How many disillusioned Berniefags are going to get behind Trump in November?
In their eyes, a party establishment that doesn't even try to hide its contempt for them has been ramming an establishment candidate down their throats, blatantly rigging the primary since day one. You know we felt after Colorado? That's how Berniefags have been feeling since the beginning.
You don't even have to be a liberal to see how fucking corrupt the DNC is. I for one welcome them aboard. The DNC is every bit as corrupt (if not more) than the RNC, and Trump is the only one who can and will rip the Washington establishment up by the roots. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
They'll fall in line and vote for Hillary by and large. They're talking tough now, but I guarantee you that they will never ever be able to pull the lever for a Republican no matter how mad they got at the DNC due to the brainwashing of perceiving Republicans as the embodiment of evil
>>71541722
>trumpfags being this desperate
>>71541924
There are a good number of them buying into the Leninist "heighten the contradictions" position. They believe that if the primary rigging works and Hillary gets nominated, the system is beyond saving and needs to be destroyed, which Trump has vowed to do.
>>71542224
>leaf
>>71541722
>You know we felt after Colorado? That's how Berniefags have been feeling since the beginning.
No. There was no voting in Colorado. Your primary isn't "rigged", it's that niggers and women overwhelmingly want Clinton. Your entire party has devolved into identity politics, deal with it.
I'm one. The thought of the snake bitch in the White House scares me, so now I'm behind Trump. Fuck Hitlery
>>71543026
>Your
What part of my post indicates that I'm a Bernie supporter? I voted for Trump in New York. I just happen to know enough of them to know that they feel personally betrayed by the DNC, and that it's reaching its boiling point.
>>71543184
Welcome aboard, but we're still building the wall. Don't worry, those niggers will pay.
>>71543420
Thanks. That's honestly one Trump position I've been behind 100% since before they even began the primaries. How can you argue for allowing people to BREAK THE LAW? Illegal immigration is ILLEGAL. Fucking retards on the dem side don't get it. It hurts everyone when you turn a blind eye to this shit.
>>71541722
If trump chooses Carson as running mate, I suspect a decent chunk of berniefags would come over.
>>71543818
I dunno, I like Carson, but that shit about the pyramids was pants-on-head retarded. The left would make a laughing stock out of him.
More likely he'll pick Crispy.
>>71541722
Tbh Bernie is just losing
Bernie voter here.
While I've got some pretty left wing views, and I'd prefer Bernie over Trump, I'm still ultimately going to vote AGAINST the current political establishment in the general. We just better hope that Trump can make New York a swing state again, tho, since that's the one I live in.
>>71543983
It's Webb.
>>71541722
Berniefags seem to consist of people that hate Trump the most though.
>>71544308
It's just them going with the flow. They'll come around.
>>71544211
>Trump/Webb ticket
Oh baby.jpg
>>71543026
So how to we get the white male Bernie cucks to vote Trump?
>>71544308
After all this shit, I think they hate the DNC establishment more. You can only tell your base to sit down, shut up, and vote for the establishment candidate for so long before the base revolts.
Look no further than the state of the Republican establishment to see where that leads.
I doubt many will actually vote for Trump, but they probably won't vote at all.
>>71544621
Honestly the way I was flipped was looking back at all the lies Clinton has told and all the shit she has flipped sides on when it's convenient for her. If he hammers she can't be trusted he will win
>>71544106
you're full of shit and its obvious, no one who vote bernie would even consider Trump.
as for being against the establishment, Trump IS the establishment
>>71544760
They certainly won't vote for Hillary, which gives Trump the nom either way.
I'm a Bernout who realizes Sanders has no chance of winning, and I'm voting Trump in the general
>>71541722
What happens if both parties cuck the American people and make the race Clinton v Kasich?
Will there be enough outrage to unite people against the system even from opposite ideological divides? That would involve actively disenfranchising a huge chunk of the population, most of whom are already angry
>>71544857
>Algeria
You don't know anything about American politics first hand, so why the fuck should anybody take your opinion seriously?
