well, /pol/ ?
got me there.
>>71497980
niggers
>>71497980
Arguments provided: 0.
Also, saying that it's free means she is economically illiterate.
Shes a bogan ... stab er
>free
>government healthcare is a human right
>>71497980
>someone said some thing
>>71497980
you expect a woman to give you a realistic answer to anything?
It's not free, and it's not a right
We have free healthcare. Not having to pay for the mri I had last year was nice. And got 3 teeth removed for 123$. Wait times can suck however.
Mother has been waiting over a year for knee surgery. Mixed bag desu.
>>71497980
I love kikes talking down to non-kike white people, and using the faggy, pussy kikebook "occupy demokike" format.
>>71498226
She's a kike, like the rest of them.
>>71497980
>Free
Loudmouth kike princesses talking down to their goy serfs.
Or how about you work for it and prove you're not a lazy unmotivated piece of shit. Get a fucking real job and quit trying to have the government pay for your shit. Earn your place you degenerate faggot at least Americans value that.
>free
>health care is a right
WEW
>>71497980
>free
Free healthcare is great until you die waiting for a life saving operation.
>Free
Good one, you ever been hospitalised?
And it's all shit because all our doctors are stupid shitskins with totally legit degrees from the Unversity of Legit in Uganda.
Most Australians have private healthcare because it's the only way to get decent medical care at all. In America, you get an appointment to see a specialist, you wait maybe a week. In Australia, YOU WAIT A YEAR.
>>71497980
>free health
>basic right
what?
First of all our universal healthcare is pretty shit, huge waiting lists, private hospitals are generally trash etc. we have a few private health care companies you can subscribe to who provide a whole lot of benefit. There's active competition, so while rates do rise occasionally, they always try to win over the customer. This is exactly what trump wants to do.
>>71497980
>60% overweight
yeah the time has come and passed if we were going to do Universal Healthcare, the system would buckle under the weight (pun intended) of all the fat fucks
More kikes talking down to non-kikes and pretending to be white. Does it BLOW YOUR MIND GOYIM??
>>71498339
Holy fuck this bitch is fucking stupid.
>ISIS is the only radical terrorist group
>All radical muslims belong to a militant group and don't hide in western society attempting to overthrow it from within
>>71497980
>basic right
socialists tend to believe everything is a basic right
what would be an advanced right?
>>71498386
this one is literally just rewriting history
>>71498386
Immigrants, not illegal fucking aliens. Fuck Mexico. If your wanting to live here don't be a piece of shit (looking at you turkey). Be worth something to America don't expect a free ride.
>>71498493
>harvard professor doesn't understand the rise of hitler
>>71498310
>i am white
>goldberg
every fucking time
GOYIM!
Someone needs to stop tha nazis.
-occupy demokikes
>>71497980
DESIGNATED SHITTING PANTS
>>71497980
>enslaving doctors
>human right
>>71497980
Nothing is ever free, but the idea that poor people can have their health care paid by other citizens would be more accurate. I had free health care in US up until 21 and the quality of health care was truly the best in the world, and it was still basic compared to premium facilities in the US. The quality of health care in US is the best in the world, but someone has to pay for it.
>>71497980
Its not all free though. I got a $400 ambulance fee the other day
>>71498354
>continuously implying anyone really thinks its free
It's free at the point of receiving it.
>>71498414
Guess what doesn't happen.
>>71498386
this is particularly irritating because so many people actually believe this
>>71498448
You know you are wrong?
You have to be 14.
>>71498177
bingo.
>free
quit replying to buzzwords
>>71498463
Only huge waiting lists for non-emergency issues.
>>71497980
its not free for those who pay taxes... ever hear of the medicare levy?
also wtf chile don't use my fucken country for your bullshit propaganda
>>71498386
>>71498339
>>71498310
>stein
>Goldberg
>Kallok
gee..
how jew can we get in here
>>71498658
It's $60 a year to be an ambulance member. Then they don't charge you.
>>71497980
>Talking about denying people basic human rights
>children literally being raped at Naura, under government watch.
Fnar fnar.
>>71498995
Nauru, rather.
>>71498658
That will teach you for not living in a household with electricity
>>71499024
Thanks Kike fuelled IPA->LNP political party.
>>71497980
Don't Ausfailians also pay like $120 for video games?
