http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/sexuality/article/2016/04/19/many-us-monogamy-not-emotionally-healthy-pursuit
>Should we redefine fidelity to mean integrity, not sexual exclusivity?
>Given that so many of us struggle to be with one partner for so long, is monogamy an ideal we should still be striving for?
>By Olivia Goldhill
>""""GOLDHILL""""""
Please stop /pol/, I'm sick of being right :(
Oh, monogamy doesn't sound 'healthy?'
Tell that to this guy.
>>71393674
> Goldhill
Not even clicking that shit because, anymore, you don't have to. Too obvious.
But I shouldn't goysplain, right?
>>71393674
>its difficult to maintain a lasting relationship!
>so lets take the easy way out
Its emotionally unhealthy to not be a fuck up when it comes to a relationship?
>>71393674
m'lady, you would look nice in a striped pyjama :^)
Monogamy is seldom, if ever, found is nature. Women's nature is not at all monogamous
>>71393674
>>Given that so many of us struggle to be with one partner for so long, is monogamy an ideal we should still be striving for?
Fucking hell
SBS are funded by the government aren't they?
>>71393751
Actually makes me feel better. I know I would never be that pathetic.
>>71393674
Fuckin kikes
>>71393877
Yes, althuogh the article is originally from an American online paper. However SBS, using tax payer funds, would have purchased the article/right to publish from them.
>>71394062
Careful Hans, can't you get in trouble over there?
>>71393674
>sbs
hipsters, get out
>>71393836
Comparing how we 'should' live with what subhuman and other animal is degenerate. Only well structured and civil society adopt monogamy.
It takes self control and discipline to be civilised.
Tinder is typical degenerate anti civilised behaviour.
>>71393836
men are more polygamous than women
Geez cunts who could bother caring sick of all this outrage bullshit is this Facebook cunts?
>>71394561
Thats bullshit. Look at studies on levels of sexual attraction to a long term partner over a long period of time and the difference between a man and a woman.
Women are serial monogamists. They're repulsed by having sex with the same partner after a year to 5 years max. Women crave novelty. They're built to attach to a partner long enough to have a kid or two. Why do you think most marriages have little to no sex life?
>>71393674
top perusing m8
>>71396635
Women need to be controlled. It's in a guy's nature to fuck and breed multiple women. A man wouldn't want a fucking used up whore.
>>71396743
always m8
>>71396635
Women are monogamous men polygamous.
>>71396635
Men are the reason WOMEN ACT MONOGAMOUS in the first place, take a look at the west they are going full whore now that white men are being spineless cowards and not beating them when they slut around.
>>71393751
That bitch deserves to rot in hell.
>>71398248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-NXLOwUgRg
>>71393674
Typical Jewish "sexual repression" nonsense.
>>71393674
You know what else is not healthy?
Effort!!! Let's all just lay down and die.
>let the Muslims take over
>>71393674
>Should we redefine fidelity to mean integrity, not sexual exclusivity?
What the fuck are they even talking about? Already, as in right now, these folks have the ability and power to define the word however the hell they want. Essentially, they can live whatever lifestyle they want and will receive no other backlash than some disdain from dissenters.
There will be:
1. No charges.
2. No violence.
3. No real consequences of any type.
The fact is that these folks don't want to redefine anything, but rather they want to force everyone else to approve of their lifestyle. This is often evidenced by things like the "Get over it!" campaigns and such. Yet what they fail to acknowledge is that if you live in a country where the worst consequence you face for your lifestyle is a slight amount of disdain and moral condemnation from people you don't like and don't have to interact with or speak to, then you already live in a society that has gotten over you.
Start calling this shit for what it is. These assholes don't want to redefine anything. They want endless and constant support, encouragement, validation, and license for every life choice they make. It is textbook narcissism.
>APPROVE OF ME! VALIDATE ME! ENCOURAGE ME! SUPPORT ME! DO THIS RIGHT NOW! REDEFINE EVERYTHING SO THAT SELF-ESTEEM CULTURE CAN SUBVERT ANY NOTION OF MORAL CONVICTION!
Fuck that.
No one has any duty to approve of the actions or lifestyles of another. Fuck their hedonistic, narcissistic, self-indulgent nonsense.
