How is he going to get anything past Congress? Even if it's controlled by Republicans? I had the same question about Bernie but he is finished according to you guys.
This seriously deserve a discussion.
Executive orders, many presidents used them.
>>71537751
EO seems to work for obammy
>>71537751
Naming and shaming. If one of his policies hits a roadblock in negotiations, I see him holding a press conference and calling out the individual congressmen who aren't playing ball. That should ruffle some feathers and break up typical hardline party politics.
>>71537851
>>71537871
Is there no limit to them?
>>71537751
Itll be tough for anyone, I believe he would have a decent chance though. He would call out the leaders and put them on the spot for being dicks. Best obama did was hint at the point congress doesn't cooperate.
Presidents are weak when it comes to domestic affairs and strong when it is foreign affairs. Trump can deny Eurocuckistans hope that we will accept all the immigrants they refuse to deny. At home, every single option for president is cucked by our Do Nothing congress until we vote them all out for people who do their jobs.
Source: con law
First the Executive Branch, then the Judicial Branch, then the fucking cucked Legislative Branch
>>71537751
If you think Trump gives a shit about Congress, you're an idiot.
>>71538122
They could impeach him, but that's hard.
Honestly his best bet is foreign affairs shit, but even then, he has to pass it through the house. For example, look at the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty of 1996. The Republicans blocked the shit out of it, so it was never ratified, partially/entirely to spite Clinton (Bush Sr. had been working towards the same treaty, and had support for it at the time, which was only 5 years previous)
So you see what happens when he talks about Colorado. Cruz gets shlonged. He will trash talk and tweet about bad senators then we will make memes of people having sex with thier wives. Jerkoff on print outs of thier children etc.
It'll be like lobbying congress but cum tributes.
Trump said he wants to work with congress, I think he could do it.
Building the wall is easier than a "simple flat tax and abolishing the IRS"
>>71537751
Donald Trump would call them out for their bullshit and have public approval on his side. Basically what he's been doing this whole election cycle. This is by far his most appealing quality and he is one hell of a negotiator. Now what is really worth a disscussion is why in the fuck anybody thought it was a good idea for congress to determine its own pay. They're quite allright with doing nothing because they're getting payed big bucks to do so. Cut their pay and we will see how quick they get back to worrk.
>>71538122
yes, Obama's immigration EOs are being challenged in the supreme court right now. If Sculia didnt croak, SCOTUS probably would have set a pretty important precedent curbing executive powers
considering congress has voted on walls befpre it should be easy
>>71538122
Executive orders have the force of law but they are actions within the framework of existing laws, that is, the prerogatives of the executive branch. Generally speaking, of course, whatever Trump does with his executive orders, if it's in line with all the promises he's made during his election campaign, chances are the Congress has no standing in any court to stop him because he's using powers Congress has already given to the presidency. Basically, Trump can declare anything he wants as a state of emergency and rule as a dictator, there's really nothing anyone can do to prevent that except to vote for some other candidate who would then be the dictator.
>>71537751
Because unlike rato and hillary, he is capable of making substantive compromises.
>>71537871
Actually, not really. If you look at all of his gun control measures, he talked a big game, talked more big game, then wrote EOs that basically amounted to "we're going to enforce existing law, but we're going to make it sound edgy."
>>71538122
Yes, the POTUS is not allowed to make any new rules not backed by existing laws passed by Congress. If he does, it will get shot down in court should it be challenged.
Also to add King negro Obama is the only one who could get away with such unconstitutional acts because well... hes black. Anybody who tries to oppose him is seen as a racist. It wouldn't be a good idea for Trump to start dishing out EO because his public approval rating would plummet. It woud just further fuel the accusation that Trump is "fascist" and "literally hitler"
Bonus question: What's the odds of him getting replaced by idk Paul Ryan? For the Republican Nomination.
>>71539509
Suicide/10
>>71537751
I don't know how Trump will work with Congress. I know that he is fundamentally going to have to do something that threatens to get a lot of them voted out of office should they not at least be willing to negotiate.
>>71537751
He is a great uniter. He will bring people together and make great deals.
Also, he will use executive orders if Congress refuses.
>>71539509
I want all of those donuts, NOW!
>>71537751
Congress itself is upset about the take it or leave it BS as run by King Obama.