>>71497980
nothing is free libtard. real liberty is not having to pick up dumb asses hospital tabs. We already pay shittons of money for welfare. Australia is a fucking dingy desert with 3 cities spawned from criminals. What they do to kangaroos is none of our concern
>>71497980
Must be nice having the US pays for your national defense.
>>71497980
Your make up for it with super expensive shitty Internet!
>>71499268
had to pay 20 bob for a demo once. baka senpai
>>71499268
If you're buying some AAA garbage from EB Games, yes. But only shit games for retards like Fifa, CoD, Madden, GTA, and shit are that expensive.
>>71498386
Yeah fucking immigrants AND white people, not just fucking illegal immigrants sending money to their families.
>>71497980
And when we tell you faggots to jump, you still ask "How high?" Must be humiliating for you.
kikes shitting themselves is a sight to behold.
-occupy goyim
>>71498448
This is pretty true in leaf-town desu. My pepper-peppy had to wait ~1 year in order to see a specialist for his back which he got a surgery for ~1.5 years later.
>>71498493
>Allenstein
Every fucking time. I'm gonna fucking kill myself.
>>71497980
Good luck buying a house.
>>71498510
Free healthcare plus they pay YOU after the surgery
>>71497980
>basic right
lol
>>71497980
Australia is a worthless island that no one would want to attack, so they don't need a military. That allows them to spend their money on other things.
>>71499342
This
>>71497980
>texan
>supporting universal healthcare
I'm disappointed in you anon. You must clearly be of the queer variety, and not the steer variety.
so many butthurt seppos itt
i can have literally ANYTHING wrong with me and not have to pay a single cent to get it fixed. i feel sorry for you lot i really do.
>>71498339
Ok then. Just make sure this person doesn't enter a gun rights argument
>>71500033
I can have literally nothing wrong with me and pay for obese people to get oxygen tanks
Mining is the foundation of Australia's economy, just like oil is to the Saudis or Emirate states. Healthcare costs are a mere drop in the bucket for their government
>Portion taken out of every paycheck
>Free
>>71500022
I'm not sure if you're memeing, but that's Chile.
>>71498794
>>71498866
>>71498745
So how much are you paid per post goy.
>>71498310
The fact that she is from Alabama makes that completely irrelevant
>>71500033
I feel sorry for the other tax paying Australians that have to pay your medical bills
>>71498582
This
The rise of Hitler is actually a very easy to understand
>>71497980
The only healthcare right you have is the right to die.
Everything else you must take with your own hands.
I'm a bit rusty on naval locations but I believe it's because the seventh fleet covers Japan and australia, just like the freeloaders in Europe.
Maybe if people pulled their weight in the world police department we could afford nice things.
>>71498177
>Also, saying that it's free means she is economically illiterate.
When will you fucking disingenuous retards stop it with this meme?
You're acting as if people who call it "free healthcare" don't understand that these services have to be paid for by taxes, which is totally false. You're wilfully misinterpreting what the word "free" means in this context. It's idiotic and a total waste of everyone's time.
>>71497980
>>71498658
thats interesting because my 12km ambo ride was to be charged $1000 au dollars which i got knocked back to $500, so how the fuck do they calculate this shit.
Ohh I hope Trump will win just to see wave of liberal suicides, SJW outcry and jewish tricks triggered by it.
Make America Great Again
>>71501256
I really want to know, they just pull it out of their arse right? and refer to debt colection legally, with full gov backing.
tfw I paid them $1 short after arguing hours with this slag called Vickie Heartly in charge of hospital billing, an ex k-mart "manager".
is this a joke? she was!
>>71497980
Because you don't have a right to survive in my country, unless you're rich and not a failed millionaire.
>>71501232
You're wrong though, these people truly believe it's "free" and just comes out of the heavens.
Just look at bern victims, they have no idea how economics work
>>71497980
Don't berate /pol/ for their small-minded views on the world. In their minds they are infallible gods who never get ill and they see nothing wrong with going bankrupt just because of a disease.
It must be very nice to be so self-centered and narcissistic
>>71501834
>bern victims
>citing the lowest hanging fruit
>>71498622
http://www.snopes.com/liselotte-hubner-donald-trump/
When even the kikes at snopes can't back it up, you know you fucked up.
>>71501834
>they have no idea how economics work
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/japan/gdp-growth
And neither do you Japan.
