Is this the epitome of FREEDOM?
>>71594145
epitome of freedom is freedom you retard
>>71594185
The freedom of manufacturing your own untraceable killing machine at home is freedom dick wad.
https://youtu.be/30i_6awxEG4
>>71594145
>Buy complete AR lower
>Remove serial no.
>Nobody was tracing them to begin with.
>Untraceable gun.
Now, handguns are a different story. Go buy yourself a 80% glock lower and mill that out... There's an untraceable gun worth mentioning.
>>71594958
The ATF would have a record of sale if you bought the lower.
>>71594417
>killing machine
I kill paper and soda cans mainly
>>71595388
Can said bullets also kill human beings?
I dont understand.couldn't you just cnc an entire gun? Heard kids doing this in class what's the allure? Are we talking about well built guns? Why can't you just make a copy?
>>71594958
>any LE ever sees your defaced receiver
better lube your ass deep
>>71594417
those killing machines can be used to deprive people of their freedom
>>71595793
I watched Drugs Inc and there's entire communities on Pacific islands where people build copies of hand guns using literal midevil smiting techniques. They sale them to criminals
>>71596023
And restore it
>>71596062
Exactly. I know shite ones were built here but they werent /k/ and did it as proof of concept / scratch diagrams. Surely not every machinist is as morally sound as my comrades.
>>71596062
>midevil
>sale
Fucking chicanos
what does usa think about pic related?
>>71596556
It's a cute lil gun.
>>71594145
>build 80%
>buy all your parts online
I heard today that commiefornia is going to ban 80%ers
>>71596556
I've shot the 357 version a bit. 200+ rounds.
it's my dad's gun and he did the week course at front sight with it. the blue gel insert in the grill really works, you can burn through a whole box of hot 357 without noticing.
I'd say do it.
>>71596672
Source pls
>>71595769
No. Bullets don't kill people, niggers do.
>>71596871
15 or so bills just passed the senate, check calguns. one included banning bullet buttons.
>>71594145
Is that a good thing?
I'm struggling to find uses for a firearm which is untraceable which don't involve committing a crime. Or is this to do with not trusting the justice system to believe you when you say you defended yourself from someone?
>>71597818
it's also cheaper to build your own gun.
>>71594145
Epitome of freedom is a self-sufficiency without goverment interference.
>>71594145
Wow cool red dot sight.
>>71597818
defending yourself from muzzies in a totalitarian hellhole
>>71597818
It's mainly a statement pretty much 99% of the rifles in the US can't be traced anyway because of the amount of times they can change hands with nothing but a firm handshake. There is no rifle registry and the handgun system isn't really a registry more than a vague idea of how many guns a person has.
>>71596672
They gotta ban all remotely gun shaped pieces of metal for that to work.
I hate this fucking state. I wish I could find a job as good as the one I have now somewhere else.
>>71599392
NJ, Cali or NY?
>>71594145
>tfw building an AR with an 80% lower in Commiefornia
The state failed me so now I have to take matters in my own hands, its really cheap and you can do what ever you want with it.
>>71599476
Cali
planning on building an AR-15 this summer. I'm not terribly handy so it should be a fun learning experience
>>71595769
Yes but so can my fists, alcohol, cars, water, and hammers.
>>71600446
It's not bad. Once you get the hang of things you can assemble a lower sitting on your bed.
Assembling uppers had me worried for a while, but really besides needing a few tools, it's not any more difficult.
>>71595793
I know a guy who makes his own guns doing exactly that
Its pretty cool shit
>>71597818
It's a fuck you to the government. It's also fun and makes it more you own and cheaper. Why would a criminal do it? I'd they were willing to do that much work they could hold a decent job. Also quicker and easier to buy off the black market or steal.
>>71595793
To cnc the action to decent tollerances would require extremely expensive equipment. To drill a barrel, even more so
>>71596556
All of rugers pistols are nice, their rimfire ones just need the mag disconnect removed and a trigger job.
