British /pol/sters:
Obviously, as a member of the European Union, Britain has zero capacity to enforce upper-limits on intra-EU migration. Leaving the EU would enable us to say, "only x-many people are entering Britain this year".
However, this is only in theory. Realistically, UKIP are never going to get anywhere near the number of seats as Labour or Conservative. Labour certainly aren't going to impose strict limits on migration and I'm unsure whether even the Conservatives would; the likes of Cameron, Osbourne, May and Gove seem to perpetuate the same old, "immigration is good for Britain", bullshit.
So what I'm worried about is whether leaving the EU would simply mean we take in more immigrants for other parts of the world and our net migration figures don't change all that much. And if it comes to that, I'd much rather be importing Eastern Europeans (who, for the most part, are White social conservatives) than even more Muslims from the Middle-East and South Asia.
What do you think?
We're fucked either way. It doesn't matter.
Nonathis matters.
>>71435769
Either way the EU is dying, and while white Eastern Europeans are valuable many stay only temporarily. And let's not forget that the thousands of rapefugees in Europe may eventually get EU passports and get as much freedom of travel as any Slav. If we're out of the EU at least we'll have the ability to curb migration, we just need a government that'll actually do it.
>>71435769
If the public stupidly decides to remain being ruled by unelected pricks then the country deserves all the migrants it will get.
If we vote out, it will send a message and give the public that little boost to tell the government that we don't want any more Muslim filth.
>>71435769
No. Your elites love love their precious immigrant laborers. They only want to leave the EU because of muh trade agreements.
>>71436365
TTIP pls go
>>71435769
There would be pressure to reduce immigration post Brexit to 40-80k a year max.
>>71435769
Less from the white and slavic countries :^) Dunno about Pakistan etc.
>>71435769
Baltics (as white as you can get) are already returning to their homelands
The Poles are a little more stubborn but migrant numbers of poles are dropping
The UK is headed back to paki only immigration
They even fucked over aussies recently with stricter visas or reduced numbers of them allowed to migrate
>>71435769
If the UK leaves the rate of destruction will only be slowed slightly but if it stays in the rate of destruction will be accelerated rapidly once Germany's and Sweden's chickens come home to roost and Turkey joins the EU.
The problem is already inside the UK. How many brits are going to live in Luton, London, West Midlands and metro Manchester in 20-30 years?
>>71437290
This is something white nationalists need to accept.
The genetic battleground has been lost for decades.
Well since Cameron is a pro-mass immigration marxist, I expect you'll get way more non-white migration after leaving
>>71437441
>Cameron
By Cameron you mean "the entire political, financial and economic system," right?
A question for Brits: there are problems between Pakistani Muslims and hindus somewhere in the country?
>>71437574
Sure
they are all globalists & most of them are jews/jewophiles
Doesn't britain have a policy of deporting migrants who earn less than 35000£ and also aren't the birth rates for white british women rising as well?
>>71437441
Of course it's not going to stop. Just look at the vitriol and hysteria that comes out when someone like Farage legitimately pledges to lower immigration.
>>71435769
200,000 non eu-immigrants
170,000 eu immigrants
Why do we let them in?
>>71437876
>Why do we let them in?
For the Tories, it's a supply of cheap workers for their donors.
For Labour, it's an ideological slap in the face to the socially conservative and a good supply of voters.
>>71437785
The £35k was just introduced and recent stats show white birthdate has gone up slightly compare to the past 5 years, also the asean birth rate has dropped a bit in the same period of time.
>>71437876
>200,000 non eu-immigrants
Arent they mostly students?
>>71438120
Yes, like how many "refugees" are "children."
>>71437377
>>71435955
The birth rate of new immigrants tend to be about three times higher than the native population in Britain. However, if you give it 10-20 years, it usually drops down to match the pattern of their host country. This has happened with Indians and some Pakistanis who came across in droves in the 1960s and 1970s.
The problem is that Britain keeps importing *more* immigrants from these areas so, even although the former group has stop reproducing so quickly, the new group still *is*.
So if leaving the EU meant we reduced immigration drastically and there were no real demographics in Britain with significantly higher birth rates... the future might not be so bleak.
>>71435769
No, its one step in that direction. Nothing will change immediate post-brexit, but when a party gets voted in with an actual anti-immigration manifesto they will be in a position to actually act on it.
>>71438615
But that's not gonna happen, and the muzzies breed like rats because they (rightly) see the womb as a weapon of war, and all their children are paid for by the welfare state.
