>/pol9k/ constantly bemoans niggers on welfare and single moms
>idolizes the 1950s
>says nothing about pic related
You guys can bitch all you want but men have to hold up their end of the bargain as well. So many guys just want to live the single life and would never settle down, which is deep down what most women want. Keep being manchildren obsessed with cars and vidya. Your grandfather had a house, wife and two kids and a car at 21-y'all are nothing but worthless NEETs who try to justify your fear of responsibility.
>>71632200
my grandpa was a priest
he was fighting a world war at 21
> Your grandfather had a house, wife and two kids and a car at 21
extremely poor bait, i smell some burning sagebush
I am ugly and short.If I marry my wife will surely cuck me.
>>71632200
>why don't men want to get married!
Because the post-modern progressive society has ruined the high majority of women in my generation, pic related
>>71632200
MGTOW and the Sexodus are a byproduct of high divorce rates, women bitching in marriages, women being cunts in general.
If you want to stop something you end it at the root, which is women's superior place in society at the moment in regards to prison times, divorce courts, child custody, affirmative action, et.c
>>71632200
Why would I care about used up whores in their 30's who realize their time is gone and now they want to settle down? Find me a cute 22ish year old virgin and I'll settle down with her in a heartbeat. They're fucking unicorns I tell you.
Women are married to the state, they don't need men except for reproduction. ARTIFICIAL WOMB NOW!
>>71632200
>I'm a girl btw tee hee
saged
>>71632361
You're in Turkey, you can just stone her to death
Welp, you've changed my mind. I'm going to go out and marry the first single-mother I meet.
Time for me to #ManUp.
>>71632200
enslaved by the American government
>>71632200
Your own godamned fault, fucking feminist.
FUCKING LMAO AT MGTOW IDIOTS.
I mean sure, you guys have a point, modern women are trash.
But do you think they give a FUCK that you're "giving up on society"?
Let's be real. How many actual 8/10+. 6'2"+, good looking and popular guys call themselves MGTOW? FUCKING ZERO.
You're not "men going their own way", you're men SENT their own way. LMAO.
>>71632548
We dont stone anymore.We can harldy even beat woman now.
>>71632200
>but men have to hold up their end of the bargain as well.
What's the other end of that bargain?
>>71632200
But I already have my grandfather's house.
>>71632200
>>says nothing about pic related
We have this thread every single day. Some days we even have it multiple times, often concurrent with each other. Are you blind, new, or a master-baiter?
>>71632654
Don't come crying when you wind up paying alimony and child support when that woman you marry or has your child leaves you and treats you like an ATM.
>>71632200
I didn't give up on society. Society gave up on me.
>>71632708
Being the beta providers to used up whores.
>>71632568
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>71632346
It's good for me if I lived in the EU or the USA.
>>71632200
>So many guys just want to live the single life and would never settle down
Because women are no longer worth the risk of marriage.
>which is deep down what most women want.
The current divorce rate, and those that start such suites, says otherwise.
>Your grandfather had a house, wife and two kids and a car at 21-y'all are nothing but worthless NEETs who try to justify your fear of responsibility.
I also have a car and a house, but since I do not have a current-day harpy demanding that the world revolve around her I can spend more time doing what I want to do and fuck sluts.
I actually don't mind the current way things are going. I may get older, but college girls stay the same age.
>>71632200
Yeah well I own my home, not a mortgage, have been married for ten years and have two kids.
So your premise is obliterated.
Must suck to be a loser like you.
>>71632568
I did this.
Guess what, just under a year of marriage and I've moved out and will be getting a divorce at exactly one year (UK law says you can't divorce sooner)
That's it. I'm done with women. I'll put a profile on PoF and tinder and just fuck when I need to.
>>71632200
>2016
>not gave up on wymin
good luck on your divorce, cuck.
>>71632200
>says nothing
This must be bait. Every fucking day
1. Hurr manchuld preblum, wat do?
2. Durr y pol h8 marage durr
3. Hurr durr y wite man so efeminate and NEET
You must be new, so here's some spending money for your effort. Don't spend it all in one place you twat
A gf won't bring my hearing back.
>have a job
>pay my taxes
>spend my money on myself, not women or society
By default makes me better than niggers and 85% of women.
>>71632654
I don't give a fuck what they think.
>>71632654
>et's be real. How many actual 8/10+. 6'2"+, good looking and popular guys call themselves MGTOW? FUCKING ZERO.
Then obviously Chads should just carry society on their shoulders. They never gave us anything, so that the assumed betas can even think about helping society.
Kill yourself mate.
>>71633090
At least you can't hear her nag.
>>71632200
>/pol9k/
You sir are a visionary
>>71632966
I have single friend.
Kinda fat but tall and funny.
He hasn't been in a date in like 3 years.
Been fucking women off PoF and Tinder left and right. No date, no dinner, not even fucking coffee with these hoes.
Why would he ever "buy" one when you can "borrow" it for free in 15 minutes?
Humanity is overrated
we all should stop breeding and kill all humans
>>71632200
society in current year
>get married
>get 1.5 children
>build a house on a debt lasting 30 years
>drive a leased Minivan
>get divorced
>lose everything will still having to pay it off
>stuck in the hamster wheel as a wage slave
mfw men are just checking out of getting cucked
>>71632200
Pic related is your typical Sanders supporters though.
