Honestly beginning to think the wrong side won.
Western Europeans and Anglos around the world are genetically cucks, this would have happened either way.
You americans are fucking retards, your banks propped hitler up and gave him the money to steam roll west. He was only meant to buy time because the commies were invading.
We didn't even give a shit until he attacked uk. It's all your faults.
The Eternal Anglo should sacrifice itself for the rest of the white race.
If Hitler won we'd be colonizing Mars right about now.
>>71526053
>anglos
>cucks
Didn't stop Aryans from getting their shit kicked in.
Which countries are letting in immigrants again? Oh that's right, aryan countries. They do it to satisfy their wives and boost the population because, typical to aryan countries, they have issues with impotence and virility.
>>71526205
Correct.
>>71526205
>Mars
No, but the Moon.
>>71526205
And croatia would be in italian territory, as it should be.
>>71525893
>beggining to think the wrong side won
>beginning
Newfag detected
>>71526361
Naw, did you see what German engineers thought up in the war? If the war lasted for another 10 years I'm pretty sure they would have created a genetic super solider combined with flying cars and exo-skeletons.
>>71526205
>tfw you will never anschluss Mars for more Lebensraum for your aryan kinder.
>>71526395
As far as I know, Hitler supported NDH.
And if the Axis won the war after Italy's betrayal you'd be pretty much non-existent now, split between Germany and NDH.
I'm just conflicted about what to believe. A lot of the holocaust revisionist stuff seems somewhat reasonable, deaths due to typhus, reports from survivors that make no sense, how the ovens weren't even close to big enough to cremate millions.
I definitely don't see myself as a stormfag but after watching TGSNT you can totally see their reasoning at the time.
Gotta give an credit for killing all those commies tho. Europeans were the real losers of ww2
>1917
Yeah, the Central Powers should've won WWI so that Hitler never came to power indeed.
Just breaks my heart that so many young Americans died so that their granddaughters could be taught to Fuck blacks and act like animals because of commie propaganda from our Jew media.
>>71526550
At last you truly see.
In all seriousness though, the nazis expansionist ideas and their blatant persecution based upon race is questionable. Not entirely damnable but questionable.
A more interesting question is would you be willing to put up with those two things if it was in your interest, if you were a German in Germany the late 1930s, how could you not have supported him? He basically fixed the country (compared to what it was) for you by force. He was honest, he never hid his persecution of Jews, of the communists, of the nations that he saw as being traitors and enemies of Germany. He hardly kept any of his beliefs and ambitions a secret.
What he offered was a tempting thing, a revolution in politics, a revolution of honesty and unity between the state and the people, but it came with a grim price; responsibility. The Germans knew of the evils they supported, they saw it as a small price to pay to be a part of the Third Reich in all its splendor. You can't say that the society Hitler made wasn't picturesque almost 100% of the time. Constantly awe-inspiring and undeniably more powerful than their competitors pound for pound.
No other culture on earth has ever seen such efficiency. Is the price of harsh persecution worth it if it works?
>>71525893
I like to think Hitler found some consolation in the fact that the Communists fell to pieces.
>>71525893
at least if the axis had won then the shit happening is europe, well, wouldn't be happening.
>>71525893
Obviously anon, England/America should have never gotten involved in Franco/Prussian wars
France was obviously the shitty country that needed to lose.
>>71526257
shit kicked in by anglos? literaly half the world went down on us. you nearly fucked up D-Day too. you got lucky and had russians helping on the other fronts.
>>71526145
It doesn't make any sense to say the banks supported Hitler. Germany pulled out of the global banking system.
>>71528647
This. The banks were basically at war with Hitler.
>>71528712
Hence Jews
>>71525893
>>71526541
>As far as I know, Hitler supported NDH.
You know wrong.
>>71528712
>>71528647
To be more precise, wealthy US businessmen and bankers provided capital in the form of fuel and raw materials shipped to Germany from proxy countries (Brazil, Switzerland, etc.). Keep in mind that Germany desperately needed oil and material, its only real exports being manufactured goods and their new shitty Reichsmark. Prior to the war, Hjalmar Schacht organized trade deals with countries that existed outside the dominant European banking clique. Nazi Germany did still rely very much on banks and foreign investors; in effect, Hitler was trying to establish his own banking circle to compete with the "old money" that was dominating European politics.
