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Upper body strength isn't really used in combat anymore, anyway.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/04/18/marines-new-fitness-plan-pullups-women-wont-mandatory/82793128/
I don't see how this is progress. Why can't women be women? What's next? Child soldiers?
>>71574052
>mandatory
>man datory
Good. Rape culture is reinforced by words like "mandatory", you shitlord.
>>71574052
>"Muh equality"
Fuck this gay earth.
why would anyone want women in combat roles? that's like implanting men wombs to give birth.
>>71574394
>why would anyone want women in combat roles?
So we can draft them. Duh.
>>71574394
So they can die for Israel. The more blood sacrifice the better.
>>71574517
to what end? when you have to draft women you have already lost
How in the fucking sweet name of Jesus do women always get the bar lowered in the name of 'equality'
If you can't do the pull ups, you shouldn't get to be a marine.
Fuck this gay earth I hope North Korea launches a nuke so we can glass this whole planet.
>>71575053
Admit it. Pullups were just a tool of the patriarchy.
>>71574052
Don't worry. All this shit is gonna evaporate as soon as a real war starts.
Not even women want women as soldiers.
>>71574052
I dont understand, dont they have to 10 pullups instead of 3 with this new program? Is that a bad thing?
>>71574052
That's not even a pullup.
>>71574052
Are the pull ups still mandatory for men, though?
>>71574615
>implying us modern men are gonna let ourselves get drafted to fight for women and a society that hates us
Nah m8, gonna stay at home wanking and playing the vidya while those women can go fight our wars.
Syrian refuge men have the right idea, leaving the women to fight.
ITS ALL GOING TO BE OVER SOON
IN THE END
IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER
>>71574052
political correctness is a Chinee communist plot to weaken America.
I wonder if women see how hilariously discriminatory that is.
They are being given lower standards for entry BECAUSE THEY'RE WOMEN.
American women are too fat to do just one
>>71574052
This is nothing new.
Women already do a 90 second "Flexed Arm Hang" for the USMC PFT instead
>>71576337
Women are proud of destroying things. That's they're nature. Haven't you figured that out yet?
Well i mean,here in Brazil it's mandatory for all men to join the armed forces at 18 but not women,and the training is tough as fuck
You guys are still better off than us
>>71576352
In all fairness, max points for the USMC PFT is 20 pull-ups
>>71574394
>that's like implanting men wombs to give birth.
They should make men receiving womb transplants part of a mandatory annual draft. It's time you felt our pain.
>>71576235
Russian actually. At least initially. You guys do it all by yourself these days.
>>71574394
>why would anyone want women in combat roles? that's like implanting men wombs to give birth.
That's not the plan
The intention is that all the dangerous & dirty military jobs are for men, all the comfortable backroom work is opened up for women
The fitness test stuff is a smokescreen, they just need to put women through any old nonsense before they sit at a desk and crap out a couple of babies
>>71574052
THis is fine, they just cant have a combat role
This is fucked. I don't care if women want to join the military but if they can't meet the demands then they can't do it. I don't see how this is going to help anyone except tumblr feminists.
>>71574052
Glad I left in 2012.
Either way, watching a flimsy armed female dead hang for 70 seconds and get the same points of a male Marine doing 20 pull ups was infuriating.
Female Marines belong in the Air Wing and Admin. Would be much better if they were separated like they are in boot camp.
>>71576674
That look on your face when you realize that WE WUZ WYMYNS N SHIET
NOTHING MATTERS ANYMORE
FUCK IT
WHEN WWIII HITS, LET'S JUST LET THE WOMEN FIGHT IT
CHANCES ARE, THEY WERE THE ONES WHO ASKED FOR IT ANYWAY
>>71574052
The potential change is in response to a fitness review ordered by Commandant Gen. Robert Neller. Marine leaders found that “some current [fitness] standards are either not relevant, not challenging or not attainable,” according to a briefing obtained by Marine Corps Times.
>not attainable
lol
> The 55-year-old colonel went from zero to 17 pullups in less than one year, and is still going strong.
>one year of intense marine training
>SEVENTEEN (17) pullups
>>71577256
Same excuse they pulled for the CFT. "Leaders" said the PFT wasn't a good measure of a Marines strength. Turns out Marines were getting higher scores in the CBT than the PFT.
A bunch of lions being led by tranny sheep.
The brass obongo has instilled needs to be removed.
>>71574052
Apparently chinups are pull-ups
>the marine corps in 2016
what the fuck happened? why did we let it happen?
>>71577826
All the warfighers and actual patriots left. Those that remained are too stupid to live without the military.
>>71574052
Isn't upper body strength still required though?