That's not /pol/
>>71633359
Agree.
Thanos agrees too.
>>71632200
>It's men's duty to enter a competition with no prize.
That is not how self-interest in men works, they are better predictors and you can either listen to their warnings or suffer.
>>71632200
>Your grandfather had a house, wife and two kids and a car at 21
He didn't grow up being told he was evil and worthless and not welcome in society. His job paid a fair wage and treated him like a human being. His wife wasn't legally empowered to treat him as property. The world he brought his kids into wasn't a psychotic hellhole.
>>71632654
I am a 9/10, 6"1, 215 lbs with only 13% BF..... I call myself MGTOW.
Fuck off.
>>71633999
That summed it up pretty nice.
>>71632654
There are plenty of chads I know who have given up and gone MTGOW. It's not worth marrying some spent up whore who will fuck Tyrone and take half your money.
>>71632200
>fear of responsibility
During first year at university I was fat and poor. Grills didn't even notice me. Now that I am soon graduating, losing weight and hopefully will have a succefull job interview, suddenly 3 grills 'I-I hope it will be serious with you anon'.
I am not an ATM, earn your own money.
>>71633999
I hate Everybody Loves Raymond. I slap the shit out of that shrew and rape her.
>>71632200
Good.
>>71632200
>tfw im like this
>also have own house, car, and investments that give me income
excuse me while i stay fly
>>71632200
>You guys can bitch all you want but men have to hold up their end of the bargain as well.
We'll "hold up our end of the bargain" when marriage stops being a net loss for men.
>law is entirely in favour of women
>wonder why men aren't interested in a fixed game
>women moan that they can't get their finger in the mix if there's no mix to be had
>cry because niggers don't marry and if they do, they generally club the woman to death if there's any disagreements
Yeah, no.
Bullshit game for bullshit players. I can have 40 kids out of polygamy and force others to pay for them while working illegally for cash in hand while living in a friends house, allowing him to afford a mortgage.
I'm a better human than being a fool who falls for the marriage game. I'm also winning the genetics game.
>>71632445
Pretty much. They let Chad wear them out all day long and expect some beta who kept his head on straight to mop up after them.
>>71632654
I pull chicks all the time but I still understand where MGTOW is coming from. Getting married to a modern women isn't what it used to be.
I dont think checking out is any good.
>>71634072
You better post some pics fuccboi
i dont feel like bringing another human being this sick, twisted world and women beyond sex arent really worth it.
I used to think Modern women were trash.
Then I started improving myself. Dressed better, stopped fapping, worked out, and actually sat down and talked with girls.
They are pretty fucking cool tbqh. I think people just don't socialize enough in this day and age so the unknown is scary. I blame technology that's diminished face to face interaction aside from one sex fucking everything up.
>>71634672
>Swede is gay
No surprise there
>>71634672
He got you turned on Sven?
Everything is fucked
We're balls deep in Kali Yuga
Take the black pill and deal with it.
>>71634828
reading this thread has me convinced that nearly everyone here interacts with no women in real life
>>71632200
>men should do the thing that fucks them over the most because society needs it
no, not until society changes back to normal
>>71632200
I don't give a fuck, to be honest. To hell with other disgusting humans.
>>71634944
>work every day with women
>backstabbing cunts
>massive entitlement issues, will hold grudges if I don't go out of my way to please them
>lazy and self-centered
Letting women into the workforce was a mistake.
>>71634944
Where do I find traditional women though? Church? Should I start going again?
This bait is weaker than your erections you low test faggot.
>>71635151
You have to find them young. Any woman past 25 that's been infected by the media Jew is beyond redemption.
>>71632200
>Hold up their end of the bargain
Oh, you mean doing and paying for everything all the time? You mean assuming a ton of responsibility and enduring a lot of stress? You mean doing all this for the health of a state that constantly shit talks about us? No thanks, I'll stick to vidya.
Friendly reminder that 3DPD whores are not worth your time and money!
2D is the only choice for true happiness! Take the 2D perfection red pill senpaitachi!
Why would an American male marry an American woman? It's the equivalent of sticking your hand into a pit bull's pen - no matter how friendly the dog looks, you have no idea whether you're gonna lose a finger or not.
An even better analogy is this: Should you sell cocaine for a living? It will make you a lot of money. You'll have all the cocaine you want. But eventually, you're going to get caught and end up in prison.
Same with women. At some point, you're gonna get tired of that woman. She's going to know it, you can't hide genuine contempt for very long. And she's going to hurt you. The law is on her side, the entire government is on her side. Once you take that vow, you're fucked whenever she decides you're fucked.
So just don't do it. Problem solved. Man = happy. Not as happy as he'd be with a real woman from past eras before the government decided to start fucking men over, but as happy as you can be in this shit-tier modern society.
Anyway, just hold out a little longer, guys, and the woman problem is going to solve itself - pic related.
Just don't let yourself be emotionally needy, guys, that's the key. It's weakness. Be a man, not a manchild. And be smart.
>>71634944
Maybe they just refuse to make the sacrifices their grandfather made because they are not likely to reap the same rewards?
>>71635151
Not at church. When I was younger I used to fuck married women from my church. It simply is no guarantee of quality. Lots of women at church are there to try to convince themselves that they're good people after all the crap they pull during the week.
