What is humanity's ultimate response to this?
Are we going to colonize planets? Do you think we need to be unified to do so? (It's not like we had to unify to explore the oceans or other parts of the Earth.)
we need brilliant minds and there don't seem to be any around
We are stuck on Earth and we are stuck in our Solar System.
Deal with it.
>>71468593
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence
need something smarter then us, but then again, can't control something smarter then us
even then, if we were able to create true hard AI then chances are it was already created and we're living in a simulated reality
NASA can barely send some robotic instruments to a planet only 50 million kilometers away
The nearest star is 35+ trillion kilometers away
absolutely no reason outside of leftist sci-fi fantasies to worry about that crap
>>71468593
We create ourselves using Biotech, put them on terraformed planet, and hope they end up better than we are
>>71469718
Computers thinking for us will solve a lot of issues. As for controlling it, well we did make it. If we give it arms, legs, and a portable power source and gave it human traits, and then left it in a spot where the nearest human was 1000 miles away, we could be concerned. Other than creating an Ultron or fears of the computer subvertly destroying us without us realizing it (somehow), we don't need to be that concerned about not being able to control it.
>true hard AI being possible
>means we live in a simulated reality
Why? It doesn't answer the question as to why a simulated reality would even be needed in the first place. Then again we could just be a calculation that's going on, and they're not directly observing us but waiting for the calculation to finish. After all, in many ways we are "in the middle" of something and just a part of something greater.
>>71469884
>absolutely no reason outside of leftist sci-fi fantasies to worry about that crap
A lack of interest is the reason for NASA not being better at sending a space probe to a planet 50 million kilometers away. While the universe makes all our scales look meaningless, they still carry meaning to us. The fact we can send a probe to the outer reaches of the solar system, one to Pluto, rovers on Mars, and people to the moon is a lot to speak of. In relative to an alien race, yeah it's just monkeys spitting out pieces of metal (sometimes with other monkeys inside of it) to the little balls floating around them.
Which perspective do you choose?
The idea that all humanity must be united somehow to explore space is absurd. In fact, the degradation by lowest common social denominator is sure to ruin any global space program.
NASA only gets funding for approved topics, and they have to beg for it at that. It's fucked up.
If i were PM right now, I'd leave the EU, bring back our industry, and to remove benefits to the people who just cba. That'd be like 100 billion free cash right there.
Then Id invest that money in space exploration, and help fund private companies within the UK
>>71468593
>think we need to be unified to do so?
It would certainly help. But if past history is any indicator, we'll take our conflicts and problems with us, wherever we go.
>>71472829
it will be able to create its own arms, legs and power source, it will be smarter then us, it could create a power supply from oxygen or something convenient, it will create its own bodies
we are currently making robots and by the time hard AI comes alive we will already be completely reliant on technology
OP that image is proven CGI. Space isn't even real. Seriously.
what if there was some alien kids game called grow your own civilization and the pictures like this we see are on a piece of cardboard on top of the shoebox we're in
right now hes shaking the box
>>71474881
So you're imagining an Ultron like scenario. This AI/robot is going to have to be alone in a factory for a very long time, and is going to have to have all the information it needs to be able to get to a point where it's manufacturing itself. As for being able to make destructive robots that could destroy an army, it'd need a lot more. Think about how feasible it is to even reach a point where that scenario even occurs.
It doesn't need human-traits to be like that but that's just an example.
Making an AI that becomes the death of us isn't that easy. It's not as easy as forgetting a robot in a factory for a year. It's not as easy as turning it into a warrior and military leader. It takes a huge and systematic fuckup.
>>71474061
>if past history is any indicator
Past history isn't an indicator with how we're going to treat colonizing space, unless the conditions were the same. It's going to be pretty complex, especially since the first ones colonizing are going to be setting up labs.
Also I wish you guys would put more effort into this. "We'll bring our problems up there" is such a dismissive and overly-simple statement. What problems, and who's "we"? They'll be space agencies from different countries from what it looks like, so what problems are they going to bring?
Right away I know the problems can be societal, which also depends on the kind of people colonizing space to begin with. Scientists, intellectual folk? Probably won't bring their racism to the moon for a few hundred years.
>>71476513
they don't think hard AI will be a thing until 2045, all of our factories are becoming automated, driving is becoming automated, by 2045 it would be pretty easy for a artificial intelligence to take control of the technological system put into place, it will be able to read literally everything humanity has ever wrote
military is already trying to make autonomous robots
