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Is China the future? The US is falling behind...
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Is China the future?

The US is falling behind...
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Yes. They've spent the last several decades conditioning themselves into an cold and unfeeling production machine while we've given our kids participation trophies and told them that doing better than others is a bad thing. After the Boomers are gone and X'ers and Millenials step up to the plate, we are going to get so unbelievably BTFO by the Chinese that it's sickening. We'll see how safe spaces and "equality" hold up then after we have to play by China's rules.
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Just compare our youth with theirs.
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>>71630879
They could have been but they took too many leaps backward. Their demographics will hold them back for at least another two or three generations and by then Russia will be falling apart and India will be encroaching.

The US should be just fine as long as we keep our dick out of the cheese grater.
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>>71630879
At least the Chinks don't give two shits about the SJW push. In fact, they'd be rounded up and shot if they tried to do anything.
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>>71632147
Westerners delude themselves with the ant people and cheating memes, but the truth is China is much more meritocracy than the west, and has been for centuries because of the civil service tests. That approach to social advancement still exists to this day. The best and brightest rise. There is some nepotism, and people are definitely encourages to bend the system as mich as they can, but there is very little tolerance for overtly subverting the competition in the end.
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Good thing we can just end the world at the press of a button and just be done with it. I am not afraid of becoming Rome because when we die everyone will die with us.
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I, for one, welcome our future chink overlords
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>>71630879
China isn't the future. It is the present.
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>>71630879
China wirr grow rarger.
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The 20$ bill made me understand that the US is lost
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I bet in 30 years there will be this massive movement in China shitting on Asian privilege. They'll start accepting refugees and slowly become another UK-tier nation.

Then Brazil will become the superpower and suffer the same fate. Then India. Then South Africa. Then who knows what.
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nah.. we own them
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>>71632884
>pooflag third
>superpower by 2030 maymay
This won´t come true.
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>>71633315
Wrong. The SJW thing is a permutation of Christian Universalism, which is embedded within Western culture. China doesn't have this problem for the same reason that South Korea and Japan don't, despite being much more developed and much more open to Western cultural influence.
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>>71633874
>SJW thing is a permutation of Christian Universalism

Egalitarianism is secular. Equality is not found anywhere in the Bible.
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>>71630879
China is one of the few relevant countries in the world that managed to stay clear of the jewish influence and degeneracy. Socially their society is also pretty damn harsh but produce strong-minded people which the West is desperately lacking at the moment. if they are smart they are going to stay that course and they are going to do pretty well.
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>>71634057
Universalism is about the religion claiming applicability with all humanity. Islam is also universalist. Pagan cultures by comparison are particularist, and accept real human difference and diversity. Liberalism is universalist as well. Anything that claims a single system is the goal or even possible for all of humanity is universalist. It's not simply about material equality.
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>>71633315
>>71633874
They may not have the SJW problem but they'll have issues when their people want to live with the superior rights of the so-called inferior west.

If the east truly wants superiority they have to empower their people to think and act on their own without fear of retribution. Otherwise the returns of such a system will diminish over time

No their problem will arise when these people want more freedom in a system built around authoritarian principles. Their system in its current form won't even make it to the SJW bullshit we have in the West because the Chinese system won't survive their version of the 50s and 60s when it happens to them.
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>>71634422
People have more freedom in their daily lives in China than in the west. There is far less anarcho tyranny, and moral policing.
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>>71634418

You're not even the same poster. Universalism in context of social justice has everything to do with egalitarianism -> humanism.

Neither sexes or races are equal on this earth. All they are equal in is the capability of having salvation from their sins and eternal punishment in Hell.
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>>71634548
You take your own rights for granted if you believe that.
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>>71634300

>China is one of the few relevant countries in the world that managed to stay clear of the jewish influence and degeneracy.