>>71634944
>>71634828
Talking with girls is fun and it's a helpful reminder that not all women are shit. That said, it's also a source of recognition that most women are shit. That still hasn't changed since I started being more social. If anything it actually made me think less of women since I personally witnessed or heard stories of cucking and shit like that.
>Your grandfather had a house, wife and two kids and a car at 21
My grandfathers worked hard and were able to be alpha in a fantastic growth economy.
Our economy is dogshit and everywhere we are indoctrinated to be beta cucks. I'm trying to keep my head above water, but it's not easy.
I would if i could. I doubt i could own a house at age 21, maybe rent one. But nobody likes me
>>71634229
I know this to be true. Imagine being Chad, having slept with every guy's hot girlfriend and wife.
Chad has an even lower opinion of women than the poor beta guys do.
>>71632200
Weird showing a fit /tattoo'd guy as example of "men giving up on women" when usually they look like pic related.
>>71632200
I know we're mostly men here so it's always women being blamed, but isn't it true that most men are fucken faggots these days not even capable of taking care of themselves, let alone a family.
I think a lot of you bitter virgins just have to high standards, good looking people have always hooked up, this isn't a new thing.
There's still good girls out there but I'm sorry ur not gonna find a dimepiece virgin who wants to settle down with some neckbeard. They don't exist
>>71632200
>gay tattoos
i dont think videogames are at fault here
>>71635299
s-sauce?
>>71635559
Keep telling yourself that.
>>71632677
No wonder you guys want to flee to Europe, must be awful living in that liberal hellhole.
Typically in a "bargain" both parties stand to actually gain something
>>71632200
You think NOW it's bad???? Wait for VR to kick in, then you will see how bad can a sexless society be.
>>71635151
I hate to be a proponent of the race-mixing jew, but try second-generation asian girls. Third gen are fully sluttified -- these are the ones you usually see fucking niggers and disappointing their dads -- but second gen american-borns are still raised by traditional parents and have their more conservative values while being open to new experiences that don't involve getting blacked or chadded
t. Married to virgin I found in college, blindly devoted to me
>>71635797
The future is interesting, isn't it poland?
>>71635585
Hey now, I resemble that comment.
>>71632200
>>71632200
>hold up their end of the bargan as well
>as well
>meanwhile women do whatever the fuck they want
>>71635311
Problem with that image is the prediction that it will change women for the better. That anon was pretty much correct about everything else but we already know what happens when women are in an environment in which there aren't enough men around: they degrade themselves rather than better themselves. Look at any large city where single women outnumber single men such as New York. Women go into a spiral of degenerate behavior in a quest to attract male attention. Same thing happens on college campuses where there are more women than men. Hookup culture is at its strongest on campuses with a large gender imbalance towards women and at its weakest on campuses with an imbalance towards men.
>When men are in oversupply, the dating culture emphasizes courtship and monogamy. But when women are in oversupply—as they are today at most U.S. colleges and universities—men play the field and women are more likely to be treated as sex objects.
http://time.com/money/4072951/college-gender-ratios-dating-hook-up-culture/
(Note the article still manages to blame men for women's slutty behavior.)
More men checking out of the dating market due to sexbot replacements for women would just drive women to degrade themselves even further to match their lowered value instead of trying to increase it to beat the sexbots. Tinder is already an example of this. Expect an orgy version of Tinder when sexbot come into being. Women desperate for even a slice of male attention will be willing to jump into bed with a dozen other woman and one guy who doesn't want to purchase a dozen sexbots.
>>71632200
Nag, nag, nag, nag, nag. Women in a nut shell. A man's gotta do, what a man's gotta do. So see image.
Women are in control of sex, marriage, relationships, and children. They are basically the gatekeepers to having a successful society if they know their place. In our situation women have forgotten their role which leaves many men lost and confused about what to do with their lives since raising a family becomes impossible/unviable. Thus explains the higher suicide rate, depression, introversion, bronies, etc.
Most of these guys are bitter and spend to much time on /pol/. I met a girl 4 years ago and both of us have never been happier. Not all women are out to "cuck" you, conversly you can't be a selfish ass and expect women to want to date you.
>>71632200
You're a moron. Men are smart enough to walk away when they are not valued. I'm not gonna give you my attention if you refuse to give me yours without condition. It's fucking retarded, every woman wants have to have the best mate and will go through literally all of them to find one who in the end isn't even that good for her. Women should wise up and realize you only deserve a good mate not the best one.
>>71636550
She's fucking Tyrone on the side, dude
>>71633195
Too bad your taxes are indeed used to feed society. For examples as hand outs to single moms.
people are just realising that your life is yours, you don't owe anybody shit. I didn't sign up for this, I was just born for no reason, so I might as well do anything I feel like doing. get married, stay single, join ISIS, don't join ISIS. whatever, who cares. just do whatever teh fuck you wanna do. society's push on individual freedoms is slowly deteriorating, and that's good, fuck being a cuck. you are your own man. I love freedom/liberty/etc. even if it means random arabs are going to try and stab me to death. who cares, I'll buy a gun.
>>71636550
>I met a girl 4 years ago and both of us have never been happier
Aw look hes in love, listen dude love is just a chemical in your head that makes you become temporarily insane in order to get you to breed with a girl however that girl cannot fall in love she only loves you in a shallow sexual manner which is why relationships with women are pointless because its impossible for them to be monogamous at all.