>>71501834
No, adults do understand how taxes work. Even idiotic adults.
>>71497980
If anything is true in life the cheapest shit is always the highest quality. Do you but the cheapest roughest thinnest toilet paper? No you buy the good stuff so your ass isn't filthy and Chaffed. You wouldn't take chances with your ass why take chances with your health / life?
>>71497980
>Free
really? doctors are just donating their time an resources to help the sick? damn thats pretty cool
>>71501998
>bernie supporters
>adults
kek
the only adults who support him are the jew and the red
>>71501834
the med industry over values itself because it can, it preys on the bank accounts of the sick and wounded because the alternative is, may as well be death. the med industry jews like the jews, think About it, if you could perforn an operation, pretty much with muscle memory, not even have to think, at all, why should it be worth 80k, the only danger is to the patient, and they will have signed a fuck load of disclaimers so that they can never sue if they die, unless hospital equipment is literally sewn back up inside them. hospital is like casino, house always wins.
>>71500033
>its all FREE!!!!
>i don't understand taxes!!!
please kill yourself faggot.
>>71502230
this post is why we need to kill the mentally retarded, marxists and half of all liberals. People actually believe this shit
I'm lazy as shit and work as a janitor for a state office building in the US. Some nights I literally don't work at all, just clock in and surf the Internet for 8 hours.
I get paid holidays, full medical, dental, vision and retirement. If my dumb ass can get benefits anyone can.
>>71500033
but you are paying you're just too stupid to see how
>>71502477
>the mentally retarded, marxists and half of all liberals.
No need to repeat yourself, anon.
say an american surgeon performs the same operation with the same tools as the british surgeon.... durrrr his hand movements were worth twice as much.
that is you.
>healthcare for 25 million people is the same as healthcare for 300 million people
>>>>""""""""""free""""""""""
>>71501232
>she realizes how 'free' healthcare works
>she "doesn't see why it's controversial" and thinks it's her "basic right"
pick one
But we are leading the world
In Healthcare no less, best Healthcare in the world
>>71498386
>jude
>occupy democrats
What did they mean by this?
No seriously what the fuck it's like troubleshoot vegetarians it makes no fucking sense.
>>71502693
only a follower of "republican" jesus would see a dichotomy there
>>71502723
yes but the hacksaws cut the same, and when it comes to the table, all the equipment is for cutting and stiching etc and hasnt changed in years.
ps. laser surgery is its own thing, they dont open your chest with a laser.
>>71502605
yes, because america can only ever have staff and supplies for 25 million people, for some reason
oh wait
>>71502723
lol
yeah, for who?
>>71497980
>Free
>Occupy democrats
WE WILL USE THE POWER OF OUR HALF TRUTHS AND MISINTERPRETATIONS TO RULE THE WORLD!
>>71502933
those who can afford it, which means those who deserve it
>>71497980
>get cancer
>sit on a wait list while a panel of judges decides your fate
>be on the wait list for months or even years
>die of cancer before treatment even starts
>a-at least is it free right?
There's a reason the US has the highest cancer survival rate in the world
>>71498257
>public education is a human right
>>71503183
subjective.
>>71500893
>>71502258
>>71502522
>b-b-but its not free its not!
kek stay mad amerifats
>>71503183
p.s.
>kids all over the world
should have chosen better their birth circumstances right?
>>71500893
they feel worse for you with no price controls whatsoever on medical services and supplies in the USA
>>71503271
enjoy paying for all the abbos who get hit by cars while sleeping in the middle of the road
>>71503326
unironically, yes
>>71497980
Population of Australia: 23.13 million
Population of USA: 318.9 million
I wonder which one is easier to take care of?
>>71498310
>implying anyone from Alabama would ever say anything like that.
Confirmed kike carpetbagger
Roemer's Law: With an insured population, a hospital bed built is a hospital bed filled. Once something is an entitlement program that people get for """free""", they'll use as much of it as they possibly can, regardless of how much they really need.
And lets face it, there's a large population of people that it isn't worth the money to take care of.
>>71503382
They shouldn't because I'm not retarded enough to take a job without Health insurance.
>>71501232
You have to pay for it illiterate fuck.
Stop using the word "free" and we'll stop with the supposed meme.