Why would you need an untraceable gun if you are not nigga robber?
>>71600704
would it be worth saving the hassle and just buying a complete upper? Do you save a lot assembling your own?
>>71596556
I have that in a .38
I removed the mazy spring to make it full auto though.
>>71601023
I see, thanks
>>71601314
>>71594958
Nice felony you got there. You know they can use tunneling microscopes to see the indents in the metal from the deformations of the numbers
>>71594185
Freedom+â„¢
>>71597818
Why does the government need to know what I own?
>>71594417
>ak 47
>bandolier of rimmed cartridges
>>71594417
Muslims have babies all the time.
Also, what do you mean by untraceable?
If it's about "ballistic fingerprinting", can't you somehow scratch barrel from inside, with metal brush or something, so that marks barrel imprints on bullet becoms different?
>>71594145
>inb4 v&
I'm a machinist, moved on to other fields. Any numpty with a least amount of skill could make a working pill tossér. Hit Homo depoe
Learn to lathe.
You can buy a metal mill/lathe that sits on a table for like 500$ and make an entire gun, or a watch or anything. lathing is incredible.
>>71601543
You can trace the rifling to a specific model of firearm, and if you have the exact firearm you can trace it to that one, but that's about it
>>71601314
No you didn't.
Or
Why?
>>71596556
thats a noice dilda m8
>>71601687
I can drop six shot in under 2 seconds in full auto
>>71601621
>kill someone
>melt gun to ash with oxy/acet torch
>walk free
>>71596556
pretty cool, I'd buy one if .22 ammo was a little cheaper.
>>71601543
You can change it's rifling fingerprint yes.
home-made rifling machines are easy.
Just run a gun with the rifling machine about 100 draws. new fingerprint. Still fires.
Of your could just break down the barrel and turn it into metal filings and rifle another barrel.
>>71601930
>Kill someone
>dissolve hockey stick in maple syrup
>360 turn
>walk free
>>71602001
>LCR in .22
Why?
>>71602079
bin that stick you fuggin criminal
>>71594145
Buy a fuckin 12 gauge off armslist, you buy it out of the back of some dudes truck and there's no paper trail
>>71594417
does this apply to canadians?
>>71602079
Damn, will maple syrup disolve my silver butter knife too?!
>>71594145
If savages in the mountains with no electricity can crank out AK-47s, I think we'll be okay, untraceable guns or not.
>>71597818
Air rifles, they dont use normal bullets which in most countries require Gun license to aqcuire. It uses compressed air to propel A Metal slug with enough energy to kill at over a good distance. Could easily build it yourself. Also if shotgun shells are easy to aqcuire then a pipe shotgun is super easy to make, just two pieces of pipe and a nail, might require some tools but is shit easy.
>>71594145
You can do that with two metal pipes, a screw, and a twelve gauge shell. Pipe A slams into pipe B with srew in bottom. Shell goes off. The end.
>>71601023
>To cnc the action to decent tollerances would require extremely expensive equipment.
>extremely expensive
Lol, no. Hobby mills can (and have) do this shit.
What about home building 1911's, is that cheaper than buying a complete one or does it end up running the same amount in the end?
>>71603181
How do you plan on machining and fitting the parts? Do you have all the gunsmithing equipment and knowledge?
>>71594145
I bought an 80% receiver once, fucked it up, and never tried working with one again.
>>71601202
You don't really save over what can be bought assembled and cheap from Palmetto or some relatively unknown company.
If you're looking to get something top tier, it can be more cost effective to assemble than to buy outright.
>>71601538
underrated
ITT people who have never heard of a gun show
(hint: you can buy guns with no backround check)
>>71604508
Only from private sellers, which you don't have to go to a gun show to meet.
If you buy from a dealer at a gun show, you still have to go through a background check.
That's why there's no 'loophole'
>>71594958
>80% glock lower
>>71604508
That's just lying.
