http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/20/utah-governor-herbert-declares-porn-public-health-crisis
>Gov. Gary Herbert signing a declaration that says “pornography perpetuates a sexually toxic environment.”
>threatens families, threatens our young people, and is very destructive, in fact, on society as a whole,” said Herbert.
Defend this pol
He's fucking right
sorry
>>71597731
He is absolutely correct.
>>71597731
>threatens families, threatens our young people, and is very destructive, in fact, on society as a whole
But he's right tho.
>>71597731
thats like 50 years to late
>>71597731
>watch porn from age 12
>masturbate almost daily
>fail to get a lasting erection during sex
>start going clean
If I knew porn was going to damage my libido so bad I would probably have taken more consideration. Now I have to block myself from porn just to reverse the addictive damage.
4chan is a public health crisis
hell, the whole internet is, China has the right idea
>>71598288
if you're here on 4chan you've failed already though
>>71597826
>>71597909
>>71597917
>>71597924
>>71598288
no
>>71598345
This.
>porn a public health crisis
>having 3 wives a-okay
>>71598424
time to report this thread before it gets derailed by perverts like you
4chan is degenerate and can't fix anything or be "conservative"
>>71597826
>>71597909
>>71597917
>>71597924
>>71598288
The fuck is wrong with you guys?
Jerking off a few times a week isn't gonna kill you, it's perfectly natural.
Fuck this backwards religious mindset that exists in politics, what the fuck happened to the first amendment? It's pretty fucking embarrassing having our politicians talk about "MUH GAWD" and "MUH BIBLE" on stage.
>>71598288
So much this.
>>71597731
>defend utah
I would rather die first
>>71598499
>>implying if you're on 4chan you only do it a few times a week
>>implying the first ammendment ever covered obsecnity until kikes lobbied for it
anyway Utah isn't even banning it, just educating about it
>>71598499
Pornography and masturbation aren't equivalent, retard.
4chan is something FAR worse than tumblr and reddit, it's a safe space for unrepentant perverts.
at least Reddit is just full of genuine idiots
4chan is full of people who knowingly do evil.
Porn taught women to only accept dicks the size of your leg. This is why European women vote to bring in refugee BBCs by the boatload.
Porn = White Genocide.
>>71597731
How much you guys wanna bet that he is a ted cruz supporter?
>>71598565
>anyway Utah isn't even banning it, just educating about it
That's actually a sensible thing to do, so many people don't realize porn addiction is a thing and subtly fucks with you.
>>71597731
Great now watch as in a few months feminists will agree with him so they can have the sole power over hetero's sexuality.
As an alcoholic, I can stand to go a few days without drinking. Porn, at most, I can do without for 36 hours and that's assuming I get a handjob from my wife.
>>71598640
4chan is a bunch of harmless NEETs for the most part. They're not evil, evil requires action.
>>71598640
>>71597731
It's common knowledge that Utah is the largest porn consuming state.
A Guilty conscience isn't a reason to rob citizens of their constitutional rights
>>71597731
/pol/ utterly and totally BTFO
>>71598635
You're correct.
>>71597731
Utah is fucking weird as fuck
>>71597731
this is just a distraction; a bible cuck looking for attention
suck AIPAC dick harder you faggots
>>71598499
Blue pilled as fuck
Imagine an entire generation substituting sex for fapping. Why would they bother to do anything to improve themselves?
Porn culture is destroying the west and if you don't see it you are an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMmOAd2FVrE
I mean, the fact that a kid can turn the TV and see Miley Cyrus or Niki Minaj should be enough of a concern.
>>71598819
going on 4chan IS supporting porn.
it's supporting the spread of porn to the youth via /b/ and all other easily accessible boards
hell at this point using the internet at all is supporting porn
>>71598914
and 4chan culture is a major part of porn culture
come out of this place, it's not a good place to be
>>71598499
you could jerk off all you want just don't support porn. Porn exploits vulnerable women who were raised by hollywood due to having family issues. Hollywood owns the porn industry so they are literally farming vulnerable women to keep their disgusting abuse going.
>>71598499
Beating off is fine.
Porn is pure, unadulterated, mind poison.
How old were you when you realized the old ways were wiser than we knew?
Porn is bad for you. Weed is bad for you. Premarital sex is bad for you.
I was about 25.
I wish I'd known sooner.
>>71598896
and substituting conversation for anonymous forums.
the only thing that would ACTUALLY fix these problem is shutting down the whole internet.
>>71598458
>>71599048
Nope, it's 100% true.
you attack reddit out of pure guilt.
>>71598914
Based E. Michael Jones
>being surprised a bunch of Mormon cultist nutters condemn porn
The holy rollers are the reason most men in America have their cocks butchered a few days after birth by Dr. Shekelstein.