I know the British Army do loading phases as a test and a basic physical requirement, I think it goes up to 40kg/90lbs. Like loading weights on the back of Lorry's/Trucks, that are standard weights you ld routinely have to carry and load. I think it's still relevant to have upper body strength, that's just one reason.
There's a show on in the UK now called British Army Girls, it's propaganda because we might open our infantry to women later this year.
There's a clip they couldn't even hide, the women (not a single one) could stand up by themselves with a 40kg load on their back, one had to get help and then they had to help each other. Imagine rounds started coming in and you had to move fast.
Another part was where they couldn't even lift each other over a 8 foot wall.
A lot of the women got injured on the march with the 20kg (not full weight) marches. Dislocated ankles and hip pains, though the TV made them look brave.
>>71574052
I'm fucking ashamed of my beloved Corps! What a fucking waste.
>>71577911
Absolutely this. Peacetime Marine Corps was rearing it's ugly head around 2007. Right around the time garrison was coming to theater, promotions slowed, the number fat cutting started, and the sjw social experimenting was on the horizon.
Anyone who could hack it in real life got out and stayed out.
>>71574517
Vietnam would have gone a lot smoother with women among the ranks.
No pull-ups in Army
Women required to do more sit-ups than men
america needs a new big war to focus on
your military would drop this SJW pastime and start focussing on proper training again
>>71576101
Considering how many times men from both our countries have died in hundreds of thousands i'd say it's their turn to play bullet catcher. If womyn can't even be held to the same physical standards how the hell are they going to carry a kit that's roughly 80+ pounds and be expected to drag injured people out of harms way? They are just a liability for everyone around them.
We all know they won't be drafted anyway. They want the good stuff about "equality" and none of the bad.
>>71574394
>>71579074
>america needs a new big war to focus on
Civil war 2.0 would be helpful. Just carpet bomb this shithole.
>>71578014
We opened our's up to Woman beginning of this year.
We then preceded to make the test so horrifically hard that it breaks any weak cunts and those who're in the battalions for too long who have gone soft. Only way for woman to get in now is either to slip in sideways through a reserve program or officers, and both of those require the completion of the infantry course that is pretty brutal.
>>71574187
Truly Kony is a visionary.
>>71579074
There is a "big new war", people are just too dumb to see it and do anything to defend themselves.
>>71574052
I still remember libcucks branding anyone sane a paranoid sexist for predicting this inevitability.
I'm off to spam some comments.
This is such bullshit.
Female gymnasts do the equivalent of "pull-ups" a lot and it's not that difficult.
Especially considering a female usually doesn't weigh as much.
Marines are a joke. Army is becoming a joke. Air Force has been a joke.
Now the mighty Navy is being harassed by Russian birds.
We gotta make a stand somewhere...
>>71579402
Army has been a joke from longer than Jessica freaking Lynch dude.
>>71574052
JUST
>>71579402
>Female gymnasts do the equivalent of "pull-ups" a lot and it's not that difficult.
I've never seen a female Marine even come close to completing 20 pull ups the "correct" way. By correct way I mean they way they are counted in a PFT.
Any faggot can use momentum and whip their legs to do a pull up. But the actual strength required for that is nothing.
>>71574052
Imagine how powerful the military will become when Hillary becomes president!
>>71579497
Most of them, yes.
But they still had the Green Berets and such, which I think made them not a complete joke, overall.
>>71574052
Men are equal to women as long as we lower the standards to the level of women! :^)
>>71574052
>Pull-ups
>image shows chin-ups
So, which is it?
Yes, it matters
>>71574052
DESU, given average female upper body strength, the pull-up should not be part of the female physical fitness standards. However, they should also not be allowed in combat roles.
>>71579674
Just tell Vlad to glass us if that happens please.
>>71574052
Jesus christ, 'murica.
>The plan never made it off the ground, though. Data collected in 2013 found that 55 percent of female recruits couldn’t meet the minimum requirement. A study of 318 female Marines found that the women could complete 1.63 pullups on average. Roughly 20 percent of those Marines could only hit three pullups if they used their lower bodies in a "kipping" motion.
FUCKING CROSSFIT IN MY MILITARY REEE
I can't see how anyone can't belt out at least 10-20 pullups though guys
>>71579839
Isn't the military for people of above-average strength?
>>71579651
Have you seen a gymnast? They aren't always using momentum to do it.
They're graded on control and movement, and they will do a "correct" pull up, along with momentum driven ones, too.
I can imagine a pro gymnast doing 20, easily.
here's an idea
how about they make being in shape no longer mandatory while they're at it. fuck the body shaming military, women of all sizes should be able to join. Health at every size.
>obama will see to this before his reign is over
>>71574517
>Conscription
>2016
The good part is marines never let females be anything other than pogs.