I bet she's a really mediocre lay she just wants more men to pander to her because she just can't say "no."
>>71393836
Cars aren't found in nature
Neither are skyscrapers and chemotherapy
Hurt fucking durr nature = awesome
>>71400760
This is a good post
>>71393674
The welfare state needs to die. You can have 5 kids by five different men if you want, but i'm niot going to pay for it. I bet that if these spoiled bitches would not even have the police to enforce alimony they would immiediatly start calculating to find the most reliable possible husband. Oh, and no retirement money - your kids and family support you when you're too old to work. This would fix the divorce and childbirth race in an instant. When the state subidizes you no matter your life choices everythig falsl apart. The old family model was optimal for survival, if you're not struggling for survival it loses purpose. It would have been unthinkable for people of previous centuries, how can one build a family on such shallow and fragile thing as emotions.
>>71393674
Can't somebody give me a link to a study or a pic that shows the overrepresentation of jews in the media? There must be one, right?
>>71400760
Excellent post
>>71401249
>and no retirement money - your kids and family support you when you're too old to work
That sounds interesting but it ain't gonna happen unless West falls. Investment is what's gonna feed the old, not children.
>>71401249
The West is a victim of its own success.
The moment the standard of living goes up within a society, and remains at that level, that standard of living becomes the basic unit of measurement for what constitutes those things which are considered to be necessary and essensial. Eventually, this new unit of measurement finds its way into every sphere of a society, whether that be in academia, in the personal lives of citizens, within government, within legislation, within the corporate sphere, or anywhere else. Once it is that deeply ingrained as the "new" standard of what is "essential" takes root, it is seen as nothing less than criminal negligence to deny anyone their "essentials."
This is part of why the welfare state is now a permanent institution.
>>71400760
Jumping on the dick to say great post, well spoken Ameribro
>>71396635
Because it's easy to pull bullshit out of your ass.
>>71393674
Remeber goys cultural maxism isn't real
>>71402439
More like the moment there is a successful middle class, that clenches the Jewish/Globalist asshole, because nobody but them should be able to save money and leave some for their kids.
its funny watching feminist SJW whores try to legitimize being polyamorous sluts, since being monogamous and not riding the dick carousel is too boring and difficult for them
>>71401249
Yeah, but that economic model doesn't suit modern society. Modern society needs consumers, and that means everyone needs money they can use on products and services to keep the carousel turning. This is also the direction we're going more and more with automation. Fixing divorce and childbirth with your methods would mean a larger gulf between the haves (or just the have-a-litte-bits) and the have-nots. There's no going back.
>>71393674
>For many of us, monogamy is not an emotionally healthy pursuit
Yes, there is whole set of professions for this, main one called prostitution. Others are strippers(doing th extra for shekels), pornography, escorts.
All different levels of prostitutions, there go be a prostitute now jew slut... Don't think you will earn much on it, you don't got the looks tbqh.. almost look like a manlet
>>71393674
T. Beta males who are afraid of alphas monopolizing all the pussy and clinging to outdated models of relationships based on religion in the hopes of eventually locking down some fat used has been to pump a load into occaisionally.
>>71393674
Why can't they just admit to being a cockslut and be done with it?
I don't know about you guys but I think sluts are okay aslong as they don't claim to be not sluts
>>71393751
Is this fake or does it happen to real people, in real life?
I need to know how fucked up the west is
>>71406545
It's all too real my friend.
>Should we redefine fidelity to mean integrity, not sexual exclusivity?
No, we shouldn't start redefining words because you want take many cocks
>Given that so many of us struggle to be with one partner for so long, is monogamy an ideal we should still be striving for?
Absolutely. You don't have to participate. You can be as slutty as you want, but as a society we should have higher ideals to strive for than the ones you have.
Pic related is strictly monogamous. They're majestic animals. When you come home next your partner after taking facials from Jamal and his friends you're not majestic. You're a weak slut.
>>71393751
Goddamn, how can an executive be THAT stupid? Is it the mental conditioning? Is this man Swedish or does he just believe all the feminist bullshit?
I hope this dumbass kills himself though unfortunately he can't remove himself from the genepool.