>>71598896
Fapping isn't a problem. It's feminist fag """progressives""" the offer nothing as a mate. Bubble-wrap bible cucks are bluepilled as fuck and play along with the kike-engineered narrative crafted in washington think tanks.
It's like when they acted like fag marriage was a big deal when no-fault divorce and single moms destroyed marriage 40 years ago.
You fags can't see real problems if America depended on it.
>>71597731
Bye, Herbert
>>71599180
True, the mormons won't do anything to actually expose WHO is behind the porn industry because they suck Israeli and Masonic cock
>>71597826
Recent study showed that porn users where more inclined to show positive/respectful attitudes to women. So no.
I know
>social science studies
But it makes sense to me.
>>71599109
I admit I definitely do have a difference of opinion when it comes to degeneracy.
>>71599180
I hate my fuckface cuck kike goy parents for mutilating my cock. Fuck the kikes and fuck the no fun allowed biblecucks.
>>71598964
The internet is a huge factor, yes. However the problem with the internet is not precesily if it's allowed or not, but how it is marketed and to who is it marketed towards.
Seriously +18 warnings are fucking stupid, it's clearly not enough.
>>71597731
Sure whatever
Its not like i jerk it to anything but 2d these days
>>71597731
The internet in general is a public health crisis.
You're fucked if you don't learn how to control your time in front of this thing, doubly so if you already have procrastination tendencies.
At least with porn there's a release unless you edge yourself for hours or some shit. With here it's just more information constantly, click scroll click scroll, harder to pull away with each passing hour.
>>71599226
Catholic Legion of Decency revival when?
>>71598640
Why is porn evil?
>falling for the 3dpd pussy trap
Nothing can take me away from 2D
>>71597731
Our legal philosophy is based on negative rights -- it is government that is limited, not the governed -- and government action requires clear definitions. How is he defining porn?
>>71599406
State governments always had the power to enact moral laws to some degree as long as they didn't interfere with the constitution.
but this is beside the point, Herbert isn't even trying to ban anything.
>>71599368
he doesn't like it and/or had a problem controlling his usage of it at some point
>>71597731
this is 4chan
just fucking look around you
>Watching porn
>Fucking your own sisters, daughters
Which one is more toxic, Utah?
>>71598976
Why are they all so ugly?
>>71597731
Hes not wrong
>>71599593
Most mormons don't do that anymore.
Either way you don't have to be a Mormon to agree with what he's saying
>>71599326
>The internet in general is a public health crisis.
More like there's people out there with hardly any self control.
Porn is mind poison though, it fucks up your dopamine in your brain, it becomes addictive because you enjoy that dopamine rush from an orgasm, it's literally the same thing as a hard drug. And guess what? We're all taught that porn is normal and healthy, thanks mr shekelstein!
Overactivation of dopamine sectors in the brain through masturbation leads to decreased response to other dopamine inducing activities, mandating more dangerous activities and sexual interests to achieve identical levels of arousal.
More you bate, less sensitive you are to pleasure, more extreme avenues to arousal you seek. It's that simple. Masturbation prompts crime.
>>71599687
>More like there's people out there with hardly any self control.
The problem with 'self-control' is that it's such a fickle concept. And this goes into a whole discussion about free will that's probably best saved for another day. But I digress.
I'm not disagreeing with you that porn is unhealthy, but spending time on here for hours just mindless browsing, I'd argue, is worse than porn use, in that you're just binging on something else. Two sides of the same destructive coin, really.
>>71597826
Everybody here has looked at porn.
The widespread opioid abuse and bad air quality here took a back seat to this, by the way
t. Utahn
For you people saying it is toxic, how many times per week is healthy?
Jerking it is cuck life.
Fuck porn. KILL ALL THE DEGENERATE SCUM
>>71599925
start by killing all 4chan users. Even the better ones aren't worth keeping alive desu
>>71599916
Porn - 0
Fapping - 2-3x
>>71599886
>The widespread opioid abuse
The state government is to blame for that. My dad got told by Hatch to take his Oxy like a good boy because its better for him than pot.
>>71597731
porn is probably the biggest problem facing american society today
>>71599687
This. i knew a guy that got into porn. His grades started dropping and he flunked out of school. He started begging for money on the streets but eventually resorted to mugging people to pay for his addiction. He's serving 5 years in prison now.
>lets ban this thing men enjoy to do instead of their male responsibilities
>lets completely ignore that our women, who used to give birth in their teens, are now delaying their motherly role into their mid thirties and instead spending their youth on social media
>>71599856
>The problem with 'self-control' is that it's such a fickle concept. And this goes into a whole discussion about free will that's probably best saved for another day. But I digress.
How is it a fickle concept? You just get off your fucking ass and do something else. You should stop telling yourself that it's fickle. And this is coming from someone that quit smoking.