Wait... they're letting them be infantry now?
AW FUCK
>>71579907
Lol no.
>>71579974
>America heralds a new age of modern warfare with human bullet sponges
>>71579909
Big surprise retard.
Female Marines aren't gymnasts.
>>71580011
dub dubs
Not, really.
most soldiers are pogs. Tons of marines have pog MOSs.
Navy is 90% pogs, chair force is 99% pogs.
That's only enlisted. 99% of officers overall never see combat
>>71579907
The military is for manlets, autists, and Cawadoody faggots.
>>71574517
>Trump starts a major war with russia
>drafts all the feminists and shitskins
>sends them into the Russian meatgrinder
>Russia drafts all their undesirables
>sends them into our meatgrinder
>we immediately call the war off once the culling has been completed
>>71576608
20 is a shit ton. Can you do chin ups or do they have to be pull ups?
>>71576674
All of this cultural marxism, and yet, there's still no way to un-kike your dick.
Fucking kikes man.
>>71580064
That was my point, retard.
That fucking super feminine, graceful and pretty gymnasts are more qualified to be marines than ACTUAL FUCKING MARINES.
>>71580230
You can do both, but unless you have biceps like Hercules most Marines do pull ups instead of chin ups.
>>71574052
Omg this chick's delish arms are my kink time to blow loads
>>71580207
I want to fight Pussy Riot, what do
>>71579831
yiissss
>>71580316
There is nothing feminine about female gymnasts.
They train before they are teenagers to be strong as shit. Do you ever see an Olympic female gymnast that is in their 20s?
Shit comparison, 20 pull ups is a lot even for a man. Saying its easy for women is full blown zika baby retarded.
>>71579988
>2016
>not using conscription
No wonder you north americans & western europeans are such emasculated cucks.
>>71580322
I find chin-ups to be way fucking easier than pull ups. I can probably do like 12 chin-ups and max 5 or 6 pull-ups.
>>71580513
20 pull ups is not a lot, especially because of how gymnasts train.
you have to realize the cucking of america is complete
you already knew that no single politician is not out to destroy the country
andin the back of ur mind u pondered maybe some time in the future, things would come down to a military coup to finally stop the people in charge from killing the country
nope
military leaders are now cuckolded too
>>71580629
Train doing pull ups, you'll increase your number from 6 to 18 in a couple of months.
>>71580230
20 pull ups seem like a shit load until you realise 99% of people don't pull up from a dead hang but from halfway. If you can do 10 dead hang pull ups you can do 20+ cheat pull ups
>>71579907
No. The majority of the military are services and logistics personnel. The infantry and other, more specialized, combat arms have stricter fitness and training requirements.
>>71579280
Never change Australia.
Wow - This is sad because I'm a girl who doesn't work out that much and I can do at least 3 pullups before struggling to get to 4. I am no athlete by any means but damn you have to be lazy or weak if you can't even do ONE.
>>71580513
Just stop m8.
The way they move and perform is feminine as fuck. They wear colorful skin tight outfits and move their body and jump and spin in a choreographed show.
Most of them end up having hot bodies and are qt. feminine imo
And yeah, it's difficult, but maybe we shouldn't have so many fucking women join the military if they aren't up to standards.
I KNOW it's a lot. I can only do like 12.
THE point being: if you're in a battle, and you're injured, and the only one who can save you by carrying or dragging is a female that can't do more than 1.6 pull-ups, you're FUCKED
>>71580635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qjleEHSo34
If you can do 20 pull ups the proper PFT way you are fucking strong as shit. Marines aren't gymnasts, stop fucking relating the two.
>>71580823
If you don't do dead hang, you don't get full range of motion. Lats are one of the biggest, strongest, most important muscles in the body. Anybody who doesn't know how to use them asking to be a weak cripple.
>>71576582
It's hell. They treat you like you're a worthless piece of garbage. I'm yet to see a woman serving the military.
>>71574052
everything is going to shit
I hear if your in the military and make a girl cry you have to take sensitivity training.
>>71574052
>In Marines' new fitness plan, pullups for women won't be mandatory
We will never lower our standards, they said.
It's not even a problem because when real war looms the female recruits will mysteriously all get pregnant or "raped" or "sexually harassed" and get PTSD before setting foot on a carrier, leaving them all at home with a nice payout for sitting out the war.
After which they will of course demand "veteran's comp", because "I was in the military during the war".
Don't kid yourselves.
>>71579894
Depends on how much you weigh and your build. I'm 200 pounds at 6'3" and can barely do 8 pullups, but if you ask me to squat double my bodyweight I'm good
>>71580967
Yeah I just said that.