>>71503383
>surviving getting run over by a 60 ton truck going 110 kph
wew
>>71501232
>You're acting as if people who call it "free healthcare" don't understand that these services have to be paid for by taxes,
In other words, NOT FUCKING FREE. Fucking idiot.
>Brisbane
>>71501232
Yeah because all those medical professionals and just do it because they love working with sick people 7 days a week. Totally not being paid or anything.
>>71503778
90% of their body is made of petrol, they can take a lot of damage
>>71497980
We are leading the rest of the world. Straight into their graves.
>>71498386
>those immigrants just happened to be white men
>>71498386
It's like they fail to see the irony of their arguments.
>>71498386
>immigrant = non-white people
>>71497980
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""free""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>71497980
Hospitals in America are actually hospitals, as opposed to Australian "healthcare" where they rub some indigenous herbs on your wounds then call in the abo witch doctor to feed you roo semen from his nipples or whatever fucking tribal rituals they have down there.
>>71504771
Roo semen
well done m8
>>71499342
I'm pretty sure we spend the 2% that is required of Nato members (not that we are in Nato)
>>71497980
>Basic right
>Right
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>71504771
I'd suppose all Australian posters here sniff gasoline and jump naked through bonfires.
>>71503606
>I don't understand how words work
Do you freak out at the supermarket when they offer "free samples" too? Do you give this same lecture when the guy at the pizza place says the soda is free? They aren't "free" after all, someone paid for them. Fucking moron. Stop pretending you don't understand what free means in this context.
>>71503889
See above you worthless cunt.
>>71503943
Did you even read my post?
How about it's none of Australia's fucking business if America wants social healyhcare or not?
>>71505870
Don't even bother explaining to them. I'd like to believe they're just bored retards shitposting, in reality Poe's Law is in full effect.
>>71498294
tell me again, jermaine, how 123$ = free?
>>71502915
yah bro shit grows on trees ITS ALLLLL FREEEEEEE!!!!!
>>71507180
you're the smarmy faggots talking up all the FREE GIBS. sheeeeeeeit nigger like we don't see through your bullshit. stay mad.
A nigger and a jew walk into a mosque and then an irish man comes up to them and he says
>>71502077
In the US, commies aren't considered Red. They're pink, like a virgin pussy
>>71497980
>Boomer logic
>>71497980
>free
>right
>>71497980
>free
>>71504771
Rare to see such good banta from a fellow yank
The real problem with the American health care system is doctors charging hyperjew prices for every little service to the extent that a single night in the hospital can fucking bankrupt a person.
>>71497980
Alright you stupid cunt.
You're 'strayan so I won't bother to down you any further for stupidity or ignorance. They go with the nationality.
But FFS. FREE? Do you believe that? Are you a sub-retard?
>>71504771
>then call in the abo witch doctor to feed you roo semen from his nipples or whatever fucking tribal rituals they have down there.
It's semen from a gang raped girl who's had her vagina ripped apart by an emu(?) feather thank you very much.
>>71508397
Obviously she pays taxes and knows where the money comes from, dumbass. Quit playing retard
>>71508282
from a country that is both the strongest and master of actual anal licking no less
>>71508472
No she doesn't, and no she doesn't.
I'm not playing retard, just watching you be a retard.
(Pro-tip, I have paid aussie taxes and likely helped support this stupid cunt.)
>>71497980
Works when your population is less than 30 million and its homogeneous on top of it.
>>71508649
You are a confirmed retard.
>>71508745
>Works when your population is less than 30 million and its homogeneous on top of it.
We have 10 times their population but 14 times their GDP.
>Australia
>homogeneous
Did you get up today and consciously decide to say stupid shit?
How about just call it Affordable Healthcare? No more pointless semantic argument.
America is too busy being a world leader in incarceration
>>71509024
You have a homogeneous super-majority made up of the descendants of illiterate convicts, and a minority composed of Indians, Chinks, and the occasionally Aussie wierdo/misfit who likes to do productive work supporting them.
So fuck right off, strayacunt.
>>71501232
don't try to reason with them, dude. These are the retards of /pol/. We distract them with their own simplified arguments
>>71509024
>white 92%
>>71509204
That'd probably be a lie too. If you took the money you'd put into taxes for healthcare and put it into insurance you'd save money. But of course, they wouldn't put it into insurance would they, they'd spend it on something stupid then complain about it when they get sick.
