Is hearing loss going to be the next big civilisational diseases?
If you look at the facts, and notice how people live now, I truly believe this is going to be an enormous topic that seemingly comes out of nowhere.
It's not the hearing loss that's the problem, it's the tinnitus. You can adjust to having bad hearing, but self-caused tinnitus routinely makes people suicidal until they habituate (which can take years).
Audiologists are the Cassandras of the modern world. You ever talk to an audiologist? They're usually redpilled as fuck, and they cannot believe the misplaced emphasis people have on their lifestyle.
>>71587119
It will be ocular degeneration.
It's already happening.
motherfucking tinnitus man
>>71587119
I'm already deaf in one ear.
>>71587119
I've been DJing for almost 15 years. I listen to extremely loud music through headphones every single day. Aside from relatively mild tinnitus (I can sleep easily in a silent room), I haven't noticed any loss in hearing.
>>71587119
>You ever talk to an audiologist? They're usually redpilled as fuck
>>71587119
I feel like this is a CIA post.
I'm an audiophile and sommelier. I take my senses so seriously. I had a sinus infection once and lost my sense of smell and taste for a week. I was nearly suicidal.
>>71587225
what's wrong with that guy?
>>71587380
pic related - probably my 10th pair of these headphones
>>71587119
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>71587257
This, fuck tinnitus. I'm a very light sleeper and I've had tinnitus for as long as I remember even though my hearing is actually very good. I've spent so many nights lying awake because of the goddamn incessant high-pitched noise I can hear in my head.
>>71587537
excellent taste friend
>>71587524
He's British.
>>71587119
Naval engineer here and I know a small number of guys in the field that have lost their jobs due to bad hearing.
It happens to those idiots who think they can walk through an engine room for several minutes without hearing protection. They think no damage is being done because it's not immediate but those inaudible frequencies get you in the end. they eventually fail their biannual medical exam which is a legal requirement for sea-based work.
>be me
>significant hearing loss due to an RPG slamming into a wall about 7 feet from me.
>literally clear liquid drained from my right ear, ability to stand was fucked, threw up like crazy
>gettin that sweet VA disability
>sleep like a baby
>>71587650
>I've had tinnitus for as long as I remember even though my hearing is actually very good.
There's no contradiction there, those often go together. One of the markers of hyperacusis is when you do better than average on a hearing test, but worse than average in a real-life crowded room.
The government used to fund educational commercials about it.
Now they fund educational commercials about how to have sex with Muslims, and how to buy more drugs for your heart attack, and more medical screenings for your vagina cancer or your boob cancer, or why you need drugs to get off your drugs.
>>71587119
I have an auditory processing disorder and shit sucks.
Even gental background noise and I'm reduce to retard like levels of understanding. Car rides are the worst because the radio makes so that I can't understand anyone else in the car. It's all just a blurb of noise.
>You ever talk to an audiologist? They're usually redpilled as fuck
Audiologist here. That statement is full of shit, at least in the US.
80% of us are runoff potential Speech Pathologists which means we were talentless Comm majors.
Guess what that percentage matches to in terms of gender presentation in the field?
This is the most bizarre post I've seen on /pol/, since nobody knows about this field.
![1460120155456[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fZXFWlg.jpg "1460120155456[1].jpg")
wtf
>>71587520
You sound like a huge faggot.
>>71588593
This is why it is clearly COINTELPRO or CIA shilled. I already mentioned that.
>>71588754
Eat a dick, you common pleb. Go drink a budlight or something.
>>71587746
And what are you, an abo?
>>71588750
Back in my day we didn't have computer porn, so we had to make up our own sex robots out of internal skeletal design and smooth, nice clothing so we could try to hide it where dad couldn't find it even though we already found his pornos and liquor.
>>71588593
Hey audiobro, why is it that my hearing is perfect, but I often have trouble understanding what people are actually saying? It's like everyone else understands what's being said with song lyrics and I can't, and I usually have to ask people to repeat things when everyone else appears to have heard it correctly.
>>71589099
Try a Speech Language Pathologist or something similar to identify whether or not you have a neurological issue.