>I'm not disagreeing with you that porn is unhealthy, but spending time on here for hours just mindless browsing, I'd argue, is worse than porn use, in that you're just binging on something else. Two sides of the same destructive coin, really.
I mean you could call it mindless if all you do is shitpost, but there's actual political discussion here sometimes and at least you learn something. What do you learn from watching porn? Absolutely nothing.
Utah gov is right. Porn shapes people's perceptions and that has a negative effect on society. You ever think why women want that black cock? Cause they see it on porn. You ever think why Asian men are undervalued in the market? Lack of representation in porn. You ever think why muscular bodies and aggressive sex is valued over normal bodies and normal marital sex? Porn.
>>71600044
Kek, seriously?
I'm a recovering benzo addict and recovering alcoholic and I just can't see mugging people for porn. I never even did it for booze.
>>71599180
Circumcision is a sin, so either America is Jewish/Muslim or Jewish slaves.
>>71600168
either he's baiting, or this happened in a time before the internet
>>71600168
no he's retarded and so are you.
Utahfag here
Everyone in this godforsaken state is extremely sexually repressed by the LDS church, and everyone watches a shit ton of porn
I guarantee the Mormons are 100% behind this, they own the entire legislature. They don't want people to masturbate or drink alcohol.
It's a theocracy here
>>71600168
it was a very specific fetish that eventually escalated to the real world
>>71598640
Fuck off retard
>>71600005
So fapping without porn? like in old days?
>>71600236
Mormons also own the NSA
I don't agree with all their views but theoretically under Trump they could easily purge the net of degeneracy, and they're watching you right now
>>71600083
There's genetic factors when it comes to addiction, specifically with a lower dopamine receptor amount than a normal person.
Addiction is 60% genetics and 40% environmental. Some of us lack self control, at least when using.
>>71598640
safe space for unrepentant perverts
5555555555555555
>against porn
>needs polygamy to keep his sex life fresh
Daily reminder to never trust a Mormon.
>>71597731
I would be more sympathetic to his words if welfare wasn't a thing that is FAR more destructive to the youth, families, and society as a whole.
>>71597731
Porn is needed to see how low whores can go for money. Without porn they will still be whores walking the street.
Degenerate activity around prostitutes and pimps will rise because of people needing hookers.
>>71597731
I can't because he is right being a victim of porn myself I can see the huge effects it has had on my life and how it has perverted my view on sex into some disgusting fetishes. Fuck porn only thing that should be allowed imo is just nude women posing or masturbating that's it.
>>71600299
>they could easily purge the net of degeneracy
I work at an ISP and you have no idea what you are talking about.
>>71597731
video games + porn + 4chan + reddit.
pretty much 99% of the internet is causing problems in one way or another.
we just dont know how to properly use them.
>>71599684
All actual Mormons don't do this.
only the fake apostate idiot Mormons do that shit
>>71600299
We also have the NSA's biggest data repository facility for storing information
>>71600343
Even a libertarian can't object to this law.
it's NOT banning anything at all. Just educating and giving parents easier methods of keeping it away from kids. If anything this is the most libertarian-friendly path to take
Mormons believe coffee is degenerate, yet they do not ban it.
Its a virtue to live without vices.
>>71600236
Hi Utahbro.
I like Utah overall, but the LDS people trying to force their morality on everyone else via the legislature is rediculous.
What you do in the privacy of your own home is your business. The government can fuck off.
Why is it that /pol/ is all against big government till it's something they find personally distasteful.
>>71600083
>What do you learn from watching porn? Absolutely nothing.
Not true, you learn what you find attractive and arousing, but if it gets to shit like octopus tentacle penetration then yeah back away.
>How is it a fickle concept? You just get off your fucking ass and do something else.
The 'pull yourself up by the bootstraps' approach doesn't work for everyone. You can be as hardline as you want but the brain doesn't work that way. People, by nature, seek out pleasurable information, which is why you get people who lose themselves for hours in front of, say, World of Warcraft for hours. If you're more readily able to harness self-discipline, good for you, but others require a different approach.
They can't pull away from the screen, at least not readily. For all intents and purposes they're not even there...they're just gone, sucked into a world where life's problems are non-existent.
'Get off your ass and do something else,' while direct, will not provide consistent results. Some will, others won't. In the end find what works for you.
>>71600333
>3 trips
Not five but still great. Well done anon.
>>71600518
> Not true, you learn what you find attractive and arousing
The problem is that this isn't exactly fair. There are still underrepresented races that don't perform as male talent. Therefore women overvalue races common in porn and undervalue other races.
We can see this in interracial hookups/dating/marriages, etc. If you've ever been against multiculturalism, you must be against porn.