>>71528824
Why are people so retarded that they can't see that international bankers are just a cabal of greedy Jews?
I mean it's so fucking obvious. You can look up pretty much anything about the Jews and find them to be that way inclined. Then you do more research and oh look at that there's fucking tons of Jews there running these banks, media outlets and political establishments with an unimaginable amount of money and power backing them.
It's not a fucking secret. Jews in this position are criminal scum, intentionally causing banking crises to line their own pockets and manipulating media and politics.
They better cut that shit out.
>>71525893
>mfw globalists and egalitarians are the new lame, out of touch with reality old guard
>mfw nationalists, fash kids and publicly humiliating communists are cool among the youth
It's happening bros. We achieved with epin menes something papa Adolf couldn't with his legion of panzers.
>>71525893
>mfw all Hitler had to do was not fucking invade shit and just rebuild Germany
>Hitler was liked the world over before he started invading people
>mfw we could have had a British-German-American international alliance and not be cucks
instead in getting greedy he killed both the British, and the German hopes of power, made it so that white people will forever be known as evil and probably killed off as our numbers dwindle by the minorities that live on a diet of "evil whitey". Every political action undertaken by western countries has to be morally correct, even as it kills more people, for the fear of being called Nazis and made way for Soviet communism to bleed into the west weakening our traditions and martial prowess as we grow fat and complacent
>unless something changes make no mistake we are witnessing the start of the twilight for the white people of planet earth
>>71525893
>Honestly beginning to think the wrong side won.
a lot of ww2 vets believe so. the propaganda they have shown us over the years has been to demonize the nazis and all germans of that era. I remember in school during history class if you spoke about the germans in any way during this time period as being even remotely human, you were ostracized and called a racist jew hating fag. When I first came to this site I thought you were all mad, but then I remembered that no one is wrong in history. There are only winners....
I would really like to talk to my fellow americans about this, but I am honestly to scared, hell I am a bit scared from what I know
>years of propaganda doesn't go away in one night
Maybe, I'll tell my german Opa that he wasn't wrong to follow the nazi movement
Right side won, fucking edgy nazi scum
Let's see...
On the one side we have retarded Germans that have inferiority complex who represent Jewish Civilisation.
On the second side we have lefties cucks who do not have cojones to help her ally.
They represent jewish civilisation but sometimes even latin one. Aslo, regular Jews too.
On the third side we have literally judeobolshevism. Guess what civilisation they are...
So yeah. There were not a good ending in the story, we just had the neutralish. War against Germany in 1935 was the only solution but France was a cuck.
>>71526428
>People now seeing the abyss of their future is the new way to tell if their new....
>>71529579
Seriously though. When the lefties starting saying every one was a Nazi they trivialized the word to the point where it's almost okay to be a Nazi since they pissed everyone off so much
>>71530053
Bolshevik commies were the real enemy of ww2 you slavshit retard
>>71529237
If this is the case than why did allied forces mercilessly bomb supply lines?
>>71525893
>>71525893
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>>71529928
Based Patton.
Eisenhower hated him because of his aggressive tendencies and no bullshit attitude. Soldiers loved him because he did what was right, although some of his decisions were questionable. By the time he realized what had happened it was too late.
God damn I would have loved to see him as a commander in the Korean War. The Chinks wouldn't know what happened to them.
>>71529735
>>mfw all Hitler had to do was not fucking invade shit and just rebuild Germany
Nazi Germany's growth rate was unsustainable. They were actually treading closer and closer to economic collapse as the years went on. All it would've taken was for the Soviet Union to stop sending massive shipments of fuel and raw materials and Germany would've been fucked.
In that light, when Hitler feared that communist incursion into Europe was inevitable, he decided that acting first was his only option, seizing what resources he could before the Soviets could mobilize. This is why the Nazis were desperately trying to seize what oil fields they could when the war started. By the time they'd pushed toward Moscow, they were already running very low on fuel reserves.
>>71525893
..
>>71530301
I think Patton was setting on to retire from the military by the end of the war. He wanted to go into politics because of all the backroom bullshit he had to deal with.
