People talk about depression being a chemical imbalance, a lack of serotonin or whatever
Why don't they admit what it really is, which is a lack of testosterone?
If men aren't doing enough testosterone boosting activities (sports, fucking, fighting) then they become depressed - fact. Men are beasts just like any other animal in the world. Why can't people admit this?
>>71413156
I go to the gym 3 times a week, cycle 5 times a week and jerk off 5+ times a day, yet I'm still a depressed fuck.
>>71413220
I bet you your T levels are fucking low. If you're whipping yourself to do loads of exercise without any reward (such as respect from your peers, attention from a girl, things like that, things that make you feel like you have balls the size of oranges) then you are burning yourself out and your T levels will be very low.
Same with wanking. Wanking will make your T level low because there is no emotional reward for your efforts. If you were banging fit girls then you would feel like the biggest alpha on the planet. But you're not doing that.
>>71413156
That could be a piece of the puzzle.
There's definitely something fucked with the medical profession in my country. I've been to countless doctors, all of them were more than willing to prescribe me beta blockers, SSRIs, antibiotics, Cialis or Viagra, pain pills, etc, but if I asked for a testosterone prescription, they looked at me like I just asked for heroin or cocaine. It's really weird.
The reality is the test is extremely safe when given under the guidance of a physician and with all the estrogenic shit in our food, water, and plastics, most men would greatly benefit from a test prescription.
But we can't get it in America.
>>71413697
Well I'm not talking about artificial testosterone. I just mean men need to be active, do sports with their peers (football or whatever), fuck women in order to be healthy. Society used to realise this, hence "boys will be boys" - in those days, you were seen as a very odd man if you *didn't* go out drinking with the other men, being raucous and rowdy, trying it on with the ladies, being a man. Nowadays society doesn't want you to be like this. Fucking feminist cunts.
>>71413521
How scientific!
>>71413156
>depression
> lack of testosterone
Sounds like some interesting research.
Of course, you have copious sauce to serve that up in. Looking forward to reading it.
>>71413951
It's true, read a fucking book. Burning yourself out in the gym is a really fucking common phenomenon. Endurance athletes have low T levels because they are whipping themselves to keep exercising when they have no emotional payoff.
The body produces more testosterone when it gets that emotional payoff. Like in football when you score a goal. Like in boxing when you floor your opponent. Like in rugby when you take someone to ground, or when you score a try.
>>71413839
But artificial testosterone is needed in this modern world of GMO in the food supply, hormones and antibiotics in the food supply, artificial estrogen in the water supply, xenoesteogens in plastics and cosmetics.
Men are literally being feminized. It's not their fault. This is why homosexuality, transgendism is on the rise. Male hormones are being completely fucked with.
All of those are just bandages to the fact that the roles of men and women have changed. With our disminished role in society, and women's increased control, both sexes have entered a state of anomie.
Take loads of steroids and get massive
I have such high test people often remark on my unique odor and say they can always smell when I enter a room. pic related is the type of women that are naturally attracted to me.They want a strong man to protect them and they find that in me.
>>71414283
Lucky you eh.
The real cause of depression is not understood yet. There are many factors than can influence an individual's life in order for him or her to turn depressed. Chemical imbalance is one of those factors, testerone might be another but we simply don't know yet. -t. psych student
>>71414302
Get the fuck out kike
>>71413156
So I guess you're going to completely ignore other stuff? Such as social issues, such as men not having a respected role in western society anymore?
>>71414258
ly shrunken testes*
>>71413156
>People talk about depression being a chemical imbalance
No, doctors say that within 2 minutes of you talking to them to excuse giving you some shitty zombie pills.
>>71414142
>The body produces more testosterone when it gets that emotional payoff. Like in football when you score a goal.
I would argue that seeing results in the mirror after working out is a reward in that regard. Works for me.
>>71414325
w/e kid i'll go help at the local refugee shelter so i can validate myself as a good person :) XD
Enjoy premature balding and obesity, faggot.
>>71413156
idiot its all connected if you are depressed you have low t levels because of a lack of dopamine , serotonine.
>>71413156
It's not a lack of chemicals, but a lack of purpose and fulfilment
It's easier to cave in.
>>71413156
another piece of this puzzle is the transition from K to r selectedness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU
>>71413156
These 'manly activities' are just exercise, they make everyone feel happier because they help you release endorphins in your body which make you feel happier.
Sex doesn't help either, with or without someone else it can still leave you feeling empty.
If any of you are feeling down just try going for a run and getting your mind away from brooding and boredom, worked for me and many others.
>>71413156
Can't built testosterone without cholesterol. And if you read Taube's redpills on diet, there is no high quality evidence for the government recommendation on lowering dietary cholesterol. Very sad.
When I was low on test, overweight and ate like shit I once took a dose of zinc, which had a pretty big boost to testosterone for me. I could definitely feel the difference.
Since then I lost a lot of weight (went down to 9% bodyfat), and gained a lot of muscle (been working out non stop, 3 times a week for over a year now.
and now I can easily say that it did make a huge difference. I am even sprouting some chest hairs.
You dont need artificial testosterone, a good diet, good exersize and the results: a good body will still create it for you.
>>71414550
Talks like one that has never had it. Sex is so much more than what you visiually can see in pornos.
>>71414591
Imagine that, our government working directly against the well being of the public.
Unthinkable.
>>71414673
Rape doesn't count Ahmad.
