What is an assault weapon and why should we ban them?
>>71643132
Assault weapon is a myth and liberals want to ban any guns that could be effectively used against them in urban warfare when they finally get their chance to declare marshall law.
An """"Assault"""" rifle is a weapon ready for fully automatic, which civilians cant own (non military, non police)
It's a liberal lie. an ar15 is no different than a traditional style wood and iron SEMI auto gun with a high capacity. Just looks scarier to the libs
If it looks scary, it is scary.
>>71643132
Assault weapon is a made up term for liberals to try and ban scary looking weapons.
An assault rifle on the other hand is any select fire rifle that fires and intermediate caliber
I don't like black stuff.
>>71643802
Well, civilians can own fully automatics but you need tens of thousands of dollars and a metric fuck ton of paperwork.
>auto weapons are banned
>when you use auto weapon to shoot people or whatever crime you will run out of your ammo much faster and miss much more shoots, because its much harder to aim a full auto than a semi auto
>>71644005
I think you need to be a special kind of dealer.
>>71644152
No, just a special tax stamp.
An assault weapon is a relative term for a firearm that has the scariest currently legal feature(s) that are easiest to sway public opinion with. The goalposts are always moving, and will continue to move until you need a license with a 10 year waiting period for a fluorescent orange breech-loading .22 rifle stripped of its iron sights and optics.
>>71644114
>much more shoots
>shoots
>>71644005
the paperwork's not that bad.
remember, the ban on post-'86 manufacture could be rescinded without changing the structure of the NFA. that would drive prices down significantly.
>>71644152
>>71644192
some states offer dealers and police "clubs" a special license while (unconstitutionally) forbidding it to everyone else.
>>71644152
That's for full auto or select fire guns made after a certain date in 1989
>>71643132
An assault weapon is a rifle that looks like the main rifle used by counter terrorists in CS
If you ask liberals, that is
In truth the concept of 'assault weapons' is a lie, like the others said
>>71644774
See, here's how it really is.
AK = terrorist
AR = patriot
Weird Jew gun = Mossad
>>71643132
There's no such thing as an "assault weapon"
an "assault rifle" is a specific type of rifle just like a battle rifle.
It comes from the first "assault rifle" the sturmgewehr 44 (meaning "storm gun") or the earlier model, the MKB. The category of rifle is defined as such by being chambered in an intermediate cartridge such as the 5.56 ,having an adjustable rate of fire (semi-auto/full-auto) and having a replaceable box magazine.
how liberals define an "assault styled weapon" is by it having an adjustable stock, pistol grip, have full auto capabilities and most importantly of all, it has to be BLACK. for the most part this is cosmetic, even full auto capabilities are not necessarily relevant as a shooter could pull the trigger of a semi-auto rapidly and as long as the weapon can cycle as fast it will spit out just as much lead as a full auto, maybe give the shooter carpal tunnel though. These laws are especially idiotically arbitrary in places like California where they are strictest, for example, if you are bubba enough to paint your glorious mosin nagant black, nail on a pistol grip and picatinny rail, and then saw off the stock to attach an adjustable one, even though it is still bolt-action, it is considered an "assault styled weapon".
They should not be banned, you can't uninvent weapons so there will always be a criminal with the best one nigger money can buy, whether that be Jorge from across the border, Jamal across the street or the government across your country.
>>71644996
>There's no such thing as an "assault weapon"
No, you're wrong. If it's for sport then it's perfectly gentlemanly, old chap.
But if it's a potentially dangerous weapon, then you're clearly a serial killer.
>>71644152
Or just find the nearest mexican and give him a blowy
>>71643132
Instead of making new money, shouldn't they solve why so many white people shoot up mass places instead?
But, how is the gun violence up when majority of firearms are/bought by white people?
Must be a coincidence...
>>71645804
One more time in english please?
>>71643132
Because military surplus master race
>>71645804
95% of "Mass Shootings" are gang and drug related, retard.
>But, how is the gun violence up when majority of firearms are/bought by white people?
Gun violence isn't going up, it's going down. Firearm ownership is also going up.
More legally owned guns = Less crime
>>71645804
Most mass shootings are committed by niggers. The media just doesn't report on it.
Sorry faggot, you can't speak about another races gun violence when your nigger race commits more gun violence than all other races combined.