I guess sanders supporters aren't all that bad
We're both pissed about the same shit, I could work with them
>>71543026
>the super delegate system isn't a rigged mechanism to keep outsiders from gaining party support
I'm voting for Sanders in the primary (PA), but if he doesn't make it to the general then I'm voting against Clinton. I don't like Trump, I think that his views on climate change are retarded, but I also agree with him on more things than I agree with Clinton on.
My voting order would be Sanders>Trump>Kasich>Cruz=Clinton, I'd vote third party if it's Cruz vs Clinton. Fuck both of them.
>>71541722
None, if Bernie doesn't run for president I'm voting Gary Johnson.
>>71543668
I always thought the wall is a huge waste of time, money, and effort.
I say we just forcibly register all the illegals and make them pay taxes, plus back taxes.
Responsibility will get rid of and keep out the undesirable elements faster than any wall ever would. Especially because renouncing US citizenship is a difficult process and you still owe the government income taxes if you return to your country, once you've been made a citizen
>clinton in power
#prayforiran
>>71545507
I don't have numbers, but it seems a one time investment into prevention of the problem from occurring would be less than the time and money spent to dedicating an entire force of people to tracking down illegals though, long term?
>>71543026
>responds to a post about Bernout feelings
>tries to argue against the Bernout feelings with facts
Lad pls
![YVkljUK[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0BPrH9b.jpg "YVkljUK[1].jpg")
What did he mean by this?
I'm gonna be voting for Bernie in California primaries regardless of how far behind he is. If he doesn't I'm not voting period. Hillary's an awful hag with no spine and Trump's a egotistical cocksucker trying to become POTUS for the glory.
Sanders is not flexible at all it's a fucking shame, dude regurgitates the same lines over and over again but he's the lesser evil of the 3.
>>71546440
>chicken nuggets
Very subtle /r9k/
>>71546440
coming from a fellow bernie cuck, he seems like a spoiled, cucked brat
>>71544621
Don't. Please don't. All those Buddy Holly glasses wearing, "Don't talk to my wife's son" spouting, "You're a white male" shouting cucks are traitors, and will only poison the Trump train from within. Let them stamp their feet and flee to Canada, then let us build a second wall to keep them out.
>>71546256
Why do you think a wall is a one time expense? It has a large upfront investment, but it still requires constant maintenance to be effective.
It is also easier to coerce people into submitting to documentation, you would have to track them down if you want to deport them, but simply expediting the registration procedure seems more efficient. Combine that with draconian restrictions for undocumented people, then you do not even need to track them down.
>>71541722
Probably just fall in line, first boast is best boast
The best way to get them behind the God-Emperor (IMO) is to point out that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (chairwoman of the DNC) has been Hillary's butt buddy for a long time.
>>71546644
whats it like being a massive cuck?
I'm not voting for that lying cunt, and I'm certain the FBI will issue some kind of indictment. The list of obvious crimes piles up everyday. I'll just be sitting this election out.
>WAH ITS RIGGED
No, it's not. Your party is just shit and full of minorities who vote against you.
>>71546993
Yes but I would venture to guess the maintenance costs of the wall would be less than the deport force. Plus, why would we want to have people willing to break the law here at all? if they can't follow that law, what others will the be breaking while here. In my head, it's just better to stop a problem from happening than to try to fix it after.
>>71545072
I'd like to say "Hope for a write-in victory for Trump", but the best I'll realistically hope for is enough write-in votes to garner him federal funding to run again in 4 years
>>71541722
#bernieorbust
>>71547775
>WAH IF I DONT GET BERNIE I'M GONNA RIOT
Literally children.
>>71542224
hahahahah leaf has an opinion hahaha nigga nobodies care what you have to say, leaf. go back to looking at mooses and drinking molsons while your country deteriorates hahaha you're just jealous we have a guy who is gonna save us unlike you and trudeau hahahahaha
>>71541722
They are all idiots.
They will vote for the neo con because reddit has programmed them to hate trump.
They're just not smart enough to know it.
>>71547883
lawsuits piling up in az, ny next?
>>71547775
You really expect the fruity rumpus band of perpetual adolescents to actually riot? They'll block traffic and make anyone older than 40 hate them even more.
>>71548254
It's funny that Bernie voters always cry rigged when they lose.