>>71394405
Fuck off SBS news is the best
Their opinion pieces on the other hand are shit tier
why don't women believe in "true love"?
why do they always want to ride the cock carousel?
i sincerely, honest-to-god just want one partner.
it's a shame no women feel the same.
>>71399701
Exactly. Monogamy is a social construct. It was created because...men don't want to be cucked! For literally the entire existence of mankind up until around 1990, 100% positive paternity testing didn't exist. That's why monogamy and “slut shaming” exist. It was the only way to keep men from having to raise a child that isn't his before the era of the DNA test
>>71409832
They either believe in absolutelly unrealistic fantasy of true love that no man can meet or they just fuck around. Women cant comprehend anything abstract. That is why there are no women philosophers. There sure are women scientists but science is empirical with concrete and observable variables. Women are absolutelly incompetent with any kind of abstract thought that is beyond fantasy.
>>71393674
Ok I hear ya, but... at my local polyamory society meetups there's like two women per man. It's like a fucking dance class in there. Just sayin'.
This is a good thing. All this means is more of these women will be advertising themselves as "poly" on dating sites as their life style becomes accepted. Essentially outing the potential cheaters that cuckd will get with while the monogamous women will be more visible. Because why would you cheat when you can openly be poly and get with a cuck?
>>71409832
It's called an infidelity clause, my friend. Guaranteed Marriage-anti-cheat software that works everytime.
>>71393674
>>Should we redefine fidelity to mean integrity, not sexual exclusivity?
>>Given that so many of us struggle to be with one partner for so long, is monogamy an ideal we should still be striving for?
You can "redefine" it to mean whatever the fuck you want, it doesn't change anything.
I support these spineless cunts openly labeling themselves "poly" so people know to avoid them. Brand their foreheads with it ideally and we all know where we stand.
If some man wants to deal with that it's his loss.
>>71409587
>Goddamn, how can an executive be THAT stupid?
Because he's an executive, you'll be hard pressed to find one that's actually competent, and not just a lapdog for the higher ups.
>>71409978
>no women philosophers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspasia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Weil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wollstonecraft
Ayn Rand also counts
>>71406545
Of course it happened to him, he's on Reddit
>>71393674
>I am a stupid cunt who can't control herself for one moment and doesn't like the idea of being responsible for anything, such as being loyal to one person alone
I'd always argued that we need to start flaying degenerates, since they won't learn otherwise.
>>71411084
Aspasia was an art critic... just giving your feelings on art... great philosophy!
Simone_weil was a SJW, no intelligent bone to be found in her body!
And Mary Wollstonecraft was a fucking feminist you dipfuck.
How could you call these moist holes philosophers?
>>71393674
>Be a woman
>Born with gold between her legs
>Protected from circumcision (privileged right off the bat)
>Reach maturity, receive endless attention from Chads and thirsty betas alike (they each have their uses)
>Despite living a life of relative royalty, be oppressed enough to go to college on the taxpayer dime simply for having a vagina.
>Taxpayers fund her cock carousel ride all the way until she walks the stage to get her women's studies degree
>All she has to do to secure a husband is be fit, not be a bitch, and keep her legs closed for other men.
>In exchange, receive shelter, resources, children (that she knows belong to her)
>Can't even do that.
Women were never meant to vote.
>>71411450
Society has failed feminist shit test after shit test to the point that women don't even respect men enough to stay loyal to one at a time.
Women have de-evolved to their feral base selves where the only thing that matters is whatever makes them happiest at the present moment. It's like when Freud talked about Id, Ego, and SuperEgo, women never go beyond Id.
>>71412061
>>71413080
Jesus christ, cuck'd NEET exposed. So fucking bitter, butthurt, and triggered. Cry about feminists always trying to be victims but sound like such a little sore loser baby bitch victim.
>>71413211
>>71393674
Not being a slut is hard, so don't call me a slut :(.
>>71413211
U ALPHA BRAH???
>>71413211
He's still right.
>>71401097
Fuck YOU
>>71412061
Women don't vote, they make there husbands vote for them.
>>71393836
You can start by going "natural" and shit on the street Burgerstain.
Afterall, 99.99% of animals don't poo in loo
>>71393751
Lol at the dude chiding the woman for not being a good communicator. Reddit is full of some of the most pathetic, self deprecating kind of people.
