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So it's whitewashing to cast a white actor/actress as an Asian character, but perfectly fine and progressive to cast a black guy or a woman as a white male character?

Explain this to me
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>>71622663
P.much
RACISM = PRIVILEGE + POWER
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>>71622663
kill all whites

is what they believe. Apply that to everything you wonder about progressives do.
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Gurantee at least half of the people who signed the petition have no clue what the movie is or about
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>>71622663

Whites are racist and others can't be. Whites are evil and others can't be.

#killallwhites
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>>71622799
How is this movement gaining any traction? Don't whites care?
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daym whyties alwys b racist n shit
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Japs were always basing their anime/manga characters on white race anyway.
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>>71622719
RACISM - PRIVILEGE - POWER = 0
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>>71622663
>Asian spine+brain isn't allowed to put herself into a white robotic body
Wow Julie Rodriguez is really racist sad
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>>71622902

YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!!! RACIST PIECE OF SHIT!!!

Boom. You lost your job.
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>>71622663
Surprisingly those people was so excited when Hermione became black.
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>>71622939
>tfw your cotton pc is starting to get out of date

Would it be racist to upgrade?
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I DONT CARE ABOUT SJW SHIT SHES A GARBAGE ACTOR REEEEEEEE
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>>71622663
>Dremwurks, sotp whytywashing white characters

Suuuuuureeeee
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reallife remakes of anime has never gone well
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>>71623344
She did a pretty good job in Under the Skin
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>jews
>white
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>>71622902

And why? It basically all comes down to white guilt. Nazis, slaves, colonialism and all that. All the bad things in the world are because of whites. It starts with kids in school where history lessons are about all the evils of whites and they keep on repeating them until it's in so deep that people really believe it in their heart of hearts. Add the endless Nazi, colonialism and slavery movies and documents that are done EVERY fucking year again and again. They get a shit ton of media attention and awards as well. Every fucking year some Auswich shoah movie gets an Oscar or some shit. It's in too deep already and there's no saving us.

It's basically brainwashing. Modern medicine (whites created it) has saved more non-white lives than whites have taken in the last 2000 years. But saying that is WHITE PRIDE YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE RACIST PIG!!!!

Boom. You just lost your job.
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>>71623519

This shit is basically similar to IF the Japanese history lessons for Japanese children were only about the Rape of Nanking and Unit 731 for years and years. Instead, they had the foresight to NOT teach those in school. Go Japs!
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>>71622663
But she's white in animations
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>>71622663
>IS RACIST TO MAKE ASIAN CHARACTERS WHITE
>But nigger Jimmy Olsen, nigger Hermione, nigger Heimdal, and nigger Rowland Deschain are just fine :^)
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>>71622719
Oh yeah also I guarantee that 95% of the people getting outraged never watched a single episode (or even the fucking movies) of GITS, and are getting outraged because

>it was made in japan
>SO THE CHARACTER HAVE TO BE GENERIC ASIANS
>THIS IS WHITEWASHING REEEEEEEE
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What does this "issue" at hand actually have to do with "whitewashing"?
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>>71624118
Scarlett Johannson was cast as Mokoto in the new GitS movie.

Despite the Major having a robotic body that in no way needs to be Asian.

Hell, it's heavily hinted she wasn't even female when she got cyborg parts, why would she keep the same ethnicity as well?
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>>71622663
>rodriguez

Why do spics care? Is Japan making a fuss about this? [spoiler] Of course Japan isn't, Japan is based. [/spoiler]
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>>71624217
Kek.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewashing_in_film

I swear this is some retarded shit right here
>Elizabeth Banks plays Rita Repulsa, a character traditionally depicted as an Asian.
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>whitewashing
>by casting a jew
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>>71622663

blackwashing is okay because the past
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Okay guys, politics aside we all agree that this is a miscast, right? Who would you cast as Motoko? I can't really think of anything so I'm geniunely curious about your propositions.
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Except no anime has Asians in it anyway. It's like all the whites in America moved to Japan, and the Japanese went out to sea and sank.

Now the new white population calls themselves Japanese and lives in Japan, dying their hair strange colors and wearing short skirts.
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I wish I had so much spare time and priviledge that I could sit around and make up issues. If I had that amt. of time that isn't what I'd do w/ it, it'd just be nice to have it.
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>>71623291
Underrated
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>>71622663
>Jews
>White
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>>71622663
She's not even fucking white! She's a fuckin jew!