Audiology is a different focus.
>>71589099
I have this issue.
I think it's related to hearing damage in certain speech frequencies. Though I'm not sure why.
>>71587119
>tfw constantly called a pussy faggot for using ear plugs while working with power tools or at work.
>Called a pussy faggot for asking people to lower the volume when in their car with them because it's painfully loud.
>Get bitched at by brother for asking him to turn down volume because I don't think it's normal that I can hear everything he's listening to clear across the house two floors down.
I can't wait for all these faggots who're blasting their music max volume into their headphones, max the volume in their car, max the volume on the TV or their PCs, never using hearing protection to be all deaf as fuck.
Fucking self destructive faggots hounding me for asking them not to destroy me while they destroy themselves.
>>71589099
Unlikely chance, but people ejaculate in my field over getting to diagnose people like you with Auditory Processing Disorder.
Because then we get to sell you things that have no real proof of benefit for a disorder that may or may not actually exist and may be more neurological in nature.
>>71589546
>called a pussy faggot for using ear plugs while working with power tools
Do it.
The worst part is when it gets so bad you just stop caring. And then the geriatric generation would rather die than deal with it, and you're not even there yet.
>>71587537
>fellow MDR V6 user
Nice
>>71589710
Oh I do. Fuck usually the sound is physically painful for me, I can't understand how these cunts are just acting like it's not even there.
My mom has had terrible hearing since forever, and losing mine has always scared me, so I go out of my way to protect it, but that's apparently looked down upon.
I'm in my 30s and I can still hear frequencies up to 16Khz, so I think I'm doing good protecting my hearing.
Had tinitus for years... adhd works in my favor though. Get distracted from distractions.
>next level shit.
>>71587380
Yeah, that's exactly how it works, dumbass.
Everything is fine until it's not.
You're doing so much worse damage with the headphones than if you just listened to loud music without them. Blasting the sound waves directly into your ear holes at point blank range is completely overwhelming to your cilia. You have no idea.
Take the headphones off, never use them.
And earbuds are even worse. The guy who invented them belongs in prison.
>>71589493
Important formants of speech for certain people can fall into a range where you have hearing loss/reduced sensitivity.
Between 3k-4kHz is important for understanding speech in background noise.
Around 6kHz is important for high-frequency consonants. Even if you only miss a little, your brain can ruin the code.
That's all you get without an appointment and some $8000 shitbag Boomer-ruining hearing aids, though.
>>71588962
Russian living in Australia.
>>71588750
>the fucking ice cube tray
>>71589099
Hey canadabro I can relate to this, good to know I'm not alone
>>71589493
I have the same issue
My hearing graph looks something like this, maybe yours does too?
>>71590188
Is it okay using headphones/ear buds if the volume is turned way the fuck down?
>>71587520
A post by CIA that's spying on me because my tinnitus has been acting up all this evening and this coincidence is way to fucking coincidental.
>>71589099
Sounds neurological, not physical.
I would recommend you try listening to tons and tons of podcasts with different people, different voices, accents, different pitch, tone, speaking style, pacing, syntax, lilt, etc.
Maybe if you expose yourself to as many different kinds of intelligible speech it'll be like weightlifting for your auditory processing? This is pure speculation on my part. Give it a whirl, though. Couldn't hurt, surely.
>>71589958
I probably can't hear up to 16kHz anymore. It's fucking dogged me down to where I don't even want to know how bad it is.
I went to an audiologist once, and I was like, "It's right at 11.5kHz and I can't take it anymore" and he was like, "step into my silent booth" where I had to stop myself from telling him all the ways his shit was all shit, front to back shit, he didn't care about shit, poop in loop shit, right down to, I mean, how are you going to produce any kind of reasonable audio through a fucking industry program that craps out sound through the back of the latest Dell computer's motherboard sound card. No wonder I can't understand it. And here you're putting exclusive expensive bone vibration things on my head and putting me in a sound booth that sounds like a fucking freight train and you try to play it off after why I'm telling you this?