OP here,
Prepare to have your mind BLOWN
>it's this easy
https://youtu.be/SiHdV5slQps
>>71604508
>repeating things you heard from liberals
>factually incorrect
What a surprise
>>71596556
Fun plinker for the $
>>71604590
i didnt argue any of what you said because its all correct. god bless America
>>71604703
>>71604718
its true and not a bad thing. see
>>71604732
>>71604508
>The gun show loophole meme
>>71594958
Every completed firearm is serialized and registered by the manufacturer. Finding record of sale and linking it to you is not that difficult.
80% lowers skirt this if you pay cash or by some other untraceable means. There is no record of sale at that point.
>>71603960
I fuck my first one up when the bit I was using on the finishing pass slipped an eighth of an inch. Still managed to complete it. Surprisingly easy to make.
Try again anon, I am sure you are not retarded
>>71604508
Lies
>>71594145
Too much work
>>71594145
a smoothbore shotgun. no rifling to trace, and shotguns are everywhere
>>71604853
You haven't truly made an 80% lower until you've used this shit to fix your fuckups.
>Pro-tip: Use a heatgun to speed up the immediate curing process. Still allow it to cure overnight, but you can expect it to cure without moving at that point.
>>71604853
It finished.
>>71594145
>2015+1
>not having a working knowledge of metal machining enough to engineer and manufacture your own weaponry
Knowledge, friend, that is TRUE freedom.
>>71604967
That's exactly what I am saying.
One of my Polymer lowers.
>>71605062
I'm agreeing with you, just came to funpost. :V
>>71604924
Especially old ones. I've got 2 in my collection from probably the early 60's or late 50's that don't have serial numbers on them. Hell, the one my dad left to me was his dad's and he ordered it from Sears and Roebuck - delivered straight to his door. And their only value is sentimental. I could put both of them up and be lucky to get $150 for the pair.
>>71594145
Alright, I don't disagree with untraceable guns but what do you actually need one for?
I can't come up with a reason off the top of my head
>>71605372
BILL OF RIGHTS. NOT BILL OF NEEDS.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>71605372
To piss off the government
Better question, why does the government need to know if you have a gun?
>>71605372
To have a secret stash that can be used against federal agents if there's ever a civil war.
Also
>need
>>71605499
>>71605503
I wasn't arguing against it.
And the government doesn't.
>>71605565
Right.
I guess I should've asked the question in a different manner without >need
>>71605372
For when the government turns on its people.
Example: Nazi germany against jews
I don't get this whole "untraceable gun" meme and wish it would die.
Unless you live in a state with a firearm registry and I think there's maybe one or two plus a few municipalities your gun isn't registered.
The best that could happen is that if they find the gun at the crime scene and run the serial numbers they could get to the last dealer it touched. Dealers only have to keep their records for say...5 years or so, I don't remember exactly how long, as the ATF changes all the rules all the time. After that, they're destroyed. Unless the dealer remembers the purchaser it's pretty much a lost cause at that point for the police because they would still need to get a judge to give them a warrant to go through those records and HOPE they find what they're looking for.
If you buy a gun in a private sale, there's no record of this.
The untraceable gun meme is nothing more than the culmination of a brilliant marketing scheme and the subsequent overreaction by anti-gunners.
Before 80% lowers became a thing, it was pretty much a non-issue.
>>71601176
It aint called the Bill of Needs you krokodile swilling statist subhuman cocksucker
>>71601917
LCR is a 5 shooter in .38 nigger.
>>71596023
And I'm FREE to choose that result. God, freedom sure is nice.
>>71601176
Why should someone else be able to trace my private property?
>>71605775
shill meme
>>71605775
Everything having to do with the 2nd amendment and gun owners is an over reaction. Nobody's going to use their guns to fight a tyrannical Obama administration.
Still, who the fuck cares. Freedom nigger Freedom.
>>71605801
This. Get rekt.
>>71594145
Unless you're building the lower receiver yourself from a straight piece of metal I'm fairly positive any purchase will still leave a paper trail of some sort. It's fairly obvious what someone buying 80% lower receivers is up to (either selling them or making weapons) tbqh.