>>71509335
How is cultural homogeneity a prerequisite for publicly funded healthcare?
They are not related at all.
>>71501988
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_post-war_economic_miracle
They'll be fine.
also,
>not knowing how a business cycle works
>>71509481
Same way it's a requirement for any generous welfare state - everyone has to trust everyone else not to abuse it, and be fine with their taxes going to the people it helps.
>>71509391
> If you took the money you'd put into taxes for healthcare and put it into insurance you'd save money.
No you wouldn't. We have a perfect example of why you wouldn't save money: America. Which spends more money on health per capita than any other nation on earth. Hell it spends more than twice as much as the second most (Switzerland)
And all that money is spent on health insurance.
>>71504904
NATO reqs 3 senpai
>Before Obamacare
>Never have insurance, always just paid out of pocket for doctors visits and medicines.
>Call up local doc, whoever I think would be good since I never kept a regular doctor, schedule appointment, get in to see them the next day or later in the week.
>At 27, decide it might be best to get insurance, finally get some.
>Suddenly Obamacare
>Insurance drops me because my insurance doesn't meet the new laws (why don't you have female only exams as a man?)
>In February
>Get really sick.
>Call doctor's office to schedule appointment.
>We can get you in... End of March.
>Laugh and hang up.
>Call other places, some results. Huge as fuck waiting times.
T-Thanks for the free healthcare, guys. I'm finally getting in to a doctor next week.
>>71509570
If you weren't racist, you'd trust minorities too.
Just then a black person sat behind me. Somehow I forgot to run away,
>>71497980
Man, Occupy Dems is really, really childish.
>>71509602
America is forced to pay into taxed "free" healthcare as well, getting insurance for decent healthcare (which might I mention they have the best in the world of) means you're paying twice.
>>71502860
2 Thessalonians 3:10
>>71497980
>basic right
If it involves another human it's not a right but a service.
>>71509734
>best healthcare in the world
>sub 80 life expectancy
>stagnant average height
>higher infant mortality than OECD average
Anyway if you don't want to pay twice for healthcare, don't get insurance.
>>71497980
>basic right
not an argument desu
>>71509481
They are related in every way...Welfare program can only work where all the people buy into it.
So when you have a single ethnicity, its much easier to get everyone on board to work.
Now you have America, a crazy diverse place where the majority is being over run by a collective minority. We can't even be on board with fucking language...
>>71497980
Chile posting an austrailian shitpost. btw, when did austrailia become autonomous?
>>71502895
Yeah because there's no fucking competition thanks to The State commie cucks
No competition means no innovation
The USPS would be as same as it was 40 years ago if they didn't have to compete with UPS and Fedex
If these people weren't completely mental deficient we might have been able to explain just because you dont pay for something doesn't mean its free.
>severely fucked-up spine during growth
>get operated in a top-notch public hospital
>metal bar installed by a renowned surgeon
>total cost probably around five figures
>have to pay nothing
sure feels good to not live in a barbaric country
>>71509655
>hard pain in my upper pelvic area
>doesn't go away after a few days
>call up a doctor
>1 week wait
>still a little pain but nowhere near as bad as it was
>arrive, told to schedule an xray and an ultrasound
>have to wait 2 weeks
>problem's pretty much over
>still go and do the xray/ultrasound
>get my balls and kidneys ultrasounded
>another week wait to go back to the doctor
>couldn't find anything wrong with me because so much time passed
>>71497980
Ancient shitposting
>>71501232
>You're acting as if people who call it "free healthcare" don't understand that these services have to be paid for by taxes, which is totally false.
They do though.
Whenever there is an argument about this, the person advocating "free healthcare" will say that the rich will pay for it, not them, so again to them it's free.
Half true.
Australia is an island. It is a lot harder for illegal immigrants to impact their population/economy. Mass influx of immigrants (legal and illegal) doesn't mix well with welfare/government Health care. Places with successful social healthcare don't face illegal immigration issues like we do.
>>71501232
>You're acting as if people who call it "free healthcare" don't understand that these services have to be paid for by taxes
They don't.
>>71509327
well how you would like us to deal with the violent niggers that plague us?
There are so many niggers here we had to privatize our jails. and somehow you think that's a bad thing? are we just going to let these niggers roam free?