I used to date a girl who was poly, but was monogamous while we were dating. I was banging her on the side before we were dating, and before that she cucked her last bf into a poly relationship after she cheated on him. He was an avid redditor as well...hahaha. Fuck, what happened to men.
>>71409759
This. I remember staying up late watching SBS to try and catch some nudity, saw some great films that way.
>>71413211
Shut up, femanon. 4chan has a 30 percent female userbase and I am so fucking tired of antisocial sluts coming in here and shitting up the board. Take your entitled princess complex and shove it up your smelly ass, don't you dare try to insult guys on here just because Chad won't date you.
>>71393674
>many of us are r-selected
Maybe they should be asking if anything they do is healthy.
>>71413211
Okay, sweetheart.
Your emotional tantrums are part of why Chad doesn't value you other than that moist spot between your legs.
>>71393674
>>Given that so many of us struggle to be with one partner for so long, is monogamy an ideal we should still be striving for?
The thing is hard and takes a lot of work. That thing must be bad or not worth doing.
I'm starting to get real tired of all these degenerates.
>>71415322
Modern women will never understand the concept of delayed gratification or compromise. Feminism has taught them that they deserve everything they want without paying for it because muh oppression.
>>71394561
Well, sort of. A common male fantasy is a harem. And in the past, 80% of women reproduced compared to 40% of men. However, when polygyny (multiple wives) is permitted by society, it falls apart. Simple mathematics means most men won't find a wife, so they resort to violence. You see it everywhere in countries that allow polygamy, such as in Africa and Asia.
>>71393836
Muh natural fallacy
>>71400760
I like this comment.
>>71412061
you do realize that ugly women are completely discarded though, right?
when you're a man and you're ugly you have many different things to fall back on. wealth, humor, confidence/charisma.
being born as a women is essentialy a genetic lottery if you're going to be hot or butt ugly. many attractive women take advatange of their looks.
anyways
back to >>>/r9k/ with you
>>71416297
So you're going to justify your bitterness against men by using the nature fallacy? That because we are stronger and smarter, that means it's OK to be hostile to us?
Back to >>>/trash/ with you, you piece of filthy trash.
Why not find a nice religious cutie who believes in concubines?
>Took her v-card
>She realizes it's in a man's genetics to sow her oats.
>She remains faithful and actively seeks to recruit concubines for me.
I guess I just hit the jackpot honestly <_<
>>71414106
Women vote with the strongest guy in their lives. Be it their father, husband, or boyfriend. All women need a strong man in their lives to protect them from themselves.
I can't count how many times I shut my g/f up by simply telling her she's wrong and standing up for myself and afterwards she's the one apologizing and saying how much she loves it when I put her in her place.
>>71416297
Ugly women are not discarded. The ugliest women has more privilege than even a normal-looking guy. She can affirmative action her way into college and the workforce. She can freely butt her ugly head into any male space and it's completely fine (but god forbid you encroach on anything women like to do in their safe spaces).
The ugliest woman is born with the comfort of her genitalia being protected from butchery, won't have to sign up for the draft to get the same perks men do and can absorb a lot of taxpayer money to fuel her "independence".
She can get a Chad drunk and knock herself up in the rapiest sense of the word without it being called rape. This secures her genetic future with good stock, while he rots in jail if he doesn't support HER choice.
Believe me, women have it made in the West. The Middle East is the place feminism is needed the most and feminists are EMBRACING their culture. It really goes to show how feminists really just hate and are jealous of white successful men.
>>71409832
Same man, I would legitimately be happy with one qt for the rest of my life. A partner, and a best friend.
>>71409832
One of the first red pills I swallowed was the fact that men are the true romantics.
Women have successfully projected all their piggish selfish behaviors onto men in the media to the point that the truth sounds ridiculous to most. The only reason monogamy lasted as long as it did was that women were just as liable to be punished as men.
If society is to survive, it will need to protect women from themselves once more.
Me me me me me.
When did society become so disgustingly self-centric? As though "because it feels good" has ever been a valid reason for anything.