>>71606168
80% receivers don't require any special paperwork. Buy it in cash in a different town. Boom
>>71605996
Please make no mistakes on the intent of my comment. I have no problem with the 80% lowers. My buddy and I both assembled our 80% lower in his garage a few years ago but it wasn't so we could march on Lexington or Concord or so we could stick it to the man. We went with the 80% uppers because it was a more cost effective route to owning an AR.
>>71606168
You should not try and contribute if you are completely ignorant about things.
>>71606219
I think you are lying, the words you used in your post do not make sense in the context you are using them.
You could 3d print Polymer lower receivers 5 years ago. Sure, they only last 500-600 rounds, but they cost like $5 to make.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAW72Y_XPF4
You can also print entire guns in whatever metal you choose, though the printers that work with metals are expensive as fuck at the moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ZYKMBDm4M
>>71596672
Yah that will stop them.
>>71607017
What a piece of junk. Bikies in Australia make these.
>>71606538
Think what you want, brohammed. You're wrong, and that's fine, but you're missing my point.
To all these people asking why someone would need an unnumbered gun, I ask why you need numbers on your guns.
It is and always has been legal to make yourself a gun, and the gun doesn't need a serial number either. The only guns that legally require serializing during production are those produced with the intent to transfer ownership. The manufacturer of said firearms needs to have an FFL for that.
>>71606216
Fairly confident that it still requires some fairly specialized equipment to manufacture the 80% lower receiver, leaving a relatively low number of possible sellers. It's also pretty unlikely you can still walk in and buy one without providing any ID unless you already know them, especially in the age of an ongoing War on Terror.
>>71606461
Surely it'll be easy to refute what I've said, or you can at least be more specific about why I'm wrong, then? Pic related.
(Also, huge fan of Cody Wilson in Texas and his 3d receiver lower receiver maker. It's too bad their buyer list could be subpoenaed at any time if it turns out a terrorist or something bought one, and that FedEx refuses to ship them.)
>>71594145
Where's the forward assist guide?
>>71605775
Nigger, every state in the union has a gun registry and it's called an FFL bound book. The ATF can inspect it whenever they want on a moment's notice and it is a record of the serial of all guns the FFL has transferred.
The point of an 80% is that it's a legal, new firearm that's not recorded in any bound books or state registries.
>>71607580
Officer: Where is your Springfield XDS with this serial number that you bought on this time at this place?
Anon: Sold it to a guy like...oh jeez oh man...like 5 or 6 years ago, officer.
>>71607288
They're not considered firearms by the government, so therefor don't fall under the regulations.
You're just buying a chuck of metal as far as they're concerned
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/atf-answers-questions-on-80-receiver-blanks/
>>71607423
It's an 80% receiver, it's not machined to 100% yet.
kek
https://ghostgunner.net/
>>71607288
>hurr durr refute what I said
Go buy an 80% lower with cash while wearing a hoodie.
There, no paper trail, your point is refuted. You are retarded.
>>71604877
I've always wanted to make one of these but commiefornias fun laws are a shit
Would anybody like for me to post instructions on how to build an untraceable AR15?
The people who sell them to you are usually ATF agents current or former. It's legal right now, and they just string-ray your cellphone, scan your license, essentially painting a huge kick me sign on your back. Next scripted "event" in your berg, and you end up being ventilated with fmjs by some swarthy Asiatic programmed by Anime.
>>71609577
>the people who sell 80% lowers are ATF
That's the stupidest shit I've read in this thread.
>>71608967
Yeah I'm to scared to blow my fucking hands off to make one
>>71605775
I used to work at a maw and paw gun shop, they held on to their 4473s all the way back into the early 60s. They didn't want to destroy them because of the ATF always changing their rules and shit, and they didn't want to give want to give them to the ATF to destroy either..
Basically they don't trust the ATF
>>71608977
Nice try ATF
>>71601621
Actually those scratches change over time the more you shoot or hell even vigously clean with a brass bore brush.