>>71600460
Gtfo if you truly believe it only affects you.
Porn has societal effects- it encourages sexual promiscuity, fetishizes minorities which inevitably leads to racial tension, and normalizes bizarre fetishes as virtually every porn user will end up watching increasingly fucked up stuff.
>>71597731
pornography distracts people and makes them more carnal, more focused on their baser desires like animals.
animals are simple to train and easy to control. they respond to stimulus in predictable ways. humans are not so simple, but porn makes it easier.
NoFap said fapping without porn is still bad
>vagina will generate less sensation which i completely agree
So what is the solution for this? I can't schedule my sex activities. What if you are single? So no fapping at all?
>>71600799
Quit projecting your sick mind and thoughts onto everyone else around you, gayfag.
>>71600044
Hey funny I know a guy who was pretty open about watching porn and guess what, he lives a perfectly normal life!
>>71600799
>Porn has societal effects
I am sure for a weak person like you it is. For me its no issue. You might not be able to avoid fapping yourself to death but once and a while is good enough for me. Perhaps you need to find a way to control your urges before you question mine.
>>71600922
10/10 rebuttal
>>71597731
>sexually toxic environment
What the fuck does that even mean?
>>71597731
He isn't wrong.
Sometimes people don't want to hear about virtue because it makes then realize they have many vices.
>>71598499
You bluepilled cuck. Beating it in itself isn't degenerate, it's the beating it to the Jewish porn industry and lust that makes it degenerate.
>>71600236
it's funny because every mormon guy looks at porn. the repression makes the urges to look at it stronger. in the process of growing up i inadvertently caught so many doing it. we would joke with my friends about how we'd all caught our dads looking at it.
>>71598499
this faggot is panicking when someoen insults his porn
you literally belong to leddit subhuman degenerate porn consuming slobworm. kill yourself
>>71600799
Are you actually going to back up these claims or just fire off buzzwords?
>>71600788
I'm against porn in that it's an unproductive activity that's comparable to binging on burgers and chocolate, but I am set in thinking that internet overuse is far worse.
>>71600863
NoFap is a worthless challenge if you're just going to replace fapping time with shitpost and internet surfing time. The point is to become productive.
>>71601025
It means they cant control themselves so they must think we cant. Its more of a testament to their daily lives than any of ours if they struggle each day to not beat off all day long.
>>71600976
Lol look up the definition of "societal" fuckface. It means society. Not me. As the poster above mentioned- if you are against multiculturalism the slightest you should be against porn.
But you're probably not because you're probably a faggot leftist cuck who believes everyone has the "right" to degeneracy.
>>71600976
It's not about individual people you ingrate. It's about what effects it has on society.
>>71601025
What the fuck do you think that means? Young people are doing some depraved shit today. They're putting it on for show on the internet to boot. It's also fucking up the dating game b/c in reality it's hookup game with a bunch of depraved people getting with each other. You have to adapt yourself to that or you sink.
>>71597731
All I need to do is send him a picture of myself naked with the question "Do you honestly think any girl will have sex with me?" He'll tear up that declaration right quick.
>>71601187
you also have to oppose the world wide web if you're truly against globalism and multiculturalism.
just look at this site - people from all around the world sucked into the same homogenous meme machine
the internet itself destroys cultures and local community. Russia is trying to have a segregated net and so is China.
>>71600976
>>71600922
>>71601170
This is correct. Some people simply have more control than others.
Not everyone that is into it is going to become a Ted Bundy.
It should be limited and/or eliminated from your life if possible.
>>71601187
>It means society. Not me.
I see no proof but your own words here. You dont speak for society. You have an inability to control yourself i get it, but I do. So I should not be punished for your character flaws.
>>71601205
>It's not about individual people you ingrate.
You would like me to think so with your words alone, but you lack self control. I would not trust you with a dog I liked. You would end up killing it I bet.
>>71601187
For it to be "societal", it has to be pandemic, and statistically likley to happen.
I'm sorry, but I don't go into work every day and half the office is beating off under their desk.
I don't spend ungodly amounts of time watching porn.
The only way you can say porn leads down some inevitable death sprial is if you have a personal problem you are crusading against.
>>71601316
Every one of those girls has had 40 partners. Tell me that's not sick.
Wait, so is it just 3D porn or is 2D porn also bad?
I'm not gonna stop with either. Just curious what the science has to say
>>71599268
Studies have also shown that exposure to porn causes a lot of problems with the perception of sex in young people. Same thing as loaded kids up with sugar or too much TV. What makes you think the end result would be different?
>>71599368
I can't speak for the psychological effects of porn but the porn industry isn't exactly the most upstanding industry out there.
>>71600518
Not true, you learn what you find attractive and arousing, but if it gets to shit like octopus tentacle penetration then yeah back away.