>>71548536
and then they win
>>71545507
>make them pay imaginary debt numbers
kek. they don't have the money to begin with. 45% of the country doesn't pay federal income tax and you believe these spics are going to go above and beyond?
>>71548738
Who's winning again? :^)
>>71546440
>This can't be happening.
>>71547883
>"TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE VIOLENT CRAZY PEOPLE"
>Bernie starts losing
>[berniefags chimping out intensifies]
>>71549065
>>71541722
Cali-fag here.
Since the very beginning I have been
Bernie >> Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cruz > Clinton
If Bernie isn't in the race, I'm going to vote for Trump.
My primary goal is to see a Nationalist who is outside Washington DC's normal machine politics get elected so we can finally get some fucking change in this country.
Bernie and Trump are the ONLY candidates who would repeal our race-to-the-bottom free trade agreements and work to fix our immigration problem and stop destabilizing our economy with the flood of unskilled illegals from South America.
>>71549536
>Bernie and Trump are the ONLY candidates who would repeal our race-to-the-bottom free trade agreements and work to fix our immigration problem and stop destabilizing our economy with the flood of unskilled illegals from South America.
Pretty sensible position tbqh. I don't like anyone in the race but there are clearly some that are better than others.
>>71549675
The primary differences between Trump & Bernie are related to tax platforms and college. Bernie favors taxing the rich more than the poor and Trump is more into flat tax ideas.
On international issues the two are very, very close but just talk about it in different ways. They both support closed borders, high tariffs on imported goods, and a rebuilding of the American manufacturing base.
>>71547217
I'm sorry you must have gotten me confused with your father
>>71547775
How are you going to do that without guns?
>>71549843
Bernie supported closed borders? I must have missed that.
>>71546440
>wasting your GBP
bruh
>>71541722
I'm sure some of them will. Most of them however, even if they absolutely despise Clinton, will probably end up going for her anyways once they realize their only other option is Trump.
Looking at US politics as an outsider, anything but fucking Clinton. Whether it's Bernie, Trump anyone other possibility even doesn't matter. If I lived in the United States and wasn't redder than blood, I would probably have voted for Carson since he has a STEM background and everything went to shit in Sweden when we stopped having people with real jobs/education in leadership positions.
>>71550430
just watch
>>71541722
Trump has always been my #2. So yeah if it's Hillary v Trump, I'm going Trump. If it's Hillary v Cruz... well fuck idk what I'll do. Probably kill someone
I said it yesterday but got shitposted at but I'm a Bernie supporter who's gonna vote for Donald J. Trump is Shillary gets the nomination.
But I don't think Bernie is out yet. There's less than a 300 difference between pledged delegates right now between Bernie and Shillary.
>>71550452
Yeah he supports it in theory, he seems to understand that unlimited cheap labor from the 3rd world hurts Americans. But I don't think he's going to do shit about it. I don't think Trump will either. The wall will never happen, even if there's a chance of Trump getting elected.
>>71546440
>#tendielife
>>71550887
I'm watching anon.
>>71551326
Wall is already up in east europe, wouldn't be surprised if it goes up even if Trump isn't elected
>>71541722
ask this guy
It would be really nice if Bernie ran third party.
>>71551769
Sure thing buddy
>>71551780
Instead why dont you pull that cock out your ass.
>>71546969
Not all Bernie supporters are SJWs. I've been a Bernie supporter since last summer, however even if it's Bernie v Trump in the general, I'll have a hard decision to make.
I hate feminism, I hate the racist BLM movement, I hate all that intersectionality shit, I hate fat acceptance, etc etc etc.
However, I still like Bernie mostly due to his economic policies (citizens united, the idea of making sure the middle class has more spending power to increase consumer spending, etc). But, there's always more than one way to get to the same result - and I'm hopeful that Trump can also help out the middle class. Plus, if he's president, I get to watch SJWs cry.
>>71547883
Societal patterns point toward oligarchy peaking in the twenties leading to an either autocratic revolution like in France or interwar germany or a socialist one. After that revolution society will slowly slide back towards aristocracy. It is inevitable. Choose between autocracy or socialism
>>71541924
Yep, and this is what will happen with Cruz supporters too.
>>71541722
>How many disillusioned Berniefags are going to get behind Trump in November?
