Alright, guys. It's time to have a conversation.
I want you to present arguments of sensitive subject matter in a way that would resonate with an average person.
For example, explain to me why race-mixing is objectively bad. Before you get your panties in a bunch, I'm not saying it is good, but if anyone is going to see your point of view, you have to back it up. So, where is the backup?
I have a few more questions, I'll wait until people can address this first one adequately before I post them.
Remember: No bullshit like "common sense", no buzzwords like "degenerate" or "cuck". I want some substantiated claims.
Also, let's just leave the "LOL HOLOHOAX" simply because I'm not interested in those debates.
I'm looking for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw tier quality at the very least.
>>71563175
It's not bad.
But it's not something good or beautiful like some liberals would have you believe.
>>71563175
>because fuck you shill REEEEEEEEEE
it's the ultimate /pol/ reply ending all non-hugbox discussion
>>71563175
Dilution of IQ
>unless you race mix up (East Asians)
>but this kills the tall man
The two biggest issues with race mixing are health and cultural. Mixed children are more likely to have certain health problems than their more ethnically homogeneous peers and it's much more difficult for them to find blood donors that are a proper match.
Culturally it's about the fact that we should not damn any race or culture to genetic extinction. Since white majority nations are the most diverse and most liberal we are currently the race with the most to lose should race mixing be the norm or the most common form of reproduction. We are also minorities on a global scale so it's not as if we would all be one race, we'd just lose out races that are the minority on a global scale. The same applies to any race at risk of extinction of course. You wouldn't tell a Native American that they need to race mix and sacrifice their culture because if they do then they will essentially go extinct while majority groups like Sub-Saharan Africans and Asians will still be there. And due to there being so many more Asians, Blacks, and Indians than Whites, Aboriginals, and Native Americans you would eventually just lose the latter groups and only have the previous continue.
>>71563175
>devils advocate
Uhh, don't you mean "Doubles Advocate?"
The trips will proof racemixing is bad
>>71563175
I want my children to look like me.
>>71564204
You can't tell a normie that other races are less intelligent. They'll just call you racist and say that the data doesn't count because 'reasons' ranging from 'IQ is not a good way to determine intelligence' to 'they're only dumb because of racism'
>>71564204
oy vey thats just the flynn effect goyim
>>71564851
>I want my children to look like me.
There's a "my wife's son" joke here somewhere.
>>71563175
At the end of the day what convinced me as a then-leftist to recognize the red pill was not data or reason but a shift in my own maturity. The main mechanism of leftist thought is to ignore data and misuse reason to justify wrong and malogn right. They must touch bottom -- they must be externally made to realize that there is a such a thing as reality, and all the reason in the world cannot scratch the thing. Consider the passage in Herodotus where the Greeks put data outside of logic and say that logic is there tohelp you understand data, but the Persians dismiss the evidence of their eyes if their reasoning literally cannot even deal with it.
>>71563175
>For example, explain to me why race-mixing is objectively bad.
Even if all races were equal (they aren't) should't we they care all of them?
That's the real diversity, transfrom every single country in brown is a crime.
If you have faith you should appreciate all the God's creation and protect it, if you haven't you should appreciate the diversity given by the nature and protect it.
There's no excuse to race mixing, it's bad because it ends with ethnics groups.
>>71563175
I'm not against race mixing at all, to be honest. I've always never been against race mixing. The problem, though is NOT race mixing, but the sociological impact it has. Let's face facts, it's 2016 and people are still complaining about racism. I don't want to deny it. I'm tired of denying. We're not getting along. It's healthy for people to have a respect for the society and community which they live, because it's a reflection of who we are. We no longer respect our societies and communities, because we're inwardly divided, but outwardly inviting; this is what the Roman empire looked like before it fell and became divided among different peoples, such as the Italians, Romanians, the French, Spanish, etc.
Socialization is an inward process, not an inclusive process; it prioritizes a standard. Regrettably, biracial children have a hard time fitting in with one group as they do with the other, and that's understandable, because there's a standard. We're never going to truly be free if we can't live in a society that doesn't prioritize the average as a standard. In more recent times, there's a rise of nationalism all over the western world, and it's because the western world is falling; nationalism is that rebirth. It's an attempt at correcting the mistakes that happened last cycle.
