Nationalism hardly has any, and by nature is barbaric and destructive. Prove me wrong.
>Pro Tip
You can't
>>71539927
You don't let other countries and people from other countries cuck your shit up.
>>71539994
Last I checked Nazi Germany got cucked.
>>71539927
No its not. Barbaric and destructive is letting the people your ancestors fought tooth and nail to make sure they didnt conquer your lands just come conquer your lands without a fight. Hell even inviting them in.
>>71540079
Only because usa and uk gave weapons and tanks to urss. It was unfair, a overkill. It's Japan's fault for attacking Pearl Harbor.
>being proud of your country is barbaric and destructive
>being self hating is not
look at sweden and today germany.
>>71540180
>Nazi Germany
>Not getting rekt
Pick one.
The only argument you guys have is that you don't invite them in. Nationalistic countries act hostile and get fucked.
>>71540079
Because other nations were already cucking them hard. Besides that even the USSR was nationalistic back then, every country was you uneducated dope. What was barbaric and destructive was each nation trying to out cuck one another.
Now the most cucked and walked over countries aren't nationalistic and the ones that do the walking still are because they stomp out the cucks that don't fight back.
>>71540644
>Nationalistic Countries fight
>Not an issue with Nationalism
Kek
>>71540454
>Nationalistic countries act hostile and get fucked.
>entire europe is fucked by muslim
>the only nationalistic countries, poland and bulgaria aren't
>>71540836
After Nationalism you get cucked. NAZI GERMANY
You have shit economics, oppression, and crime in nationalistic countries too.
>>71541039
so don't leave nationalism and you won't be cucked
>shit economics
>germany before hitler was shit with hyper inflation
>after a few years of hitler it was a world superpower and it still is
>usa thats also nationalistic is the number 1 superpower
>shit economics
yes,believe the jews, nationalism is bad, the right is to be self hating and ashamed of being white and open your borders for refugees.
He raises good points, nationalism really is barbaric in nature.
>>71539927
We've done nationalism under a different name for millions of years, we called it, or didn't call it Tribalism. Its just in our DNA to defend the tribe and its women, communist are just defective humans that couldn't run a lemonade stand let alone a world power. Its just a rebellion under a different name, its thuggery, a new age harrier.
>>71541368
>Not an argument
Try again shill. Hitler btw was the one who said "Let's just print more money"
>>71541782
>Tribalism and human "nature"
Kek, way to prove my point of barbarism.
>>71539927
Are you kidding me? Nationalism is core tenent in Mao Zedong Thought.
>looks at flag
it's
fucking
bourgeoise
>>71541943
The ideology survived a mass extinction, and helped us survive, its a tried and tested method, its been that way for thousands of years. Meanwhile Communism nearly doomed the world in a hundred.
We evolved, at a psychological level to work with this method.
We're not a hivemind species
>>71541862
>not a argument
saying that nationalism is barbaric is not a argument either, there is nothing wrong in liking your own country and being proud of it. the lack of nationalism is killing the western countries.
>Hitler btw was the one who said "Let's just print more money"
source.
>>71541943
>see muslims genociding your country
>don't fight back it would be barbaric
what kind of logic is that?
>>71542433
I made my arguments through my statements
Source? Fucking university history class.m you fucking drop out.
All you kids do is insult with no citation
Kek
>>71542793
>Source? Fucking university history class.
Yea a teacher said that in your leftist history class, and you totally believed it. I'm not surprised.
>All you kids do is insult with no citation
thats literally what you did on the entire thread, even with the hitler saying about printing money bullshit
>>71539927
oldfag here. When I was a lad, you could elave your doors open when you went out and nothing would be stolen. Children could play unsupervised in the streets. Old people were safe wherever they went.
All you need to do is mix a whole lot of new people with competely different cultures and they start closing themselves off into ghettos and start stealing from their richer hosts and creating distrust and the nation changes to what we have troughout the West.
Reason enough!
>>71539927
Burden of proof lies on your side. You didn't support your claim with a single argument other than unrelated image.
If you want to strike a discussion take a proper stance instead baiting people.
>>71542912
History is a source you fascist sheep. Holy fuck you kids are dumb. Also university>high school drop out
Also I'm not a hypocrite you guys started it
>>71543089
Yes you are a hypocrite, if that's really true it will be on a book on internet, '' i heard it somewhere'' is not a real source you fucking retard.
>>71543089
Nigger, you're retarded. Hitler had nothing to do with hyperinflation, he had no fucking power at the time. I think he might even have been in jail at the time.
nationalism is natural, leftist globalism is an ill-judged complex
>>71540079
But they didn't LET it happen.
>>71543198
Yes he did. Fucking BTFO
>>71543089
If you truly understood history you would know its a web of contradictory statements and only with logic and perceptiveness can one hope to comb through it all and come out with honest lessons.
You guys also have not listed any pros of Nationalism
>>71543830
It works
The tribe is protected, the tribe profits
>>71541709
>>71543950
Only the Africans you hate are tribal. Soooooo???