Well for one Trump is an open fascist and Nazi and Sanders is the polar opposite of that.
>>71552183
>Making sure middle class has more spending power
>Voting for the guy who is raising the taxes on the middle class to buy for shaqushas Degree in wymns studies
You don goofed up there dipshick.
>>71552861
Not raising taxes on the middle class, and yeah sure maybe some fags will go to college for women's studies but fuck 'em. Some people who can't afford college now would be able to get a valuable and marketable 4 year degree, and therefore get a good job - which will take them off of SNAP, welfare, and other social spending programs.
>>71552842
Nice b8 m8
I keep thinking this too
>>71553023
>Not raising taxes on the middle class
>>71547888
>the average Trump supporter
>>71552183
I'm middle class and I'll have less spending money - his tax policies will remove $8,000 more of my yearly income. I hardly visit the doctor and I have insurance and invest in an HSA so I can easily pay when I do.
If he would restrict "free college" to majors which are in demand and extended the offer to trade schools, I wouldn't be so against his fiscal policies.
I have a major problem with him repeating "WALL STREET ooga booga scary ghost[sic]" because 2008 was a margin call for cash. It was also the banks dealing with shitty hands from the Community Reinvestment Act (Democratic led, requiring a minimum number of loans based on race, credit, and income or face a fine) and people buying houses never thinking that they could depreciate in value. Banks can't float that many loans, so they had to repackage them, and no one would buy a package which consisted primarily of sub-prime mortgages.
>>71553697
>Raising taxes on people who can't even afford to buy from a gumball machine
Comrade Bernie Sanders, everyone.
>>71553697
Those are long term capital gains taxes. I don't know about you, but I don't know many middle class people who are big into the stock market
>pol actually thinks far left nuts would vote republican ever
this place is truly fantasy land
>>71554103
Capital gains aren't only "stocks". That would include interest on your bank account.
I'm >>71553885 (middle class) and I'm into the stock market. I have several brokerage accounts. My $8,000 figure does not include any capital gains.
>>71553149
there's plenty of "artwork" dedicated to her
>>71554103
Anon thats the problem no one thinks they own stock but you most likely do through your retirement plan.Also no these are just straight up taxes on income fuckwit.
>>71553885
I know how the crash happened. And about the democratic led affirmative-action style loans, I'm completely against that. Not a fan of any kind of affirmative action, I'm for the 2nd amendment, etc.
However, I would still like to see how Bernie's policies would work in practice - I'm pretty confident that they'd be beneficial for the economy.
How exactly are you going to be losing ~$8k if he's president?
>>71554196
Them staying home instead of voting for Clinton would be magnificent as well, but many Bernouts would vote Trump just to "watch it all burn".
Little do they know that instead America will be made Great Again when Donald is president.
>>71554468
>but many Bernouts would vote Trump just to "watch it all burn".
see, fantasy land
>>71554103
Fuck you.
The money used in stock market was already taxed. Re-taxing wealth is a dick move.
But you're okay with that. You want free shit.
Repost this and upvote/like it when you see it.
>>71554467
If you thought the 2008 housing bubble was bad, just you wait. Obama's policies on interest rates and quantitative easing created even bigger bubbles. Trump and Rand Paul are the only two candidates that point this out.
>>71554404
No they're capital gains taxes. Look at the title of the chart, and look at the percentages.
>>71554318
You're right, they're not only stocks - however they are mostly stocks I would argue. Also, you are not taxed on capital gains until you cash out. And if you cash out before *1 year and 2 days* after buying your capital asset, then you're taxed at a normal rate anyway.
*holding period begins 1 day after purchase of capital asset, then you need to hold >1 year before selling the asset for it to be treated beneficially when taxed
>>71554467
That's off my yearly income. I would fit into a higher tax bracket. I will be honest and say that I do not know the details of his tax policies, very top-level.
I honestly don't like Trump that much either as he wants to reduce our privacy. Trump and Bernie would add so much to our national debt that it would never realistically be paid off.
I can't stand Cruz, I like nothing about him from his speech patterns to his face.
>>71554318
I deal in options too and those are short-term capital gains.
>>71554882
Sorry is this better anon.