>>71563175
Mostly because its enforced somewhat by public media in a strange attempt to create an hate-free society.
If race mixing happened without the media blaring about it, i wouldnt care at all since uninfluenced people will pick their mates based on what they perceive as best for life, and at times, maybe Tyrone indeed is who would be your perfect match for life.
But the deliberate glorification of it in the media and how it saves all the worlds ills is what irks me, as it causes nothing but idiocy to spread.
Im not against race mixing as it happens naturally, but i am against any deliberate programming to promote and normalize it, just the same with gay´s and trannies.
>>71563175
Let me make this very abundantly clear you pseudo intellectual wannabe enlighten iluminati.
There is no grey area in this world. You choose a side and hope for the best. Of fucking course race mixing is good, it's one of the first step towards an homogeneous type one civilization. This is why the elite push it, in fact, you probably heard me before ranting about this on this very board, which gave you that absurd idea that maybe just maybe we were wrong.
But we aren't. Pushing type one before it's natural time will be a disaster. It's the very reason we never contacted anyone before, because everyone else failed like we're about to. You can't just force everyone to hold hands and sing happy songs and we'll all live in a socialist utopia ruled by an all beneficent AI.
This take time to achieve, much more time and delusional fucks like you who think we can skip chaos and just be all happy together are just pathetic. There need to be blood first and if you skip that there'll be nothing at all.
>>71566434
>Of fucking course race mixing is good, it's one of the first step towards an homogeneous type one civilization. This is why the elite push it, in fact, you probably heard me before ranting about this on this very board, which gave you that absurd idea that maybe just maybe we were wrong.
That is completly stupid. Why we should move to an homogeneous sociaty, why we have to destroy our diversity.
Humans should be classified in races, because it's a fact that there are differences and all MUST be preserved, it's just pointless and stupid make dissapear some of those parts that compose the mandkind.
OP Here.
>>71564204
Here's a start.
But first you've have to provide data to backup WHY intelligence is genetic, not societal, and HOW intelligence outweighs the other benefits to race mixing (less prone to certain diseases, physical attributes, etc).
>>71564546
1. I'm pretty sure the opposite is true. I know there is tons of data on dogs to back this up (I'm not saying were the same as dogs).
2. Why shouldn't we (I'm white)? If you make this argument, you'd have to argue why any race, in particular, is worth a special kind of saving. Once again, it's hard to do this without seeming racist.
>>71564934
This.
>>71565149
Something I've considered- How do you convince people to use logic and reasoning especially when it doesn't suit their interests?
>>71565834
I'm not religious (inb4 fedora)
>>71566412
I can agree with this. But why does media influence automatically make something bad? I can think of a lot of positive uses for media-based propaganda. I feel similarly to these points, though.
>>71566434
What the fuck are you rambling on about, leaf?
>>71567011
Because you don't know that Brave New World is an Elite's instructions book.
>>71567147
I'm saying shut the fuck up you literal nigger. Yes I know you're black. Let's all go back playing counter strike now and forget about you shitbait kuck thread.
>>71567147
>I can agree with this. But why does media influence automatically make something bad? I can think of a lot of positive uses for media-based propaganda. I feel similarly to these points, though.
Its mostly that its somewhat deliberately engineered, and will cause friction in the society that would have never happened if the mixing were naturally generated in places where the races border. And there is no guarantee it will solve any ethnic conflicts at all with it, witch is the main reason its even broadcasted so much in the media.
Even in half-mixed and black populations like haithi, without a single pure white person after they killed them all, there was racism on who showed signs of "whiteness" among the mixed races, and i could find more examples of it even more.
Or even the fact that you dont need to be of another race entirely for friction to generate from undue contact, as lots of europe has nasty history among eachother that deliberate mixing would only reopen.
The media influence itself is bad because it has gagged any research into the after-effects of race mixing from a scientific perspective, calling any that question it as racist lies and so cutting the idea off from any criticism.
The media bias toward the race mixing is generating an echo chamber where any visible sign that its not a good idea to practice on large scale is shut down by the progressives.
>>71567572
Lmao. You're a fucking idiot.
Firstly, still white.
Secondly I play SMITE and private vanilla WoW
Thirdly, consider suicide.