Which probably got him killed.
>>71530219
>If this is the case than why did allied forces mercilessly bomb supply lines?
Things changed once the war started. Allied forces were also separate entities from wealthy investors like Standard Oil, which simply aimed to make a profit off the war. They conducted business and shipped oil in secret.
>>71530301
RIP patton, you were too good for this world
>>71530349
>Nazi Germany's growth rate was unsustainable.
how so
I wish I could have talked to my grandpa about the war before he died
Imagine if you could return all these millions of dead soldiers from both WW1 and WW2 to take a look at today's Europe and ask them for who would they fight if they were given second chance?
So many people thought they were fighting for the freedom and democracy in Europe, just to be let ruled by jews and and their ass lickers...
>>71530383
for a second there I thought that these images for fake because the second guy on the bottom looked familiar, but holy shit?! I've seen this photos in my textbooks in highschool! what version of photoshop did they have back then?
The right side won, there is nothing of value in war except who wins. And Hitler was a shit strategist (ie focusing on europe instead of taking the oil-rich middle east first). Also the nips were shit.
>>71529347
Because banks provide capital for businesses and for individual people (in the form of credit cards). Pulling away from that is like pulling a meth addict off meth.
>>71530849
>>71530664
Hitler never really fixed the German economy, he had it based on resources gained through expansion and unsustainable military expansion. If they won their economy would have crashed a few years later.
It would have been better if there was no WW1 to weaken the European empires, the west would be far more dominant now without it.
>>71530835
American soldiers would still fight for the US. Even before my grandpa died, he lamented how "extremist" the GOP had become and ended his NRA membership (since he was a pro gun control fudd). It's exactly this line of thought that drives people to vote for Dubya or Hilary.
>>71528647
t. I watched The Greatest Meme Never Told now I'm an expert on WW2
>>71530835
>>71531154
To make it even more clearer, all the Americans that fought in ww2 also voted in favor of desegregation and civil rights in the 1950s and 60s. Same for Britain and France.
>>71531142
saved
>be me
>be 8
>be really into ww2 history
>every Saturday go to McDonald's with my dad before we go to his work
>group of old men there every Saturday
>don't buy food, bring danishes just drink McDonald's coffee and talk
>tfw we sit in table next to them one day and overhear convos
>tfw they are all ww2 gets
>tfw they were all at dday
>talk about what a mess amphibious landing was, all the blood on the beach
>tfw there were less and less over the years as they all died off
>tfw when they were probably all dead by 2004 and didn't have to see what a mess this shithole has turned into and see that their sacrifice was for naught
Makes me sad to this day and I'm 24
>>71530664
Hitler guaranteed a high quality of life for all Germans: housing, jobs, food, and luxuries. Even until the end he had his factories pumping out refrigerators for civilian use.
Meanwhile, the Volkish policies were working - the population was growing. Hitler too was flouting the Versailles Treaty, pumping resources into rebuilding the German military. All of this required large amounts of fuel and raw materials, stuff that Germany did not have in large quantities. Because Germany was blocked from the Western trading cliques, it received these goods instead from the Soviets and South America. US companies also traded with the Nazis by routing supplies through South America and Switzerland.
The only thing Germany had to export were high quality manufactured goods and the Reichsmark. The latter was largely considered worthless outside the Axis sphere of influence, a fact that Hitler wanted to change but could not while the Western banking clique dominated the global economy. US, Soviet, and South American investors were largely taking a gamble on Hitler's Germany, waiting to see if their investments would pay off and give them a leg up on their more "established" competitors in the banking sphere.
Germany therefore was building up a large invisible trade deficit, dependent on the continued confidence of foreign investors. The deficit was largely masked by Schacht's trade schemes and the secrecy of US involvement. It was, however, a bubble that was going to eventually pop. Especially with the shadow of the Soviets looming to the east, and the threat of their imminent pull-out from the Nazi economy.
THE WEST LOST THE COLD WAR.