The problem is that we are fucked. There are zero good solutions, and there is no money beyond deficit spending. Meanwhile the global economy is teetering on the edge of a great recession, and monetary policy is nearly at its end beyond helicopter money, and that is not politically viable (if even useful)
There is no political will to do what Trump is proposing, There is no money to do what Bernie is proposing, and Hillary is just more of the same shit that got us into this mess.
Really all Obama wants to do is leave office before this teetering mess he helped assemble tumbles down so somebody else can be blamed. ( *cough* Obamacare *cough*)
That was what the meeting he had with the Fed the other day was about.
>>71538122
Damn I haven't had a reuben in ages
>>71539089
>Basically, Trump can declare anything he wants as a state of emergency and rule as a dictator, there's really nothing anyone can do to prevent that except to vote for some other candidate who would then be the dictator.
Nope. Congress can impeach the president if they act like a dictator.
>>71539671
Spot on. Enjoy this circus of an election, because there is not much else to do.
>>71539671
Congress is surely a corrupted institution but Trump is going to have a better time working with them then King Nigger Obama. It is republican controlled after all which is Trump controlled atm
>>71539671
>Meanwhile the global economy is teetering on the edge of a great recession,
so much doom and gloom. The US economy is actually doing pretty well all things considered. The sky is not falling, despite all you have heard from the media and politicians.
He knows how to negotiate and make dills.
>>71540090
Only because the Fed is making it look that way
>>71540090
Ummhmm, because we're going to pay all of that debt back and we're going to manage the unfunded liabilities that the government has that it does not count against the national debt.
Riiiight.
His ideas are not that nuts, they've been done by Presidents in the past, hell the Wall is already been approved, they just need to get the money for it
You want to talk about something that could never get past Congress, look at Bernie's plan to take away all American's private insurance and replace it with Medicare, riots would start in the streets
>>71539509
>bacon donuts
America is truly Frankenstein's monster of the food world.
>>71538965
So Scalias death is good.
Because if Congress doesn't let a new one get appointed until Trump takes office, Trump gets to stack the court with Trump loyalists who will enable him.
>>71538718
This basically. Trump has an army of internet supporters who are willing to ruin the lives of people who oppose him, and who have no actual connections to Trump.
Not to mention that his ideas are generally pretty moderate, and a lot of them would get support from both parties.
>>71540346
Fuck dude, while I want the government out of it all together, Medicare would be better than Obamacare.
>>71539509
is that a spinach donut on the top left?...
>>71540370
Name one food that doesn't taste better when you add bacon.
Pro tip: You can't!
>>71540370
They're actually really good. Sweet and savory is a nice combination.
Why not get an AG that will prosecute any corrupt politicians? They're all dirty that's why people haven't brought up hillary's corruption because it's mutually assured destruction.
>>71540528
>>71540559
The only place bacon has is next to my eggs and maybe a sandvich.
But I refuse to let it anywhere near a sugary treat.
>>71540263
its not like we are required to be debt free tomorrow or any time for that matter. US bond rates are still hugging all time lows. So long as the US can keep borrowing cheap, the deficit is not such a big bogeyman. A healthy government actually runs a small deficit, it is good for the economy as it increases money supply. That said, we are running a deficit that is a lot more than healthy and sustainable long term. Just not such a huge issue as you prolly think.
>>71537751
The President doesnt write bills. The House of Representatives writes bills. The Senate tweaks n passes bills. The President approves and signs bills into law, or disapproves and vetoes.
>>71540839
>>71540263
William Vickrey, awarded the 1996 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, commented:
Deficits are considered to represent sinful profligate spending at the expense of future generations who will be left with a smaller endowment of invested capital.
This fallacy seems to stem from a false analogy to borrowing by individuals. Current reality is almost the exact opposite. Deficits add to the net disposable income of individuals, to the extent that government disbursements that constitute income to recipients exceed that abstracted from disposable income in taxes, fees, and other charges. This added purchasing power, when spent, provides markets for private production, inducing producers to invest in additional plant capacity, which will form part of the real heritage left to the future. This is in addition to whatever public investment takes place in infrastructure, education, research, and the like. Larger deficits, sufficient to recycle savings out of a growing gross domestic product (GDP) in excess of what can be recycled by profit-seeking private investment, are not an economic sin but an economic necessity. Deficits in excess of a gap growing as a result of the maximum feasible growth in real output might indeed cause problems, but we are nowhere near that level.