>you can't be a selfish ass and expect women to want to date you.
Shows what you know, women date self absorbed men all the time.
>>71632200
We have threads about the final solution to the NEET question every single day. saged
>>71636550
>NAWALT
>>71635299
Good goy, fap to anime while Tyrone is race mixing outside
Good boy, never get a wife
>>71636550
thank you for the anecdote it has changed my opinion
>>71636966
This is just false dude.
Do you actually believe there's no such thing as love and a stable marriage? I get it if that's not what you want but it's bullshit to say it's impossible.
>>71635797
For some stupid reason black guys will fuck and dump any white meat, as per usual
Every one of my friends that got married turned into little bitches that play house all day, not doing shit with their lives. I stayed single, started a business, and live on the beach with a porsche and 30 employees that I lead to victory every day on the batteground of capitalism, and travel to far off lands to have exotic experiences. Meanwhile, my married friends are looking forward to "taco night". Nuff said
>Why would I care about used up whores in their 30's who realize their time is gone and now they want to settle down? Find me a cute 22ish year old virgin and I'll settle down with her in a heartbeat. They're fucking unicorns I tell you.
>Women are married to the state, they don't need men except for reproduction. ARTIFICIAL WOMB NOW!
Couldn't agree less
all the niggers that i have saw w gf had fat white sloots
>>71632489
HOLY SHIT TITS NAAAOOOOO UR SO BYUTFUL BB PLZZZ SHOW ME UR TITS FOR ME PLLZZZZZ HONEY
>>71635710
I say, check and m8
>>71632200
Women tell men that they are not better in any way, the women don't need men in any way, and that all traditional male actions and roles are sexist against women, and that men should supplicate to women at every turn.
Men spot the raw deal, as institutionalized sexism exists and is quite extensively targeted against men.
Men say 'fuck that'.
Women blame men for leaving.
Top cuck.
There is nothing more cucked than being a MGTOW. You literally jerk off to videos of other people fucking women and pretend that it's you. They're all just bitter cucks who believe that they're alone by choice because it's more comforting than believing that nobody wants them.
Like all other things, relationships depend on the choices you make. If you're fucking autistic and marry poorly, you're liable to have a bad experience.
Having a gf is great. You get a sense of purpose that you'll never get playing minecraft and jerking off. My life is greatly improved by the fact that I can go home and have sex with her every day.
My father came through ellis island. I aint having kids because its the right thing to do for the world.
>Tl;dr eugenics
ITT dude's trying to rationalize living total bullshit lives so that they can stick their dick in a woman's void.
>>71635299
FUCKING NORMALFAGS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND
>>71632677
Join isis????? Is marital rape legal
>>71637539
What's wrong with looking forward to taco night? I love that shit.
You act like only single people can work hard but actually I think it's the opposite. Family is what drives me to be successful. To take care of my wife and kids just like how they take care of me, in different ways.
You can say that's for cucks but I think it's what a man's supposed to do
>>71638121
Women aren't designed to take responsibility for their actions. That's why throughout most of human history the consequences of female actions were borne by their husbands or male relatives. They've gone through most of human history being accountable only to the dominate male in their life with no accountability to greater society. Now that they've been "liberated", they lack the ability to be accountable to themselves, much less to society in general. Natural selection removed it from their brains long ago.
>>71632200
pol talks about this all the time you moron
>>71638884
I just hope she doesn't fuck you with divorce.
>>71632200
My grandfather was an incestuous pedophile.
>>71632568
Go and finish up the plate someone left on the table man. That did look like a good ass sub.
>>71638130
why you getting angry at men, what did they ever do to you?
![StAnthony[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/a0Ankhd.jpg "StAnthony[1].jpg")
>>71632654
Popular guys who give up society are canonized.
Look at this big guy. Anachorite for life.
>>71639060
I guess there's always a chance that shit goes sideways but I like to think I have good judgement and I trust my old lady. She's a great mother.
This is where I disagree with most guys on divorce, I agree the law has taken it a bit too far but I'll always want to take care of my kids and my wife even if we're not together. She sacrificed the best years of her life to pop out kids and basically be a maid. I could never just put her on the street.
>>71632200
Just waiting for sex bots and artificial wombs
>>71635559
>implying /fit/ isn't /r9k/ who thought squats would fix their autism
>>71632200
>Hover over Op's ID
>one post
Looks like another shill thread
Sage and ignore
>>71639471
>I guess there's always a chance that shit goes sideways but I like to think I have good judgement and I trust my old lady.
Everyone thinks the same thing. Half are wrong. But you're a special snowflake so it would never happen to you.
>a bit too far
Nice hand waving. Things are well beyond "a bit too far"
>but I'll always want to take care of my kids and my wife even if we're not together.
Even if she fucked a dozen guys and brought home a bunch of STDs for your dick to enjoy? Take care of your kids by having custody of them. There are tons of statistics that show single dads do a better job of raising kids than single moms do. If you want them to be taken care of, do it yourself.
>>71632200
I want to suck that dudes cock
old fashioned gender roles went both ways. women don't want to be homemakers, and men don't want to be breadwinners... except when women break the role it's celebrated, and when men do it it's a problem...
>>71640116
Funny that.