Dude are you trying to argue that you learn more from porn than you do on here? kek. If you've been watching porn for years then you're not learning shit.
>The 'pull yourself up by the bootstraps' approach doesn't work for everyone
I agree, but at the same time there are people who don't even try the approach. It's not hard to understand that when you realize you're wasting your life with something, that you should do something else. And those who you say can't pull away at all are rare cases, and most the time it is their fault for lack of self-control and time management. I guess there are people out there that really do get lost in video games though, i used to be one of them until i decided they're a massive time sink with 0 productivity and you learn nothing applicable to real life.
>>71601415
>Tell me that's not sick.
Its why you wear a hat boss, but I bet you did not know that trick.
>>71601440
still bad for your own mental health, but at least it isn't supporting whores
>>71601390
I lack so much self control that I made a choice not to be a part of this degeneracy and I'm in my 30's. Finding someone who isn't as degenerate is like walking through a minefield.
>>71601504
What does that have to do with anything? Do you realize that in another time, those women could've been proper marriage prospects? But the reality is that the vast majority are not.
>>71601594
well if you used it into your 30's maybe you don't deserve a pure wife.
that's the painful truth. Are you really any better than a "reformed" slut
>>71601594
I am just going to take all of that as your admission you lack facts. Thanks for proving me right that you are not talking on behalf of society. If you have self control issues you might want to see someone about that. Its an indication of a much deeper problem that if not solved can get you into lots of trouble.
>>71601161
>>71601390
>>71601408
If you honestly don't see any negative societal effects of porn usage I encourage you to research it. No, I don't have time to accumulate a ton of sources to post on here for you. If you want to believe I'm totally and utterly wrong in my assertions then that is your perogative. But I've done the research myself and I've looked at trends. However a good place to start is the organization Fight the New Drug which documents how porn triggers the same addictive, negative brain activity as any physical drug does. I encourage you to visit their site. It isn't a religious organization. They use statistics and case studies. They aren't working to ban porn but they are working to educate about the vast negative effects of it. and I do hope you look into it because I'm confident you'll come to the same conclusion I did.
>>71601205
to be fair the very concept of "dating" fucked up the marriage game decades ago.
arranged marriages work much better, but sadly the west abandoned it for "romance" which was really started by porn for females in the form of novels
>>71600443
A libertarian would say it's not the government's job to "educate" the people
>>71601990
>societal
>>71600419
>no true scotsman
>>71601496
>Dude are you trying to argue that you learn more from porn than you do on here?
Nowhere did I say that. Talking more about the internet as a whole. Sure you do get moments where you engage in productive conversation and exchange ideas, but it's still within that same arena of hopping from info source to info source. 4chan is conversational porn, to an extent.
>I agree, but at the same time there are people who don't even try the approach.
Many do try and realize it's not for them. I'm one of them, as a diagnosed sperg I flip out under stress easily but had enough self-awareness to find ways to temper it, more in terms of relaxation practices, getting fit, etc.
>And those who you say can't pull away at all are rare cases, and most the time it is their fault for lack of self-control and time management.
>rare cases
kek, you're flat-out wrong here. Is it any wonder to you why the amount of SJW snowflakes are increasing? Environmentally we're breeding a culture of hypersensitivity and constant distraction.
Their fault? When they harness the self-awareness, but it's hard to peg all of the blame onto them when they're being constantly inundated with distraction after distraction. Just the world we live in today.
>>71602144
But he's right. Only the FLDS people practice polygamy
The official church will excommunicate you if you're caught in polygamy
>>71601990
>not religious
Literally ever person in charge is Mormon in that organization. Also this argument is akin to telling an agnostic or whatever to prove God doesn't exist. The default position is the absence of belief in a cause or what not. That said, sure, I'll do my research.
>>71597731
STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE!
>>71601664
What the hell are you talking about? I've never used a condom because I never bought into degeneracy.
>>71601909
Wtf you talking about?
>>71601993
agreed.
>>71602375
YOUR choices go against MY religion!
Yeah, 3D porn is fucking garbage trash and watching it literally makes you a cuck.
Now, drawn, Nipponese porn, has artistic merit.
It is therefore superior and should not be restricted.
>>71599268
>porn users where more inclined to show positive/respectful attitudes to women
is that really a good thing?
>>71597731
>do you possess anything illegal, sir?
This would be glorious.
>>71602445
Hentai is actually not that bad. Because it's pure fantasy and non-relatable, it doesn't cause people to go out and seek what they see in it, b/c they can't. Hentai is just something to jerk to.
>>71602464
So we shouldn't be nice to women because...? Some are scummy? Okay, well so are plenty of men.
>>71602384
>Wtf you talking about?