>>71554591
I don't want free shit. I am going to a private college, paying for loans myself. I will be getting a job after the next school year, I'll work for about 1 year (hopefully no longer), go to grad school to get my MBA in finance - and then I'll begin my career
>>71541722
Put it this way:
My friends and I watch the US presidential race from afar, wondering how you get in these predicaments. We realise that Hillary is the same economic globalist scum that Trump is. We would vote for Bernie, but if he's gone, we wouldn't vote for anyone. On economic issues they're all the same.
>>71544857
there are retards who think "hurr anti-establishment"
Yes, I've run into many of them. And when I asked them what platforms they had in common they'd all go "uhhhh"
>>71555197
>Trump
>Globalist
What?
>>71555416
You're kidding, right?
>>71555530
No. How is Trump a globalist?
He is definitely a populist.
>>71555530
STFU CARL
>>71542224
This
If Bernie loses he's gonna endorse Hillary and the rest of his supporters will follow. Trump is literally a retarded version of Hitler, Bernie supporters are too intelligent to vote for such an inbred.
>>71555072
Ok come on now. Even the current payroll tax numbers are wrong. That 15.4% comes directly from FICA - half of which is paid by the EMPLOYEE and half of which is paid by the EMPLOYER.
So, if you want this chart to be less biased - cut all of those payroll tax numbers in half.
For example: Income above $0 would only be 7.65% - which makes it 10.95% under Bernie.
Of course that would be more expensive for middle class people - except they can save money on medicare-for-all, they can send their kids to free college, etc.
Even further, most people making wages that low are being paid by the government with deductions and refundable tax credits. My mom, for example, has 3 kids, is divorced, makes ~$40k per year, and ends up getting about $5k from from the government at the end of the year - $3k of which were withholdings, the other $2k are straight from refundable credits.
>>71555931
People that think money grows on trees are intellingent?
>>71555950
See I don't think that the "sending college to free" is a valid point because most kids are taking out loans, and although some parents cosign, this doesn't make it cheaper for the parents. Most of your other points seem fine.
>>71556055
It does
>>71556185
Fair enough
>>71555625
Wow, ok...
He is a free-trade economic globalist that doesn't give a shite about US jobs, which is blatantly obvious considering where his cringey hats are made (China), and his brand name suits for instance are made in Mexico.
He backed the Clinton's with money and following Reagan's shipping of US industry overseas, when Bill Clinton came into office, he repealed glass and steagall and deregulated the financial sector, shitting on your financial services to the point where they caused the greatest recession in decades. All the while Trump continued to back and support and indeed by friends with these same Clintons.
Now he is trying to run for office on a so called conservative/populist platform which doesn't make sense considering he's spent his entire life not giving a shit about the US and wanting to line his own wallet.
ALso if you watch his speeches about how he's "Dealt with the Chinese many times before". If he wasn't an economic globalist, he would be doing that.
I don't know what you want me to say, he's a free market economic globalist with no moral compass.
>>71541924
first post best post
>>71551326
I have a good feeling it will
I can't remember the true numbers but Mexico would be losing over half of their trade income if we decided to stop. Even for a second, Mexico wouldn't, in my opinion, be okay with that. And would either succumb to trump or they will be dealt with in many many other ways. We have our hands around mexicos throat and they don't even know it. It CAN happen I just actually wonder what Mexico will do about it or if trump really has the testes to do it. They aren't a hard country to bully though by any means
>>71556516
>Hats made in China
The knockoffs are
>Backed the Clinton's
He has admitted to using the corrupt system to his company's gain, yes. He also wants to change that corrupt system, much to the disdain of many globalists like Soros.
>Bill Clinton repealing Glass Steagall
How does that have anything to do with Trump?
>Now he is trying to run for office on a so called conservative/populist platform which doesn't make sense considering he's spent his entire life not giving a shit about the US and wanting to line his own wallet.
How can you prove how anyone truly feels about anything?
Just by running he has brought a lot of positive attention to populist positions.
>ALso if you watch his speeches about how he's "Dealt with the Chinese many times before". If he wasn't an economic globalist, he would be doing that.
He is a business man who acted in the best interest of his business. That is different from believing in Global politics.