>>71529579
Esti, tell me about esti, why is your population decreasing?
does anyone have a link to a database of all the world war 2 vets and all the medals they received I remember seeing one and I found my grandpa and it was really cool seeing all the medals he earned but my google skill is really shitty today I can't find it again
>>71525893
>you'll never have a skeleton buddy help direct your fire
>>71531464
exactly this.
the decline of the west comes from essentially losing the propaganda war that was the cold war, not from defeating hitler.
>>71528647
This is why the jews (UK and USA are controlled by banking jews) declared war on him.
It's obvious that the USSR was the real enemy of the West. So why go after Hitler? Oh right, the banking jews were angry and saw a chance to get Israel.
It is disgusting to me everyday, hearing about Israel and knowing that state only exists because it was a part of the great jewish WWII scheme... which also destroyed this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpTWKKWQ1o
>>71531464
>>71531732
modern liberalism comes directly from western values, not from some communist conspiracy to destroy the west. The whole concept of open borders is rooted in the post cold war era neoliberalism. The new left is what it is because communism itself was totally discredited in 1991, so they had to opt for the modern concept of "managed economies" and open borders.
Hitler was right.
>>71531392
thanks for explaining. so it wasn't necessarily their economic model that was the problem, but a combination of that + the sanctions and blocks they were facing? or was the economic model shit all together
>>71531755
your "muh ebin nazis killed le banking usury" is a fucking meme fuck off
early nsdap anti usury stance came from gottfried feder but hjalmar schacht was the one who ran the economy he was not anti usury anti international finance its a stormweenie meme
The bank supervisory authority owes its existence to a law which I instigated when I was Minister of Economic Affairs in 1934. National Socialist agitators led by Gottfried Feder had carried on a vicious campaign against private banking and against our entire currency system. Nationalisation of banks, abolition of bondage to interest payments, and introduction of state Giro ‘Feder’ money, these were the high-sounding phrases of a pressure group which aimed at the overthrow of our money and banking system. To keep this nonsense in check the president of the Reichsbank called a bankers’ council which made suggestions for tighter supervision and control over the banks. These suggestions were codified in the law of 1934, which was strengthened in 1957 by increasing the powers of the bank supervisory authority. In the course of several discussions, I succeeded in dissuading Hitler from putting into practice the most foolish and dangerous of the ideas on banking and currency harboured by his party colleagues. – Hjalmar Schacht: The Magic of Money p 49
National Socialist agitation under the leadership of Gottfried Feder was directed in great fury against private banking and against the entire currency system. Nationalisation of the banks, liberation from the bondage of interest, the introduction of a state ‘Feder’ giro money, these were the catch phrases by which an end was to be made to our monetary and banking economy. I had to try to steer Hitler away from these destructive conceptions. – Hjalmar Schacht: The Magic of Money p 154
But the Nazi's did kill an awful lot of innocent people, didn't they?
>>71532087
not more than anyone else really
>>71532087
we did killed quite a bit to. dresden and hiroshima comes to mind. the commies killed way more innocents than any of us though, and we allied with them
>>71531973
You cannot really say because the German economic miracle was largely a result of rearmament. All that unemployment was mostly ended by putting people to work in factories, making war supplies etc. Since rearmament was essentially a bubble that relied on the direct conquest of Hitler's goals in Eastern Europe then it was fucked to begin with. He set up an economy that required him to go and conquer other countries to stay afloat.
>>71532087
Yes, yes they did - mostly civilians too.
>>71532087
The US nuked two Japanese cities
The UK firebombed Dresden - civilian population center.
The USSR killed ~100 million civilians
And these ware just examples ^
You don't really hear about those things and when you do there's no lamentation going on. But always you hear about, almost everyday still MUH 6 TRILLION JEWS MUH LAMPSHADES MUH SHOAH NEVER AGAIN
>>71526145
t. Goldberg
>>71531328
Similar stories for me growing up. Really is sad that there aren't too many WW2 vets left.
>>71532353
Yeah, I was jsut kinda getting a weird vibe from the thread that the Nazis were lovely.
Though I would take Nazis over Soviets or cuck French any day.
>dresden and hiroshima are comparable to nazi war crimes in eastern europe
ok
>>71532501
"History is written by the victors"
>>71530244
i killed you because you tried to make my country an italian colony you fucking faggot
>>71532363
what about all the building projects and that stuff.