>>71639082
U ok bong? ;/
>>71637379
>Do you actually believe there's no such thing as love and a stable marriage?
Of course its false because you are an idiot that thinks emotions are actually real and not chemicals in your head. Women cannot love a man they can only lust a man, your just in denial because of that oxytocin overdose going on in your brain right now.
>>71632200
Eh, while society has ruined monogamy and honesty a good bit in today's world, this board is overwhelmingly cynical.
There are still a good amount of women out there, and I'm sure that I'm not too far off in saying that most the guys on here don't have the best social attributes.
This place needs to learn that a perfect person, let alone a perfect women, does not and never will exist. Your goal should be to find the best girl you can and then make the best of everything.
>>71640409
You are exactly the type of person that doesn't belong here. Negativity is degenerate.
>>71632200
Sounds like you're projecting burgerface, most of us work here, NEETS are mainly from /v/ and reddit
>>71640515
>Negativity is degenerate.
Its the truth you stupid monkey you are just a puppet to various cocktails of neurochemicals thats all you are.
>2016
>wanting to marry modern women let alone trying tolerate and going out with them
>>71639852
Dude that's a bit of an extreme scenario. If she fucked a dozen guys and gave me aids I'd probably kill her...
Honestly tho she wouldn't do something like that, you don't have to believe me but that's why I married her. Plus we're Italian so she really has no say. We would only get divorced if I say so but we don't believe in that.
I believe in being miserable and resentful like my pops til I die before I got divorce lol
>>71634828
you lying fuck. what happens when you try to talk to women even if improved vastly? nothing happens.
>sat down and talk to girls
what the fuck does that even mean?
where? how? who?
>>71640609
>Honestly tho she wouldn't do something like that
How do you know? Does your feelings tell you what? You do know your gut instinct can be wrong right?
>>71640437
You're confusing /pol/ with general society. While much of what you wrote might be true, /pol/ is a couple thousand people at most. Society is made up of hundreds of millions in the US. These issues are society wide and not the exclusive domain of /pol/.
>>71640409
So what about my kids then genius? I guess according to you I don't love them either
I actually feel bad that you have this outlook on life
>>71640609
Unless you own a time machine, you simply don't know for sure. All you have is ego and arrogance pushing your emotions to override logic.
>>71640784
Romantic love you stupid fuck, of course women can love their children. Yes you dont really care about your kids you are just programmed to care about them however the problem here is that your woman has no programming to love you unconditionally.
>feel bad
Spare me your stupid pity its all irrational mental illness thats what emotions are.
The problem with modern society is that women don't need men anymore. The government has replaced the man; women can receive free welfare, food stamps, housing, and medicare. Women don't need protection since they can depend on the police or the government to defend against foreign invaders. Marriage is a prison sentence for men since it's a lose-lose situation when she eventually loses interest in you. Fuck women!
>>71632200
at least i'm not a degenerate with tattoos
>>71640784
Your love of your kids has nothing to do with the possibility of your wife betraying you. You're confusing your motivations with those of your wife. Just because you love your life as it is doesn't mean she does. You're stuck so far in your head that you're lacking a single ounce of self awareness, which is pretty common among special snowflakes.
>>71640876
I would have killed myself by now if I was that bitter about the way life goes.
>150 posts
>ctrl + 6dKob7U0
>only 1 result
guys the OP is just ruseing us, just report and move along
I have two sisters who didnt have a single kid until their late 30's early 40's.
White women, in particular, dont want to build families anymore. Birth numbers and divorce rate speak for themselves.
It has nothing to do with "men".
>>71640999
Who cares about the OP. There is a discussion going on, that's were the entertainment is.
Every single girl I'd even consider having a serious relationship with has turned out to be a turboslut when I get to know them a little more. I don't think men aren't trying anymore I just don't think the value is there period.
I used to think it was like this with women: Pick only two of the following:
Pretty
Sane
Intelligent
But now massive whore needs to be tacked on to that deal.
>>71632654
>8/10 check
>6'3" check
>good looking check
>popular...
>>71640994
Yes you would and that is why emotions are a mental illness its the only way a human can override their self preservation instinct and kill themselves.
>>71632200
>...and two kids
>an achievment
OK buddy
>>71640798
>>71640876
I don't understand what you guys are getting at. Neither of you have ever met me or my family but you think you have all the answers. I already said there's always a chance things go sideways but that's why you don't marry the first whore who looks at you. A good woman makes the chances of that slim.
If you enjoy being alone good for you but I'm actually happy with my old lady so fuck off
>>71632200
Prostitutes are now cleaner, cheaper, and more respectable.
>>71633999
Trips of truth
>>71632200
>men have to hold up their end of the bargain as well
Although I know that I might come off as an MGTOW-loser, I don't give a fuck. This degeneracy that's being pushed also affects men. Hell, nowadays when you get recruited in to the army (mandatory conscription here) the doctors who make sure you are healthy enough for service often advocate (if not BEG like in my case) for you to come up with some excuse NOT to go the army. Actually, men are treated much worse than other demographics. Western men are being feminized in the name of tolerance and equality, and this makes male excellence harder to achieve and in some cases almost IMPOSSIBLE.
>>71639644
>implying /fit/ isn't /lgbt/
>>71641223
You're so happy you have to insecurely brag about it to strangers to cover up your own insecurity. Show us a picture of your amazing wife if you are so proud.