>>71402439
>mfw welfare state is now a permanent institution
>>71409832
There are women who feel the same as you do, but they get picked up ASAP by guys. No girl who's sweet and caring and loving stays single for long, dude.
>>71416047
mark mark mark
shut up mark
>>71416415
How the fuck did you met a girl like that?
I want to know more, anon.
>>71393674
This is why you can't let degenerates dictate policy. The nuclear family is doomed and society with it. I'm moving to Asia.
>“One long term strategy is to settle down and have a long-term relationship with a guy who’s a reliable, stable provider, but then have an affair on the side with a guy who has phenotypic qualities and can provide that high-quality genetic investment,” Kruger says.
Cuck your husbands!
>>71393836
Yes, but unlike baser creatures we can overcome out instincts and think logically. We can see long term, societal benefits to resisting our biological urges in the short term. Feminists don't understand this because they don't have the capacity for logic and reasoning.
>>71418691
It's called going to church.
Just have to find a woman who believes that old school morals and values should still apply today.
>>71393674
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHA
Its awfully hard to be monogamous ehen you've been the village bicycle for 10+ years
>>71419334
When*
>>71418975
He said everything short of "cuckold" and "adultery." What a fucking jew.
>>71419169
I know one from church, but she's meh, and wants to be a nun.
78% chances she's a virgin.
Should I go for it, or should I pump and dump hotties?
I'm freshly divorced from a tumblrina btw.
>>71393674
That has to be a man
Too many manly features
>>71394561
men only care about sex, when it comes to cheating, to women, its not just about sex, its about being with a better men, in all aspects, when they cheat they don't want to go back and stay with the old partner, but when a man cheat he still wants to stay with his partner. this is why its worst when a woman cheats than when a man cheats. Men often cheat with women that are uglier than their wifes, and they often ask when cheated things like ''what she have that i dont have?'' when its all about sex and not about being a better woman
Degenerate
>>71419401
To be honest, freshly divorced likely blacklists you to a lot of actual wife material women unless it's due to the other woman's infidelity.
Divorce in most cases makes you the male version of a single mom with a mixed child.
Always find a girl who's got a degree in a noble field.
It shows she can stick through things with patience and commitment. It will also mean she finds a good career, and doesn't get a mid life crisis where she goes
>my life is boring, I need to spice things up and get a divorce
She will also earn money from a decent career, and building a family is a life-project, it will help you get a better house, better vacations, better life for your kids.
+ if she has those virtues your kids will be smarter and more committed by genetics and upbringing.
>>71420453
>tfw you know a qt who just finished a degree in taxation
>>71419990
It's due to her going for a threesome and lying to me about it for one and a half year.
As for me, I'm a degenerate piece of shit, but two days ago I shaved my beard to 9mm and got an haircut, today i went out in a full suit with my 3yo daughter and I passed by hot girls who gave me slutty looks on the streets, one gave me her number, and even some dude just passing by, not even stopping, the guy told me "You're classy, sir"
I know, even I don't know wtf
Fact is I'm not ripped but I have a hot face.
I'm less worried after what happened today.
>>71393836
in nature the males are allowed to kill to make up for it
>>71420597
>College-educated men and women are more likely to stay married than those without a four-year degree, according to a new report by the Pew Research Institute, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, D.C. Some 78% of women with a bachelor’s degree are likely to stay married for 20 years if it’s their first marriage, versus just 40% of women in a first marriage with a high school degree or less
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/want-to-stay-married-get-a-degree-2014-09-29
>>71420639
so fuck the brains out of the girl who gave you her number on the street, frog
>>71420784
Wah? Allowed by whom?
>>71393751
bump so people see this story. He just sounds like a dumb guy. That's the worst part. He's not bad, he's just a little retarded. Hope I'm never in that situation
>>71420947
Will do, thanks.
But what about the wannabe nun? She looks like a bookworm and seems pretty shy.
I masturbate sometimes thinking about what I would do to her, and betting on her virginity makes it even nastier, but on the other side I don't want her to start living for sex, money and male attention instead of living for God.
Is there a way to fuck a woman doggystyle while slapping her ass and fingering her asshole without ruining her?
>>71420639
If that's the case then I'd recommend church, become involved in your religious community as well.