>>71532646
Maybe you shouldn't have fucked with East German citizens who got annexed into Poland after the Treaty of Versailles?
I also hate this shit that WW2 German Army = Nazi's. Awful lot of soldiers were just people fighting for their country.
>>71532646
japan did a lot of fucked up stuff too
>>71532716
was meme tier compared to rearmament. it all revolved around rearmament.
>>71530219
>If this is the case than why did allied forces mercilessly bomb supply lines?
jews ran the insurance?
>>71526145
>>71532646
Naziboos are autistic.
They don't even grasp the fact that Nazis used terror bombing first. On the first day of war, they destroyed a Polish town with 0 military value.
Dresden and Hamburg were actually relevant targets.
You can't argue with them, this place serves as their echo-chamber to reinforce their delusions. It's like a cult.
>>71530301
>The Chinks wouldn't know what happened to them.
nuclear warheads. nukes would have hit them
>>71532985
>bomb the ever loving fuck out of warsaw and rotterdam for no reason
>britain starts bombing
>b-but britain-kun why are you bombing us w-we want to ally with you!
>>71531973
Schacht's strategy was to make the best of a bad situation. Which he did. Germany became a release valve for the global economy, an alternative for investors who wanted to sidestep the mainstream banking clique and break into new territory. For a decade Germany was flush with resources for this very reason, because it was so attractive to outside investors. Frankly, without the sanctions, it's unlikely that Germany would have prospered; conventional channels would've placed Germany on the same playing field as everyone else, and at the time Germany had very little to offer in terms of trade. With the sanctions, Germany suddenly became untapped territory, free of competition; Germany represented opportunity.
It's unclear, however, what Schacht expected the Nazis to do with the economy he gifted them. He was aware that he was only crafting a bubble. He surely was expecting the Nazis to leverage their newfound prosperity into an enduring economic future for Germany. But with the rise of the Soviets, that future was thrown into serious question. Perhaps Schacht expected Nazi Germany to form closer diplomatic ties with its neighbors, and eventually come to rely on them instead of going solo. He was ardently against excessive military spending, which he felt drove up inflation (due to the heavy usage of valuable materials) and would only push Germany to bankruptcy more quickly. This pissed of Goring, who eventually asked him to resign (though Schacht wanted to resign at this point anyway).
So yes and no. The sanctions helped and the economic model was good, but the Germans had to deal with a complex political problem - either come to rely on other countries that were part of the banking clique the Germans despised, or face the Soviets - and probably the world - on their own.
If Schacht had his way, they would've done the former. And maybe it would've worked out. Who knows?
>>71533457
Not to mention they intentionally targeted British monuments during Blitz.
>>71532676
Pay debnts
>>71529928
I work at a pizza place atm and one of the assistant managers believes that zionist jews run the banks and world but he has a hard time believing me when i tell him the wrong side won and that the nazi's were right.
>>71533467
Schacht was a good banker that made the best out of his situation. Really annoys me when Stormfags attribute the Nazi economy to Gottfried Feder's anti international finance anti usury ideas when really he had no say in the economy when Nazis were actually in power.
The only tangible thing that came out of WWII was a vastly expanded Soviet Union and the state of Israel
The allies literally fought for bolshevik jews.
>>71533840
make me
If there's one thing that will never, ever, grow old, it's seeing all these stormweenies get triggered by the fact that Hitler lost. Lost. Absolutely BTFO.
They would rather unironically live in a police state where civil rights are repressed, personal freedoms are limited, and ethnic minorities are persecuted, especially Jews just because they're Jews. A bit like somewhere like, oh, I don't know, Turkey or Saudi Arabia maybe?
>>71534037
No that's what Hitler fought for. If he didn't spend his time being an expansionist autist, toppling neutral European countries then he wouldn't have plunged Europe into an internal war that allowed the outside threat to capitalise. If Hitler stopped his expansion at the Sudetenland like he promised he would then Europe would probably still be perfect. If he didn't do such a good job of pissing everyone off around him then he could have formed an anti-Communist alliance with Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe and probably could have got the western powers involved too if the Soviets ever made a real move into Europe and Communism would be destroyed.