>>71632200
Marriage worked when women were more like property than people, now that they have rights and shit marriage simply isn't worth the trouble. That said, there's no reason you can't live with and start a family with your lady friend, but when 50% of marriages end in divorce it's just easier not to even bother because in the event things don't work out you don't need to put up with months of bureaucracy.
>>71641223
> but that's why you don't marry the first whore who looks at you
All of them are whores its in their genes to be sluts you delusional fuck.
>A good woman makes the chances of that slim.
There are no good women thats nothing more than an idea that mental illness called love makes you think.
>If you enjoy being alone good for you but I'm actually happy with my old lady so fuck off
Yes you are happy but the question is if shes happy does she really care about you in the way you care about her, of course not shes a fucking woman they cant even comprehend unconditionally romantic love.
>>71635299
>mfw seeing normies cucked by their ugly 3DPD's
>>71641455
>but when 50% of marriages end in divorce
When will people stop buying this crap.
>>71633195
That was me until literally 4pm yesterday. Just got laid off of my cushy 50k a year office job.
Now looking into getting on benefits until I find a new job.
Living the dream
>>71641455
It's really that bad is it..
A long term relationship with a woman is a bad decision below the age of ~30.
I'm working on my personality traits, personal image, and accumulating resources so I can be Chad.
If I can't be Chad I wont date.
I'm pretty happy being independent. I have money, I have nice things, I have freedom, and I have plans.
The whole world seems to be falling apart around me, but I'm doing pretty good desu.
https://youtu.be/LNg_MVXtWJw
>>71632200
It's because of white women. Non-white women are 1000x better at relationships but too many guys won't "settle" for less than an annoying feminist bitch who happens to have white skin. Makes lots of sense.
>>71632200
Womans fault
>>71632200
Hey newfag that shit was all over this place last year
>>71632200
A faggot with tattoos wouldn't have produced a worthwhile family anyway. Probably more faggot liberal supporting idiots.
>>71641526
And over 70% of divorces are innitiated by women.
Also...your women give roses to the rapefugees who rape them. Remember that German cuck.
>>71635498
Kek this
Chads are leading the charge with betas on giving up on marriage
>>71641526
The only rate that matters is first marriage divorces and last time I checked they averaged around 40% in most western countries.
>>71641604
All women are the same.
While i applaud the married dudes in this thread for reproducing they must not be aware a tatted up biker dude could steal their wife and fuck her without much effort.
Buying a wife from new Kurdistan is a better deal than marrying modern American women
>>71641526
Not only is that number completely accurate, but the reason it's not even higher is because much fewer people even attempt marriage anymore.
>Live in midwest
>Tend to run into women that like aspects of the 50s family ideal (outside bars/clubs anyway)
>Almost all of them still have ridden random cocks for 10+ years
>The rare few who have ridden little to no dicks tend to have mental/physical problems and expect you to "fix it"
Being a guy nearing 30 and would enjoy being a dad is getting confusing around here.
>>71641434
Bragging? I'm trying to show that you can find good women and to some people having a family is still worth it.
There's ur pic faggot it's all ur getting
No mention of chronic princess syndrome in any of the papers, interesting isn't it.
>>71638130
Is that so? I'm a 30 yr old Chad and have spent most of my life in relationships. When single, I've fucked more girls than you can count.
I can get pussy and I can get girlfriends without trying. They literally throw themselves at me.
But for the life of me I can't find a woman who's company I actually want. I get bored of them sooo fast. Anything more than 2 hours is just torture. I have a lot of hobbies and a lot of interests, and I can find men who are interesting company, although I prefer to spend a lot of time alone to pursue my interests. I don't see the point of spending time with women (other than for vag). They are all boring as fuck.
>>71632200
This is a symptom not a cause
>>71641744
How is this bitch a good woman? Also you are good looking thats a red flag it means your face is the only reason she likes you.
>>71632200
My grandfather was dead at 21.
Nice try though.
>>71641674
>Also...your women give roses to the rapefugees who rape them. Remember that German cuck.
We can spot them, your rape-crew niggers are considered american. Rember that.
>>71632200
I can be whatever I want in this society. Individualism, hedonism and consumerism are what motivate me. I'm sure niggers feminists faggots and Muslims can take the reigns of Western civilization just fine
>>71637539
^^ this right here /thread
>>71641744
is she asian?
>>71632200
My grandpa said his wife is the worst thing that has ever happened to him. Spent him broke and they live in a trailer park.
>>71641604
Latino women will stab you the first excuse they get and black women with a decent upbringing are few and far between. Where are all of these quality catches? Don't say Asians because I don't live on the Worst Coast.
>>71641739
>Not only is that number completely accurate
>nearly two-thirds of marriages will never involve a divorce, according to data from Justin Wolfers, a University of Michigan economist.
>Of college-educated people who married in the early 2000s, only about 11 percent divorced by their seventh anniversary, the last year for which data is available.
Your homicide rate is so damn high because of niggers, don't you think your divorce rate could have a similar source?
>>71641720
>All women are the same.
No one even comes close to white bitches. But what do you expect in a global society that propped these women up on pedestals for decades? "oh look our wimminz is so bootyfurl, lust after herz, gif her all de gud jobs, put a rang on it asap..... holy shit y r the white wimminz so full of demselves??"