>Fully bought into communism hook, line and chinker.
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>>71634622
What I am getting at is that the idea of the spiritual universalism where man is saved from the Devil by accepting Christ has turned into material universalism, where the Devil is now the bourgeoisie or white people or whatever it is, and once free of their corrupting and oppressive influence, we'll all be happy forever. Its a mentality that is unique to Christianity within the Abrahamic faiths. Jews don't care about proselytizing, and Muslims are just as happy to subjugate infidels as they are to convert them.
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>>71630879
I'm torn on this. Often have to deal with mainland chinks and can confirm that the average chink is literally subhuman. The smarter or richer ones are complete psychopaths. Yet China is pretty based when it comes to degeneracy and slimes so whatever senpai
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>>71634422
I'm honestly pretty sceptical of the idea that Chinese people will be caring about having Western level freedoms. They have a pretty strong conformist-authoritarian streak in their culture, at least dating back to the time of Confucius. I think they value order and material affluence more than anything. Liberalism, in the classical sense, not the leftie American version, is a pretty uniquely Western thing. It has never properly caught on in any non-White society.
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>>71633315
>Brazil
hehehehe
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>>71635841
I completely understand your skepticism.

What pushes me toward the opinion that I have is globalization. Western values and ideas are pumped into these people all day every day, possibly even moreso than the domestic stuff.

While I don't think people are going to clamor for American values or Western values outright, I think our connected world is going to make it impossible for these people to ignore. It's a long war and the west will win as long as there is enough leisure time for outsiders to absorb our culture (which they fucking love).
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>>71636047

>culture
>they both have dragqueens
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>>71635451

I'll accept that as a possibility that they corrupted it into that. A lot of fedoras on /pol/ even corrupt the "neither jew nor gentile" passage into being about egalitarianism, despite all of the verses about women and slaves in the NT alone. It's not a stretch to believe the fedoras of the French Revolution corrupted that into what we call egalitarianism today.
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>>71636159
>dragqueens
They purposefully mirror each other, but one is clearly aesthetic and refined while the other is clearly grotesque and degenerate.
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>>71630879

>falling behind

not really.

they haven't even come close to catching up yet
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hey guyz imagin a world where beeing chinese is the new white. :^)
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They fucked up their future. They will split.
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>>71636072
I think you're right to a certain extent. I think we're likely to see the demise of the Communist Party and its replacement by some kind of military technocracy in the not too distant future, and then a liberalization of the culture, but minus full fledged inalienable rights and democracy. I think that will solve the 'fear of revolution' problem. My guess is that we'll see a sort of 19th century 'enlightened despotism', with liberal policies allowed as far as they don't threaten the establishment.

I'm imagining what Japan would be like if they weren't subject to American occupation, and basing my vision of China on that. Its very speculative, but fun to think about.
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The chinese have no imagination or creativity. They are souless robots
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I visit my Chinese girlfriend's family in China every summer.

If you think China is even close to catching America you are delusional.

Outside of MAJOR cities its still peasantry.
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I now understand why Australia is being bought up by China. They are literally saving us from middle east invasion.

Based China
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>>71636219
Yep, you got - that's exactly what I meant. The American Revolution was based on the idea of men being spiritual equals, and using that as the justification for equality before the law, and left it at that.

The French SJWs thought that spiritual equality meant that the government apparatus should be used for 'social justice'.

So its not that Christianity inevitably led to SJWism, but that the universalist sentiment was able to be retrofitted by the French ideology.

France is more to blame for Cultural Marxism than the Soviet Union or Germany. Its a shame that the American Enlightenment has lost so much ground to them.
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>>71636072

>While I don't think people are going to clamor for American values or Western values outright, I think our connected world is going to make it impossible for these people to ignore. It's a long war and the west will win as long as there is enough leisure time for outsiders to absorb our culture (which they fucking love).