>>71534352
>Lives in UK
>Complaining about police state
Bin that spoon
Don't say anything anywhere because there's eyes and ears everywhere
Ethnic majority is persecuted
>>71534509
Yeah, it's not as if the West engaged in a 50 year long campaign against Communism after the war, is it?
Oh.
>>71534580
>Waaah the British government doesn't allow racists like me to spread hatred and incite violence it's not fair I feel oppressed!
>>71534037
Israel came about because of the death of the British Empire. Hitler hastened this process. Israel continued to be a country through the Cold War and today because of the spread of communism in eastern europe and the middle east. This happened because Hitler flubbed the invasion of the USSR.
>>71534708
Good argument
>>71534879
So good that you don't have a valid riposte.
>>71525893
I can't stand to think about how the world would look like if Hitler won.
How a western nazi world would react to Hitler's death in the 70s-80s.
How the middle east would look like without the jews in Israel.
How far our technology would have reached.
Etc etc etc..
Please let us enter other dimension now!!
>>71534509
This probably would've been the best scenario. If Hitler had coasted off Nazi prosperity and transitioned into the formation of a European alliance - why, a European Union, even - they could all have formed a bulwark against the Soviets and prevented them from ever expanding. But hindsight is 20/20, and Nazi dogma was a major inhibitor to the idea of a European Union. The idea of "Greater Germany" was far more alluring than the idea of assuming a leadership position at the head of a European coalition - a role that Germany now fills, ironically enough.
>>71530053
>Finnish rape baby
>>71525893
Italy should have gone to war with Hitler over Austria, and called in the west to defeat the Germans, thus creating a front to invade the Soviet Union from.
No commies, no hate of nationalism, and fascism is accepted.
>>71532501
>>71525893
In WW1? Definitely.
>>71535428
Why?
>>71534708
>>Waaah the British government doesn't allow racists like me to spread hatred and incite violence it's not fair I feel oppressed!
But it does, they call them "Muslims".
>>71534708
>>Waaah the British government doesn't allow racists like me to spread hatred and incite violence it's not fair I feel oppressed!
>>They would rather unironically live in a police state where civil rights are repressed, personal freedoms are limited
>implying hate speech isn't free speech
>implying free speech isn't a civil right and a personal freedom
Do you not see the irony in your own posts? Everything the Allies fought for has been given up and trodden on. Do you really think that the UK, and Europe at large, is a free and open society?
>>71532676
now you are broke fucks who can't even get more than 100€ out of their ATM
congratulation
>>71526205
Oh, rly? The good Führer was very sick towards the end, supposedly Parkinson, and his doctors medications hadn't helped either. Several of his own, trusted officers opposed him or tried to assassinate him. The notion of honor and service to the fatherland keeping them. The point is: Hitler has not won because he made several decisions like not to invade the UK or attack the Russ that had no basis in strategy. So it is vain to discuss the big IF, because he hasn't lost by fate or chance, but by his own design.
>>71535538
killed the Germans
>>71531268
>voted in favor of desegregation
cool history, famalam
>>71532676
you wish you had Italian money now, and that's saying something
>>71535791
So you conveniently forget about Abu Hamza being deported? I guess that doesn't suit your paranoid agenda.
>>71528830
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it...
>>71532985
>Dresden
>Relative target
how
>>71536156
sea lion was never going to work and the earlier hitler attacked the ussr the better since the soviets were still mobilising, this is why barbarossa had so much success in the first place. if he waited a few more years for a war with the soviets (which was inevitable) then he would have been rolled over.
>>71536686
Was a major crossroads for transportation of German supplies and contributed a lot to the economy.
>>71535950
You don't need free speech, you don't deserve it
government can shut you down if they please, and there's nothing you can do about it
>>71531148
Can you prove this.
>>71531148
except Germany was kicking ass before military expansion. Germany issued their own currency, everyone was buying and selling. Faith in the German economy was restored. Then they decided to kick some ass
>>71525893
The right side won, but then you started to degenerate in record time.
WII America was greate.
>>71532042
The Magic of money is a great read. However Schacht glosses over some of his more important policies.
While private banks, loans, and interest were all fine and good according to Schacht, the nature of the German money was fundamentally changed by his works.