>>71413156
>sports make you less depressed
Not if you have a functional brain
>>71413156
Your understanding of depression is beyond simplistic, gas yourself my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc#t=213
>>71413156
I think that's rather true, I smoke a lot of weed and have become depressed and bored by sex
But then again
Some grat apes are literally driven by testosterone and usually act like violent, sex obsessed gangbangers so having low testosterone level might be the way to avoid becoming a sub-human
Millinial Woes thinks depression is supposed to kill you. Its your subconcious telling you that you are dead weight to the tribe. Go poke a sabertooth tiger, no women wants you because your genes suck. Just die and stop bringing down the tribes vibe already.
>>71414893
Nah you're just a pussy m8.
Start taking zinc at night with Dhea. Start eating lots of red meat and start lifting heavy things, even if it's just your body.
Weed is cool tho I smoke errday.
>>71414463
Cave in to what? The dogshit in your picture?
>>71414746
Inferiority complex.
>>71415018
Yes, people eat until they're happy and forget about their actual problems in life. I think.
>>71414841
>sapolsky
>>71414673
>sex is da best man you gotta get d sex
spoken like a true 13 year old who has no idea how overrated it is.
>comparing actual sex to porn
Shit, you really couldn't make it more obvious huh?
>>71413220
Stoppe met rukken Jonge kheb het van 1 april geprobeerd gisteren gefaald. Het is net alsof je superkrachten krijgt, blijf weg van no fap forums enz doe het gewoon zelf even.
>>71413156
That would explain why so few black people are depressed, they're too busy acting like clueless apes and being retarded in general.
Ignorance is bliss.
>>71415169
>comparing actual sex to porn
I wanted you to have somthing you could relate to.
>overrated
>sexual intercourse doesn't elevate testosterone and dopamin levels
>>71414550
>>71415297
Dat heb ik geprobeerd, maar er is niks veranderd.
>>71413156
I don't think it's that simple.
However, I think you could cure most depressed people by dropping them in the middle of the Amazon rain forest with only a knife, a piece of rope and a pair of socks.
>>71415105
Pretty much this.
I'm sitting here with a bowl of sweet popcorn right now.
>>71415570
Hoelang voor iemand die 5 maal rukt per dag kan het zelf meerdere maanden duren voor dat je systeem herstelt is
>>71415819
Een anderhalve week.
>>71413156
Then baldness should negatively correlate with depression (given that you don't give a fuck about balding).
>>71414283
wut?
>>71413697
testosterone level is quantifiable in blood serum if you're legitimately hypergonadic then physician will prescribe, if not it's unnecessary and harmful to you
>>71413156
retard alert
>>71414142
>be happy
>t levels go up
Muslim education everyone.
>>71415598
No Nigel, that would be how you'd painfully execute depressed people.
>>71416402
Bullshit. How is having a 1800 test level bad? It's not bad at all and for men it's great.
>>71413156
ive done a shit ton of fighting,fucking, and sports and im still depressed
>>71417623
I also want the high test redpill
>>71413156
A portion of the "depressed" population does have a "chemical imbalance", not the majority as far as we can tell but conditions like hypothyroidism really fuck shit up desu senpai
>>71416402
Medfag here: the reference ranges cover everything from a bear mode black 18 year old to a 80 year old Asian man
>>71414283
>he believes the high test meme
You're just a chubby chaser with poor personal hygiene.
>>71413220
lol that's cuz you're doing cardio too much. Try doing some heavy weightlifting you lanklet
>>71417977
Its all over the place in terms of evidence. What I can say is that our endocrine systems are being hit by compounds that we never evolved to deal with
I am a very very emotional man. If I exercise regularly it gets even stronger when I have the feels.
I also head a brain injury about a year ago and my emotions are often uncontrollable and happening at the wrong times.
I have lost everything in my life because of this.
I am not insane but I find it difficult to spend time with people. I wish I knew a way out.
Gonna go lift now. btw say no to drugs.
>>71418435
>I also head a brain injury
yeah its showing you retarded fuck
>>71413156
because this is the cuck era
read/watch fightclub if you haven't done so already
>>71418488
Sorry. It does stuff like that. Thanks for pointing it out.
You know I used to think it was a lack of test but now I am just strong and depressed
ITT: /fit/ visits /pol/
you can only do 5 lifts for the rest of your life
>deadlifts
>bench
>standing barbell OHP
>pull-ups
>rows
>implying I won't miss squatting but can never quit on those delicious rows
>>71418703
You're okay. Girls love emotional guys, especially ones that lift. Marla Maples said Trump's vulnerability is what attracted her to him.
Ignore trolls.
>>71413220
Quit jerking off so much
>>71418703
>can't control emotions anymore
so how does it feel to be a woman now? but seriously, I knew someone who had this defect and he is literally a phlegmatic pothead now
True. I used to be depressed, then I started taking steroids.
I haven't felt better -- or have been more swole.
THANKS!
So when women are depressed it's because of lack of estrogen?
>>71419100
This is actually one of the big reasons that I won't touch drugs. Can't lose anymore control than I already have.
>>71418982
Women love it until I keep breaking up at them and forcing my feels on them. They actually get sick of that but at first it is always intense.
I would not recommend this to anyone. Keep your feelings hidden at all times.
depression comes from intelligence, someone like you wouldn't understand it.
this man, for example, killed himself
>>71413156
Don't downplay the role a lack of serotonin plays in depression. I'm not going to claim it's the only factor, but it definitely can contribute.