That you have no real facts outside of your own personal failings. Why else would you fight for this. If you did not have porn blocked from the internet it would turn you into a frothing retard.
As for me I have a strong will and can take things in moderation. I come from a family of alcoholics. I don't go to bars, and I would never have the audacity to protest people that go to them. My personal failings do not hold us all back.
Unless you have a direct argument against that I would say we are done with this conversation.
>>71598424
>No porn isn't degenerate
>Posts mindbreak trap porn
>>71597731
Yup, as much as porn is common place, it's toxic and everyone would be better off without it. Sure you could argue it helps rapists with their 'sexual emergencies', but porn is only a temporary solution to an ever-growing problem with lust. It's like taking drugs to solve your drug addiction.
>>71602606
imo the worst thing about hentai , though not as bad as 3d porn for society as a whole, is that it can hook children. Anyone who searches for their favorite characters on google will run into porn of it, even under safe search
>>71602672
arranged marriage when?
literally THE only way to undo the sexual revolution.
>>71602701
Yeah and you shouldn't let your fucking kids on the compuutah unrestricted anyway, anyone can look up all kinds of fucked up shit in seconds.
>>71597731
There are two types of people
>People that see this webm and laugh
>And people that see this webm and get stiff
Gov. Gary Herbert is the latter.
>Utah
I don't really want to defend it. Can you just take em?
>>71602654
To be fair at least those people have that as an outlet instead of just bottling their degenercy up until they go off the wall insane and end up on the news.
>>71600443
>it's NOT banning anything at all.
What is slippery slope? It is only a matter of time when condemns on the official level will start to morph into prohibition laws. Even for things that are specially protected by Constitution. Will you ever learn?
I lost my virginity after I quit porn because I actually went out and tried to interact with women
give it a try for at least 2 months
>>71601478
So like every other industry ?
>>71602873
That poor goat.
>>71598914
Who runs porn?
>walk into your sister's room
>see this
what do?
>>71597731
so, when will the jews kill him
>>71602888
Pretty much yeah.
>>71602970
Stroke her cock and fuck her up the butt?
>>71602990
never, because Mormons are closet Freemasons. So they can tell half the truth as long as it never actually names the Jew
>>71597731
Did he catch his supposedly upstanding Mormon son whacking it to tranny porn or something?
>>71597826
/thread
>>71603040
>never, because Mormons are closet Freemasons.
interesting.
>>71602641
What in the actual fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about the SOCIETAL DECAY caused by porn, not any personal shit that you or I have.
it would be in violation of the 1st amendment to ban porn
>>71597731
He didn't outlaw porn. He signed a paper saying it's bad for you and... that's it. I'm fairly certain the American Psychological Association already said this years ago.
>>71603087
The Gov. probably bonered on this one.
>>71602990
You don't understand how rich and powerful the Mormons are
>>71603142
did you even read the article.
HE IS NOT BANNING IT
How come you see these stories about Mormons always coming out like some weird serial killers or killing ppl a whole shit load. Remember Jodi Arias and that whole thing.
>>71603133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwLviskWpyY
>>71603151
>The Gov. probably bonered on this one
Well who wouldn't?
Mormons are like Orthodox Jews.
The average members are moral, upstanding people who have strong families.
But they are misled by the leadership who serve the devil
>>71597826
FPBP
It's entirely unnatural for the lifestyle we've gotten used to over the past thousands of years.
>>71601445
Startee wanking when I was like 13. I like regular sex, the thought of anything else is gross. Am I an exceprion?
>>71597731
>threatens families
Next these cucks will say we need to ban paternity tests because it threatens families, like France did
Christcucks are the worst
Based Utah Governer, porn is degenerate and is LITERALLY SUCKING the testosterone out of millions of men including young white men like myself. I have not jacked off for 2 days now and I have not touched a video game in a week. I have decided that video games have no purpose what so ever other than trying to reach a goal in a virtual reality that contributes nothing to society, and porn goes hand and hand with video games. Porn decreases your energy and is dangerous for your cock. Work out, try to avoid video games and porn and you will be taking your first step in helping the white race.
>>71598972
lol wut. Nigger fucker Barbie Cummings said in an interview she was so poor White trash, she used to survive on mustard sandwiches in the trailer park. Porn helped her escape. Her life was literally saved by the BBC.
>>71597731
$100 this faggot has a massive loli collection on an unencrypted hard drive.
>>71603133
In case you're curious:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Freemasonry
>>71599268
it goes the other way around
people who consume lots and lots of pornography are generally beta, docile men who would never hurt a woman under any circumstances.
>>71603393
Which is why we should stop listening to their stupid crap.
No one has the balls to live in a fact-based society. It's one taboo or the other.