The labor backed treasury notes and interest free generation of money in the first place was the prime driver of the German economy.
The German treasury could heat up a cooling economy by issuing labor treasury certificates (redeemable in marks and vise versa like gold used to be in the US) to pay for public works like the autobahn for example. This not only injected the economy with money (different from currency) but also created employment opportunities. The treasury could also cool overheated economies by buying back treasury certificates with marks and inflating the currency a little. In essence, the creation of money was inherently non-inflationary thanks to Schacht (unlike modern currencies that require debt to be generated) and backed by the strength of physically constructed infrastructure and the ability to extract value from the economy itself in the form of money or currency (GDP).
>>71537560
>homogen Anglo society is great
>beginning
Took you long enough. Welcome to the sad sack of shit that is reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY-1Um1Gzzk
>>71536714
The soviets were pretty blitzed because they were not mobilizing, their only reason to do so being japan. and germany was still engaged in combat at other fronts, mediterran and UK. the brits, for example, only barely managed to hold their own in their own airspace in the beginning of the war for britain. their army was comparatively puny and the homeguard was issued spears and muskets. it was desperate, and did only work because the germans didn't try hard enough.
>>71526257
Anglos ruled by germans/normans anyway.
The anglo had nothing to do with that.
>Which countries are letting in immigrants again? Oh that's right, aryan countries.
Anglos and poles(in Germany)
Theres also the nordcucks
>>71536156
>invading Russia was a mistake
Retard identified. The Soviets were still reeling from the Purge when Barbarossa happened. Every day that the war was delayed the bolsheviks grew stronger and the Germans weaker. If Germany didn't strike all of Europe would have been bulldozed by the Soviets in less than a decade.
>>71537161
The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze does a pretty good job.
>>71537722
Nations had been doing this for a long time though in emergency situations when countries needed to increase their economic output. The USA has treasury notes before the civil war. The UK had "Bradbury Pounds" to finance WW1. This is not some ebin secret meme the Nazis discovered to defeat le evil joo bankers once and for all.
>>71538254
This.
Oddly enough, the weather (yeah the weather), was not on Germany's side. Barbarossa could have happened a full year sooner had France not been delayed due to weather.
Barbarossa could have made the Archangel-Astrakhan line (Russia's supply corridor to ports that didn't freeze in the winter) had the autumn rains not come 4 weeks early in '41 and froze.
A less mobilized Russian army with better weather conditions would have really been smashed by the Germans. And it wasn't just the Germans. Italians, Croats, French, Belgians, Norwegians, Danes, Serbs, Romanians, Czechs, Hungarians, all contributed significantly. All volunteers too. It really was a pan-European army against the threat of communism.
>>71525893
By my opinion the ultimate historical lesson of WW2 is: Being nazi has one SERIOUS downside. When you mark other nation as subhumans that should be wiped out or live as slaves, and start to conquer them - Expect them to FUCKING RESIST no matter how tyranical is their goverment, cause they have nothing to lose. (Unless we are talking about cucknations willing to be conquered ofc.)
>>71538220
>it was desperate, and did only work because the germans didn't try hard enough.
Top kek. No, just no. Sea Lion required complete air superiority AND complete naval superiority to work. The Germans could not even get air superiority let alone even BEGIN to tackle the issue of naval superiority, with the Royal Navy being bar none the biggest and most superior navy in the world at the time.
>>71525893
>Honestly beginning to think the wrong side won.
you're white trash. Congratulations.
>>71526361
Haben wir doch schon gemacht, Volksgenosse!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lJAw_BtM2g
>>71525893
Yeah.
1984 would have been way better today.
Move to China if you hate freedom/capitalism.
>>71531529
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/honor/research-a-veteran.html
This might be it bro.
>>71538512
Right. The distinction was that labor backed notes as a partial money base for which the value of the currency is derived is extremely important and also a successful way to create value in an economy beyond issuing debt. It's no secret. But it also isn't done anymore.
Lets say you're being evaluated for a job. Would you rather be evaluaed based on what you promise to do (debt), how much stuff you have (gold or assets), or what you have actually done (Labor or GDP).
A mix right? All can convey various aspects of success.