>>71601687
He didn't because it's impossible to turn a DA/SA revolver full auto. Jesus fucking Christ just use your head a little bit.
>>71610145
How to build an AR-15 at home.
I will teach you gentlemen how to manufacture and assemble an untraceable AR-15 in your very home.
The following is a list of links of things to buy to compete the project.
>80 Percent Lower Jig template
http://80percentarms.com/products/80-ar-15-easy-jig
>Jig drilling tools
http://80percentarms.com/collections/lower-jigs/products/easy-jig-tool-kit
>80% competed AR receiver(this is the part that would be considered a firearm when 100% completed)
http://80percentarms.com/products/80-lower-receiver-type-iii-hard-anodized-billet-ar-15
>Drill to make the holes into the receiver
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0011XSEW6/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1454298892&sr=8-5Ï€=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=drill+dewalt&dpPl=1&dpID=41Qg0pUZJfL&ref=plSrch
>Router to mill the inside of the receiver
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0048EFUV8/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?qid=1454298990&sr=8-4Ï€=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=router+tool&dpPl=1&dpID=41MSATBmFfL&ref=plSrch
>If you don't already own a Vise, buy one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000VJLY00/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1454299063&sr=8-5Ï€=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Vise&dpPl=1&dpID=41aMl8WqkQL&ref=plSrch
Also buy some WD40 to cool down the drill bits.
Once you have all your pieces together you're ready to begin. This video will help you with clear detail how to manufacture your 100% completed AR-15 lower receiver.
https://youtu.be/SiHdV5slQps
>>71610468
>Lower parts kit with buttstock assembly
http://palmettostatearmory.com/catalog/product/view/id/2343/
>upper receiver with bcg and charging handle
http://palmettostatearmory.com/ptac-16-m4-1-7-upper-with-bolt-carrier-group-and-charging-handle.html
>rear sight
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001BR4VQ0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1454299567&sr=8-1Ï€=SX200_QL40&keywords=Rear+sight&dpPl=1&dpID=41lYBNzWhiL&ref=plSrch
With these pieces, you are now ready to assemble your AR-15.
The following video will guide you through the process.
https://youtu.be/YIpFmi8kiks
Congratulations, you now have a completed untraceable AR-15 and the knowledge to build as many as you'd like. THIS IS 100% LEGAL
SAVE THIS BEFORE THEY DELETE IT
>>71607288
The tools are not rare or specialized you fucking mouth breather I've seen people do it with a drill. Please stop talking about ahit that you do not have the slightest clue about.
>>71607423
That's part of the upper. 4/20's over, time to sober up pal.
>>71594145
>Is this the epitome of FREEDOM?
No, because with the 80% lower, you are still beholden to corporations who produce the object first, and are beholden to STANAG, a NATO protocol for standardization of ammunition.
If, for whatever reason, the chinese took over America, you would be ruined because you'd not have any more 80% lowers to mill out, and those that had already had a build party would run out of ammunition quickly since their AR takes .223/5.56 instead of whatever special snowflake caliber the chinks use.
The key to true freedom is general competence, which Americans don't have. Americans are stupid.
The only thing that has kept you safe this long is economic prowess combined with flanking by two oceans. If Washington or Taft or Obama were in charge of Germany or Israel, the country in question would fall in a week.
This is legal.
>>71595127
Not an 80% noguns faggot.
>>71610682
>he doesn't know how to reload ammunition
lel
>>71607119
That looks cool as shit. It looks like standard ERW steel tubing. What are they called? What ammo do they shoot? How are the magazines and barrels made?
>>71610844
I referring to the serialized lower he wants to deface.
Yes. I'm working out some classic freedom right now.
>>71610875
I don't fucking know. All I know is gun laws dont do shit because contrary to liberal opinions, criminals aren't always stupid.
Here's another one.