Even the analogy itself is faulty. If General Motors, AT&T, and individual households had been required to balance their budgets in the manner being applied to the Federal government, there would be no corporate bonds, no mortgages, no bank loans, and many fewer automobiles, telephones, and houses.
—15 Fatal Fallacies of Financial Fundamentalism
Aren't EOs just essentially "Order on how to do a law"? It doesn't make a law itself.
Hell, building a wall would maybe need a law first.
>>71540528
those shakes at dennys
>>71540455
You know that medicare is government controlled, dont you?
I guess not.
>ITT complete and utter morons who have no idea how government works
>>71538107
This.
For nine months we've had to listen to the media and other candidates bitch and moan about how Trump "can't bully his way into office".
He proved them wrong, and in another nine months he'll be proving the media that he can bully Congress into doing its fucking job.
Trump's administration will be a non-stop wave of public shaming and bullying in beautifully ironic turnabout of the shit we've seen from the left and social justice crowd the last decade or so.
>>71540699
Its mostly because politicians write the laws they would be prosecuted with.
Congress writes the laws that influence corporate behavior. They can also invest money in the stock market. Congress men and women make a killing in the market (duh) for this reason. Several years back it was going to be made illegal to trade on the insider information available to congress. That law was not passed (duh again).
Even though everybody knows Hillary gives $200k speeches for donations to the Clinton foundation. It is just a completely legal and public slush fund for them.
My point is that politicians don't need to break the law to benefit greatly from their office. Why? They write the fucking laws!
This is why Trump is so great. He already has his fortune. All the guy wants to do is the very best job for you and me that he can.
>>71540839
The Fed is not the sole arbiter of interest rates. They can be bid up in the markets too. It has already happened in Junk Bonds. It will start happening with other bonds as well. Eventually, it will hit USTs. You can't run ZIRP forever, because young kids start getting pissed off when grandma and grandpa can only afford to eat Alpo Souffle due to the low interest rates fucking the fixed income. Continue to ignore reality if you wish. There will be consequences for that.
>>71541096
Why do you think I said "while I want the government out of it all together," jackass? It was a pretty fucking obvious acknowledgment that Medicare is government run. All that I was saying is that Medicare is better than Obamacare. Two shitty government programs, but one is like an unflushed toilet, whereas the other is like a street in India.
>>71541474
>The Fed is not the sole arbiter of interest rates.
The Fed has little to no influence on bond interest rates, actually. That is all determined by the market. So long as people wish to buy the bonds, the interest rates will remain low. Apparently, the free hand of the market still sees US government debt as one of the safest investments in the world, hence the low interest rates.
>>71537751
If Trump accomplishes absolutely nothing, that will be a huge improvement to what Cruz or Hillary will do.
You people just don't seem to get it... Government inefficiency is a feature, not a bug. Our system is designed SPECIFICALLY to stall government action. That is how you protect freedom.
>>71541268
>public shaming
Is it really bullying if it's making the democratic process more democratic? Americans need to know about what's going on in Congress
>>71541771
No, moron, it was because of QE + ZIRP. Now, it's just ZIRP. QE went away, and the interest rates in junk bonds went up within a matter of months. Now the only reason that USTs don't have higher yields is because there is a Fed created shortage, courtesy of QE placing a fuckload of them on the Fed's balance sheet, where banks can't use them for high quality collateral in their rehypothecation schemes without massive reverse repos from the Fed. There is an artificially created shortage in the shadow banking channels. That's it, and that won't last forever.
>>71542120
you are confusing sovereign bonds with corporate bonds, buddy. Whos the moron?
>>71542236
I'm not confusing shit. A sell off in investment grade credit will hit USTs, because people will be forced to sell anything they can to cover their losses. There is far too much leverage in the system.
>>71537751
>Years of 0bama going around congress.
It's already happened, why do you think it won't again?
>>71537751
When they'll actually look at his proposals they'll let them pass.
They are actually quite reasonable
>>71537751
If he truly is for real, then he won't care and call out anyone on their inept corrupt bullshit.
>>71538887
Funny enough one of the last amendments added to the Constitution was that congressmen couldn't approve of pay increases until after the next election (thus having the next congress determine the pay).