>>71597731
BAN 3DPD FILTH
UTAH 2D ONLY NOW
>>71603465
epic. everybody take note of this poster because he has truly btfo once and for all everybody in this thread
>>71603138
You seriously cannot be fixed if you cannot understand what is going on here. Its not society we need to talk about. Its you.
You have an issue with pron that none of us do. Until you fix that you will think that everyone else has the issue as well. You are projecting your personal failings onto society to make you think that everyone is weak like you. I am explaining to you that I am not a weakling like you are. I can watch pron every once and a while and not have my life go down the drain like yours does.
>>71600267
men were doing it for thousands of years. There is literally nothing abnormal about fapping without porn.
>>71603532
Too much porn is consumed annually to be only cucks who watch it.
>>71598408
This. The random semon demons that get posted in threads that have nothing to do with the topic are enough to get my brain going back on the same train of thought.
>>71603347
>The average members are moral, upstanding people who have strong families.
Kek no
Utah has the highest rate of porn consumption and all those bored housewives have resulted in an epidemic of opiate painkiller abuse amongst Mormon women
They also go full degenerate when not around other Mormons
How do you stop a Mormon from drinking your beer?
Make sure there's another Mormon around
>>71603641
most men are beta cucks.
also, I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of the total porn consumption is consumed by a smaller percentage of users.
>/pol/ hasn't taken the redpill on porn and masturbation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWM4bJNpch0
Watch the entire thing to break your conditioning.
>>71598499
50 years ago i would argue fapping to playboys was just kids being kids now you have 10 years olds into hardcore femdom BBW trampling and they can watch it from their tablets
>>71603744
They're also very two faced and judgemental and fake
>>71603745
>most men are beta cucks
Um, no.
As for your second claim you're probably right in that there are definitely a few people who consume a ton of porn, but I'm skeptical that it's enough to make porn literally the biggest industry in the US.
>>71603773
I masturbated to this video.
>>71600236
>>71601139
I thought mormons bought the most porn online because even if they were sinful masturbators they were not thieves
>>71603946
I don't know about that. Why would you buy porn when there's so much free shit out there?
>>71602808
was expecting him to take a fat shit desu
>>71598499
When i watch porn and im not having sex i really do notice i lose my mind a bit. That stuff is subversive af. But if im having sex i see clearly again.
It reAlly is better to just wank blank
>>71603532
but WOMEN who consume large amounts of pornography are absolute degenerates.
Send all refugees to Utah.
>>71597731
Porn would be fine in small doses, but the overconsumption of it does much more harm than what most people realize. It fucks up your libido and makes you significantly more likely to have erectile dysfunction later in life.
You can still jack off whenever you want, but just try to think about the hot neighbor mostly and not watch three ways between 3 godlike attractive people.
>>71604095
Fuck no keep Utah white
>>71604024
because streaming for free is stealing and those girls worked hard taking mandingo dick.
the fact that porn stars get no streaming revenue is super jewy though, thats why all the big stars are doing webcam shows now
I hate nanny state mormons that want to take personal responsibility away from retards that cannot control themselves. If you cannot control yourself perhaps you need an easy way to make it so you dont breed.
>>71604024
because you're rich
>>71603773
>nobodytm
Oh what the goddamn fuck. I'd forgotten about that.
>>71598288
I watch porn and jerk off daily when im not staying over at my girlfriends place. We have a great sex life without any problems.
What the fuck are you doing?
>>71600168
It happens. Former alcoholic as well, you'd be surprised at what people can get addicted to. Bet you didn't know people can become addicted to working out too (although that's only among extreme athletes).
>dont approach women because thats rape
>No, dont watch porn either
>also accept trannies and fags
I WANT OFF THIS RIDE!
>>71597731
ITT
>stormtards agree with mormon retards because they think nofap is the path for white nationalists and not broscience
>>71604266
Congrats, you have an unusually high libido.
There's literally nothing wrong with porn desu~!
After all, real 3DPD women are the worst desu~!
>>71603598
YOU FUCKING MORON SHUT THE FUCK UP IN BRED MOTHERFUCKER
Races are fetishes = Unable to see people who they are rather than the colors or features of their race. This promotes race-mixing, ignores socio-economic class, favors physical attributes over attributes that advance and continue society.
Representation = Over representation with some races and under representation with some races mean that people's PREFERENCES are shaped by what THEY SEE, chosen by SOMEONE ELSE, and not REALITY, not REAL RELATIONSHIPS
Male usage of porn can be controlled by female usage of porn leads to complete and utter degeneracy. Girls strive to become fuck sluts (some do it in secret, others publicize). This leads to poisoning or diluting the dating pool b/c they're filled by people who just want to fuck. It pulls in people who otherwise don't want to hookup, into hooking up because it's what other people are doing.
Porn is fucking degenerate. Please shut the fuck up if you don't have anything to contribute to this fucking discussion.