AND SHE'S A FUCKING TERRIBLE ACTOR

They also cast a manlet as Batou. There is no fucking hope for this movie just based on the casting decisions alone.
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>>71623947
Wait, what? When did Roland become black?

>All those passages about his cold blue eyes
>All those passages about his dark hair, and tanned skin like an old western cowboy
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((((((((White))))))))
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Are there any big name young asian actresses who actually have the draw power to star in a SFX heavy (expensive) film?

I can't name one.
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>>71624414
>see also: colorblind casting
>non-traditional or integrated casting
>when it is not germane

So when you replace minorities with whites, because it's irrelevant to the story, it's negative. When you replace whites and men with minorities and women, it's positive.
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>>71623344
that feel I know it
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She was only cast because she's a well known actress and people like her as Black Widow and Lucy. They knew the casting wasn't right when they tried to use CG to make her look more Asian. They should have went the Edge of Tomorrow route if they really wanted to make it American Hollywood.

It's all about money in the end.
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>>71624733
None that have those anime trademark big round, wide eyes.
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>>71622663

>white

Literally jewish.

Stop jewwashing movies Hollywood.
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>>71624686
They cast Idris Elba because lol, who cares about source material?
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Motoko is a pretty fuck Japanese name, and Scarjo in action movies is a little stale.

I'm not opposed to it in concept, but I do think it's going to detract from the movie.
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>>71624992
But why?
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>>71622663
Remember when Annie was black and they made the movie about hating white people instead of a poor relatable orphan girl, and then that movie flopped and was hated but nobody said anything because we'd be racist ;^)
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>>71622902
"When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression.". Something I've seen on kikebook a few times. Basically, only sexist and racist people complain, so they don't.
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These motherfuckers don't even realize that the story is based on a book and sci-fi ideas from Western literature.

That Kusanagi in the anime is not in a "Japanese" body. Her outer body is supposed to be a very generic mass production model with military grade internal parts. She has had different bodies in the past as well. The puppet master jumps into the exact same body type that the major has, only a civilian model. The only difference is the blonde hair and a slightly lighter skin tone. This is made abundantly clear in the last scene when the two look at each other, as if it were a mirror image.

The entire premise of the film, manga, and TV show is the question of self when the body is no longer relevant to the human experience.

Fuck SJW bullshit on this one I want to see a good movie for once.
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>>71625053
>Motoko is a pretty Japanese name
>I know nothing about Ghost in the Shell, but let me tell you about it

The character nothing but a cybernetic brain, it could placed in any body of any appearance.
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>>71622663
REMINDER THAT THE ATTACK OF TITAN MANGA FEATURED WESTERNERS AND THE GHSOT IN THE SHELL ANIME ADAPTION JAPWASHED ALL THE WESTERNERS INTO JAPANESE CHARACTERS!

SCARLET JOHANSON IS HOW THE ORIGINAL WRITERS INTENDED THE STORY TO GO
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>>71624686
>tfwyou will never see Scott Eastwood as Roland Deschain
>tfw you will never see Clint Eastwood as Steven Deschain in Roland's dreams of Gilead
whylive.jpg
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>this entire thread
>>>reddit
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>>71624992
idris elba is pretty cool though, as long as they don't try to make the story itself some kind of social justice shitfest it'll be fine
also he's getting cucked by eddie when he fucks odetta
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>>71625150
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/annie_2012/

Kek
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>>71625214
Sure that's a justification for it that works with the source material. It's just strange they'd choose a white lady body in a Japanese setting. It'll play a little strangely.
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>>71625215
That Attack on Titan live action movie was such a disappointment and most people hated it
>everyone supposed to be European except for halfie special snowflake Mikasa, but everyone's Japanese instead
>no Levi
>not Levi cucks Eren
>forced romance drama
>Mikasa a stupid slut
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>Name is Motoko Kusanagi
>Special-forces agent in a country where foreigners are extremely lucky to get any job that isn't non entry-level
>Cyborg body is specifically noted by several characters to be externally identical to a common stock-model in Japan, making Kusanagi more easily capable of blending into Japanese crowds
>Taking all of this into consideration, they casted Scarlett Johansson

Shit makes about as much sense as casting Idris Elba as the whitest of norse gods. Couldn't we have got Rinko Kikuchi instead?
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>>71625199
sjw won't even watch it because it's based on manga and that's too childish but at least they can complain :1)
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>>71625199
Well that won't happen. They cast Johansson for mass audience appeal, which should make it pretty obvious that it's going to be generic action movie #4046737 with none of the introspection of the anime/manga/animated movies.
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>>71622663
>People are mad that shes white
>Not that someone is making a gits movie

I fucking hate this planet.
YEAH, THE CAST OF A CHINESE CARTOON LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT TO THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE EM, EH?