American schooling showing up once again
>>71574052
They are trying to make military starship troopers in a nutshell
>>71581125
>bragging about squatting 2xbw
Does anyone in this thread actually lift?
>>71579185
Was about to post this
>>71580635
>400lb deadlifts are not a lot for the average guy, most top powerlifters do 800+
>>71574052
Lmao a friend in the marines texted me about this the other day. He had to attend a conference telling them about the whole
"More women" thing
I honestly don't see how this is smart. His platoon leader raged when he saw that half of his platoon was manlets(who would have to carry the big ass guys f hey get shot)
The army is 100% pussified. TRADOC is a liberal shit hole, and FORSCOM isn't any better, idgaf what anyone tells you.
Even down range where actual war can happen, girly bullshit has invaded. Nobody is safe.
Does anyone else really want to see a world war where feminists are sent to the trenches?
>>71574052
I do not understand why anyone would join the military unless they were going to try to be Spec ops or Special forces. I am joining the Navy in 3 months, but I have a SEAL challenge contract, if I did not have this I would not think of signing on. Only true warriors will even attempt Special OPs training.
Has anyone ever considered what would happen if they become hostage to the likes of Isis? Jesus Christ the brutality. I'm sorry to all feminists but all this is going to do is decrease the efficiency of our armed forces with natural instinct to protect woman soldiers. Reckless choices will be made to protect a woman's life to prevent beasts from capturing them causing more casualties than it normally would. High ranking woman from the army have already set this is ludicrous. Why can't anyone else see that.
>>71580936
>I KNOW it's a lot. I can only do like 12.
This isn't an accurate measurement, I'm 5'11'', weigh 130, and can do 20-23 without a sweat because I weigh so little. Nothing to do with body mass or upper body strength. My friends, who could easily bench twice my body weight, have trouble around 15 and 20 because they weigh so much more than I do. But I rather trust them to run 6+ miles on a cold start or carry someone their own bodyweight than me.
It's why the argument for female soldiers is bullshit. They're not in a fireteam with other soldiers of their bodyweight and size, they're mixed in with people way heavier than they are. Pull-ups used to be a measure of if you could cut it dead-lifting someone from the line of fire, but since it hurts people's feefees; they're getting rid of it.
If you even start to tell me that those 14 year old gymnasts can dead-lift a man, everyone will rightfully call you a retard. Those girls remain emaciated and thin at around 100 lbs for a reason.
>>71574052
I really want /fit/ to go...
>>71581534
Congrats man, hope you smash it.
I fucking hate female marines. Im a greenside corpsman and I was hanging out with a fellow shipmate in his barracks room the other day and I just about knocked a female corporal out the other day.
>were watching shows on netflix
>bitch comes to door saying she lost her phone charger and if she can use his
>he says sure, takes her phone and starts charging it
>shes awkwardly standing outside his room for like 10 minutes
>he goes to the door
>"hey your phone is at about 30 percent, you can come watch shows with us while you wait"
>she just looks at him hella weird
>"uhhh can I have my phone back?"
>"okay, sure"
>he brings her the phone
>"hey youre kind of a creep"
>she walks away
>my friend is just standing there like wtf
No marine or sailor wants sluts up here serving with us. They bring all their bullshit, pettiness, and tantrums with them to the military. I cant believe shed have that kind of attitude towards someone thats serving along side with her.
>>71581664
Marine Female NCOs think being a cunt is the right way to be a leader. Don't let your friend take it personally, she was probably meritoriously promoted.
>>71581664
Honestly, the military is the single best argument for destroying the idea of equality. Women are not equal to men, physically or mentally.
>>71581664
How long did you think our "brothers in arms" could last for? Fuck you doing thinking that kind of sexist shit and not having woman their to ruin it for you
>>71581664
> I cant believe shed have that kind of attitude towards someone thats serving along side with her.
She's indoctrinated. If you have been to a university in the last five years, you'll see that behavior all the time.
Young women are so bombarded with the concept that every man is out to rape them, and that every man who acts friendly is one step away from tearing her clothes off, that they act distant and cold with everyone who is not 'their gender'.
College Campuses have the same epidemic occurring. There was a 'rape scare' the other day because a male student was seen eating in a lounge that was decided (IE: Five girls came together to mark it this way) as a female-only space. Campus police were called, people were triggered. This is the modern woman.
>>71574052
>be cishet infantrypyrsyn
>get shot in the by a poc opposing combatant
>fellow wymyn infantrypyrsyn tries to help me
>can't lift me
>tells me to check my weight privilege
>leaves me to die
>forgive her because she is clearly acting in her own interest as a represented group
>I tip my helmet as a muslim walks over me
>>71576101
Women literally think war is all medals and prestige, AKA the things they didn't get for fucking Jamal while hubby was off fighting in Iraq. It will be fun to see them get slaughtered in war and realize there are worse things in the world than manspreading and gamergate.