>>71644268
>all that
and be air powered too
>>71643132
OK Faggot let me explain
You ban guns : peoples will do mass stabbing
You ban knife : peoples will do mass crossbow murder
You ban crossbow : peoples will do mass car murder
SO
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
>>71643132
1 anything that looks scary
2 because they hurt my feelings
>>71644286
ironically, some of the biggest opponents to modifying the 86 law are the people with tens of thousands tied up in machine guns.
also if you are a class 3 dealer and have good ties with the local police, you can buy and sell "dealer samples" which sell for normal prices. that's how most of the cool modern shit gets around.
>>71643132
>What is an assault weapon
Any object that is used/can be used to assault someone.
>Why should we ban them
We shouldn't.
>>71644005
sounds pretty much like europe
>>71645258
>potentially dangerous weapon
ALL weapons are potentially dangerous, numbnuts.
This is such a fucking circlejerk. Assault weapon clearly means a semi-automatic rifle, usually chambered in 5.56 or 7.62, and with a large magazine capacity to everyone in the world but gunfags.
And you should outlaw them because it would be fucking hilarious.
>>71648067
Ever see how they figure things out in prison? All anything is a dangerous weapon.
So here's a great idea. How about we turn the whole world into a big, real-life prison, and then we can ban weapons, and then we can wonder why everybody's got weapons and getting raped up and down and the whole thing is run through corruption? Sound like a good idea to you? Maybe a board of lawyers can let you see the light of day (or go to solitary for your own good) in between picking cotton for the Man and eating pig slop that go too old to sell in regulated safe spaces?
>>71648118
they are not even banned in europe
but they are already trying to bann them aswell
they are disarming us, surveilancing us, destroying the culture we have and later destroy the whole continent
A lot more people get killed by medical malpractice than by guns. Why aren't we banning assault doctors with high capacity med kits and surgeon grips?
>>71648533
Well they paid a lot of money to go to doctor school so they could have an official license to be paid to ration/kill you according to government mandate.
Why don't gun owners want to join the in club?
>>71648533
any source?
>>71648321
You're advocating a totalitarian society around the world? Yea good luck with that.
I'll keep my scary assault weapons
>>71648760
The source is from some Facebook meme earlier this year. Nobody actually knows how many people doctors accidentally kill, they don't keep numbers on it.
http://www.snopes.com/doctors-kill-more-people-than-guns/
>>71643132
>assault weapon
It's a dumb term coined by libfags with no knowledge on guns. Presumably they heard assault rifle and thought it was scary, but forgot the rifle part and just said weapon. Even scarier. Say this to any soccer mom or die hard liberal and they'll undoubtedly start an anto gun rant on assault weapons, when any weapon is an "assault" weapon, even unconventional ones. I could kill a man with a rusty butter knife, should we ban butter knives?
>brits beat us to the assault butter knife ban
>>71648829
I don't know, "some people" seem to think it's a good idea. Even the big bad scary gun people I talk to think it's a pretty ridiculous idea.
Maybe it's just that the people I talk to who might not completely agree with me about everything aren't helplessly retarded.
>>71649249
"No people" actually think that's a good idea, faggot.
A good idea would be to make owning an assault weapon a felony, giving you faggots a window to turn them in, and then arresting anyone who gets caught with them afterwards. No need for a roundup, just make you submit willingly or get fucked in the ass.
Madame President Clinton will probably get to it in her second term.
>>71649451
Madame President Clinton is already all about the UN small weapons ban. She's one of the foremost talking heads about having a legitimate monopoly on force.
Maybe that's why she gets such a kick out of ordering the people with guns to go kill each other for nothing while also arming the terrorists they're supposed to be fighting against.
>>71648760
http://journals.lww.com/journalpatientsafety/Fulltext/2013/09000/A_New,_Evidence_based_Estimate_of_Patient_Harms.2.aspx
>>71643132
They were already banned in 1937.
Weak bait 1/10 here have a (You)
>>71643439
>>71643802
This. And they shouldn't be banned. We should also introduce mandatory military service for all citizens.
>>71643132
No such thing and you shouldn't. Next?
>>71643132
You'll be happy to hear that assault weapons are already banned and the finite number remaining are difficult to obtain.
Nigger fists.
>cut them all off
>>71644005
Not actually true. You need a $200 tax stamp and a lot of patience and $... but not tens of thousands of dollars.
Source: I own a no shit AK-47.
>>71644152
Sort of. In addition to being an FFL, you must also pay to be a SOT dealer. Not that big a deal, really.
>>71651319
Pics?
>>71645804
SHALL
>>71647834
kek @ picture
>>71648118
So you want to ban all magazine fed semi automatic rifles
Thats fine but be honest about it. Don't use the label of "assult rifle" to mislead people.