Fuck you, asshole. I used to be able to hear the shape of the room upon entry. Even Sony did studies indicating that 30kHz-100kHz are important to the human ear. Sell your ear-blaster faggot machines to somebody else, you hack.
>>71590496
Wondering this too. When I use earbuds, for 45 minutes once a week, I keep the volume around 1/3rd of max.
>>71590546
Sometimes the red pill is right in front of you to grasp and you do nothing.
tinnitus is also caused by varying atmospheric pressure manipulated by HAARP and chemtrails.
>>71590496
It's better than listening to them loud, but still does tremendous damage not due to the volume but due to the proximity of the speaker to your tympanic membrane and the fact that the sound waves are forced to reverberate endlessly inside of your ear canal because your earhole is plugged up by the ear bud.
It's the difference between lighting a firecracker in your open hand, which only stings a little, and lighting a firecracker inside your fist, which could blow your fingers off. Understand? When there's no place for excess energy to escape to, that energy doesn't dissipate, it explodes.
>>71591766
Excellent example.
And that's why speakers at the other end of the room sounds so good. You can hear the room, but also the transients get modified by the room before they reach your fragile ears.
>>71591766
How loud is loud music?
>>71591531
The lizard people's mating calls don't help either.
>>71591994
When it sounds like the instruments are right there, but not overbearing. In other words, live music.
One of the guys who ran sound for the Greatful Dead turned out to be a pioneer of live sound. Another good one is to listen to a Trump Rally these days, as long as the microphone isn't shit. Fuck the cameras.
>>71591531
>tinnitus is also caused by varying atmospheric pressure manipulated by HAARP and chemtrails.
Yes, it could be, but people have no control over that. They CAN control their headphone usage.
>>71587119
I've had tinnitus since I was 4, not that bad.
>>71592229
Well, in terms of decibels?
Man, I've been listening to music on headphones for like 10 odd years now, no issues here
other than the congenital hearing loss that is
>>71592336
This. it might be becasue I've always had the ringing but I've grown accustomed to it and I learned to be alert to sounds I can hear and look closer at things.
>>71592029
Lizard people have nothing to do with it. Keep your attention on barometric pressure in the last of the month - this will coincide with HAARP and the frequency of earthquakes in isolated areas. The big one is upon us. Keep your eye in the sky. Those aren't "angels" or "spirits" you have ringing in your head.
Hey guys /x/ is that way
>>71587861
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacusis
I am so glad this disappeared near 12, hearing metal scrape together use to be the bane of my existence.
>>71587380
You are going to go deaf very soon.
Once you burn those little hairs away in your ears they are gone forever.
>>71592488
Decibels are the wrong way to look at it in my opinion.
Keep it so that you can hear everything else going on around you more clearly and you'll be ahead of the game.
>>71587119
my cellphone tells me when the voulume is too loud. Can i trust it?
>>71593019
It most likey is telling you too late adjust it to >>71592925 and you'll be closer to healthy levels.
ITS ALL ABOUT DAT BASS
I can't wait to laugh at all the deaf niggers when I'm old.
>>71591994
Try listening to music that is so quiet you can't quite hear every note, but you can still make out the melody.
Many people seem to want to blast the music as loud as they can so they can hear every last reverberation of every note.
Try working your way up from the opposite end of the spectrum. Start very quiet and then gradually, gradually turn it up until you can hear it just a little bit better.
If you do this, you'll reach a point in volume where you can hear everything fine even though it's not as loud as you're used to. There is a point of diminishing returns with volume.
I still like to listen to loud music from time to time, I have to blast Metallica in my car VERY loud in order to navigate Denver traffic. But I give my ears lots and lots of time to rest in between.
Somebody said they use headphones 45 minutes a week, that's smart to give your ears that time to rest and recover. Your ears are miraculous, they DO heal, they DO repair damage. But it takes time, days of rest in between periods of exertion.
If you go too long without giving your ears rest, then they get damaged so bad that they can't heal.
>>71587119
This was one of those big fear mongering scares when I was growing up. I ignored the warnings and listened to so much loud music, ears ringing for hours, etc. I'm over 40 now and my hearing is as good as ever.