By the time the welfare state goes, they'll already be a large enough, and homogeneous enough, group that they'll easily be able to conquer the rest of the country, considering most whites live in scattered small settlements.
>>71435769
France has a batch ready for you if you decide to leave. Either way you're getting them.
Leaving hte EU however, only fucks up brits who want to leave UK to the EU (which is irrelevant because you still have commonwealth so you can just leave to anglo countries and EU will be shit like UK).
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/647094/Calais-EU-Brexit-border
>>71438908
And if we so much as shoot a gun or drop a bomb in a war half our population will start crying, get diagnosed with PTSD from the news reports and start helping the muslims.
>>71439077
The arrangement with France is in their own interest too. They don't want to be a staging ground for hundreds of thousands of illegals trying to get into the UK.
>>71439077
Yeah good luck them sending us illegal immigrants, that would be a crime. It's just empty words, like them pretending the borders would change overnight, that would literally be annexing our land.
>>71439190
Not even that. A single step taken by the British will have the world come in and save the invaders.
If the EU is the same, it will be them, but the US will come and kill thousands of native patriots and hand over the country to the invaders and feel great about themselves for doing it.
This isn't just the UK, if any EU country does this, this will happen.
If it's not the police stopping the patriots, it will be the national army, if not the national army then an international army.
>>71439370
I like the "we'll take back Gibraltar" threat. They can't do shit without triggering a world proxy war
>>71439464
Nobody's going to try and attack a nuclear armed country over internal issues with migrants. It would be a strongly-worded letter from the UN.
>>71439728
>Nobody's going to try and attack a nuclear armed country over internal issues with migrants.
A country having such in-fighting wouldn't have the facilities to worry about keeping a nuke at-the-button ready. And other countries would know this, and just threaten them with nukes as well. And since they're engaged in a patriotic war they'd fear their own destruction more than the other country would fear theirs.
And, who's saying that the patriots would be the ones with the nukes.
>>71439728
Well just you wait for UN Fire Team Hollywood as they send Jolie, Depp, Bono and all the rest of the respected UN staff to go in and upload uplifting viral snapchats of them gunning down anyone who ever signed "british-white" on a census or tesco clubcard form.
>>71435769
Is that a pepperoni pizza head scarf?
>>71439464
You really think that the national army will back invaders against their own people? Part of them will refuse to follow the orders that will come from above.
>>71436207
This, once the idiots in Europe let Turkey in and give all their 'refugee' pets passports things will be worse.
Leaving the EU may not immediately uncuck our country, but it's a step in the right direction.
>>71440113
I doubt all eu migration will stop when you brits leave the eu.
>>71440316
You really don't think the majority of the young in our country don't try their very hardest to identify themselves as far away from British as they can and would see the issue as an insurgency of angry old racists.
>>71440316
>You really think that the national army will back invaders against their own people?
Why wouldn't they? The entire point of the national army is to follow orders blindly.
>>71435769
from the thumbnail i though that she was wearing a pizza pattern Hijab
>>71440606
This. The whites will want to do the best to kill all those nasty racists ("Killing Nazis just like granddad!"), and the non-whites will be more than happy to remove more whites from the country.
>>71435769
All the immigrants won't disappear over night, but we finally get the right to decide how many of them go.
>>71435769
>Eastern Europeans (who, for the most part, are White social conservatives) than even more Muslims from the Middle-East and South Asia.
You shouldve thought about that when you went and colonized half the muslim world as part of the british empire.
They are the queen's men, subjected to her royal highness and parliment and therefore more related to you than some commie eastern european orthodox/catholic/atheist scum
You're never getting rid of them. You made your bed, lie in it.
Immigration will only go down if we use an auzzie points based system but that gets rid of low wage job lookers.
Another way is that would be workers need a job setup before they can move over here.
Combine both and you only get people willing to work over here who have a job setup.
Problem is we need to get our lot working to begin with and do jobs that we have done before the establishment made up the excuse that we need immigrants for x jobs
>>71437377
People don't want to mix mate, especially the elites. We've just been balkanised is all. Look at Brazil. 500 years of racemixing and it's still 50% white and ruled by a white elite. England is going nowhere.
>>71440316
The national army will be made up of Muhammads and Pajeets by then. They won't be killing their own, just the native British population.
≥>71440606 >>71440935
I'm sure that part of the native population while oppose the patriot side and will fight along the invaders.
>>71435769
>Can you impose limits on immigration in the EU?
No.
>Can you impose limits on immigration outside the EU?