GEE
ITS ALMOST LIKE CARTOONS ARE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE

It'd be a shame if japan were to try something like this one day, create a really popular medium, and then bastardize western nations by making their characters have blonde hair and blue eyes.
Hmmm hmmm hmm.

im too tired
don't take the race bait please. I dont want to hear normals outside talking smack on GiTS for having white people in a movie. Dont legitimize their arguments.

Oh wait I know
>HOW COULD THEY APPROPRIATE BY HUMAN WASHING A CLEARLY ROBOT-CENTRIC ROLE? FUCKING WOW TECHNOPHOBICS

thats better
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>Kusanagi
>asian
Anime characters generally look closest to white.
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>>71625199
Yeah except the body kusanagi uses is japanese, not white.

They don't make it look very japanese in any of the anime/manga, but they sure describe it that way.
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>>71622663
There should never be live action movies of an anime at all, not because of this race issue, but because live action versions of anime suck so fucking bad, its a pain to watch them

I can bet 99% of the people supporting this haven't ever heard of Ghost in the shell before this, let alone watched
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>>71625199
Then watch the original you fucktard.

Hollywood has proved incapable of producing anything but only the most bland and easily digestable gruel when adapting ANYONE'S work.

The fact that you ever had any hope or want from what will be another soulless cash in on a weeb franchise shows you need a good dose of cranial trauma.
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>>71622663
stop making PC remakes with negro and chink people

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404435/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ql_1
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>>71622902
I'm white and don't care
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>>71625342
Ebla is a shit actor who can only play one character: British gangster.
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I think they're tired of seeing lazy eyed jewesses being casted for good roles. Scarlett is hot but her eye freaks me out.
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>>71625680
>Anime characters generally look closest to white.
Anime characters dont look like any race, they dont resemble any real life race
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>>71625680
But 99% of the time there Japanese kek
Pay more attention
That being said a lot of her figure is designed after a white woman's as opposed to an Asian woman
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>>71625694
In stand alone complex they explained it better. It specifically is not a "Japanese " body. The only things different from the puppet master's Lilly white blonde is the hair and slight skin tone.
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>>71625718
Indian man is right
Live action adaptations for animu is garbage idea, technically so is capeshit
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>>71625885
That you little turdgolems can't identify with drawn human charactersitics doesn't surprise me in the least.
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>>71625732
What the fuck
I was okay with The Magnificent 7 Rides Again but this is just downright disgusting
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>>71622663
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>>71622663

Start watching movies with asian people in it you racists
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Johnny Storm charcoaled
Heimdall charcoaled
Perry White charcoaled
Spiderman charcoaled/beanered
Kid Flash charcoaled
Thor uterused
Iceman fagged

Their point?
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>>71622663
THAT IS NOT WHAT WHITE WASHING MEANS YOU FUCKING RETARD!
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>>71625727
I'm just fed up with people who contribute nothing to the creative process but bullshit complaints about things they will never watch.

It wouldn't matter if it stared the chick gogo from kill Bill or any Asian actress. They weren't going to see it any way.

Deadpool proved that you can do justice to the source material and make money. This, is just much to do about nothing.

What would be really cool was if they had the actress playing a lot of other extras and the puppet master to drive home the "shell" point to these idiots.
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>>71622995
Yeah it's obvious especially since Caucasians are the only ethnic group with natural blue and electric pink hair

>>71622663
Yep, it's not racist to cast a black person in the role of a white character

It IS racist to cast a white person in the role of a cyborg who can choose what her body looks like at will
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I don't think they need to be asian. They certainly don't look asian in the anime or manga and it's not like they are going to name them 'Bob'...Cowboy Bebop got it right
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>>71624638
who's this?
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>>71623170
No, fascist bigot, Hermione was cruelly whitewashed in the 7-movie franchise by evil white oppressors

FRIZZY FUCKING HAIR
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>>71622663
How about the jew stop casting niggest niggers for white roles (such as Finn in SW), in many cases subs for blonde haired blue eyed people.

