shouldn't have taken any prisoners at San Jacinto. They should've slaughtered every one of those dirty spics as they begged for mercy. They should've made them dig their own graves and then bayoneted them all.

That they did not is a sign of the sheer moral superiority of the Anglo over the Mestizo.
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>>71659599
Puts black man as democrat

Yeah, little niglets on the street don't have guns.

...Riiiiiight. OP, just because it ain't registered, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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>>71677712
yep.

the modern military is made of glass. if even very small parts in the chain of technical skill, command/control, and logistics breaks, everything breaks.
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I have to post this way too much

And who the fuck takes Horsey seriously?
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>>71659803
>A Republic only works with an armed population.


lol what a load of shit. What about the republics in Europe? What about the Republic of San Marino, the oldest republic in the world?
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>>71659599
>Weimar Germany had a communist, anti-fascist militia, well armed and over 100,000 men strong

Wasn't the SA 1 million strong? Doesn't that show that militias work, since the Nazis got into power?
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>>71659599

Thinking that we couldn't muster 10 million, let alone 500k
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>>71681200
>What about the republics in Europe?
Look at them.

How much power do the people actually have?
Germany is being fucked by it's own government, and so are most European countries.
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>>71659929
>most womyn don't buy gun!!!11!!
women are the fast growing demographic for owning handguns.
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>>71659599
I AM SILLY
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>>71681651
Men already own guns, so there's literally no other demographic to grow

Just like vidya games
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>>71679400
Did you know that one reason that led to the supposed revolution was that the white Texan ranchers wanted to keep using slaves because it had become outlawed in Mexico? Just something to think about the next time you watch the Alamo with John Wayne
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>>71681200
>San Marino,
>one of the freest, least restrictive gun laws in the world
If you are going to drink and post at least be right.
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>>71681938
It isn't just that it is the fact that they are realizing that they can stop their own rape or robbery instead of just taking it.
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>>71666007
Please Tennesee, give your northren brethren a nudge.
t. S.E. Kentucky resident
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>>71659599
>Horsey
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>>71681022
>>71681047
>>71681063
>>71681097
>>71681113

saved and erection.
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>>71667334
MEANWHILE, in reality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GPPxGX8pdA

You're sitting on a ticking time bomb, Ozzie bro.
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>>71659599
Isn't gun ownership at an all time high right now?
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>>71684302
Yep, even as violent crime is at historic lows
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>>71677273
>Have liberal friends
>Disagree with them over Bernie's policies
>We fully agree on the right to own guns, and don't want more laws.
Feels gud. I hope this trend continues.
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>>71684428
Here's one I use to BTFO Salt weapon bans.
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>>71684702
I like this one better
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>>71661717
The amount of very loyal security forces with arms that any government posesses is laughably low. I know because I served in the biggerst military arsenal in the country. Literally a hundred determined men could take over an arsenal with 1.8 million AKs, multiple tanks, IFVs and a couple billion bullets of every caliber within an hour if they only have 1 insider.
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