>>71581576
>I'm 5'11'', weigh 130, and can do 20-23
Post video because that's bullshit. You're literally a skeleton.
>>71581836
I dont give a fuck, she has no authority over us regardless. Marine NCOs dont tell corpsman what to do unless theyre E7 or above.
Being a good NCO means calling your brothers "creepy" for helping you out?
>>71574052
Holy fucking shit that article is embarrassing.
The Marines now see at their place to encourage women to to meet the standards rather booting them out for being too incompetent to meet them in the first place. Sweet fucking Jesus.
>>71582035
They won't.
Remember that woman captured in Afghanistan about ten years ago that the entire media shit themselves over with "WE NEED TO INVADE KABUL, FULL-ON CARPET BOMB NAPALM STRIKE GET HER BACK ANY MEANS NECESSARY"
Then it turned out she was fine and nothing had been done?
This will become the norm during the next ground invasion.
>>71582132
>He thinks I'm a skeleton
I'm a runner. I count my calories. Most people about my age who do this have about the same profile.
Plus I don't skip arm day.
>>71582299
The sad fact is you're probably right.
>>71574052
Instead of saluting they should flash tits to the superior officer.
>>71577256
Then later in the article quote a woman describing how she worked her way up to 10 pull-ups in short order.
>>71582360
Are you a bot that skims through fitness forums? You make no sense you dumb fucking faggot.
>>71581664
>hey you're kind of a creep
i fucking HATE those sorts of women.
if you're going to start shit with someone, let alone a man, be a man and say it directly to their face.
>>71582555
>Being this man.
No, seriously, I don't get how you think 130-135 is 'literally a skeleton'. If you're a slim guy in the 5' range, you're about the same profile.
Not emaciated, either. Just stocky.
>>71582700
Wait, 'being this 'man''?
Okay, I'm tired, probably time to go to bed.
>>71574052
Pullups were never mandatory for women.
It was always the flexed arm hang.
>>71574052
Why the fuck do women want to join the army.. Why does anyone want to join the army? Especially now where the closest war is in some fucking sand desert killing goatfuckers which hide everywhere.
>>71577319
I can do 10 pullups and I'm not even fit.
If I had a year of training I'd want to be doing in the range of 40-50 pullups.
>>71581284
Don't drown, Narcissus.
>>71583205
I guess pullups are easier in Australia because your upsidedown.
>>71583349
Kek, actually made me chuckle. Nice bantz.
>>71574052
I knew that was going to happen. They did to my police program. All the girls have it on fucking easy mode. """"""""""""""""""""""EQUALITY""""""""""""""""""""""
>>71583181
women essentially just get free government money and don't have to do shit in the military. It's the perfect job for an absolutely useless parasite.
They don't even need to go to battle if they don't want, which is the entire point of the military.
Even an unnaturally tall and strong woman that could meet the male standards would be worth less than the average male soldier because she'd have to deal with menstruation and hormonal imbalance out in the field.
And yet they're lowering the standards females have to meet in order to be considered useful to the military?
People are going to die because they're going to have a twig of a female squadmate that can't carry them to safety.
>>71581664
Fellow 8404 here, all NCO wooks are like that. They're trained to be, don't let it get to you.
>>71574326
We need to make "womandatory" a thing.
>>71583577
they even treat their docs like that?
Eh, let the all-female marines invade Iran when the Israelis and Saudis pay President Killary to invade that country. Iran would win the war in roughly 16 hours and we could laugh like hell about it together as we signed a surrender/peace treaty.
When I was in they had to do strong arm hangs or whatever they're called. Since when did they do pull ups?
>>71582700
5'11" and 135 is literally spooky skellington tier, a hair's breadth from unhealthily underweight
>>71574394
ok but the isrealis do put women in combat? why? i agree with the report.
>>71574052
Oh goody. What else won't be mandatory come next year?
Climbing?
Jumping?
Running?
Dunno about you guys but I can't wait to put the defense of our nation in the hands of 300 pound paraplegic wheelchair warriors.
>>71577065
Same here. Fellow former devil dog here. When we got back from Afghanistan, we had a female in our unit as one of the new arrivals while we were deployed. She literally lasted maybe a week. I never saw her again after the new arrivals basically sucked us off for just getting home from a war zone.
Also, my wife just got done with basic in the army. They males and females are mixed in with each other.
>>71576674
>It's time you felt our pain
>men end up having more efficient/profitable family lives with their ass spawn
>REEEEEEE STOP FEELING OUR PAIN
>>71579847
holy shit, those fake eyebrows are so bad. it looks like she literally used a brown marker.