Only problem is that 80% of congress gets re-elected every year including all the fucking dinosaurs that have been there for 20+ years, making the law pretty much favorable to incumbents.
>>71537751
They'll probably curtail him until their elections come up and Trump supporters vote out all the establishment Republicans for congressmen that are friendly towards Trump.
Trump doesn't even need congress for the wall, legislation for a wall passed into law years ago. Even if it hadn't, it's the President's job to defend the borders.
>>71543207
>building a huge wall
>reasonable
>>71544711
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/content/algeria-build-wall-along-its-border-libya
537751
The true revolutionary leader we need won't give a crap. He will just Hitler the system up. As long as he keeps being sensible and logical, all should flow well.
Hopefully he uses the expanded executive powers to reverse the last 16 years of kikery. The gop will kneel, ryans approval rating is already tanking. Who knows how strong demos will be after this. Globalist d&c in both parties.
>>71537751
Its a mystery.
>>71544711
Motherfucker he already laid on the plan. It's goi g to cost around 10 billion, which is fucking nothing when you think of the benefits. Will be paid by better trade deals with spics. Corrupt as fuck mexican gov btfo.
>>71537751
He puts a label on every congressmen of who is bought and paid for. New blood gets elected in. Making America Great Again!
>>71538122
Not anymore, thanks Obama
>>71539089
>Executive orders have the force of law but they are actions within the framework of existing laws,
good thing the wall is already legal and just needs to be funded and organized
We're just plain going to have to run for congress. Shit public = shit politicians. Red pilled public? That's what we need. Start in solid red districts. A military background can't hurt.
>>71545276
OP didn't read Art of the Deal, believe me!
>>71538122
An executive order was originally meant to be used as an urgent call to action by the POTUS himself, to be carried out thru means that are within the powers granted to him.
Meaning, Trump can start enforcing immigration regulations by executive order and it will be completely constitutional. He cannot, however, change anything about the laws themselves via EO
>>71537751
No matter what, he must execute this plan.
>>71546416
Degenerate.
>>71539842
>>71539842
The process takes a long ass time though. Its a waste in the eyes of congress.
>>71538107
>Naming and shaming
exactly, my view too. no wonder they are all shitting their panties
>my fellow americans, these are teh cunts that are blocking my sensible bill. a,b,c,d,e. they are incompentent, thaty are evil, they hate america, if I was you I would recall them atonce
>>71538694
bush was as much of an evil cunt as clinton
>>71539452
trump campaign intern her, thanks for you're valuable insight, you are making america grat again
>>71539671
the republicans had their files leaked to the clintons, almost all of them are now blackmailable, which is how the omnibus bill got passed in 24 hrs with no opposition
check out filegate
90% of republicans will like him shortly into his presidency. Republicans are good at voting for things that aren't presidents. Trump will endorse and fund all of the senators and candidates that will work with him, whether republican, democrat, or independent, and thoroughly banter every one that rejects him on Twitter. He'll take the senate away from the GOP and give it to himself.
>>71537851
He's said that he won't use executive orders, they aren't permanent and the next president can eliminate them.
>>71540090
ye, nice try shill
>>71540528
bacon, checkmate
>>71540839
>So long as
yeeaaaah, about that
>>71540950
sounds like grade C bullshit from a kike or shabbos goy
>>71541435
>It is just a completely legal
there is a difference between legal and lawful, that is why we have two different words
if you jewgle search, you could probably find our what it is
>>71541474
>You can't run ZIRP forever
tell japan
>>71541845
yet there are many things that need reversing, gay rights, marriage, racist minority quotas, importation of shitskins with the intent to make us a vanishing minority in our own countries
right of wymyn to murder their children
>>71542447
>investment grade credit
tripl A ya?
>>71545276
the chapter on football was boring, but otherwise pretty gud
>>71546354
state of emergency was declared in 1933, since then pres has full dictatorial powers
>>71548891
he can still do this even if he loses/gets cheated
kekpower incoming
>>71537751
>implying god emperor has to ask anyones permission
>>71549382
>He's said that he won't use executive orders
not sure he worded it like that, I think it was more like "I make deals, I'm good at making deals, I'll get the sides together and hash out a deal. Omummer doing everything by executive orders is wrong, he only does that because he can't get congress together to make a deal"
or something like that, without explicitly stating he will do NO executive orders