>>71648118
>large magazine capacity
u wot m8?
Please to define "high capacity." If the rifle was designed to use a particular magazine, wouldn't that be regular?
>>71650154
>>71651319
What?
Real ak47's in the ATF machine gun registry are extremely rare and cost $30,000 or so.
You probably own an AKM or some semi auto AK variant.
>>71643132
An "assault weapon" has no definition beyond something that looks scary to anti-gunners.
>>71651319
Sorry bro, no proofs. I live in Nu Yorkistan. Even thinking about owning one would have me in the stony lonesome. But here's a picture of some things I lost in a boat fire.
>>71651944
It is extremely rare and belonged to my uncle who left it to me in a trust. It would have been stupid expensive if I had to actually buy it. Thanks for telling me about AKMs and/or AK variants. Maybe I should learn WTF I'm talking about, right?
>>71652048
If you live in new york with that AK then prepare to have your butthole BTFO in 5mins
>>71650154
Conscription armies perform terribly.
>>71651561
meant for you
>>71652048
>>71652203
Nope, it stays here. It's obviously registered with a trust in a different state where it still, *ahem*, lives.
Total gun death(homicides, accidents, suicides) per year in the USA is roughly 30,000. That's 0.009% of the American population.
>>71652433
I see
Yea if you ever brought that into new york you better bring about a gallon of anal lube for the pounding you would recieve
Hurrr durr the guns assault. You can take them from my cold dead hands.
>>71652188
Sure thing, mane
Also, trusts are for NFA items, and I don't think you can own NFA items in New York.
It is always best to learn as much as you can about things, lurk on /k/ for a while.
Make a QTDDTOT (Questions that don't deserve their own thread) thread and ask about good things to read up on about NY gun laws, or anything pertaining to firearms in general.
>>71652563
Most of the "homicides" are nig nogs anyway. Pat attention to the pictures of "homicide victims" in the newspaper and kek at how they are usually mugshots.
>>71652834
You're assuming a law-abiding citizen.
I am painfully aware of NY laws and the "SAFE" act.
Anything else particularly derpy you need to lay on me?
>>71652563
Total alcohol related deaths (Liver Cancer, Drunk driving, alcohol poisoning) per year in the USA is roughly 39,000.
Who gives a flying fuck, you aren't taking away our rights.
>>71653056
Sorry, I'm on your side. I was just trying to point out how statistically insignificant gun deaths are and how gun grabbers are making mountains out of molehills.
>>71643936
>>71643132
Military style weapon designed to be significantly more lethal than a normal rifle or hand gun. They should be banned because in the wrong hands they are capable of killing many more people than their smaller less lethal cousins.
>>71653268
>Sorry, I'm on your side
Sorry, your from Canada. I'm used to you and your commonwealth ILK from UKuck, and ASSTRALIA ripping on our rights. The world can fuck off. The WHOLE world because faggots in other countries add their voice to our liberal democrat faggots and make an echo-chamber bigger than they really are on social media. THE WORLD CAN FUCK OFF, we can take u all on at once, leave our rights alone.
>>71653542
Used to reading Huffington Post, are ya lad?
>>71653542
> Military style weapon
> Designed to be more lethal
So, ban AR-15's but keep Mini-14's? Holy shit your retarded.
>>71653319
w-what was that originally
>>71653041
Well, I wouldn't use your non-NY approved guns for home defense because in the unfortunate event that you do have to use it, theirs a good chance they might charge you for owning an "Illegal Weapon" or hell, even murder or manslaughter depending on how shitty your county is.
If I were you I would save up and move to a free state, NY is lost, Don't go down with a sinking ship.
>>71653542
You haven't really explained what an assault weapon is. You've just changed to a new label. What is military style? What is a normal rifle or handgun?
>>71653542
wew lad this meme again
>>71643132
>What is an assault weapon
whatever the libs and media deem unacceptable for people to have at the moment. usually involves scary black plastic and pistol grips.
>>71653542
holy fuck abort yourself
>>71653935
Thank you, of course not. My neutered AR-15 handles like a sack of dog shit so I have a nice legal 870 I bought at a fun show for $100 a few years ago. If you defend yourself, you're going to have your firearm taken so I figured they are welcome to a beat up trunk gun.
As much as I'd like to move, I have compelling reasons to stay here and live close enough to free America where I have friends who keep the majority of my naughty stuff and I can shoot nearly as often as I'd like.
Sucks but, hey... what are you going to do, start a revolution?