Yes.
That should be all you need to know.
>>71441344
Muslims don't join the military at all
>>71441299
There was no mtv back then.
>>71441549
The government will enforce quotas, by offering more money or white girls to Muslims.
>>71441585
There was no nationalism back then.
>>71441660
There's none now, you fucking moron.
Wake up.
Most kids don't even know we had an empire, and those that do hate that we did.
>>71441549
>>71441650
This, they will offer incentives like flight training, IED creation, free curry and mandatory Mosques on every barrack. as well as the all you can rape white girl buffet.
>>71441549
Why do you guys have halal-menus in the military, then?
>>71441740
And I forgot to mention that a massive majority of our youth have no attachment to the history, culture or landscape of Britain. Our history is full of people who don't look like them, talk like them, act like them, or have the same religion as them. And asking them to care for an Empire they were subjects of is impossible.
Sage to avoid bumping.
>>71442272
Arm yourself. No other option.
>>71441740
Yes. Look around you. You're on a global top 250 website with 100 million unique hits a month. And it's openly national socialist. This is just the beginning my friend.
>>71435769
Not if anyparty othe rthn UKIP or Conservatives get it.
Britain would be able to set its own immigration policy, but if the gov in change is pro open doors, it could be just as bad, or even worse than it is now.
>>71435769
>will there *really* be less immigration
No, just the opposite in fact. Even Nigel has admitted that he would probably increase immigration from the "commonwealth", ie India and Middle East, to make up for the fall in numbers from the EU.
According to Wiki, the top five immigrant populations are India (729,000), then Poland (646,000), Pakistan (465,000), Ireland (403,000) and Germany (304,000). In other words, nearly half our top 5 immigrants came from outside the EU and just from 2 countries. Rest of the top 10 and top 20 is mostly non-EU as well. Also, we have separate free movement agreements with Ireland, so they will still come whether we are in the EU or not.
>>71435769
Depends on who we vote in, isn't that what democracy is? The choice? Within' the EU, we don't have such a choice.
>>71442272
Most white people weren't brought up in the ghetto by degenerates. Now fuck off with your concern trolling you fucking shill.
>>71443480
Vote for the nationalist party and see what happens.
Spoiler: nothing
We need a more flamboyant and aggressive nationalism.
>>71443610
No, they were brought up in a left-leaning empire-hating school system with the same alignment media in their off-time.
Do you think that the native youth are one command from the monarch away from taking back the country.
>>71443282
You don't need to cut off EU immigration if you really need it, which we don't. Leaving the EU doesn't require you to do anything. You can keep the status quo or dispense with it. The only difference is that it will be us deciding, not a satanic tyranny of globalist bureaucrats and lobbyists.
As much as I want us to leave it wont happen
>>71443167
conservatives in britain are 100% pro-immigration
And UKIP are likely a jew controlled shill party, so they are pro-immigrant too
>>71443896
Who gives a fuck what kids think. They grow up, experience reality and all turn into nazis.
>>71444005
Ukip's main flagship policy after leaving the EU is introducing a points system.
>>71444012
Except they've been told their whole life to disregard reality and see beauty in "multiculturalism."
So a kid today will see London without a single white face and smile and say how great it is.
It takes a life-time, but the modern world manages to destroy the natural in-group preference of humans.
>>71443929
>not a satanic tyranny of globalist bureaucrats and lobbyists.
They don't have those in London? IIRC, the going rate for access to the PM's ear was around £4,000, quite cheap IMO.
>>71441407
>Will you impose limits on immigration outside the EU?
Thats actually the question you need to ask yourself.
Tip: the answer is no
>>71444392
You can kick the ones out in London. And there is actually a lot of accountability in Westminster. There is none in Brussels. We don't even know who they are.
>>71435769
step 1: leave eu
step 2: execute all non whites
>>71436961
>as white as you can get
Who cares?
>>71435769
Center-right parties aren't interested in preserving ethnic/national identity. What matters to them is maintaining high rates of economic growth, which requires that the population grows in kind, necessitating immigration at a time when women have fewer children later in life.
Aren't migrants to the UK from the EU already a minority?
Yeah, I don't see how's going to help get less pakis.
>>71435769
There will be even more immigrants to make up the shortfall. Neoliberal policies in overdrive.
"Ambitious de-regulation" = tearing up workers rights + flooding the place with more cheap labour.