>>71611003
aYE lMAO BRO i SMOKE THE EXACT SAME CIGS YAY CANCER
>>71594145
No it's just a piece of metal. It hasn't been milled.
>>71594145
You can make your own guns as long as you don't sell them or give them away
>>71611029
B-but they are criminals because racsys want gibesdemdat!
>>71610875
Those were homemade by Australian biker gangs iirc, they look like mac10 clones to me. The bluing on the suppressors, if that's what they are, is gorgeous, that's some sweet craftsmanship. Probably 9x19, judging by what I can see of the muzzle.
>select all peanuts
>clearly soy nuts and almonds
Don't put google in charge of food for allergy people.
>>71610875
You want a suppressor?
I got you senpai!
http://www.americanweaponscomponents.com/product/breath-muzzle-brake-5-56/
Maglite sold separately
>>71610855
>he uses a caliber that isn't local, for an insurgency!
Do you think the only reason the taliban, ISIS, Al-quaeda, etc. use slavshit is because of some agreement that only the bad guys use ruskie gear?
in any case, not only is revolution a matter of economic violence, but your cheap 80% lowers won't help you with the physical violence side. They're no more "untraceable" than buying a pre-built AR, or buying bags of fertilizer off of Amazon, or any other trash you'd use your credit card for. And that you had to get a kit instead of assembling some Luty piece of trash means you're too inept to be useful to the revolution anyway.
inb4
>i-ill just raid the local army base
Good luck not getting shot, nerd
>>71611115
Who's gonna know?
>>71611029
But we banned guns. :^)
Seriously do people think that if we ban guns people won't figure out how to make them.
Fire arms are not that complex of a tool, hell even the ammo isn't hard to create.
>>71611073
Oh no cancer for me, i had a heart attack last year, 3 months after my 29th birth day, exactly. Coded in the ambulance and everything. I'm a dead man walking.
>>71611115
You can decide to sell them or give them away after you build them, you just have to build it with the intent to keep it for yourself. You can change your mind.
>>71611173
Wtf are you even blabbering about?
Like seriously what is your argument?
>>71611221
oh shit really? what gave you the heart attack?
>>71594417
Fuck yeah thats some cool freedom.
As long as I can defend myself and my family, I aint scared of people being armed
>>71611150
Actually no, I may or may not have done a surpressor before.
My interest was in the weapon itself. The craftsmanship is excellent, and if that is ERW tubing, the cost is minimal.
To hell with the 3d printed guns, if that weapon works, even in spray and pray mode, my hat is off to the 'biker scum' that designed and made it.
The gent should have gone to school.
>>71611624
IIRC they got a jeweler to do it.
>>71611281
>Like seriously what is your argument?
"americans are shit" is a good start
but also 80% lowers do not represent freedom because you still have to buy them from a source that likely does not have your interests in mind. This is one point.
My other point is that to buy an 80% lower reinforces a thought of independence from manufacturing that is fundamentally a delusion. Someone buying an 80% lower is likely not competent enough to be useful to any revolution requiring freedom from tracking (which is to say ALL REVOLUTIONARY FORCES), as most 80% lowers are bought online, by people with insufficient firearms and/or manufacturing knowledge to arm any kind of insurgent force (even if only themselves) without aid from a company selling said 80% lowers. Even those bought locally would be bought by people who can't assemble a firearm from stock pieces (pipes, standardized screws/nails/dowels/rods/, etc) and thus are not as useful as actual gunsmiths or craftsmen who can pick up gunsmiths easily.
>>71611281
>>71611698
If the aggressor towards you and your 80% bullshit is foreign, congratulations -- you probably have no place in the conflict anyway. The US military will take care of it, and if they don't, you probably do not have the supply chain necessary to keep yourself stocked up on the now-proprietary .223/5.56 NATO ammo to feed your AR. If you are some nerd with some weird 6.8 Grendel upper, congrats, you're a moron who can't import ammo anymore because the chinks have been blockading you for months if not years to be involved in a major war on US soil.