Basically clean up your act. If you can play the your wife cheating card and wanting to raise your daughter in a proper religious household it should work splendidly for you.
Just don't fuck it up and you should be fine.
>>71393674
Holy fuck this puta is ugly as shit. WHo the fuck would lay with such an ugly whore, coño carajo pero que fea. she looks like a truck hit her, fuck i seen jews with hooked noses but this bitch seems like the offspring of shrek and the witch.
>>71421195
I've done it and my woman isn't ruined. Hell, actually went through a painal phase with mine.
Granted my woman actually gave me the brown cherry before the pink thinking God would still consider her a virgin lol
>>71393674
>sometimes it's hard, therefore we shouldn't do it
>Goldhill
I'm starting to think this isn't a coincidence
>>71393674
Guess what? It really it isn't. Me and my girl practice promiscuity, pegging, femdom and occasionally like to share the cock or bottom in gamgbangs together. Funny thing? We are redpilled as fuck and ready for Race War.
>>71421492
>protestants
>>71421195
take her out, see where it goes. She won't fuck on the first date if she's a virgin. Do you want to marry her? She might not fuck for a while man.
If you want to marry her, take her out. You probably should.
>>71393751
>if you talk think or act like your happiness is dependent on your wife
>that is bad for both of you
>emotional connections to your spouse are bad for you
Why even get married or have relationships?
>>71421811
Actually pentacostal church. So I got used to the speaking in tongues/holy ghost and all of that.
Kinda put me off from regular church tbqh.
>>71421827
Thank you, I will consider this more seriously.
>>71400760
Faith restored. Thank you based anon
>>71400760
Someone screen cap this. 100% right. I've seen it in my own neighborhood. The moment we stopped trying to live the upscale life style and tried something different we where ostracized. Just by not being like them, you invalidate them and people cant stand it.
>>71421881
>speaking in tongues
This I never understood. To me 'speaking in tongues' should be speaking another known language than your own without learning it. Not blabbering incomprehensible gibberish while simulating a demonic possession case.
>>71409587
He can. He'd just have to murder-suicide his children.
>>71421754
>redpilled degenerates
I guess it is different for different people. I personally have zero urge to bang a girl I am not in love with. I've had multiple gfs and when I engaged in a relationships I suddenly stop wanting to enter sexual intercourse with grilles other than "mine", as I see no reason to cheat with anyone when you have the one loving you.
>>71421754
sexual degeneracy has nothing to do with race war. Also you can still be redpilled and be addicted to things like sex and drugs.
You're still a degenerate and we'll use you as a necessary idiot during the race wars but on day of the rope you will die degenerate
>>71393674
>i have hot dudes hit on me all the time and it would be neat if i could have the stability of my partner while also satiating my impulses
>it doesn't really matter to me if he is getting a raw deal
>>71400760
Get that man a beer.
>>71422159
I agree with you.
as for girls, the following sentence sums it up:
"Is it really the best I can get?"
Just thinking about it makes me sick. And I'm not really moral overall.
>>71419169
>It's called going to mosque
FTFY
not even mormons believe in polygamy btw
>>71393674
These people want to see the destruction of the family unit.
>>71422030
Honestly, I've seen both in my church.
I've seen people speaking actual comprehensible messages in what sounds usually of a type of latin origin to african origin.
I've also seen the people doing the hand seizures, spouting gibberish, and just falling down to the point that you suspect they're having a seizure and aren't sure whether or not they need medical attention.
It's definitely an experience to say the least. It does make it easier to believe for me at least seeing that sort of stuff though than just sitting in a pew for 2-4 hours essentially doing a bible study.
>>71422562
But anon, theology is great!
>>71393674
Sure, let's just let women ride all the cock they want. Surely this will make them happy and not at all make them feel like used up whores once they reach 30 and can't have kids. I mean it's a known fact that women are sound decision makers and tend to think logically instead of emotionally and impulsively. Come on guys it's literally 2016.
>>71421445
Calmate compai, no vale la pena jaja
>>71406545
help us
>>71422336
Why not?
>>71422159
That's why I said that it's different for different people.
>>71422226
>but on the day of the dope you will die
How exactly would you know that we practice kinky shit?
>>71400760
I'm literally clapping. Outstanding post.
>>71412061
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