>>71509884
And then what's that gonna do for you? The health care paid for by taxes in the United States goes almost exclusively to people who are either retired, low-income, serving in the military, or serving time at a state, federal, or military penitentiary. Of course, there are exceptions to that, but those are the prime candidates. And they don't even collectively account for most of the population, so a majority of Americans are forced to pay for not only their own healthcare, but other peoples' health care as well.
The problem here is that the US government spends a very large amount of money on state health care programs, despite the fact that the health care system is mostly privately owned. I know this has to do with he procedure and equipment costs being higher in the US, along with corporate profiteering.
The people are already paying a large sum of their income (via taxation) to fund state health care. If the government lowers their spending on that, people will have more money to afford health insurance.
But then the question is, who will pay for the people who rely on medicare and medicaid?
>>71510610
Yeah that's the real tragedy here.
You may think I'm joking but if you do you're a FUCKING IDIOT.
These people have been raised by the state and fed lies from birth. Quit calling them dindus and get serious about saving the HUMAN race or just fuck off and OD, you giant twots.
>>71511830
>Quit calling them dindus and get serious about saving the HUMAN race or just fuck off
you can only help people that want to change.
>>71511912
So you believe the human race is beyond all chance of redemption.
Call me a damn optimist, I do not.
>>71512022
Some of it can be saved, some of it can't. The trick is to avoid wasting any resources on the latter.
>>71512110
The trick is actually to inspire a desire for betterment among any who lack it.
>>71512171
You'll run into the same problem. Some people can be so inspired, some people can't and will just waste your time and money.
>>71498448
Haha thats bullshit m8. The longest Ive ever waited was a month for knee surgery. Oz has great health service
>>71497980
Here's the objective reality from someone who lives in a country with a single-payer healthcare system with universal coverage.
It's perfect if you broke your leg, and everything will be covered.
Get cancer? You'll have to wait in line for a long time, or hope that you get transported payed by government dime to Austin,Texas where the real top oncologists in the world work, else you're dead.
>>71498440
Yes. Got stabbed by one of the free junkies the government provides.
The cost of Medicare is increasing 10x faster than the population is is treating. It is not viable and it is not free.
>>71512384
I know people waiting over a year for knee surgery. Your parents had private insurance.
>>71497980
Free healthcare is a basic right?
You know there is no such thing as free anon?
Doctors dont work for free, MRI machines arent given away free, Air Ambulances arent operated for free.
In the UK our true marginal rate of tax at the high end is close to 70%. 7 tenths of everything you earn is confiscated by the government in order to give you "free" healthcare.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/tax/11544301/The-chart-that-shows-there-are-12-rates-of-income-tax.html
"free" healthcare? no thanks.
I like general health care. But I can see how Americans have problems with it.
Because to finance such a system, you need to introduce two un-american paradigms.
1) limit the preposterous amounts doctors and hospitals charge to a sensible sum and
2) everybody has to pay into the system. Even when they're not sick at the moment.
>>71505870
>Do you freak out at the supermarket when they offer "free samples" too?
there is no initiation of force when giving out free samples, regardless of if somebody "paid" for it or not. the company is chosing to give out free samples for free, to me, the customer, for free.
>Do you give this same lecture when the guy at the pizza place says the soda is free?
no imitation of force
it's not free, you can only drink it if you purchased something at the restaurant
>>71513535
>>Do you give this same lecture when the guy at the pizza place says the soda is free?
>no imitation of force
>it's not free, you can only drink it if you purchased something at the restaurant
This is violence againt the language. When I have the energy, I will challenge it, the same way I will challenge any completely transparent bullshit.
Sadly there have been times I was just so tired I didnt say anything.
>>71503233
public education is shit and a failure
it is not a human right you stupid fuck, it's just something we put up with because it's been institutionalized for ever
>>71513661
>This is violence againt the language. When I have the energy, I will challenge it, the same way I will challenge any completely transparent bullshit.
what the fuck are you talking about pussy
if you just replied to me to say "i don't have the energy to reply to you" you can just fuck up cunt
>>71497980
How can it be free when the medical staff are getting paid, the drug companies are getting paid, etc. ?
Only in the liberal shitbrain does 'free' equal 'because I don't pay for it.'
>>71513535
>no imitation of force
Big words for basically being a limpdick.
Wait a minute. Americans, your healthcare isn't paid for with taxes, your prison system isn't paid for with taxes, your police, your water and electricity are increasingly privatized... and yet you pay taxes through your fucking nose.
