Or is it just SJW propaganda?
>>71607203
I used to watch porn too, until I found a site where you could find horny American (mostly) housewives who wanted to watch you jack off. Course, I got an 8 inch cock
i'm not addicted to porn but i'm addicted to masturbation
which i need to do right now
join me
Better watch porn and jack off nicely, then watching the electric jew.
>>71607203
I actually think it's real. I spend upward of 4 hours a day masturbating to porn. This is almost my entire free time.
I've been doing that for about 10 years now. Even when I got a girlfriend, right after having sex i stand up to get behind my PC and open my 4TB porn collection to fap to one of my favorites.
I never even considered it to be an addiction until I saw a documentary on local tv station about some dude that spend 1 hour every day masturbating. And how that was an addiction.
If he's addicted then i'm the grand meth addict of porn.
>>71607253
what website aussie
>>71607203
Doing 11th masturbation session this day while watching Aleska Diamond do gangbang. I am doing just fine.
>>71607451
>1 hr is an addiction
shit pham
Just jacked off
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/02/hes_just_not_that_into_anyone.html
>tfw no updates in years
>>71607597
it's real i believe him
it's as addictive as 4chan
aka very addictive
>>71607203
Internet addiction is worse.
Porn addiction is a symptom.
>>71607203
Men have a basic biological need for sex. Porn is one of the ways that need can be satisfied.
All people have a basic biological need for food. Flan is one of the ways that need can be satisfied. Are women addicted to Flan, anon?
>>71607203
Of course it's a lie. You can only manipulate sexually deprived men. After you release, you start thinking clearly again, so Mr. Goldenberg's deal doesn't sound that good now
>>71607458
its called Experience Project, but its about to close down. What they say about desperate housewives is definitely true
Is depression addictive? People don't just watch porn while their sexual needs are being fulfilled in real life. It's just a substitute for something your mind and body want.
Having a good relationship would kill that addiction because it would be satisfied in the right way.
Anything can be psychologically "addictive", from eating toilet paper to fucking inflatable beach toys
people who are predisposed to addictive personalities can be addicted to porn, or it can go hand in hand with hypersexuality, a form of mental disorder that can be treated like anything else, but it's hardly something that's a wide social concern as people make it out to be
>>71607203
If anything SJWs want you to stay in your mum's basement fapping all day
>>71608117
>Anything can be psychologically "addictive", from eating toilet paper to fucking inflatable beach toys
You know, this one I'm actually curious about.
What separates someone from, say, a gambling addiction, which is psychological in nature, to someone who does shit like that? With a gambling addiction there's at least the anticipation of a reward or risk.
But with weird shit like toilet paper eating...what causes that? Like why are they not able to string together "you know what, me eating toilet paper is irrational as fuck and I should stop"
>>71608262
Usually for the more out there ones, it's from other psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia or OCD, so technically it's not "True" addiction
Extreme sexual behavior can be linked to the body's addiction to hormones and chemicals produced during arousal and orgasm; both in the body and mind. Some people are simply predisposed to this due to genetics, upbringing, or both
SJWs want to remove and destroy anything that gives men pleasure. They've advanced out of the basements, and now want to ruin more than just video games, comic books and those darn chinese cartoons (WHY WON'T THOSE FUKKEN NEPS JUST OBEY OUR DEMANDS TO STOP PRODUCING GRAPHIC CARTOON PRON AND GO DIE?)
Now they want to make normalfaggot porn for men illegal. Of course whatever landwhales schlick to will be non-targeted, so if you fap it to gay pr0n you're probably okay fellahs.
>>71608092
True, at least to an extent. When I had a girlfriend, the viewing was way, way down.
>>71607451
Upwards of 4 hours? Every day? Damn.
I feel like sex is the same as things such eating and sleeping. It's a completely natural part of being alive. To call it an addiction seems melodramatic- but if something bothers someone and they continue to do it anyways, then I guess you could slap the whole addiction term on it more easily. I feel like the word "problematic" would be a lot more appropriate than "addiction". Addicted is what you get when you do too many hard drugs, not when you pull on your dingy, I don't care how long for.