>>71581534
Best of luck but be prepared for the possible reality where you don't make it.
>>71574615
If women want to vote they should be eligible for the draft.
Also having lady soldiers didn't hurt the Soviets at the crunch.
>>71576235
Absolutely Subversive
>>71586813
POLL TAX SLAVE DRIVER
>>71574052
I can't wait for the evil white man to drop the SATs and GPA requirements of college for women, #fuckthepatriarchy
>>71581106
Ah, Lamb to the slaughter. Hated that story. Tried to get the reader to feel sorry for the wife who killed her husbanded
>>71577256
he sorta looks high-test and low-test at the same time
>>7158364
Don't give them any ideas...
>>71574187
>What's next? Child soldiers?
child soldiers are actually better than real soldiers, primarily because they have nothing/little to lose/live for and therefore will blindly obey orders and are inherently more brutal and vicious.
The main reason the left is so intent on making women into soldiers is to weaken our military. It's basically treason.
>>71587551
That's the basis of the modern educational system. Kindergarten was literally invented so as to make better soldiers.
>>71580563
america's military is basically mercenaries at this point. since we have no american indetity (das racsit), its inconceivable anyone would actually show up if drafted because they feel no obligation to defend their country. This was basically caused by the counter culture movement in the 1960s and all the liberal bullshit that followed.
>>71586813
Any kind of soldier won't hurt your chances when you're basically throwing bodies at the enemy.
>>71574052
>>71574052
The west is a fucking joke.
Holy shit.
A shame Russia is such a shithole country otherwise I would probably move there.
>>71574052
Fucking new corps.
Glad I got out in 2010.
http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/MCO%201700.28B.pdf
I MISS STARCHING MY UNIFORM!!!
Infantry are just used as targets to keep the enemies occupied while the planes, helicopters and drones pepper them these days.
In WWIII due to nuclear weapons wiping out electronics, if we don't have fully functional robots to take the field soldier will be forced to wade through miles of radioactive waste and a woman weakened even further by radiation is even more worthless than usual and the USA will lose.
>>71581284
2x bodyweight is pretty good for someone who has other hobbies besides lifting don't kid yourself
>>71574394
When women end up getting killed in combat at a higher percentage than men, will President Clinton decry the male privilege of upper body strength?
>>71586813
>>71574615
This. Make it so that women need to apply for selective services to vote. When they don't, take away their vote.
>>71589347
No, Hillary will just declare that it's equal.
>>71574052
Women will make better and more compassionate soldiers than men this is a step in the right direction for America.
>>71583912
Yep. If I had a dollar for every time an uppity wook tried to tell me how to do my job or flirt out an LLD chit, I could buy out my fucking contract.
>>71589662
Wait, are you suggesting that Hillary Clinton, Elena Kagan, and Susan Rice are not using compassion for their "Responsibility To Protect" meme?
>>71589662
>more rapable, crying soldiers
would be alright for my dick senpai if it wasnt my country
imagine the loot youd get off one stupid enemy bitch, not just her booty but her gun, gear (hopefully adjustable) and pretty face for the camera when you make a demoralizing video
>>71574052
wow it's like you want a weak military
>you do realize the whole world can see this right?
>>71589328
>The average 20-30 year-old woman has the same aerobic capacity as a 50 year-old man.
>>71574394
>>71574187
You know, why exactly are you opposing this? Why can't we send women to die in war while we drink cocktail at our penthouse balcony? Everyone wins.
>>71579185
interesting read famalam
i hadn't thought about it from that some of those perspectives before
>>71591991
Women aren't going to be sent to fight Muslims, they're going to administer roadblocks and random traffic stops.
>>71574615
Any reliable sources on all the cushy shit the women got in order to just pass ranger school? I'd like to be able to dangle more than some blog post I saw on 4chan over their heads.
>>71591991
>Everyone wins
except when the women lose the fucking war and you become a part of the Muslim Caliphate
>>71592317
How about we send them to fight Muslims then?
>>71592484
That's okay, desperate times take for desperate measures. Once they lose - provided they do lose, men can take over the job of defending.
>>71591991
>implying women are getting more than 10 kilometers near real fighting
The only ones winning are feminists with their meaningless publicitary stunts with the only purpose of making things work worse
>>71581284
2x his bodyweight is 400lbs. Fuck out of here m8.
>>71592843
fug less
>>71592843
Yea that's the status quo, how about we change it? Women front line. Men in logistics and shit that matters.
LIBERALS SAID STANDARDS WOULD *NOT* BE LOWERED
>>71583647
thats womyndatory you sexist scum
>>71585223
because israel doesn't have a choice, being actually surrounded by nations that want to nuke them very much.