Mild tinnitus here. Two of my coworkers aged 40+ have it too.
Was scary at first, but now I don't pay too much attention to it. I do watch out if ever I'm listening to loud stuff for a long time, i.e. headphones, clubs, bars, etc.
>>71592925
>>71590188
Please stop spouting bullshit. Post a citation or fuck off with your musings.
>>71592710
And Reddit is back the way you came from, yes?
>>71593019
The Bell Labs telephone asks only 300Hz to 3kHz. If you can do that right, then you can hear what the other guy is saying.
It blows my mind that all these stupid nobody mics and nobody ear whatevers can't get it right. There's a reason why we broke up Ma Bell, but why didn't we promulgate the known research in the process?
>>71592229
I've been to one live rock concert. I literally couldn't hear the music unless I was covering my ears, it was just noise otherwise.
>>71593380
I know. It's the worst.
>>71593356
There's already plenty of papers and information out now but audiophiles are like a hellish mix of gun and wine snobs in that they would literately ignore it to adjust to what they think 'sounds right'.
Other than that there are people that just weant to hear music for cheap hence why Chinese manufactures pump out headphones and buds with garbage sound quality but most people are just looking for good enough and comfortable in regards to that.
>>71587119
Dude explain. How do you self cause tinnitus and it can't be from headphones only.
WiFi causes tinnitus. As does cell phone radiation.
>>71591766
So how does one listen to music on the go then?
I mean I could go without, I only ever listen to it when I'm walking to the pool in winter, but is there an alternative?
>>71593815
why would WIFI cause tinnitus. That makes no sense
>>71593697
>it can't be from headphones only.
Yes it can. Do some research if you want, but that's how I got my tinnitus. Headphones only.
>>71589099
It's because people are illiterate niggers and the """"artists"""" are speaking their lingo. Song lyrics are so lazy and forced... it's very sad.
I listen primarily to tracks with no lyrics or minimal lyrics.
Electronic + Classical is patrician tier.
>>71593889
They do sell headphones that transmit the sound directly through the bone in your skull which would presumably be better for your ears. They sound much better than crappy earbuds and you can still hear things around you which is nice when you're walking.
>>71593675
I say let's go back to huge box speakers and pump that shit. 18" woofers, bitch. 18" woofers in a line array. You'd better believe it.
Higher frequencies can get lost after my body is finished being drowned. Then we'll talk about other frequencies.
>>71593111
This
>not listening to drone doom
Who needs frequencies over 6Khz? Also,
>not stockpiling hi-res audio until bionic ears come out
>>71594284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K818hFYG9FM
what the fuck is this stupid shit?
>>71587650
Dude get a fan in your room, works like a charm for me.
I've had tinnitus ever since I got an ear infection as a kid. Shit sucks.
Always have that sound and only since become an adult have I really been able to cope with it. Tinnitus doesn't bother me anymore, but the hearing sensitivity does.
Dunno how people can stand loud music, it feels like someone is drilling into my brain, they they don't seem to feel anything. Plus nobody seems to give a single shit even though they I ask them to keep it down like an old man all the time.
People are loud as shit. Fucking hell.
Also tfw can't hear anything over 11KHz.
For people having trouble sleeping with Tinnitus, check out
https://www.amazon.ca/Marpac-Dohm-DS-Speed-Sound-Conditioner/dp/B000KUHFGM
A fan or even just having the window open can help, but this little fucker can be a dream come true.
Damage to hearing is an injury that has no pain associated with it. I can often hear people's cell phone conversations when nearby.
>>71594629
>ear infection as a kid. Shit sucks.
well
>go to the doctor
>puts a fucking light in your ear
>oh, well, you have some scarring
Yeah, you fucking bastard, you don't think I know what a fucking ring modulator is? You don't think it keeps me up at night when one of the muscles in my ear keeps twitching? Yeah, that's pretty good for my fucking eardrum.
Fucking hell indeed.
I've been conscious of this for a while. I run pretty much everything I do on my computer through a speaker now. I use head phones maybe 2-3 times a month and never for more than a few hours. It's actually kind of frightening to think we've got a whole generation that is going to suffer sever hearing loss and/or tinnitus before they turn 30. Luckily I'm still fairly young and, thank God I wasn't into loud music as a teenager, so I think I should be OK.