>>71608512
That makes sense, something like eating weird shit and it feeling addictive could definitely be from a disorder.
Addiction to chemicals and hormones would explain general sex addicts, in the case of gambling addicts, I suppose it would be the adrenaline rush.
> I feel like the word "problematic" would be a lot more appropriate than "addiction".
I hate how people use that word but I agree.
Problematic is a stand-in for 'I don't like this' or 'its probably hurting in some way' with the argument being that although it feels good, its reducing your overall quality of life.
Well no shit. If you hold the load in and only deal with real women instead of using your imagination all the time then of course its going to be better, because your body wasn't designed to jack off to cartoon women all day. Its just working that way because you are pulling it that way.
As for brain chemicals, thats everything. Your feelings are altered by your behavior and habits, of course your brain changes to adapt to a more stable state. Jacking off just becomes 'something you do' instead of 'something you do once in awhile'.
When they say addiction they mean the people who hate that its taken over their lives and want help to change it. If thats not you, I think its fair to say they are full of shit.
>>71607203
How is this different from just having sex often?
Yes port is addictive and generally "bad" but most enjoyable things are.
We all have vices, just don't succumb to them 100% and you'll be fine. A couple drinks a week, a starcraft game or two, won't kill ya.
>>71608516
This. Fuck porn and actually fuck the whole degeneracy meme. The only real degeneracy is race mixing.
>>71607203
Funny how SJWs are strikingly similar to christfag republicans. An authoritarian is the same no matter what color you paint it.
>>71608083
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN!
>>71607458
>New Zealand flag not Australia
>common core
This is why america is doomed.
>>71607203
depends
if you find yourself watching and jerking to porn when you told yourself that you would do something else then yeah
jerking off when you are bored out your mind is human nature
jerking off when you are killing time is human nature
jerking off when you have a 2 page 100 word essay about Egyptians and king tooti worth 10 credits
then yeah you got a issue
>>71609973
sex and masturbation release different chemicals
but too much sex is a bad thing just as much as too much masturbation is
its just to get to the "too much" part of sex would take a little longer unless you marathon it for 5 hours or something I would assume
>>71607203
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4dyz86/pornography_addiction_and_erectile_dysfunction/
Absolutely addictive
I dont really care about what the science says or what SJWs say, but edging for an hour every day for 10+ years gave me increasingly bad ED. The instant I couldnt get hard in bed was the moment I realized I had to go nofap. Once I rid myself of porn, I'm sure using my imagination to fap once in a while will be fine but you really never want to edge and get high on that dopamine because you will fuck your shit up. 4 Months nofap and much of my problems have gone away.
If you just watch a porn video or two and bust it immediately, you probably will be fine in the long term... but be careful with it
>>71612757
Are you sure? If you read my comment above me I edge for close to 4 hours (sometimes damaging my dick) every day for ~10 years. I have no problem with ED.
Maybe it will still come to me eventually. But isn't there a chance that you were just predisposed to getting ED anyway and edging just made it worse?
Porn is addictive in the same way that everything pleasurable is addictive. This is just how the brain works.
Most people won't ever have a problem with that. Some people, generally people who are predisposed for addiction to begin with, for whatever reason, may end up addicted. Without porn, they'd instead be addicted to something else.
>>71612757
adding to this, I wasn't even "addicted" to porn in the literal sense. I didnt desire it every day and towards the end as I realized it was more difficult to get my dick hard, I would take several days off porn and I really wouldnt even miss it. it still didn't change anything though and my dick still wouldnt get hard. something got changed in my brain and only stopping cold turkey could revert my brain to the way it was before
>>71612914
im sure its different for every person and also dependent on what you fap to as well. I didn't have ED myself for the first 9 years of fapping, but then the tenth year when i turned 23, it started out of nowhere. perhaps you are lucky and won't be affected, but maybe it just hasn't happened yet
Instant gratification and hedonism is what made you all a bunch of weak pathetic faggot pieces of shit. I fucking hate porn addicts. Go 1 month without porn and fapping and we'll see how "not addicted" you are
also I have a question, how quickly could you cum if you had to do it as fast as you could? I remember when I was a younger teen, I used to take a fair bit of time to reach it even if I was power stroking. before I stopped fapping recently, I could go from 0 to jizz in almost 5 seconds (but of course I always edged for significantly longer). I feel like edging took away that building intermediate sensation between initial erection and orgasm from me, compounding the ED issue even further
>>71607683
wow, this is good
I always fap before I sleep who cares lol if you watch porn moderately it's no big deal
>>71613871
The whole blog is great.