This is 100% right. I'm working here and have many Chinese friends. For the most part, they admire our seemingly affluent lifestyles and our relaxed attitude towards marriage, jobs, family etc. Thankfully the importance of family and the in-group culture is so strong, otherwise their would be even more desperate to escape. From the people I've befriended, most think it would be great to live in the West but couldn't imagine not being close to family, friends, and food.
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>>71630879
No,the more educated the Chinese get the more they will pine for democracy and other idiotic things that have brought down the West. With China's ability to manipulate it's population to suit it's industrial needs is gone, so is China. I'm guessing it's India, if they can off the Muslims at least.
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>>71630879
I don't think the US will let that happen the powers that be would have WW3 1st
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China was the worlds biggest economy for the thousand years before 1800's then it was briefly Britain then America soon to revert back to normal.
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>>71639853

Yes!
Why isnt there a mass migratory flow like this?
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China's not the future, it's the past.

Look at this private debt chart. It's worse than Japan's before its economy collapsed.

But China's government won't survive an economic collapse.
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>>71640056
SUPERPOWER BY 2020
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>>71639853
woah a bunch of models standing in the back of a truck! amazing!
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Yes.

Europe will be Islamic, and we're going to have a fat ugly nigger whore on our money in four years. Not like they got much to compete with. The future will belong to them, Russia, and perhaps to a lesser extent countries like India.
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>>71640868

See? History is repeating itself.
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>>71630879
Once China becomes 1st world, whos going to make their shit?
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>>71641071

Anyone who doesn't see the coming collapse of China is in for a huge shock.

Here is America's private debt before the collapse. The pattern is the same.

Private debt caused the collapse of America's and Japan's economy, it will do the same for China.
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China is gonna get to Mars before the US. Let that chink in for a minute.
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>>71640868
>>71641071
>>71641210

So do you see it guys? The coming collapse of China, due to massive private debt?
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>>71641185
You esa
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Yes it is
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>>71641487

Your private debt to GDP ratio is absurdly imbalanced.

The economic party is over for you.
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China is the future now. Biggest gdp
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>>71641423
Chink cunts are so tight, I lost my virginity to a chink in grade 12 it was fucking amazing.
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>>71630879
No, don't worry. The United states, Russia and the other powers that be (jew) will figure out how to divide the mass into two or more separate Nations. It's just a matter of time
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Yes of curse
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>>71641610

Yes, and your private debt is dramatically greater than your GDP.

Runaway government spending has left you with an ridiculous amount of overcapacity that will take years to correct.

Economic collapse is inevitable.
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>>71641610

And smallest penises.>>71641681
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>>71641891
>Economic collapse is inevitable.
You do understand that US economic collapse means global economic collapse right?
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>>71630879
>be me
>work for Chinese company
>see girls younger than me more conservative than me
>remember american girl with 12 boyfriends a year
>Am openly told that they dislike blacks and muslimes
>Only have to put up with "Mao is awesome" bs and "Japan is evil" propaganda.
>not so bad desu
China is like 1960s America + North Korea at the same time.
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>>71630879
No. Not enough women
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>>71630879
China is definitely stepping up it's game. It has a long way to go before it deposes USA as the super power but the days are gone when USA used to single handedly dictate world policies.

USA will definitely not lose it's influence in near future, look at UK, until recently it had certain amount of influence.

To challenge USA, China will have to establish complete alternatives to the established hegemony.
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>>71642082

China will collapse first, due to the gap in private debt vs GDP. The conditions are identical to Japan and America before their respective collapses.
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>>71642085
;)))))))))))
你怎么知道呢?
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Of course they are the future, the west commited suicide and became a society of cucks and numales.
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>>71630879
Go look up China uncensored on youtube you swedefag
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>>71642178
>Am openly told that they dislike blacks and muslimes
Dont worry, the jews are working on "correcting" this too.
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>>71642335
>look at this CIA funded propaganda channel

lmao
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>>71642269
Correct. We're on stand by and we've got their number :^)
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>>71633315
You cannot be cucked without christianity or christian culture.
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>>71642567
Fuck you faggot
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>>71642495

Bad news, America and Japan didn't really learn from their collapses either.

We still ignore the threat of private debt, the very thing that caused our economic collapses in the first place.