Pic related, playing "the whitest of the gods"
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I'm still upset that they cast a black guy as roland deschain, especially since race played a major part in his interactions with Susannah so you know they are going to take a big shit on the plot
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>>71622663
Also the reason is because the purpose is to wipe out whites dumbfuck. Pic very related.

>"massive subsaharan migration"

The guy in pic related is right, its prepping the minds of white people for the income billions strong black horde.
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>>71622663
This is quite funny, asian anime producers and other such individuals who work in or around these fields make their characters look more 'white' with wider eyes, caucasian hair and eye colour, a white person's physiology and more. They do this out of their own conviction, because asians, especially women, to some extent have western beauty standards.
They may also be doing this to market their crap to western audiences.

Now SJWs claiming to be the ally of the oppressed minority are trying to curb-stomp asian marketing tactics. It's quite funny to watch. Sure, go ahead and get a B-list asian actor instead of Scarlet Johansson, I couldm't give less of a fuck if I tried, but at the end of the day the only people you're hurting is Asian business.
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>>71626499
Wonder Woman
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>>71623519
>Modern medicine has saved more non-white lives than ALL MURDERS OCCURING in the last 2000 years

FTFY. Geometric population growth, nigga. Look it up.
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>>71622663
Only whites can be racist you fucking white male so obviously it's only bad when you have more whites.
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>>71625400
What if... And hear me out now... Scarlet's body is the basic model of the mass production one in Japan. They could hide her in crowd scenes with different hair and small cosmetic alterations.

Japan already has a fascination with the West as far as fashion goes. Fast forward nearly a century and who knows maybe even then it will become a multicultural shithole like your country. :)
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>>71624471
Jewwashing sounds racist :)
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>>71626028
99% of the time they are white, because Asians know they're ugly monkeys, so they draw whites in their anime.
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>>71625150
It didn't flop, it was a success.
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>>71626499
Gal Gadot
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Based Tom Cruise saved Edge of Tomorrow, just find a way to slot him into this as well
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>>71626838
No it was not.
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>>71625570
I love using attack on titan as a counter-example, it's a big part of the story that everyone's white except one half-nip, but the movie cast is all jap. Where was the outcry then?
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But they dont care when britons play as romans or as vikings
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>>71626844
It's ridiculous that they designed that armor as if she has big tits.
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>>71626975
It is almost like the studio that makes the film will cast people with familiar faces to their audience.

Man I miss shabuya.
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>>71626935
Yes it was. Made it's budget back twice over.
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>>71626666
>This is quite funny, asian anime producers and other such individuals who work in or around these fields make their characters look more 'white' with wider eyes, caucasian hair and eye colour, a white person's physiology and more. They do this out of their own conviction, because asians, especially women, to some extent have western beauty standards.


they seem to prefer asian faces with north european colors but a typical european face wont be cheered there.
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>>71622663
1. it is not right when done to anyone
2. most anime characters are white, you fucking mong
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>>71624590
CG de-aged and perfectified Sigourney Weaver
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>>71626829
This.
Caucasian phenotyp is the most diverse while negroid and asians are all the same.
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>>71627245
1.Unless their race is relevant to the story why would anyone give a shit?
2.They're actually a hybridization of white/jap/non-human
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>>71625718
There will be a live adaptation of Trigun and Vash will be a Jew or black. Mark my words
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>>71622902
Anon, this shit has run its course. Its been going on for a decade or so, but only become super prevalent in the last 5 years. They say things to make people angry and then wait for a back lash, so they can play the victim. In reality, no one gives a fuck. Why weren't they crying about black washing characters like Annie? Because no one cared, they wouldn't get the rise that they were looking for.

I'm so bored of this shit, you couldn't pay me to care. If you still get mad enough to post threads about this shit, you are why /v/ is in decline.
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>>71625778
>not knowing Stringer Bell

Where's Wallace, String? Huh? Where the fuck is Wallace?
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>>71627390
yes
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>>71627204
I dont think anime characters look either asian or european, they look like aliens to me, however, the identifiable characteristics of the characters, such as their physiology and fashion / clothing, as well as skin colour, eye colour and hair colour all seem to be a lot whiter than they are asian, and are aspiring to western beauty standards in that sense.