If nothing else, check out the three "Hipsters on food stamps" articles.
It's really a damn shame it went silent.
>>71613098
Saws?
>>71613098
those tits
>>71607280
>>71607451
>>71607701
>>71607703
>>71608117
>>71608713
>>71610078
>>71613009
Holy fuck, cmon /pol/ I thought you knew better than to listen to fucking SJW libcuck media.
They just want you to stop watching porn and fapping to remove yet another part of what makes you a MAN.
>>71614282
Fucking women is what makes you a man, not staying up your room all day and boppin the weasel
>>71608713
>Upwards of 4 hours? Every day?
Same here.
Some days I want to cut my balls off and be done with it.
No woman can match my sex drive, not many could do it in a two-woman team.
Oy vey what a horrible addiction! I need to dose up every 3 or 4 days oh no ill sure fry my brain and liver at this rate! Seriously once you turn 30 you will wish you could yank it 5 times per day. Yah yah im an out of shape loser and libido is shit. You are all mega studs.
>>71607203
Guys. GUYS LISTEN I just got THE ONE IDEA how we can fix western civilisaiton:
Make the SJWs ban porn, because its antifeminist and shit. This is the ONE thing all men want to have desperately. You can take women, riches, honor. But if you take the last straw from western men, PORN to jack off too, they will overextend their privileges and there will be another holocaust!
Also this would be the funniest reason to start a racewar/antisjw war ever.
Suggestions please.
>>71614406
>Fucking women is what makes you a man, not staying up your room all day and boppin the weasel
Sorry Vlad, but fucking your own mother is degenerate, I know it's cold in Russia but there are other females out there.
>Incest is completely legal in Russia
>>71614406
>he is one of them
>>71614282
Please explain how watching other people have sex on a computer screen makes you a man.
>>71615033
I'm a professional cowboy and I use catheters. Been cowboyin' for 25 years. I've had 14 broken bones, 2 concussions and a punctured lung. I know pain and I don't want any more of it. Especially when I cath.
We need a new word to differentiate "Addiction" from "Habit forming."
I'm getting tired of "MUH X IS ADDICTIVE!" When really it isn't in the slightest. Heroin is addicting. If you stop after getting addicted to heroin your body will shut down and you will fucking die, that's a physical, binding addiction to a substance.
Being so weak willed you waste your day jerking your gherkin is not being 'addicted' to porn, it's you being a weak willed shit cunt.
wait a sec, sjws are trying to ban porn now?
>>71607203
Porn and masturbation leads to premature ejaculation, having a harder time being turned on by intercourse, creates a depraved view of making love, both for men and women, and has a high risk of leading to sexual perversions.
Literally a very dumb thing to get into, and it's disgusting how it is promoted so much.. Sex should be a private thing for a married couple who love eachother.
Also a bonus, participating in sexual immorality without repenting of it, means you are destroyed on the day of the lord/day of judgement.
It's not intentional for you to be filthy like this.. god is disgusted by it, god doesn't like it so he's going to destroy you for it if you do not repent of it.
Oh yeah and the excessive focus on sex to build a relationship, which is what porno promotes.. leads to people getting in relationships with people they don't even really like, but they enter in a relationship simply because of sex and then it crashes and burns later on leaving them potentially as single mothers/single fathers.. in the worst case, or a broken relationship at best case.
No fucking mystery why these things happen.
>>71614282
It's true, that many SJWs are against porn, but for completely different reasons.
I see it as a subversive, dangerous genre, that can suck guys in at a very young age, stunt and distort their psychosexual development and make them complacent losers. I'm convinced, that high speed Internet porn and compulsive masturbation are the primary reasons behind the manchild problem.