Where exactly are your taxes going? Coke parties for politicians? Bail-outs? Unnecessarily large military that spends most of the time chilling at their bases and writing comics how much being a Marine sucks?
Welp.
> mfw my aunt died of cancer waiting 2 years to be treated on public healthcare.
> mfw my dad was in surgery literally 3 days after finding out he had cancer on private insurance
Now, while i doubt the majority of Americans are all on good, solid private, or that the American system isn't MASSIVELY more expensive than our private insurance, our public healthcare for anything other than bulk billed GP visits is garbage.
>>71513814
I said I don't always have the energy to tell stupid cunts to fuck off.
Tonight I still do. So fuck off.
>>71513920
>Big words for basically being a limpdick.
>not wanting to hurt people is being a limpdick
fuck off nazi
>>71497980
Why do people think ""FREE"" health care is the best health care?
Like, they force this thing that it is the ultimate solution, nothing is better.
>>71514023
>I said I don't always have the energy to tell stupid cunts to fuck off.
then why are you wasting time replying to me if you don't have or energy to reply to supposed stupid cunts like me?
or have i misunderstood your angst
>>71513960
>your healthcare isn't paid for with taxes
Yeah it is. A metric fuckton of it is, actually. Medicare costs almost as much as the defense budget. It's public healthcare for 65-and-overs. No politician dares touch that, because those fuckers vote reliably. And a third of that defense budget is healthcare and pensions for veterans. It's over a trillion dollars a year on healthcare, all told.
>>71514137
I don't always have energy != I don't have energy tonight.
>>71514211
just tell me why the fuck you're replying to me
do you agree
do you disagree
what can i do to make it clearer for you if it's the latter
>>71514110
Well, it beats as system where the only hospital in town charges you $450,000 per week and you are stuck with the bill if you get hit by a car and the driver makes off.
It also beats a system where a grave disease is a death penalty when you're poor.
I lived in the UK for many years. Free heath care, bullshit. I paid £2k a year for BUPA private insurance. Fuck the NHS, do you want to sit around for 6 hours for a simple appointment or months for an operation? It's only good for emergency care, just like you'd get in any country. But if you need REAL heath care, you go private, or suffer.
>>71497980
Yeah and now it's overburdening our youth and imploding our system
We pay like $800 a year each in medicare levies
>>71497980
Being healthy isn't a right, it's a personal choice. Next question.
>>71514339
>We pay like $800 a year each in medicare levies
That's a surprisingly small amount.
Here it's a little under 300 Euros per month.
>>71497980
>I just don't get why that would be controversial or why Americans hae been denied this basic right
Healthcare isn't a right reeeeeeeeeee
You don't have rights to services provided by other people reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>71514839
you're saying that sarcastically but it's true
In Canada people pay for private Healthcare because the "free" state Healthcare sucks. So if free health care is so awesome why would people voluntarily pay extra for private?
Aussie public hospitals are complete shit. You head to emergency with a broken arm, wait for 5 hours in the shitty waiting area with gronks and scumbags then get treated by and Indian doctor who does a shit job.
You always get what you pay for.
>>71501232
>You're acting as if people who call it "free healthcare" don't understand that these services have to be paid for by taxes, which is totally false.
By that logic, Americans get free healthcare if they pay for comprehensive health insurance, or have savings for medical bills. The only difference between insurance funded healthcare and taxpayer funded healthcare is that one is optional and the other is enforced with guns and prison time and allows people who've never met you to have a say in what you do with your body.
>>71497980
>I just don't get why Americans have been denied this basic right
She makes it sound like the American government has this big 'free' healthcare service set up and nobody is using it and the Doctors are just doing crosswords all day because the government is stopping citizens from getting into the hospital
>"H-hey government your hospital looks empty, can I go in and g-get some treatment?"
>"NO"
>"y-you're denying me the basic right of having something other people worked for that isn't freely availab-"
>"NOOOOO."
>>71498622
>The rise of this blusterous man bewilders the educated
How is it that "The educated" are so slow in matters that make sense to majority of the population?
>>71501873
No, I'm aware that I may one day face a terrible and deadly illness, perhaps even one that I can't afford to treat.
I'm just not selfish enough to force other people keep to me alive.