>>71640605
>a money calling me a monkey
Sure Bahamian, you tell me all about how I'm wrong and everything is chemicals.
I'm sure you're fun to be around in person.
>>71641811
This.
I like this guy.
>>71632200
For what I've seen, most men really want a family, but the law is merciless with men.
Also divorce, in a world with divorce, marriage is pointless
>>71640608
>Say 1 thing, mean something else
>>71632200
>men giving up on women and checking out society
that's an interesting choice of words to describe autism
>>71641867
No we're both born in Canada to calabrese parents.
I'm done responding to that douche who keeps calling my wife a bitch when he has no clue.
>>71640116
wow. Very true.
>>71632654
6'3
240 10-12% bf
6-7/10 face
I wouldn't call myself MGTOW, but I might as well be. I've become so stupidly full of hate in the last few years since I moved that I can't tolerate even the best of people anymore.
>>71641966
That just woman behavior you social outcast, women were always like this.
>>71642016
Its all chemicals man you have no will to fall in love it just automatic you cant stop it.
>>71641828
you had me until this. gb2 /r9k/
>>71640515
so negativity is describing biological reality?
>>71632467
>Women are married to the state, they don't need men except for reproduction. ARTIFICIAL WOMB NOW!
This is very true.
The state has replaced the man. No surprise women constantly for leftists parties who want to expand welfare. Women voted Obama into office. They are overwhelmingly left wing. However, women only have as much power as men let them.
>>71642064
She a bitch doe
>>71633219
This
>>71642141
I dont hate women you tard, I am just stating that love is just a mental illness.
>>71642064
>douche
Aw you mad Im insulting your cunt, you gonna defend her honor like some pussy whipped bitch?
>>71641744
It's physically possible, but your anecdote is meaningless when you look at the numbers. Most women will not settle for men that are in the same league as them physically or socially. That in itself means marriage as we know it is over.
No matter what you say, it doesn't change the fact that tomorrow your wife could decide she was done with you and win your stuff in court.
What I learned from this thread is that white people are human pandas, they won't reproduce even for saving their damn race.
>>71632200
The law is stacked high against men, women have immense advantages in court. A woman can outright lie about being abused, raped and berated in a marriage even if the man treated her like a goddess. A woman can slut around with no consequences till she's 30 then look for a cuckosaurus to support her for the rest of her life as well as her bastard children if she has any. When she's bored of her husband she sluts around behind his back and if caught blames him for her unfaithfulness. Men just cheat for sex because their wife or girlfriend uses sex as a means of controlling them and holds out for a month or more at a time as a way to punish her man. A woman cheats if her man buys her the wrong color iphone or some petty emotional or revenge reason.
>3DPD
>>71641811
Does somebody have the "only interested in you because of vagina" screencap?
>>71633999
trips of truth
>>71642127
Fuck you rude boy you're wrong
>>71641922
It's not that hard to observe women and see who's a cunt or not. But there are Asians everywhere. They want to be loyal, submissive wives, most of them aren't fat or ugly and most of them will date almost any white guy. White guys that aren't wifing Asian girls are losing hard.
>>71632361
>pic
>>71641952
Where is this data?
>>71632654
fuck you my internet persona is all those things
>>71632307
This. My grandpa became a doctor, an engineer, and then an ordained minister when he got bored of the other two and fucked up Jap scum. That era of life is long gone.
>>71642326
How am I wrong? You are just a mindless monkey getting angry after something you dont agree with yet let that serotonin build up monkey.
>>71642326
>It's not that hard to observe women and see who's a cunt or not
Anon if men could determine which women were predators this society would be completely different than it is today, you are full of shit and judge women on face value like a gullible easily controlled bitch.
>>71632654
This
Average MGTOWcuck pretending to "go his own way" vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey2iGAzQDc4
>>71632200
Niggers on welfare create kids. Neets on the dole don't. You're welcome.
>>71632654
I dorm know if I'm Chad but I've been told I'm 7/10 or 8/10
I've had plenty of female attention and I'm disgusted by modern sexual society. I just want to find a nice girl I can be with and trust I am so sick of the date(if you can call it that) fuck scene.
Since I've hit about 24 I've been doing what my younger self couldn't ever even imagine and that's turning women down.
As I get older so many women just stagnate and get fat and/or haggard and disgusting.
In one aspect it's really easy to get laid if that's what you want but it sucks
>>71642524
This is what love causes, as I said before its a mental illness.
>>71642383
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html?_r=2&abt=0002&abg=1
>>71640295
Yeah I'm alright, I was kinda remarking how I've done better than him, so far.
And then some anon comes along and makes sure I'm alright, cheers burger, USofA is pretty fucking cool.
>>71641560
>Divorcetugal
>>71642404
Because non-white women are not coddled and spoiled by the world like white women are so how could they possibly be the same? Somewhere in the relentless shilling for the white race, white men made everyone want their women. Every white girl has a "big head" because of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmhqJ2BOmq8
>>71642238
So what am I supposed to do, leave her and lock myself in my basement and never leave?
I just found the woman who I trusted and made a good mother and held on to her. Ya it could all go wrong but that's life. It's better than just not trying.