Lolita fashion for example seems to be spruced up aristocratic victorian clothing.
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>>71622663
(((((( WHITEWASHING ))))))
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>>71626340
Deadpool has always been normie bait. I am so fucking sick of it and the 20 somethings who skim over the actual comic section of hot topic to get to the funko pops! and then buy a asston of merch to fit in their shitty little white girl clique.

Really. Fuck off and die.

As for the gits movie, it needs to not exist at all for the same reason the marvel and dc movies need to not exist. It attracts an audience that is not the original's target. Because of that, mediocrity is as assured as certain.
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>>71625778
Elba is the best actor of the Wire.
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>>71627390
>Unless their race is relevant to the story why would anyone give a shit?
I can't speak for the Ghost in the Shell adaptation. But at least with the Star Wars movie, while race wasn't relevant in the narrative, it was relevant to the directors and writers.

The big issue with casting unintended races/genders for roles is that it feels forced. If it comes about naturally I don't think anyone really gives that much of a shit. But when you have directors like Abrams basically condemning 'whiteness', and openly saying how he wants more minorities, it's hard not to get frustrated.
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>>71627474
It doesn't matter what the role is supposed to be. All Elba plays, no matter the character, is a British gangster.
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>>71622663
>it is wrong if it is pro-white
>it is okay if it is anti-white

My my, it's almost as if they have some kind of... I dunno, anti-white agenda?
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>>71627619
So all the actors were terrible?
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>>71626520
R a R E
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>>71627835
No, The Wire is great, it's like experiencing the ghetto without the risk of being robbed, stabbed or shot.
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>>71626555
STOP BLACKDIRTYING NOW
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>>71623993
I wonder how they would react to FMA being cast with whites (considering it takes place in Germany)
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>>71628502
They'd probably get all butthurt with the durkas being played as durkas
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>it's not okay to cast a white character as black
>but it's okay to cast an asian character as white

t. /pol/
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>>71624590
A L I C I A
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WHO CARES!
THE MOVIE IS GOING TO BE SHIT ANYWAY!
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>>71622663
I mean, it's explicitly stated several times that her body is similar to Japs, AKA Asiatic. So it just makes no sense why they'd cast a Jew rather than anyone else. I mean, fuck, why not cast a nigger?
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>>71628848
but noone said that you nog, at least link to the person you're trying to pretend said it
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>>71628944
this, if they were serious about the film im sure they could have picked an asian character. i think there are plenty that have that haircut that could have fill the role well, but i guess producers are worried about sales
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>>71622663
Asians are particularly swept under the rug when it comes to casting. They get hardly any representation on the big screen, and when they do, it's usually some one-beat ching-chong stereotype character. White people on the
other hand are almost always cast in leading roles. Unless you're Will Smith or the Rock, you're probably playing second fiddle to a white actor.

It's seen as racist because the few good asian roles are given to white actors because producers know that white leads sell better.
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>>71622939
Niggers contributed to less than 5% of GDP
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>Anime characters
>Asian

Since when?

Fucking DBZ,Trigun,Naruto,Death note,everything mainstream has european looking characters.

Blondes with blue eyes,brunettes with blue eyes and so on.
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>>71626975
There was no outcry because it was a series created by a Japanese guy. A Japanese movie studio decided to cast a bunch of former Super Sentai and Kamen Rider actors and actresses. It is a Japanese adaptation of a Japanese created series.

It did really poorly, though
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>>71627474
D'angelo, shut your fuckin mouth
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>>71622663

do any actual japanese animators give a shit about this?

animu girls are quasi caucasian anyways..
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>>71629274
I doubt they contribute at all.

The collective cost of their existence in the US very likely outweighs the productivity their presence adds.
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>>71629273
There aren't that many outstanding, young asian actors.
There aren't that many outstanding black actors either, of those that are, they are constantly getting offers and starring in movies.

There is simply a much larger number of A-list white actors to choose from, who are not only better actors but will also attract a bigger audience.

Once again it is merely the left trying to hamper market forces for 'equality'.
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>>71631086
Why can't every asian in movies just be Jackie Chan?
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>>71630122
I meant during slavery. Slave niggers made up 5% GDP the country was built by asians and catholic europeans. Niggers did nothing but shuck and jive
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>>71629273

There simply isn't all that many good asian actors who can play their part well in english. There's a reason why Ken Watanabe is in every movie.
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>>71631522
Because we live in a fallen world.
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