>>71615033
Digusting jew/false hebrew, god is going to throw him into HIS 'oven' on the day of judgement.. See if he can weasle his way out of that one.. aha..
>>71607203
I think the guys who are "harmed" by porn are the same guys who get to fuck the hot young teacher in school and instead of loving every minute of it and keeping that secret to the grave, they go cry to somebody and get the teacher busted.
I'm talking about faggots who should have drowned in the bathtub as children.
Evil would have no foothold in this world if it wasn't for these weakling cowards.
They literally doom the race.
>is it SJW propaganda
Not at all. It really is bad for you, it seriously damaged your psyche.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/pornographys-effect-on-the-brain-part-1/
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/09/pornographys-effect-on-the-brain-part-2/
>>71615841
damages*
>>71608516
>NEPS
>>71615116
I hope so, finally they find something could to worry about. Maybe conservatives will join them and well actually get rid of a serious problem.
>>71615841
>Not at all. It really is bad for you, it seriously damaged your psyche.
Trust me Cochise, date a girl for three years and be so in love you want to marry her and then find out she's cheating on you for coke. That's worse than a thousand, million years of the most hardcore pornography and when it happens to a young man, and shatters him forever, you know what? Nobody fucking cares.
Nobody cares and you want to take away the only pleasure source he has left in the world. What about burn victims, you fucking cunt? Are you gonna go suck their dick? You don't think ugly and disfigured people have sexual urges too?
If you're not sucking my fucking cock, to distract me from my daily hell, you have no say in whether or not I consume porn or anything fucking else to sooth myself in this hell-world, and by the way, did I mention FUCK you?
>>71615841
Them and VDARE are basically written by /pol/. I swear to god some fucks here write for them.
Hear me out.
I like amateur videos. Not those community vids on pornhub.
I like those that is recorded by a phone. Real couple having sex and it's leaked.
I love the passion of the two people.
This does not misrepresent anything. Dude does not fuck for 40 minutes. It's as real as it gets.
Is this bad?
>>71607587
>11th
How hard to you need to fap at this point to get a release my Iranian friend? I imagine it has become quite painful.
i only fap to images of women i know in real life
>mfw this becomes a problem when I have to interact with them
>>71616300
You masturbate to other people having sex. You get off to the image of other men fucking women you find attractive. Let that sink in.
>>71616717
So i'm a cuck.
What about nude pics?
>>71617155
Stop looking for excuses to abuse your brain's reward system, Panupong.
>>71607451
>If he's addicted then i'm the grand meth addict of porn.
you're nowhere near the grand meth addict of porn
>>71616717
>what is self-inserting
>>71607203
Everything that is enjoyable is addictive on some level. Food, Games, Porn, Drugs etc.
>>71616717
Learn to sex, retard.
>>71607203
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3196809/It-induces-addiction-makes-men-hopeless-bed-discover-porn-affect-BRAIN.html
>>71608148
This man speaks truth.
I quit 4chan forever.
See you tomorrow.
>>71621745
man my brain must be tiny but i still love to fuck my gf. what does porn have to do with it.
I come home drunk and high at 2 am, shes out cold in bed and i got a pc and tissues and can still fuck in the morning.
>>71616717
Eh what? you dont even make sense. by that idea watching cooking channels and show is the same.
"damn you get hungry when you watch someone else cook and eat, what does that make you, YOU FREAK!"
fuck off nigel. be a good paki and vote for staying in the EU.
>>71623160
According to studies we have to FAP regularly to change the sperms (and stay the load healthy and fresh) but porn cause some sort of addiction and shrinking your gray matter.
I rememember i started with nude pictures, and now I'm watching milfs fucking their stepsons in their garden and a midget dwarf masturpating to them with an eggplant. So it's changed but not in the good way I guess. It's a fucking addiction. I drink goddamn energy drinks and it's a fucking cancer (literaly) and it's a pain in the ass to stop. So as the porn. Have you ever treid 40 day NO FAP challange?
>>71614282
Watching people have sex on a screen while you stroke your limp dick makes you a man.
hahahahaha
Reminder that anyone claiming porn isn't bad for you is a shill.