>>71632346
>tfw when this is true for you and he had FOUR kids total by the time he was 30
Just end my life fampai I've failed my patriarch.
>>71642064
I'm sure she is lovely. People here try to mask their own insecurities by screaming shit at those who upset their worldview.
Personally I spent 10 years in a great relationship with a great woman, we split amicably entirely because of personal reasons related to me. A couple years later I came across her sister and she confessed my ex had waited for 6 months not even going out with friends on the weekend just waiting for me to call.
After that she slowly became involved in another relationship and now is happily married to the second man she has ever been with (I was the first).
Truth is there are lots of women like that but they are hard to get to if you hang out in the normal places and are not-available even if they do. Because they are loyal and committed to any man they consider worth it.
Its sad, this board, it feels like crabs in a bucket.
>>71632445
It's sadly true. I've seen it happen a lot to my friends when we got out of college and started working in our career fields. They all got hitched to cashiers or baristas or some shit while I waited and actually fucking found a female engineer who was smart as fuck. That's a big telltale sign of someone's quality: what they do for a living and how they got there. She was a STEM honors student and got a great job working in biomechanics. Just don't fall for the ones behind the counter. They're there for a reason.
>>71632654
I'm a 7/10 with a nice body who is 6 feet and I am a MGTOW. I use women for sex and sex only.
Rest of the time I'm working on my own stuff and chilling with the bros. Life is great.
>>71642043
it's really depressing desu. I bought the Disney/Hollywood bullshit growing up, I was waiting to meet "the one". After about 12 girlfriends I finally realized I had the same problem with all of them - nothing to talk about, zero interest in talking.
The only woman on earth who I actually want to spend time with and talk to is my cousin, but even she is a libertard leftie. She's fun company but I could never seriously date a woman like her. I think there's a reason why, for our entire history other than the last 30 years, men didn't try to treat women as equals and women were relegated to the private sphere.
>>71642672
Are you stupid? Human genders have base instinctive behavior there is a reason why there are assholes in every male of every race.
>>71642326
We'll first thing, I would say the problem isn't not being able to tell which are cunts. I think it's pretty clear from the overall trend that there are just too many cunts.
Secondly, people change over time. Non-cunts can easily become cunts. Someone you are with can at best just become disinterested in you and at worst go fucking insane over the years. This is naturally going to happen, but the law makes it so men face all of the risk with no reward whatsoever for their trouble.
There is not one reason to get married other than peer pressure.
>>71638130
Bro, don't pretend like you know me. Some of us have ascended past your petty expectations. I jerk to to porno videos pretending that I am the woman, and my best friend is my tulpa, a voice that speaks to me in my head.
I am also a retired millionaire in his early 30s. So fuck you.
>>71639082
It's a small island. Incestual pedophilia is a statistical inevitability in the UK. Especially once you started importing brown people en masse
>>71642723
>Because they are loyal and committed to any man they consider worth it.
Women are polygamous they cannot ever be loyal at all its in their nature to constantly search for better DNA to breed with, there is a reason why black males call their women whores and tricksters because thats what they are thats what all women are including your mother and grandmothers.
>>71642510
Lol it's still not hard to do - the problem is men have a hard time penetrating the appearances to pick on a woman's attitude and mannerisms. They think pretty girls are "good" people and average/below-average girls are "bad" people. I know it's part of your biology for the image to supersede the subtleties of a woman's personality, but it takes practice.
>>71641743
You can always man up and be a father to your wife's son anon :)
>>71642641
Your own fucking article discusses the fact this is mostly due to fewer people getting married than before.
>>71632654
>But do you think they give a FUCK that you're "giving up on society"?
if tey didn't care why are they complaining
>>71642916
>there is a reason why black males call their women whores and tricksters
Black men also have lower IQs than chimpanzees.
>>71642946
Yh no its impossible for a man to tell who is a bitch because women are programmed to manipulate and lie so you can think that church girl isnt a bitch when shes playing you like a sucker.
>>71632654
this post reeks of cake and xxl skirts
>>71642982
>>71632200
fuck that guy looks hot
>>71642693
Why is this so hard for you to understand? I don't care about your anecdote. Dozens of men who do the same thing you do will be met with huge amounts of stress and financial burden. This isn't about you.
>>71632200
Dear Dumb ass,
Your Grandfather had Women worth marrying. Your Grandfather had the opportunity and buying power to buy a house and car at 21.
...You don't.
>>71642311
>>71641811
Yeah baby.
>>71642982
>Your own fucking article discusses the fact this is mostly due to fewer people getting married than before.
Still, those who get married are less likely do divorce.
>>71642723
Or it's filled with people who understand statistics and why n=1 isn't a valid sample size.
>>71643044
>Black men also have lower IQs than chimpanzees.
No they dont, the blacks while stupid also have incidence of that mental illness called love allowing to see women in a completely rational manner which is manipulative sextoys. If mentally retarded niggers can figure out the true nature of women why cant you white males do it because you are white you are genetically programmed to become pussy whipped idiots thats why. Look at your countries your women hate your pussy whip asses so much they are importing men that think of them as property.
>>71642723
Thanks man.
Ten years is rough,we've been together 8 now. I'm sure you will find what you're looking for seems like your heads on straight. I just wanted to put in my two cents in this thread that it is possible for a woman and a family to make you happy. Much happier than fucking random whore.