If the aggressor is congress and their federal goons, great job -- you will likely never see ammo shipments ever again past what your local Cabeleas has in stock, because the federal gubment can control that kind of large-scale trade. Even with a press and die set, you will be fighting the US government, with all their tanks and predators and the like, waiting on your child to reload bullets for you round by round when they can ship in massive quantities from Germany or wherever. Again, good luck attacking a base for materiel.
These combined come to say that you and your people collectively are a scrublord shithead who ain't shit.
>>71602079
walk in syrup??
>>71611624
Oh those guns worked, and they looked nice and had great craftsmanship (the guy who actually made them was a qualified Jeweler from Sydney, the bikie gang was laundering money through his store, cops found the guns when they busted him for it), but the gun itself isn't very good because the model it's based on is shit.
Pic related is what they usually make. It's entirely original. For practical purposes it's the same, except it's easier and faster to make, cheaper, smaller, lighter and funnily enough, more accurate (though that's not saying much considering there's no such thing as accuracy when it comes to 900RPM machine pistols).
The simple fact is even smaller to medium sized criminal enterprises are more than capable of manufacturing fully automatic weapons.
>>71611832
>though that's not saying much considering there's no such thing as accuracy when it comes to 900RPM machine pistols
Actually, fire rate only determines user error. It's all about optimal barrel lengths, machine tolerances, and ammo consistency.
But yes, automatic weapons aren't hard to produce, given the right tools. Americans seem to have forgotten this fact. No surprise, really, since only like 3 of them per year graduate high school.
>>71610844
He wants to buy a complete lower you fucking nigger—not an 80%.
>>71611832
>bikie gang
Thanks for making something cool sound gay as fuck, Ausfalia.
>>71612135
Bikies are mostly lebanese muslims here.
>>71611745
And what about when the generals look at the politicians telling them to kill their own people and they say no.
>>71611979
Fully autoweapon guns are magic, no mortal man can stop them dont lie
>>71609776
Why? I mean they're just hands.
>>71612266
>And what about when the generals look at the politicians telling them to kill their own people and they say no.
It won't happen because most military members are from the lower classes, will likely have a resentment towards the middle and upper classes, and even if not, will not have a good life to go to if they abandon the military.
That typical american "what if the gubment goes awry!" planning comes down to "well we hope everyone in the army defects" is fucking pathetic. You have literally no plan for if shit gets violent.
Even when you bomb the world trade center, you can't do it right. It takes a gaggle of saudis to finish the job you fucked up, every time. Even in the cold war, you couldn't do shit without Mossad mission dossiers and Saudi intel.
>>71611485
Shit my dog tried to eat my neighbors dog. He was a beast too, had to shoot the poor dumb bastard. Clean right in the back of the head mid heart attack on a moving target 10-15 feet away out a snubby. I was impressed with myself, honestly.
>>71612458
You are so mad
Stay jealous fucking leaf
What is the benift?
It just seems like meme shit
>huurr fuck you gubbermint! You don't know I have one particular rifle! Fuck you!
Pretty sure they don't care at this stage
People in the military will kill you and everyone you've ever loved. Not because they've been ordered to. But because they've been drawn from the pool of people who would have ended up doing it anyway.
I'm canadian, and wouldn't mind at all killing random fudd whites -- imagine some chicago nigger whose only options were a failing rap career or becoming a Warrant in the army!
>>71612841
They don't only have tanks and predators, but the IRS and Goldman Sachs. An 80% lower will probably not stop them, nor will it stop Tyrone. Since Tyrone is a US Army E5 who does not even need to see you to know where your house is, that it's his target, and that he can call battleship fire support on you from some canal lock in Vermont.
>>71612855
You don't know the mix of modern generals we have
They are like SJW in terms of willingness to kill their own country. Thats why they are all pissed at Obamas speeches, they disapprove of what he has done to America as Commander in Chief
>>71612935
Because the US military has such a stellar record at fighting against badly armed rebel hiding in hills, right?