>>71587225
This. Studies are already coming out that excessive time indoors with material in close proximity to the eye causes permanent damage.
>>71594565
that sounds more like ambient/noise. also it's not low frequency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKz-M661AAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0TP5QLrnWE
Online hearing test here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxcbppCX6Rk
>>71595358
To be honest, I put all the drone shit on hold until I moved out of concrete and could construct a proper listening space. It's all stupid bullshit people playing nothing.
The real songs are played by people who never gave a shit.
>>71594883
>A fan or even just having the window open can help
True that. Plus the feeling of a fan blowing on me is soothing, too.
I've only vaguely heard of white noise makers for babies years ago and never thought about it.
You should already be investing in hearing aid company's, seriously. Also with the whole generation having hearing problems we are going to have a huge push in temporal scientific advancements I bet. until then I will keep destroying my ears, because at this point they are most likely gone anyway
>>71595591
w-what?
>>71595878
Are you asking about how to mic the drones or how to mic the other people?
>>71595358
>>71595591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_vKrBDS4EU
Try this out.
Its PERFECT. I have in on my sonos just about 24/7 in my house.
>>71596029
neither, i was just showing that guy what actual drone doom was. his video wasn't drone
>>71594104
Thanks for the suggestion, just ordered a pair of 40$ "aftershokz" or whatever. I never listen to music while biking because I need the awareness, if these work as advertised, I might be able to.
Pilot here
Aviation has best noise cancelling tech around
Threat of losing jobs is very very real from damage done 40 years ago.
Can't wait til all the club sluts are deaf as fucking post in their 40s.
If I didn't need to hear to fly I wouldn't even be mad being deaf.
Tinnitus on the other hand is fucking hell...
>>71596141
nice, i've been meaning to get into ambient
>>71595538
All the sounds above 16K sound like nothing. Like I can feel a vibration but I can't hear a sound. I know something is being played though.
>>71587119
Myopia is the next one. Everyone's gong to wear glasses because of computers and screens. Apparently cancer is also an illness caused by our civilization lifestyles.
>>71587225
This guy gets it
>>71596190
>neither, i was just showing that guy what actual drone doom was. his video wasn't drone
I took a few tries to link it, but it wasn't easy.
I suppose it just goes to show what a pile of shit they are. Sure glad I never accepted a job offer.
>>71596141
I don't know why you'd want to subject yourself to his willingly.
After spending months in work camps in the Canadian North, the constant drone of the power generators drove me crazy. I fucking hate repetitive background or ambient sounds.
>>71596360
>meaning to get into ambient
i think you just are. I don't see any entry "ambient style"
My intro video was easily the sound of jupiter. Shit scared me, but I was more intrigued by its dark mystery. Seeing that I am a full blown conspiracy theorist with some Intel contacts... its fun to read up on aliens while listening to this. Also, my roommate doesn't mind the constant drone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWs
I have deaf parents. They can do anything a regular person can do except speak fluently or hear. I'm not sure why people think being dead means you are mentally and physically retarded. It's not the 1000s.
>>71596735
speak fluently or hear.
No they don't.
>mfw there is still no actual cure/treatment for tinnitus
Fucking why
no , wifi damage is the main one
>>71596842
Need to spend research money of REAL problems!
Like climate change.
>>71596836
Yes, that is the point I am making. They can do everything except those.
>>71596251
No problem. The ones I got to play around with were actually the higher end version by that same brand and it's almost uncanny how little it effects your ability to hear what's going on around you.
>>71587257
>>71587380
>>71587650
>>71587861
>>71589992
I'm tired of trying to quote all of the people who've posted regarding tinnitus.
Try this treatment:
Place the palms of your hands over your ears with fingers resting gently on the back of your head. Your middle fingers should point toward one another just above the base of your skull. Place your index fingers on top of you middle fingers and snap them (the index fingers) onto the skull making a loud, drumming noise. Repeat 40-50 times. Some people experience immediate relief with this method. Repeat several times a day for as long as necessary to reduce tinnitus.