>>71540722
They fought because they got dragged into WW1 and then after that everyone was in each others business already. They were all nationalistic and all fought for their own countries.
Now countries that aren't nationalistic just get invaded and no one does anything or they get wiped out. Which sounds better to you retard?
>>71544012
I don't hate Africans, and I was using that term as a utilitarian term to refer to its evolution through time that still exists today, one such example being nationalism, and traditional family values being another.
>>71544276
Fuck off
> Nationalist European countries gave rise to the greatest advancements in the history of humankind
> Nationalist European societies (as they were homogeneous and ethnically united) saw the greatest prosperity ever achieved by mankind
> Nationalism iz bad, Nazis got cucked XD
KEK
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>>71540079
They weren't cucked, they expanded quickly and over extended themselves, and got raped for it. They kicked and screamed every step of the way, but the double penetration was too great, and she just kind of rolled over at the very end.
>>71539927
>implying nationalism isn't a way for a people created by a unique historical process to assert their way of life safely over a certain territory
Sick of this bullshit senpai.
>>71544507
op is crying in the bathroom of his history university, he can't post now
>>71544426
Next time just dont reply, it makes you look less stopid.
>>71539927
Get to the helicopters Steve
>>71539927
cultural nationalism>>>ethnic Nationalism>socialism>communism
>>71544012
maybe you should give them credit for their own accomplishments, liberal
>>71544426
Why do you hate traditional family values? Why do you dispise a sense of unity amongst a people sharing a common background, or taking pride in their heritage and national identity?
You guys are so ignorant. I can't fucking even. I have tears in my eyes knowing you intolerant filth exist fucking SAGE /pol. I hope you board is SAGED and replaced by superior Reddit omfg
>>71539927
>What are the benefits of Nationalism?
The nation, i.e. the most important thing in your life, can survive.
Get ready robe raided soon. HOLY SHIT
>>71539927
nature is barbaric and destructive? Wew lad
>>71540454
>Manage to hold off all the major powers for ~5 years
>lol rekt xD
wew
Without the nation, there are no means of production. For such a thing to be available, you need a group you can trust, ergo a nation. Without the nation, everybody only lives for themselves and their kin, so there are no communes, and there can be neither capitalism nor socialism, only robbery. Great nation + capitalism = prosperity and science. Great nation + socialism = prosperity and science. Society that does not deem a nation important + capitalism/socialism = perpetual depression.
>>71539927
You must be a troll for Islam. We wave the flag and bust evils ass daily. Pussies who do not love America vote Hillary. Without Nationalism how can we proceed with Manifest Destiny? With Trump as President we will not only kick Islam's ass but we also take their shit and their pussy if we choose to fuck a cockroach. So man up OP and pass the ammunition! Deus Vult! Islam has fucked themselves. The Dome of the Rock is ours when we decide to rebuild the Temple!
>>71539927
Nationalism is teamwork. A goal for people to work together towards. Small enough for solidarity, large enough for grandness and as a citizen of this nation, by improving the nation you are improving your own lives.
>>71539927
>t. multicult cuck
>>71539927
>and by nature is barbaric and destructive
That's written in the hearts of all men.
Only cucks, faggots and women fear destruction or "barbarism"
>>71546034
Not just that, the nation means a ethnic community in which you recognise yourself, in which you find a identity (a part of), in which you can find comfort and safety nets.
Without the community, without the bonds of our common culture, blood and customs we would be just stupid braindead consumers, which is exactly what those who push for Globalism want: millions of braindead moronic slaves who work to pay useless crap and perpetually live in debt.
So I say, fuck off Globalism: I'm European by blood, by culture and by language and I won't let my continent die.
>>71540079
When is that new nigger $20 bill coming up again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHsSzRPOGoU
It gives me a reason to care about my fellow countrymen and to better myself in order to better the area I'm living in.
>>71539927
If communism is superior, why did the soviet union crash, south american communist states crash, the chinese leaving communism more and more in favour of capitalism (and their success being directly linked to capitalism) and why is north korea being a shithole?
Before you say "b-but that is not true communism", when will we see true communism? Why have all communist states failed? What makes it so impossible for communism to succeed, and, given that it obviously is impossible for it to succeed long term, why do you cling to it?
>>71539927
burden of proof is with you, my friend
for a case study, lets look at the USA, a multicultural society void of nationalism, save for white patriots. why white? I have yet to meet a black man who is intensely proud of this country, mind you i grew up in a ghetto as fuck neighborhood
>racial tensions have escalated and show no no signs of getting better
>desegregation is promoted, people naturally segregate themselves.
>there is a prevailing narrative of self hate and guilt destroying country wide morale
>muh reparations being used to justify crime
Multiculturalism is not sustainable, nationalism is
>>71547697
/THREAD
social cohesion is all that matters, globalist want to destroy this.
>>71542793
>source?
>I'm my own source just trust me
i don't think you get how this works kiddo