>>71613043
Your ED is not caused by porn. It is a medical condition. You should look at your diet and gut health.
>>71607203
By the logic of the image in the OP, it's just as addictive as food and exercise.
>>71616060
>date a girl for three years and be so in love you want to marry her and then find out she's cheating on you for coke. That's worse than a thousand, million years of the most hardcore pornography
fucking faggot
1. Porn is bad for you
2. Casual sex is bad for you
3. Women are ruined by society
4. Marriage is ruined by society
Weighing the options, self-restraint and a brisk fap every now and then sounds like the only rational course for a moral person
I haven't watched any porn nor masturbated in around 3 days. No idea how I have managed this
>>71607203
Porn is 100% physically addictive
>>71615073
Tits or GTFO.
>>71627848
Cumming in a sluts mouth is not addictive though, right? It's not like guys spend thousands of dollars and become neurotic messes chasing pussy (showing every sign of addiction).
No, only porn is unhealthy. Fucking a stranger's dirty cunt after she just finished letting her dog have a turn is how true red-pill alpha bros stay superior.
>>71612021
New Zealand, Australia...same thing
>>71624526
Living is bad for you, faggot.
Fucking your mothers disease infested fat roastie cunt is also bad but fuck if I'm not addickted
>>71615770
This.
And we can't let them ruin it for all of us.
>>71607203
no it is real, i noticed i was addicted when i was living with my gf and still watching porn whenever she was out, we had a great sex life, but i still needed porn for the sake of porn not for the satisfaction
>>71607203
I have been jacking it roughly for 10 years at a rate of 5 times a week in 4 plus hour sessions. I can't stop. I can confirm my college career is tanking and I may be NEET soon....
Kill me now
>>71623842
Not really i have phases were i dont fap for weeks
>>71607203
seems like reddit broscience but I do know it has given this entire generation a fucked up idea of what sex is about, eg rough sex is now mandatory
Shits addicting, mostly it seems benign until you lose a whole hour trying to find the perfect clip or picture to blow your load to. Then you sit there and feel ashamed at how degenerate you are and how you wasted an hour contributing not only nothing to your society but nothing that would have bettered yourself.
Its fine in moderation, but dont go expecting that every woman is going to let you do the fucked up yet somehow sexy shit you see on the internet. Also porn is nothing like real sex, real sex is magical in the sense that sometimes its way messier or dirtier or hilariously weird than you think it should be.
>>71629455
Anyone who has a significant other that theyve been boning for a while knows what I mean. Sex in the real world is great but its not at all the choreography you see in porn or film. Anyone whos tried switching up positions only to hit your head on a headboard then keep going while laughing gets it
>>71629455
I think the rea danger of porn is that it can really fuck up your relationships with women.
If you're used to seeing hundreds of different girls nude and you get to pick from hundreds of different girls to cum to, it makes it very difficult to fuck the same woman for a long period of time. You're always going to want a different chick.
ive been trying to figure out if theres a difference between jacking it to pictures as opposed to videos
the only thing ive noticed is that with pictures it takes longer and feels better at the end. that and i dont end up looking for more extreme shit
>>71629641
>You're always going to want a different chick.
I think that's just called male nature there friend. I want to bang every hot girl I see, the dick and lizard brain just like what they like, who am I to deny that?
COULD I bang every hot girl I see? No, probably not, but it doesn't hurt to try and/or fantasize.
>>71631521
I agree but I think porn intensifies this feeling.
How is porn bad but casual sex is good?
>>71631812
Casual sex is degenerate. Imo nothing is as good as having sex with a woman youve invested time in to get to know. That doesnt necessarily mean marriage but a couple weeks of dating at least.
Shit like tinder is going to be the downfall of humankind because people well not be able to develop healthy mature sexual relationships
I have very poor imagination, I just can not get off without visual stimulation, but it has always been that way, even before I had access to porn. I also never phantasize. When I see an attractive woman irl I am incapable of imagining having sex with her, simply because there is no image in my head. I don't think I'm addicted to porn, but when it comes to masturbation it's just a neccessary tool for me.
>>71632159
if you go without fapping long enough you wouldnt even need to imagine anything. just the feeling will get you off