I have a question for the Americans here since I'm ignorant of their health-care system.
If the infant child of a very poor family is diagnosed with for example childhood leukemia, will they be denied treatment when the parents clearly can't afford insurance and the child is left to die a painful death?
Or is there some sort of system in place for minors?
>>71498294
A fucking year!? yeah, no thanks...I had four knee surgeries(hypermobility is a bitch) with recovery for each knee being my only wait time. Insurance from my job paid for everything. The process went like this :
Made doctors appointment and saw her that day since I called early.
Got a second opinion later that day.
Saw the surgeon the next day and he sent me to pre-op after looking at the x-rays.
Had surgery the next day.
Australian healthcare is pretty lousy.
t. Person who lived in Perth and has dual citizenship.
>>71502477
He is right, USA hospitals charge way too much for EVERYTHING, they also run tests that are not needed so they can inflate the bill at the end.
On top of that they fucking ABUSE the prices, i've seen bills where they charge 500 bucks for an IV bag that is no more than water with salt or sugar.
>>71517515
Not American but as far as I know no-one is refused healthcare; if they can't afford it, they'd just be stuck with the debt.
Those ridiculous American hospital bills you sometimes see (e.g. 2k for an overnight stay) are because of subsidising other people.
Having worked in a public hospital I can tell you right now the only reason we're not up in our ears in shit is because we have a (sorta subsidized) private medical system that actually does most of the heavy lifting.
God forbid we get rid of that, then our already lackluster quality of public healthcare would go down the drain real quick.
>>71517792
Better than Mexico where you go to hospital for a blood test and end up with one less kidney.
Explain why this is acceptable burgers.
I'd rather die than put my family into this debt.
>>71517515
St Jude's hospital and others like it
>>71517995
Cool memes dicklet.
>>71498386
Are colonists immigrants?
>>71518007
fug wrong image
>>71518041
Any source for your map of cocks, Pedro?
You need to back up that kind of important information with an official citation
Serbia unrelated
>>71518574
>official citation
>t. millions of overcompensating shitposting aussies
>>71497980
Australia also took away your guns, instituted hate speech (meaning no freedom of speech ) laws and is currently attempting to shut down your ability to protest.
Also , calling your health care system "free" demonstrates that you have no concept of how it works.
>>71518530
non-profit hospitals have to have a certain number of charity patients if they want to keep their non-profit status. the cost of treating them gets dumped on anyone who can pay, which is typically the middle-class uninsured.
Obamacare was supposed to fix this by getting everyone covered. Didn't work too well, because the uninsured were that way because by and large its not profitable to insure them. Insurance companies raised rates to cover the losses, and people go back to being uninsured.
>>71518007
Funny enough, even if you died that burden would still fall upon your senpai, senpai. :)
>>71518041
>posts an image
>no sources
>easily editable colours
>stock image.jpg
>from Mexico
>>71518041
I'm doing fine in that department, maybe you aren't if you're trying to insult people based on their dick size.
I suspect your dick doesn't exist because the zeta cut it off.
>>71518877
To illustrate the absurdity of these prices, a reasonable price for an EKG is about 50 bucks, 100 at the very most. They are charging 800!
CT scan 14,000 bucks! what the fuck is up with this? it costs 300 to 500 dollars, at what point do they decide to multiply the costs this much?
MAGNETIC RESONANCE TECHNOLOGY! Wow they make it sound like an MRI is some kind of fucking god science gift so they can overcharge that much for something that costs 500 dollars to 700.
God damn that is an abuse.
>>71518659
>mad 3rd worlder
>>71518838
>OP is clearly a fucking moron. Don't feed him.
>>71498414
Privatized healthcare is great until you die because the hospital doesn't treat you because you lack the dosh when emergency happens
Yes, because waiting an hour in a doctor's waiting room surrounded by coughing gooks before being seen by Mohammad from Bangladesh who can barely speak English and prescribes antibiotics for everything is a great thing.
>>71518993
>>71519073
>>71519023
Dicklets detected!
When are you fuckers gonna off yourselves.
>>71519070
Because we don't just pay doctors, we pay researchers, scientist fucking everything from the top down. Mexicans don't do fuck all, get their degrees from a taco stall, and begin injecting salsa into the veins. R+D nigga, whites pave the way so the rest of you shit skins can attempt to cross the border :)
