[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
What's the deal with Universal Income?
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /pol/ - Politically Incorrect

Thread replies: 20
Thread images: 4
File: 1454721901228.png (192 KB, 348x348) Image search: [Google]
1454721901228.png
192 KB, 348x348
Jesus Christ this Universal Income Bullshit is worse than the fight for 15 shit.
Look at this kike saying that it would work even if 90% of people wouldn't work. http://www.techinsider.io/sam-altman-praises-basic-income-on-freakonomics-podcast-2016-4
Only thing this tells me is that 90% of the people are parasites living off the success of the 10% who are actually working.
Fucking communists
>>
"If we bribe the criminals, they won't kill us"

Insert quote about the danegeld here.
>>
>>71638686
In reality we could possibly live in a post scarcity world millennia from now where nobody has to work like WallE or some shit.

Not gonna happen anytime soon though, only after all the Min Wage cucks get replaced by robots
>>
We are going to have to have something like this when automation comes around
>>
>>71638686
Automatization takes away most physical labour, strong AI makes having humans in intellectual fields and eventually in any jobs save for maintenance and monitoring the AI pointless. That's the situation universal income is needed in.
>>
If you weren't retarded, maybe you'd realize that that's not at all what will happen.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-04-01/a-basic-income-is-smarter-than-minimum-wages
>>
>>71639179

And I suppose the energy to run this shit will just fall out of the sky endlessly?

That path will create humans who no longer need to exist, and godlike AIs that treat us like pets at best.
>>
>>71638686

It's not universal and it's not income?
>>
File: Robot-gestures-011[1].jpg (39 KB, 460x276) Image search: [Google]
Robot-gestures-011[1].jpg
39 KB, 460x276
Why not? Give the masses e.g 1000€ monthly and those who work get more money. Robots do the hard labour.
>>
File: 1419722469410.jpg (579 KB, 1471x1400) Image search: [Google]
1419722469410.jpg
579 KB, 1471x1400
>>71639487
>That path will create humans who no longer need to exist, and godlike AIs that treat us like pets at best.
That's why the only path for humanity to survive and succeed is to transcend humanity and merge with the machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mZZiI4ShQ
>>
>>71639487
>this is what american conservacucks believe

Go to school. You are retarded and that is becouse you started working way too young.
>>
>>71639665

You'll just be rewarding mud people to haven children even more.
>>
>>71639842
Thats why you shouldn't allow them in first place. You were lazy and brought the niggers do the labour for you. Now you pay for it.
>>
>>71639665

this. it does work. there are not enough jobs for everyone to work already. many of the jobs we have are not even necessary. a few people will be lazy, but most won't. people want to accomplish something. scientific understanding would skyrocket.
>>
File: 1459233691934.jpg (134 KB, 803x737) Image search: [Google]
1459233691934.jpg
134 KB, 803x737
world economy is stagnating because people are not spending as much money as before and jews in central banks are getting agitated

the only way for current system to survive is to stop the decline of global trade by giving out money to the people so they'll be more inclined to spend them

it won't work and economy will collapse because countries wouldn't ever be able to pay off their denbts

tl;dr WW3 soon
>>
Basic income is better than minimum wage and if you understood economics you would be supporting it.

A $15 minimum wage will be a big bruise on small businesses. This is undoubtable. It will also raises prices for all businesses which will likely slow down the economy, even if the poor people have more money to spend.

A basic income is perfect. Knowing that their basic living will always be covered, people will be better workers and be more competitive. Everyone will have everything covered, so instead of fighting the government to pay less taxes, they'll be busting their ass at their job trying to get better pay and keep more of their own money.
People who are just living off the basic income will likely spend some of the money on non-necessities like video games, movies. This is good for the economy. It's called "injecting demand" and it keeps money flowing through the economy and helps businesses thrive. More customers.

How conservatives could be so retarded about this simply because "muh communism" is unbelievable.
>>
>>71638686

You could give everyone 100 a week in the local currency of most countries and it would break even if you got rid of departments of social welfare.
>>
>>71638686
It would work because robots would produce the wealth and pay taxes.

This is why I am for UBI, as soon as the machines produce everything and we don't need humans anymore and the singularity happen, we enforce the UBI.

Right now, the bot who produce wealth and pay taxes are biorobots. This say a lot about the fight liberals are doing.
>>
>>71639487
>And I suppose the energy to run this shit will just fall out of the sky endlessly?
That's a very likely scenario. The energy stocked in the ground on one form or another will eventually run out and we will have to find a way to turn the solar energy into an hydrocarbure. Imagine all the deserts in the world and half the ocean used to produce methanol or di-hydrogen.

This will probably not happen before 3000 and only if civilization find a way to survive the overpopulation in Africa.
>>
>>71640253
>Knowing that their basic living will always be covered, people will be better workers and be more competitive
Yeah, all the 2 of them who still work.
Thread replies: 20
Thread images: 4

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.