>>71653542
Top tier bait friendo
Assault Weapon - no real definition. It could mean anything.
In California, it means any long gun that has a "detachable magazine" and any of the following "features": pistol grip, foreword grip, collapsible stock, flash hider, or barrel shroud (aka "thing that goes up").
>>71647687
People already do mass car murder
>>71644114
You could argue it kind of makes collateral victims less likely.
>>71654577
In New York it means anything that scares anyone from Manhattan.
>>71655033
Meanwhile, the big anti-gun bankers somehow managed to get those rare concealed carry permits in Manhattan.
Huh.
>>71655033
>ban assault airplanes
>>71655229
Yep, only the rich, famous and connected are covered by the 2A out on the island. The rest of us plebes are left with top quality 1921 technology to defend our meager lives.
>>71643132
They're big, black, and scary looking
>>71655859
Eh, guy I know on the island went and shot a vermin in his yard once when it pissed him off. But he lives in a decent neighborhood where people are nice and don't get bothered by the odd circumstance that doesn't cause any problems.
As for me, I never thought guns would really matter that much for my personal purposes, and I really and truly hope they never do, but it's a little bit nice to know that gun laws are at least allegedly on my side.
>>71649249
>(((some people)))
>>71656223
My wife was in Middletown at the movies the other day when there was a minor chimp out and three choir boys stabbed a Dindu. She used to be able to carry when we lived in free America. Now, well, hope Paul Blart is on his game!
>>71653908
percussion cap muzzle loader
>>71656632
maybe 2 rds per minute three if your really fucking quick
>>71656772
And don't mind a substantial chance of that third load cooking off and cacking the barrel, along with your hand. Sustained rate of fire was much closer to a minute, particularly with flintlocks.
>>71643132
>assault weapon
Is the liberal codeword for all privately owned firearms.
>>71643132
An assault weapon is any fully-automatic weapon with a pistol grip and detachable magazine.
That's it.
>>71657664
What's so assaulty about a pistol grip?
>>71657825
Better recoil and stability control when in full-auto.
>>71657825
It lets you shoot from the hip with laser accuracy like in the movies
Duh did you even watch Rambo?
Gun control faggots don't know anything about the stuff they are trying to ban. They just scream words that mean nothing.
>>71657825
They make Diane Jewstein moist so she knew they must be banned.
>>71654120
I would classify an assault rifle differently from a normal rifle by its ability to be a more effective killing weapon and it's use in the military if applicable.
>>71658251
Shoulder thing that goes up.
>>71658310
You would make an excellent Senator, komrad.
>>71658251
kek, I actually watched a Rambo clip from the other day and he was swinging around two fully automatic pistol grip assault rifles with detachable magazines blowing through all of his ammo like it was nothing.
And all the bad guys were just getting mowed down one right after the other. I don't see what's wrong with this.
>>71658253
>Fienstien
Dont post a picture of that kike. I am from California and it triggers me.
>>71653750
If mini14 is less lethal then yes
>>71658253
Fuck that cunt through all nine circles of hell.
>>71658463
>mfw my phone ruined my gif like Fienstien ruined my ar 15
>>71654426
I thought I would give an honest answer from an opposing view.
A salt weapon :)
Assault weapons are:
>Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
>Folding or telescoping stock
>Pistol grip
>Bayonet mount
>Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
>Grenade launcher mount
>Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
>Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
>Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
>Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
>Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
>A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
>Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
>Folding or telescoping stock
>Pistol grip
>Detachable magazine.
The last assault weapons ban proved very effective in the USA. Gun homicides peaked in the year prior to the assault weapons ban, and then fell by half after the ban was implemented. So clearly there is a significant correlation between gun deaths and banning assault weapons.
>>71658452
>I don't see what's wrong with this.
what, watching a Rambo clip?
>>71658463
>>71658544
Sorry, bruvs.
Maybe this will make up for it.
>>71658593
Assault weapon sales also spiked prior to the ban being lifted and handgun sales have gone up since the ban. In addition, the number of people employed as LEOs has also gone up, as police forces across the country received more funding.
>>71658745
FUCKING
>>71658593
Tell me more, leaf.
>>71658397
Danke schoen
>>71658593
>gun homicides peaked in the year priot to the weapon ban
You are forgetting how people tend to kill eachother with whatever they have. I can assure you the murder rate did not lower. The only reason fucking leaves like you support weapon bans is because the media controls your emotions and opinions. Kill yourselves.
>>71658859
Bitte schoen!
>>71658739
where do they mass-produce that model
(the girl)
I'm moving.