>>71613055
The ATF, CIA and FBI have a stellar track record at murdering american civilians. I'm sure the Army and Air Force can learn a thing or two from them.
>>71612841
Well, look at it this way.
The government suddenly decide to take all registered guns because of some "school shooting" or similar. A couple of weeks later, they decide to take away the precious freedums and usher in a dark age of anti-freedom.
Who can stand against the evil tyranny, other than the ones proudly wielding their unregistered AR-15s?
But seriously though, this may happen. People should have the right to protect themselves, even from the government.
>>71609577
>t. atf trying to sow fear
>>71613209
>The government suddenly decide to take all registered guns because of some "school shooting" or similar. A couple of weeks later, they decide to take away the precious freedums and usher in a dark age of anti-freedom.
This would literally never happen. There is no reason to do this. It is tactically and strategically unsound, both in warfare and political terms.
Not to mention that "age of anti-freedom" makes no sense, and that you're already denies a lot of basic NATO/UN freedoms anyway. How's that right to fair trial treating you? Oh wait, Patriot Act. Well, cops are at least there to defend you from criminals, right? Oh fuck, supreme court already said that police have no obligation to protect civilians. Uhh, well, hmm.... You at least have grade A meat, right? [spoiler]"Grade A" is a myth. Meat being deemed safe to eat by the USDA is a simple pass/fail.[/spoiler]
>>71613209
Yeah but a couple of fags with shitty a shitty ar isn't going to do shit
I love guns, I am going to buy more guns
But this bullshit fight the government is disgustingly pants on head retarded
>>71613203
Lol the USAF will never lay a hand upon US civilians inside the united states. They are the biggest and probably most capable force to prevent a rebellion and talk sense into the civilian leadership.
>>71613394
no it's not bro, it's happened plenty of times in history. yeah the US would be a touch one to fight, but crazier shit has happened
>>71613427
>US civilians inside the united states.
And the FBI will never kill people because "lol 9mm" or some other /k/ meme. How naive are you? People will kill whoever they're ordered to, as long as it's not someone they like. And I guarantee that no one thinks you're too pretty to kill from 30,000 feet.
This Canadian sure is assmad that his government won't allow him to own an AR15
>>71594145
>Be America
>Develop lethal drones
>Develop self-guided munitions
>miniaturize
>Combine with omnipresent surveillance through fun gadgets the subjects can't/won't want to live without
In 20 years, the justification of private firearm ownership as a political firewall against tyranny will be obsolete. There will be no human law enforcement carrying out lethal force operations directly. The drones will be far less vulnerable, and eventually, to small to hit.
But gunfags will still have the NRA trade association lobbyists protecting their rights with bags of cash to congresswhores, so there won't be any infringement of the now obsolete 2A.
>>71613677
You really are a fucking leaf, holy shit.
Few US servicemen would actually agree to shoot their own people.
>>71613803
>muh drones meme
Much like an airplane, a drone is useless at fighting within the borders of your own country.
>>71613912
>Few US servicemen
The vast majority of them are black.
Do you think they'd hesitate to shoot someone who's been sitting on 4chan or arfcom calling them a nigger for ten years?
Kill all whites.
>>71613912
They'll find the ones who do and give them the controls to millions of killbots.
>>71595769
Not if you build an immunity with smaller bullets first.
>>71613975
Really? Bezos can hit your doorstep with a box of discretely packaged dildos. A shotgun wouldn't work?
>>71614022
Not only are you a leaf, you're a snownigger. Fucking hilarious.
>>71614026
>millions of killbots
My god damn sides.
>>71614069
Pretty sure a shotgun would work at blowing any flimsy delivery drone out of the sky.
>>71596023
Not if those potential victims are free to shoot back. The situation you're describing sounds more like a police state to me familam, which is the opposite of freedom
>>71596556
Have one in .357, nice gun
Never heard of this 80% rule (being a leaf and all). How exactly do they determine if a gun is legally considered to be only 80% finished, as opposed to 85% or whatnot?