>>71596960
Help them anyway, and never stop anyway. Just think of it, what if there were a get-together where you could hear it. What a thing!
Can the people outside hear me? Let's put it to the test. We'll put out some things outside. People outside, can you hear me?
>>71597104
Do not try this is creates mustard gas
>>71597104
I'm not trying any treatment until you tell me how it works.
One man lifts up the hand of another.
>>71589546
Fight the good fight. Your hearing is important. Protecting yourself is the right way to do things.
Wear your earplugs and safely glasses.
>>71597254
This is some surreal shitpostijg
>>71596842
Because its fucking GOV'T GLOBALIST ENGINEERED. My goodness. Did you not learn about it in your high school biology class?
>>71596954
>climate change
I know you are joking, but why don't you do something about that heavy aluminum being released into our air. GEOENGINEERING is the ultimate soft-kill with symptoms you would not regularly affiliate it with. This is a systematic test system. Do you feel like you have things crawling under your skin sometimes without a rash? YOU HAVE MORGELLONS DISEASE. "They" are really accelerating this process.
>>71587257
>>71587650
>>71597104
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee eOOOOOOOOOOOOO WEEEEOOOOOWEEEEOOOOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>71596733
nice. i mean i've heard some ambient, but it's usually just odds and ends from bands that don't actually focus on that genre. mostly because i don't have speakers so i can't listen to it in the background
>>71596684
>he doesn't like drone
>>71589546
both of my uncles were carpenters / rock music concert fans and at age 50 they both have shitty hearing and have to almost kiss me to hear me
>>71597403
i lol'd pretty hard
>>71597590
NO MAKE IT STOP
MOMMY
>>71597104
wow bro that actually worked. thanks a million
>>71587119
Hearing seems to be an issue for many people I know, it seems prevalent in both young and old. I suspect it is in large part, especially to younger people due to the advent of cheap IPods etc., and that to block out other sounds people tend to exceed the halfway point on the volume bar. What do you guys think?
I'm also particularly interested in smell. I and one mate of mine have damaged noses and can't smell certain things anymore (blunt trauma in Rugby). I sometimes experience a sickly sweet phantom smell too, and my nose randomly bleeds (I think I have pinned what I used to think as 'random' to high stress). On that note though, I know a few people with a lack of smell as well. Seems to be a lot of failing senses, not only the ear.
>>71587225
high whate grade ur in
>>71597963
Who is this Jizz Whiz?
>>71598110
teddi barrett
>>71597963
I got made fun of for using ear protection back when I was a little kid.
They all laughed at me. But then they tried to copy and eventually it was too late.
>>71598179
try again
>>71598244
Lea ann Crowe
>>71587119
i always have noice sounds one time my power went down and i could actualy hear how worse it had become beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
>>71598043
TEST UP!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUxQ3O7h69M
Esp for the cheap speaker / headphone department.
>>71598082
interested in smell. I and one mate of mine have damaged noses and can't smell certain things anymore (blunt trauma in Rugby).
You're pretty much talking about the first in brain damage. But, you know, get out of that. You'll do it better.
>>71587119
Oh shit I've had this for years, never thought anything of it since my hearing only missed one sound during a test. One day in class I couldn't hear what professor was saying and had her repeat it like six times after I kept raising my voice like an autistic
I masturbate to an hour of hard core anal exstacy for 30 minutes to an hour every day so idk if that hurts my ears, I have good monoprice sound canceling headphones
>>71587119
Some dumbfuck at my job blew a compressed air gun into my ear and now I have tinnitus and nerve damage in my ear. It's not even that bad, most of the time you don't even think about it. After a few weeks you forget it's there.
>>71587119
I always wondered about Twitch streamers and people like that, making a living sitting in front of a computer with fancy headphones on, listening to video game soundtracks and trashy music 8 hours a day, performing the same actions over and over again, only speaking via in-jokes and memes.
They're like canaries in the coal mine. I wonder what happens to them. Are they gonna get dementia at 40?