Anyways israeli women seem to actually understand the necessity of serving well and honorably in the military, instead of the us version - muh equal rights! want wear camo now sexist scum!
>>71574187
women soldiers are the child soldiers.
>>71593124
But they didnt lower the standards.
They just gave women different ones ;)))))
I dunno best korea has female soldiers and its a pretty cool country
>>71588852
russia ain't that bad, at least the cities aren't. The countryside is beautiful as well.
I am all for females becoming soldiers if they are capable, that said, they should be held to the optimal standards required in the field.
>>71581125
Are we talking about pullups or chinups here?
I never understood why pullups are so weirdly difficult to some but not to others.
>>71574052
>“It is very doable for women to do pullups,”
It's doable for EVERYONE to do pullups. What do you think, they're some magical workout that takes forever? ANYONE could do 3 pullups if you gave them a month to train. The fact that you're ready to sign up for something as physically taxing as the military without taking one fucking month to train yourself to do 3 god damn pullups should be a huge red flag that you're not mentally fit.
>The colonel is confident “women will surprise everyone” if the proposals are adopted.
The only people who will be surprised are feminists when they hear that women, until were shot because they couldn't handle combat, were dragging down efficiency of the team.
The military is literally letting people who get more retarded to handle guns and to expect them to carry out orders.
>>71575290
It's 20 for men, I believe. Standards were already lowered. This is another step.
>>71582031
>fighting opressed poc
thats rayciss anon. They're just marginalized and misunderstood
>Be 20
>Joined the marines out of high school because I wanted to serve my country and have always been attracted to the military life
>Women in my squad.
>They're alright I guess but they don't carry as much gear and they bitch about everyfuckingthing.
>Durkshitastan has collapsed and become a haven for terrorists.
>Pres decides we're going in to kick some doors down and regain control of the region.
>We go in.
>On patrol though some shitty mudhut town.
>Get ambushed
>We end up pinned down behind a mud wall.
>I get shot in the leg.
>Woman next to me cant drag me to a safer place, or tear my pant leg open.
>guy has to run to our location to administer aid.
>he gets shot.
>now we have two men down.
>We need to get a grenade down range.
>Woman can't throw it far enough.
>Women come in medivac, can't carry both of us to chopper. More men from squad have to do it.
>Everyone fucking dies because women were a burden and not an asset in a combat situation.
>Women get taken prisoner and raped for 40 days and 40 nights.
this is why I don't want women in combat.
>>71593859
/thread
>>71576674
I can't disagree, it would make women even more useless.
>>71574394
Same study different format.
I knew someone who did this integrated bullshit with the our AAVP7.
Fucking disaster, they couldn't do heavy work like changing the tracks on the suspension or anything on the suspension bu themselves despite the fact there were 5 of them. Couldn't drive for shit, were terrible shots in the turret, fucked the males over since they got the vehicles all to themselves while the men had to sleep outside, hygiene became a serious fucking problem and the guys couldn't just go up to a bitch and tell her to wash her disgusting axe wound since the female NCOs weren't doing it.
And the bitching, holy shit the bitching, non stop even though they volunteered for it.
Thank God I'm getting out.
>>71574052
I'd say something but I know I couldn't do 20 pull-ups despite how much I go to the gym. I can't grip that long. Doesn't help I'm 270 but hey, at least I can dead lift 600 lbs. I'll get far with that, right?
Boston Dynamics better hurry it up with those terminators
>>71576582
>>71581041
Ehh not anymore, you can avoid actually serving using one of the 300 law's loop-holes.
>>71589328
>frequent incontinence
>critically injured after an IED attack
>need to be dragged a couple hundred feet for medivac
>female soldier is by my side
>grabs me by the shoulders but can't even move me an inch
>tvision slowly fades
>last feeling before I slip into the abyss is her pissing on my face
>>71594410
I have read on other forums that women in the field regularly go down with UTIs and other vaginal infections and it isn't uncommon for half the women to be recalled each month for treatment.
They can't wash their cunts properly in the field and they get infected.
>Want to join the military
>Feel my chances of survival dwindle as I read this thread
Guess my only choices now are becoming a SEAL or going into a non-combat role.
>>71595420
All it is is incentive to become even better. You have to become a better man to make up for the introduction of women.
>>71594520
You wouldn't be let in to the military at 270, even if it was all muscle (which I know it's not, fat ass). They have rules against that shit.
Why does anyone like America for?
The worl needs to declare war on us and end it. I won't fight back
Why would anyone NOT want women to DIE on the front lines. This sounds great to me. The way I see it the only people who would suffer are the squad mates whose lives will be endangered because they are depending on women.
>>71595240
This has to be a myth of some kind.
Why didn't all women die out before we started taking baths?