>>71600460
>Misspelled ridiculous
Stopped reading there
I wank to pictures on facebook sometimes.
Does this count as pornography? Am I a degenerate?
>>71604095
>>71604126
>two people who have never been to Utah
I used to live in Salt Lake City. There are very few American blacks, but a shitton of Somalis and Sudanese. There was even an Africa neighborhood called "black town."
I will say the Salt Lake Valley is heavily segregated with most ethnic in the North West quadrant, and the rest being pretty White, but with annoying Mormon Stacys everywhere.
>>71604126
Fuck those Mormon fuckers. Let's see how accepting they are with some Mohammads raping their kids.
>>71602654
she wanted dick the whole time it's not mindbreak
>>71597731
as much as i like my porn and i try to cut it off, he's right
/pol/ and WEEABS gtfo
>>71604566
Nah the only reason to stop watching porn is because its subversive mind rape. Facebook fapping is perfectly fine
>>71604188
B-but surely the white race will benefit from idiots breeding like niggers!
>>71604567
>two people who have never been to Utah
I'm sitting in Utah right now. But yes we have a lot of Pacific Islanders and Mexicans, and some areas with blacks.
But it's mostly white and low crime for now
>>71604450
Isn't it rather the libido issue instead of a porn issue...
>>71597731
>threatens families, threatens our young people, and is very destructive, in fact, on society as a whole
He's right though.
The whole porn thing encourages men to not do anything with themselves. It isn't an identifiable issue on the scale of alcoholism or drug addiction, but it really is fucking up how a lot of men think and act.
it is time.
>watching porn is bad and is destroying society
>however letting people with serious mental illnesses act upon these illnesses with permanent effects its a ok
>>71604444
checked. nofap is good discipline and when i was 20 i would fap for 2 hours a day and put off homework and sleep
>>71604538
You have made your point clear. You are a bootlicker for the state and are most likely a fascist. You want them to pass laws because you are a failure at life. I feel any laws by the state are made by cowards who cannot keep their pants zipped.
>>71604995
Where in the article does he express such sentiment?
>>71605039
>when i was 20 i would fap for 2 hours a day and put off homework and sleep
I do that now and I'm 27
>>71598499
If you think the only reason to be against porn is "muh Jesus" then you really are fucking oblivious to how it affects the brain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
>>71597731
Gov goes home and fucks his 14 year old wife, one of 10 wife's.
>>71605048
How am I a failure at life? Because I want to see society return to normal? Because I want to see good people make a comeback? I don't fucking understand what kind of person you think I am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG_NJgSHZIM
>>71605293
>How am I a failure at life?
Because this a personal failing of yours and think all of us have that issue by extension when in-reality we do not. Decrees by the state are made by cowards who see their failings in others.
Utah anon here,even in an ideal situation Utah sex Ed is too poor to grasp a healthy sexual lifestyle. Porn is the only actual education available
>>71605473
What's this personal failing? I have normal relationships because I see normal people. However when I look outwards, I see degeneracy. This is pol. We are against degeneracy. We talk about it and we show examples of it all the fucking time. If you are not against degeneracy then why the fuck are you here?
>>71604743
That's sort of the problem not a lot of people understand about porn, some people can handle seeing it everyday just fine depending on the strength of their libido and how sexually active they are.
Some people can't, either because they lack self control or they use it to replace relationships as a self esteem issue, which also decreases their already weakened mindset. So if you can handle it , go for it.
>>71605525
>However when I look outwards
This is my issue with you. When you look outwards you see others making mistakes you think you will make. It tells me this is a personal thing not one that all of us have. Work on your own garden, and when you see me working on mine. Fuck off back into your house. I dont care for your moralizing, and I have no use for your advice on how you cannot stop thinking about others beating off. Is it getting clear yet?
>>71600443
It is not done with a general good in mind, rather pushing for a specific group's muh feelings
>>71605039
>Nofap is great if you're a mental defective that masturbates instead of working
You should try gassing yourself first.
>>71605697
No. It's not clear because it seems like you and I have a misunderstanding but I can't get through to you.
I have absolutely no problems feeling secure with myself. Yes, everybody fucks up, but society as a whole is fucking up, and birth rates are plunging, we see degeneracy everywhere. Violence rates are going up. It's foolish to think that you just escape back into your little hole because it's safer to be in. It doesn't mean I'm inadequate because I'm fighting for a better future of society.
>>71597731
>>Gov. Gary Herbert signing a declaration that says “pornography perpetuates a sexually toxic environment.”
>>threatens families, threatens our young people, and is very destructive, in fact, on society as a whole,” said Herbert.
Christfag rants bullsshit without any proof. Actually there is proof to the contrary just as with prostitution.