Oh and we're getting TTIP either way senpai
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11173369/This-trade-deal-with-America-would-have-Churchill-beaming.html
>There is absolutely nothing not to like about the TTIP. As Churchill might have said, it is altogether un-sordid. And yet virtually the only commentary we have been offered is absurdly hostile and misinformed. The debate is dominated by Left-wing misery-guts anti-globalisation campaigners.
>This is the person leading Brexit
>>71435769
yes its gonna slow down now
osbourne put into effect a law that says you MUST earn over 35k or be deported or not come in at all...they must pass a strict english exam also.
along with welfare reforms making it more tough to keep it will make them move along to sweden
if the commonwealth travel between CAN AUS NZ and the UK happens then we have a new human resource pool...not india and pakistan like blair tried to mass import from.
BREXIT is important to make these things work right.
>>71445398
Because it's the EU that promotes it. It has to die.
>Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi
>pioneer of European integration
>founding president of the Paneuropean Union for 49 years
>In his book Praktischer Idealismus (Practical Idealism), he wrote:
>The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals.
>Instead of destroying European Jewry, Europe, against its own will, refined and educated this people into a future leader-nation through this artificial selection process. No wonder that this people, that escaped Ghetto-Prison, developed into a spiritual nobility of Europe. Therefore a gracious Providence provided Europe with a new race of nobility by the Grace of Spirit. This happened at the moment when Europe's feudal aristocracy became dilapidated, and thanks to Jewish emancipation.
>>71445344
Plus having more working age people that jobs mean they can keep wages low.
We need a culturally nationalist party. An ethnic-nationalist party is dead on arrival. But if you keep it cultural any argument that can be made against you makes them look like a traitor and just more points in your favour.
>omg you racists nazis
>It's racist to believe in freedom under law and protection from arbitrary government, as outlined in Magna Carta? Do you hate these essential parts of our history and identity?
Playing the progressives at their game by framing the arena so any argument they make is really an argument in our favour.
>>71441407
I didnt ....but when i found out about the empire when i was younger i was sickened at how it fell
i want it back! i dream of the day the brits reclaim their throne from the yanks
Leaving the EU will not fix any of Britain's problems, it's just the first step to fixing those problems. Britain cannot fix itself so long as it is part of the EU.
>>71445492
Who cares. Outside the EU we can change all that. Inside we can't. Even if we can't outside, that's still not a reason to stay in the very institution that caused all this in the first place.
>>71446188
>Outside the EU we can change all that.
But we wont, not without a massive change in the mindset of those who make the decisions.
>>71446140
This. It'll be a step in the right direction by telling globalists to get fucked, maybe then something interesting will finally happen in politics and we might see some real change there, probably not though and I doubt our country will ever truly be fixed, but one can hope. :(
>>71435769
Leaving the EU means Westminister is soley accountable for immigration. If the public is unhappy with levels then the party in power has no excuse to hide behind.
They can either attempt to fix the figures, which will be exposed tout fucking sweet, or work to reduce immigration, or be replaced.
UK yes!
>>71446706
Firstly, that is speculation Mr Concern Troll (how much are you getting paid for this). There is massive and constantly growing anti-immigrant sentiment. REGARDLESS, that's a whole other debate. It doesn't fucking matter in the context of whether we should or should not leave the EU. The EU is a foreign entity ENFORCING unlimited immigration on us. Whether we decide to force it on ourselves post-Brexit is a debate for another day.
>>71448143
Have you seen the other posts I've made?
Also:
>concern troll
Stop speaking like a fucking leftist.
>>71446759
The top people that want us out are all Globalists m8
>>71447950
>India
I didn't know the side effects of the lack of loos to poo in were that bad.
>>71448563
They're research if shit is comestible.
>>71448396
But so do the people who want us to remain? We're fucked either way I know, I don't think much will change if we do leave but I hate the EU so fuck it.
>>71448313
Yes. For the last two and a half hours you have been posting demoralising and defeatist post after post since the literal first post. That is the definition of concern trolling. It promotes the idea that action is futile and induces apathy. You, sir, are a fucking shill.
leaving the eu is far from singleissue vote
but probably lol
>>71435769
Yes.
>>71435769
If Britain leaves the EU, there will be as much or as little immigration as our politicians, and voting public, wish there to be.
Because we will once again finally be in full control of our own borders.
That is the point of Brexit, to actually be able to decide our own future (for better or worse).
>>71447950
>India
I'm glad BJP are in charge hopefully they remove muzzie from the sub continent
>>71439464
We are done.
>>71451116
You are truely fucked m8. Nuclear suicide is your only option