>>71593124
>LIBERALS SAID STANDARDS WOULD *NOT* BE LOWERED
Literally every word out of a liberal's mouth is a lie. They are physically and mentally incapable of telling the truth, about anything, because their mental illness blocks it.
>>71576582
Really? You would figure there would be lower crime rates... So are all the gangbangers former soldiers with firearms training?
>>71595783
I don't know what it's like in other places but they don't like having soldiers under 15% body fat. Also if your 4% BF you need to eat a lot of protein that army rations don't give.
Fat = more energy befor needing to eat.
That said you also can't be to fat or your to slow and get tired fast.
>>71577387
Same old welfare queens
>>71595980
America isn't ready to hear about female soldiers dying or getting raped on the battle field.
>>71595990
Maybe they just bathed in a pond or river?
>>71595990
>Why didn't all women die out before we started taking baths?
They did. They're all dead now, anon.
>>71576911
Eventually gaining the power to send men off to die in wars because patriarchy.
They won't be sent into actual combat in our life times. Right guys?
>>71576911
But its already like that though. Women can get any non-combat arms role in the military. The shittiest MOS is infantry; most grueling, most hazing,most demanding, etc etc.
As a former infantryman, i can tell you that it was absolute shitfest. why do women want this?
i give up
>>71581534
>I do not understand why anyone would join the military unless they were going to try to be Spec ops or Special forces.
Uhh maybe some people want to go into intelligence or some kind of technical field.
>>71597087
>Lopez joins the military
>"lol girl power, right? fuck the guys."
>"what do you mean i have to fight for my country?"
>goes awol
>>71581836
Every female NCO i ever met was an absolute bitch. Its like the only way they think they can get guys to listen to them is to be an cunt, which might work for the pogs but not so much in the infantry.
We had a terminal lance who did 2 tours with us in afghan, he was a badass motherfucker but shitbagged his way through everything else so he never picked up rank. Some female admin Sgt was treating him like shit when she had never done a combat deployment ever in her life. Long story short, he ended up breaking her nose and he got ninja punched down to a private.
>>71574052
Take the red pill and shrug, Atlas. Let the cunts do all the fighting. Stay home and fap.
>>71574052
How the fuck are people able to perform the mental gymnastics necessary to believe that this isn't going to weaken the military. If you have a situation where suddenly the Marines are expected to accept people who can't do 1 pull-up as being marines, then that hurts the internal culture of the entire organization. The Marines have always taken pride in their unflinching standards. Taking that away from them is the perfect way to reduce moral and mutual trust within the organization.
China and Russia will mock us for this and we deserve it.
>>71597441
But would want to defend a country that hates you?
>>71575290
Remember hearing about that fat US soldier in Iraq.
Apparently he was some wizard with setting up computer networks and had already left the army. But invasion happened and they needed his expertise. So they got a ton of medical waivers for him.
And so a meme was born.
>>71597087
Any update on this story?
>>71598087
She came back later on, but I don't believe that her case is over
Yeah because even though they had over a year to get ready, almost no WMs could even do three pull ups.
Three.
The male max is 20.
>>71597950
Politicians come and go. They can dig their fingers into the government and warp it. They can twist the media and change public opinion. They can do everything under the sun to turn your country on its back and destroy it. At the end of the day though, they will go. What endures is an idea. The idea that your country was built on will survive. It doesn't matter what your homeland looks like as long as there's still a spark of hope left in its heart. Don't fight for what your country is, fight for its idea. Fight for what is was--what it could be. Politicians can change its face, but they can't change its heart.
>>71594520
No, no you won't, you would get shot because you lack every other ability you need, if you got shot I would not come get you, that's 270+about 100 worth of gear...
Source: I'm a Marine with 2 deployments that sucked...
Look, every Marine that you see that has muscles are gym rat pogs that don't actually do anything else except go to the gym. You need a combination of cardio and muscle, that is just the reality of it. God forbid if you ever run out of food, I am sure you have a 5000 calorie diet. Have you ever had to fight without a meal for the day? That is what separates the men from the boys...
>>71598520
>Politicians come and go.
But the gynocentric system doesn't.
>>71597983
>rare as fug cia proxyfag sticking up for IT bro
there is hope for america
I can just imagine being injured on the battlefield, unable to move. Desperate for assistance, I call out for help. One of my fellow marines runs over to me. It's a female. She says to me
"sry, I don't think I can carry you lol bye."
So a man is required to do more work in order to pass the fitness tests?
That's literally sexism.
I really don't see the problem with this, its going to have zero impact on any combat since no female marine is ever going to see a frontline.
Female soldiers are only good at sucking a lot of dicks and getting pregnant for extra government bucks.
>>71599374
>>71578524
What? How come?