>>71658939
Who gets fucking jump wings as a tattoo? Jesus fuck.
>>71658778
>In addition, the number of people employed as LEOs has also gone up, as police forces across the country received more funding.
Fully justifiable response to the threat of right wing gun nuts who have been stockpiling weapons and ammo for years. Who seem to think the second amendment was designed so that you can shoot and kill people's sons and daughters in the US Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, local police forces, blacks, and Jews when you, and only you, believe they have gone to far.
>>71659059
>>Drunk
>>18
>>VD drive
I'll let you do the math.
>>71659238
I am so glad you aren't in the US
>>71658939
>O negative lifeblood masterrace
>>71643132
>Ban guns
>Have no way to reliably protect yourself because the police aren't obligated to protect you
>>71658583
Rock salt shotgun shells already exist.
>>71659425
The Federal Government is obliged to provide for the common defense.
So of course they crank the boarders wide open, disarm and cuck everything in sight, and fly in more illegal terrorists to fuck everything up. Wow, that's real fukken neato.
>>71658593
Sorry lad but homicides have been trending downward since the early 90s in the US. And it has nothing to do with the ban since the trend started before the ban and continues after it expired.
>>71643132
an assault weapon is any black gun with a shoulder thing that goes up and we should ban them for the sake of the children
>>71658739
fucking roastie ruins it
>>71659682
ABSOLUTELY BTFO
HOW CAN GUN GRABBERS EVER RECOVER
>>71659908
Maybe a nice big cock would be more your speed?
>>71660008
that's some nigger-tier banter anon
>>71659682
I'm talking gun homicides specifically. Gun homicides were increasing and peaking in 1993. It only started to decrease after the assault weapons ban in 1994.
>>71659908
Fffffuuu...
Missed that first time around, sorry boys.
>>71660093
I never understood this roastie shit. Is it just virgins or fags that complain about it?
>>71660098
You do understand that an old lady popping a Dindu trying to allocate resources counts as a homicide, right?
>>71660098
Oh yes because dying by a gun is so much different than dying by a knife or another weapon.
>>71660098
>I'm talking gun homicides specifically
How do you not understand that's the problem?
>>71660208
it's non-tumblrinas that don't like it
>>71660098
>homicide is okay when I do it with a knife
Get it together leaf.
>>71650154
I'd say mandatory firearms training with a view for military service.
>>71643132
SHALL
>>71660453
Hear, hear. Bring back shooting and archery to our schools.
>>71660468
NOT
>>71660468
PROBABLY
>>71660634
ALLOWED
>>71660552
Jolly good show. People will be more responsible and have a better respect for firearms and weapons as a result.
>>71660098
gun deaths by assault weapons have never been a statistically significant figure either before or after the ban
>>71660760
Shaddup. And turn over your knives!
>>71660760
I think schools should teach practical skills. A firearm is a dangerous thing, so it's important to know how to treat it correctly, how to render it less dangerous, what to do etc.
Same with teaching kids how to deal with a fire, or a gas leak, or a water leak, what the laws are (since ignorance of the law is not an acceptable excuse for breaking it). But no. We have to learn tolerance training and global studies.
>>71660921
I'm keeping my leatherman and my axe thank you officer.
>>71661115
Hope you paid your tele tax!
Heyyyyy America.
Time to save some lives.
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/ban-assault-weapons
No email confirmation required.
123,505/125,000 Signatures so far.
Glad to help :^)
>>71661115
kek had a britbong childhood friend. He was eternally outraged that his swiss army knife was summarily confiscated at the border and he wasn't even compensated for it.
White people can't have knives in Unitedstan.
>>71661290
I'm living in straya at the moment. No TV tax for me. Also why would I get a TV licence when I could use the money from that to pay for a better internet connection?
>>71661486
WEW
Why'd he not pack it in his suitcase?
>>71661336
>Christopher Poole from Bongtown, United Kingdom signed this petition on Apr 14, 2016.
>Rooty tooty point and shooties are killing children, ban burgers too!
kek.
>>71661336
Fuck right off, tosser. There's a reason we kicked you snaggle-toothed cucks to the curb a while ago.
>>71661718
I guess he thought he was coming to freedomland or something. This was way before 9/11 when apparently we somehow managed to process immigrants at a border. Very strange.
I assume his mom and dad would have told him the rules beforehand, but maybe they weren't really expecting that kind of treatment either.
>>71661759
like all gun grabber shit this is only something used to virtue signal and doesn't actually do anything to solve any problems.