>>71538254
and look how well it worked out. "Every day that the war was delayed the bolsheviks grew stronger and the Germans weaker." How did the Germans grow weak? they had conquered half of europe and were threatening the UK, having suffered only neglegible losses up to that point whilst continously building more and better weapons. the soviets didn't get started with that until after germany invaded. I'm not saying invading was per se a bad idea, but they should have finished the other fronts before starting another. they could have, in an odd twist, even count on some anti-bolsheviks from countries they just concjuered fighting for them.
>>71538589
I've read that Barbarossa was delayed by up to a year while Germany cleaned up Italian messes in the Balkans but I'm not entirely certain.
>>71527892
Yes, a thousand times yes. No unemployment, no rich Jews destroying my culture for the enrichment of their own. If the "other" must suffer for that paradise, then so be it. They can always leave and go back to their backwards shot holes.
>>71539067
>how is the country under 24/7 day and night bombing and under constant blockade with no oil imports and no domestic production growing weaker?
>>71539126
Yeah, this too. Weather delayed France which delayed Barbarossa. The Balkans compounded the delays.
Had some things gone more cleanly, I truly think the outcome of the war would have been considerably different.
>>71538693
naval superiority is relative when you dont have air superiority. air superiority is defined along the lines of "to be able to (critically) disrupt any enemy air action in a given area." cue the bismarck getting shot in the ass by an ancient biplane, apply this to british ships in conjuncture with the U-boat threat and the brits would have had a harder time as well. fighting over the channel would also mean for both sides to have more difficulties in bringing back their pilots for another round for both sides and not just the germans.
>>71535106
hitler sent jews to pelestine.
>>71539327
timeline. they were getting oil shipped from the sovs because they were still "allied". blockade from what goods? they were still getting steel and stuff from the scandinavians and 24/7 day and night bombing wasnt waaaaaay until after germany attacked the rus.
>>71538988
Brought a tear to my eye.
>>71525893
>the wrong side won
Might equals Right
Cucks BTFO
>>71525893
I think everyone agrees that in retrospect a Central Powers victory would have been a far better outcome. What would happen if Mexico and Japan joined like the krauts were hoping? Perhaps even getting Russia to ally with fellow traditionalists like Bismarck had originally wanted?
>>71540277
>Central Powers victory would have been a far better outcome
I can agree with this.
>>71538027
Did he really say this ?
>>71539795
All of these things were bound to change and High Command knew it. You're disrearding the point that no amount of resources or soldiers could have halted the Soviet invasion that was going to come no matter what.
>>71540277
>look further in thread
>everyone's bitching about the wrong world war
I'm starting to suspect OP was a clever bait.
>Being this delusional
Europe would have been a terror hotbed of partisans constantly fucking with the German occupiers until the breaking point happens with the Germans killing enough people as reprisals to spark mass revolts.
>>71540458
Yes he did, that's one of the few legit goebbels' quotes.
>>71526257
>Which countries are letting in immigrants again?
What was the most popular boys name in London last year?
>>71540523
No one on /pol/ cares about best Reich unfortunately.
>>71540820
Not fair, they call all their sons Muhammad.
It's a Muslim attempt at meme magic.
>>71540465
Of course it would have been possible to halt an invasion. the germans were always on the offense despite being smaller in numbers. in a true defensive battle, the soviets would have had way more difficulties than the germans, had the germans not bled their manpower before on russian soil.
>>71540458
>>71540696
Ah, found my sauce.
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb64.htm
>"Humanity would sink into eternal darkness, it would fall into a dull and primitive state, were the Jews to win this war. They are the incarnation of that destructive force that in these terrible years has guided the enemy war leadership in a fight against all that we see as noble, beautiful, and worth keeping."
>>71541173
As outspoken Propaganda Minister, I fundamentally doubt anything he says. Lying is in his job description.
>>71541173
thanks
>>71541173
>Be Nazis
>Hate jews and they way of thinking, feeling and behavior
>Act exactly the same
>>71541922
Are you implying that you don't hate the parasitic bolshevik behavior of jews or what?
>>71525893
WWI Germany was best Germany, would have greatly preferred that the old Reich still controlled Europe.