This level of stupid is beyond imagination.
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>>71642884
Well, our next "collapse" realy has to do more with the petro-dollar than anything else, and really it'll just give us a reason to occupy KSA and start drawing lines in the sand with russia and iran
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>>71642884

Seriously. If we get rid of private debt decisively, we will have real growth.
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>>71630879
Yes China is the future. It be better for everyone to get ready right now. So when it does happen you can adjust easily. Americans will constantly delude themselves with jewish propaganda. Can't wait to see American tears.

Long Live Eastern Asia!
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>>71637140
>what is east st. louis
>what is Detroit
>what is Alexandria, LA
In every state of America there are places you can't visit because it's dangerous. At worst you can't visit them in the day also.

Fuck off with your propaganda.
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>>71643900
What's up with the canadian-chinese pride lately?
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China's economy is also rocky, it's for years been falsely inflated and has started to seriously slow. Add to that that dissidence in China is increasing, it's fair to say China peaked in the late 1990s although a country that big will always be a major game player
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>>71644315

I think Canada is trolling, envious of the Australians.
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>>71632040
We do have a large amount of redpilled young people, mostly the intelligent ones who realized early that the current course we're taking leads to the abyss.

Having the most intelligent people be also the most redpilled is pretty good. They'll rule with an iron fist once the boomers and their PC bullshit are gone.
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>>71642411
Doubt it will work, Chinese guilt will NEVER exist at this rate lol.

Mudslims chimpout, get destroyed, aren't even allowed to cry about it. /based China?

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/prevented-07052013145108.html
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>>71644315
canada has a ton of chinks just like we have a ton of brown scum from your country :^)
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>>71632040

Yes. China is so united they only have FOUR separatist movements, lol (Tibetans, Hong Kong natives, Taiwan, and Uighurs).
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>>71630879
Chinese exchange student is coming over to make me rice noodles and rice balls and a blowjob just because I had minor surgery.

I'm okay with my qt Asian overlord. :)))))
You all know if China rises to the top your going to see Chinese image boards making cuck jokes about big white bulls.

Btw every exchange student I've met and I've met a fucking lot either want white dick or white pussy. They are also spoiled as absolute fuck
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>>71644748
Yeah the IQ difference between Mexico and China is tremendous.

Mexico rank 19. Avg 88-IQ
China rank 7. Avg 100-IQ.
In Macau (China) its 104, and Hong Kong its 108. Taiwan 104. Basically every part of China is better than Mexico desu.
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>>71644845
Tibet is conquered, they are butthurt.

Hong Kong was British, they had a 50-year no-law-changing rule. That time is almost up, they are regretting that agreement.

Taiwan is what is left of the group that lost the civil war, their population is so cucked that female-male abuse is extremely high and their men in general are perceived as Carl-tier.

Uighurs are just azn Kebab.
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>>71645007
im ok with racist qt azn girls.

I mean I have never heard such glorious redpill statements with an utter lack of remorse as what comes out of azn, primarily chinese girls.

"I like Westerners, I just don't like black ones though, hehe.

I've even teased one about dating a black dude, I got "EWWWW NOOOOO"

instant 10/10
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>>71645256
Hong Kong will eventually be the 4th special municipality under direct control of the central government. As it is already the southern economic hub, it will be integrated into the existing system. You can induce a lot by examining Chinese municipal laws.
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>>71645608
Yep.

Im really curious what will happen to its domestic currency. I feel bad that they will lose a lot of their freedoms but pussy-footing around confronting the CCP head on will not work in the long run no matter what.

If they want a change they can't hide out like loblertarians on lolbertarian island. At some point they will have to confront the opposition.
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>>71645808
Also, the Hong Konger youth enjoy and take advantage of the privilege of living and working in and around Guangzhou. They NEVER complain about that little perk. Apparently they also appropriated the western tendency to try to have things both ways. They resent mainlanders, except when they've taking advantage of the opportunities there. Protests for independence are crocodile tears to me.
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>>71645007
>You all know if China rises to the top your going to see Chinese image boards making cuck jokes about big white bulls

But in their case, it's actually true.
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>>71646276
You aren't white Ahmed.
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>>71646374
SHEEEEEEIT MUHFUGGA

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